[ql-users] Lynx
Hi, Help if possible please. I am using lynx 2.8.2 on QPC2. Previously I had it set up to use QD to edit the html file within but now this facility has stopped. I have the editor defined in both the lynxrc and the lynx_cfg as : fork Win1/PRG/QD98/QD which the correct path. I think I must have altered something else that has stopped this working. What else in the configuration files needs to be set? Thanks Duncan Neithercut ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40/Q60 screen
Hi Dilwyn, Yes your programs produce a nice primary red green blue on a Q60, occuping only 1/4 of the 1024x512 screen as the full screen contains 524288 words, 131072 only gives 128 lines on the screen. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 11 June 2006 21:05 To: QL Users List Subject: [ql-users] Q40/Q60 screen I need help from a Q40 or Q60 user to test if my BMP screen conversion routine works for Q40/Q60. If a Qx0 owner could run the following little program for me in SBASIC with the machine in 1024x512 16 bit colour mode, the program *should* generate a green screen in theory. I've set up a little test rig on my QPC2 to try to test, but I think I've got green and blue the wrong way round but I don't know if it's the converting or the test rig at fault. (the % in line 120 indicates a binary number of course) 100 OPEN_NEW #3,ram1_test33_scr 110 FOR a = 0 to 131072 120 BPUT #3,%1000 130 BPUT #3,0 140 END FOR a 150 CLOSE #3 160 LBYTES ram1_test33_scr,SCR_BASE The above program should generate a green screen. Changing lines 120 and 130 like this should generate a blue screen: 120 BPUT #3,0 130 BPUT #3,%0010 And changing lines 120 and 130 like this should generate a red screen: 120 BPUT #3,%0111 130 BPUT #3,%1100 It's possible the above program might lock up your machine and will mess up your display (as it naughtily writes direct to the screen) if I've made any mistakes, so save anything important before testing! Assuming the above tests generate the colours I think they should, I can compare the output from my conversions to these results to try to prove if my machine code works or at least try to find out what I'm doing wrong if not. Many thanks to anyone who can help. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 09/06/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] screenshoots
Hi It takes between 1 minute 18 seconds and 1 minute 24 seconds to convert a 1025x512 mode 33 pic or scr to .bmp on my Q60 80Mhz with the SBASIC ex-ed as a multitasking SBASIC program, source on hard disk output to ram1_ Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 06 January 2006 18:48 To: QL Users List Subject: Re: [ql-users] screenshoots Thank you. Just out of interest, can you give me an idea how long it takes to convert a 1024x512 picture on Q40 or Q60 (whichever you use)? -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] screenshoots Hi Dilwyn Below is my adaption of the Qx0 part of your pic to bmp converter. It seems to work as I have used it on occasion its what I sent to Michael Grunditz. 1900 DEFine PROCedure Q40colours 1905 FOR X = 0 TO pw%-1 1910 blue = (PEEK(qlad+1)62) DIV 2 1920 red = (4*(PEEK(qlad)7))||((PEEK(qlad+1)192) DIV 64) 1930 green = ((PEEK(qlad)248) DIV 8) 1940 intensity = (PEEK(qlad+1)1) : REMark 0 or 1 1950 POKE pcad,(8*(blue))+intensity*7 1960 POKE pcad+1,(8*(green))+intensity*7 1970 POKE pcad+2,(8*(red))+intensity*7 1972 qlad = qlad + 2 1975 pcad = pcad +3 1978 END FOR X 1980 END DEFine Q40colours Duncan Neithercut -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 03/01/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] screenshoots
Hi Dilwyn Below is my adaption of the Qx0 part of your pic to bmp converter. It seems to work as I have used it on occasion its what I sent to Michael Grunditz. 1900 DEFine PROCedure Q40colours 1905 FOR X = 0 TO pw%-1 1910 blue = (PEEK(qlad+1)62) DIV 2 1920 red = (4*(PEEK(qlad)7))||((PEEK(qlad+1)192) DIV 64) 1930 green = ((PEEK(qlad)248) DIV 8) 1940 intensity = (PEEK(qlad+1)1) : REMark 0 or 1 1950 POKE pcad,(8*(blue))+intensity*7 1960 POKE pcad+1,(8*(green))+intensity*7 1970 POKE pcad+2,(8*(red))+intensity*7 1972 qlad = qlad + 2 1975 pcad = pcad +3 1978 END FOR X 1980 END DEFine Q40colours Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 04 January 2006 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] screenshoots Was written in good faith and since that was published about 2 years ago nobody told me it didn't work. I haven't got a Q60 to play with, if anyone can tell me the correction needed I'll update the program on my website and CDs. I presume you were using SMSQ/E, not QDOS Classic? I think the problem might be that there is a close bracket in the wrong place after the PEEK in line 480, which tries to make the program PEEK an illegal place ending up at address 0 to 7. I think it should read as follows to cure this problem but I can't test this as I don't have a Q60 (please let me know if this fixes the problem): 480 red = (4*(peek(qlad)7)) || ((PEEK(qlad+1)192) DIV 64) -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Michael Grunditz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] screenshoots - Original Message - Thanks. If you are a QL-Today reader, you will find some help on the Insider Disk that came with the last issue. Go to the folder gd2conv for a basic program to convert mode 32 screens to bmp. In the text are suggested, but untested, changes you can make to the program to convert mode 33 screens to bmp. Just a word of warning. There is an error in line 270. Amend this to: 270 GET #3, temp% : ql_bpl=temp% Best wishes, Geoff Ok so I tried the program with the changes for mode 33. However I get 480 arithmetic overflow. /Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 03/01/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SMSQE and the Qx0
Hi, I also find that it is easiest to load the latest version of smsqe to ram from a file. I think it is more useful to have an older version of smsqe in the rom - that is the version that came with it for the rare occassion when backwards compatibility is needed. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 31 October 2005 18:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] SMSQE and the Qx0 Hi all, This is more for the SMSQE.users amongst us, which use it on a Q40/60 . The current version of SMSQE for the Qx0 is about 250 KB long. It was suggested to me that the home thing should be incorporated into SMSQE, which will make SMSQE for the Qx0 about 254 KB long. We are now approaching very closely the 256 KB limit which the current ROMs for the Qx0 can handle. The other versions of SMSQE don't have that problem, since they are always loaded into RAM anyway. I'm told that it might be possible to use larger Eproms on the Qx0 for this, to give us 512 KB of ROM space, which should be enough for the foreseeable future. I have already tried to source these Eproms here in France, but have been unable to find any suitable Eproms (!). Of course we could probably take some languages out and make them into independent LRESPR files, thus making SMSQE smaller for the time being, but that is just a stopgap measure - soon we will face this limit again. I personally am not really bothered by this since I generally load SMSQE into RAM even on a Q60. So I would like the resellers, notably, but also the Qx0 users, to tell me whether there are really users out there that will ask for upgraded ROMs for their Qx0. If yes, how many? If it turns out that larger Eproms cannot be built into the Qx0, where do they suggest that we go from here? Would they be content with the upgrades to be put into RAM? Let me know what you want/wish. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Manual for Computer One Pascal
Hi, I have a manual but do not want to part with it. Would scanned images (bmp) of the manual starting with the chapter on QL functions be of use? Regards Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Engstler Karsten Sent: 10 October 2005 11:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Manual for Computer One Pascal Hello, im searching for an manual of Computer One Pascal. The development enviroment can be download, but It is nearly useless without an Manual with the list of the commands there added for the ql (like graphics, filesystem and so on) Regards karsetn Ferner Osten - neue Maerkte - vertraute Technik unter diesem Motto praesentiert sich sycor auf der FAKUMA Messe vom 18.-22. Oktober in Friedrichshafen sycor - IT-Kompetenz fuer die Kunststoffbranche! Besuchen Sie uns! Zwischen Halle A5 und A6 - Stand 6511 Weitere Infos unter www.sycor.de Diese E-Mail ist vertraulich und kann darueber hinaus persoenliche Informationen beinhalten. Wenn Sie nicht der bestimmungsgemaesse Empfaenger sind, loeschen Sie bitte die E-Mail und deren Anhaenge sofort und benachrichtigen Sie uns darueber. Die Firma sycor willigt in keine Vertraege oder vertragliche Verpflichtungen ein oder uebermittelt rechtsverbindliche Angebote, die in Form von E-Mail versandt werden, sofern dies nicht ausdruecklich in schriftlicher Form zwischen den Parteien vereinbart wurde. This e-mail is confidential and may contain personal and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this e-mail and all attachments immediately and inform us. The company sycor does not agree with contracts or contract obligations sent by e-mail, neither do we transmit legally binding offers by e-mail, unless this is not expressly agreed upon between the parties and documented in written form. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Which game would you like to be writen ?
Hi I know its a late reply :) I would like a combination of Lords of Midnight (Spectrum) Civilisation Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Engstler Karsten Sent: 07 August 2005 14:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Which game would you like to be writen ? Hello, i'm new to this group, i would like to here from you if anyone is interested on new Games and if which kind of game. I have some projects I my mind: 1. an round based Fantasy Strategy Game 2. an real time SF Strategy Game 3. an Roleplaying Game based on Ropert Aspirins Thiefs World 4. an Action Game (a conversion of my Game the Buddha of Kraktoa an Ti 99/4A Game ) 5. an Game for Kids Which of this Projects would you like to see going live for the QL ? An football manager Game will be finished shortly (also an conversion but this time on for Quick Basic), but there I would need a little help to translate it for the UK based Player (I need tips to the different clubs). Regards Karsten PS: Sorry for my bad English PSII: Are there any QL User in Germany left, of even an Club of QL Partys ? Diese E-Mail ist vertraulich und kann dar|ber hinaus persvnliche Informationen beinhalten. Wenn Sie nicht der bestimmungsgemd_e Empfdnger sind, lvschen Sie bitte die E-Mail und deren Anhdnge sofort und benachrichtigen Sie uns dar|ber. Die Firma sycor willigt in keine Vertrdge oder vertragliche Verpflichtungen ein oder |bermittelt rechtsverbindliche Angebote, die in Form von E-Mail versandt werden, sofern dies nicht ausdr|cklich in schriftlicher Form zwischen den Parteien vereinbart wurde. This e-mail is confidential and may contain personal and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this e-mail and all attachments immediately and inform us. The company sycor does not agree with contracts or contract obligations sent by e-mail, neither do we transmit legally binding offers by e-mail, unless this is not expressly agreed upon between the parties and documented in written form. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
It bugs me also. See rest of world : Computer Active computer magazine 12th to 25th May feature on how to find and play vintage PC games. They mention ww.abandonia.com a site for freeware, shareware and so called abandonware == programs no longer sold or supported by its developer. They note that abandonware is technically illegal but that the copyright holders are not harmed financially by this distribution of discontinued software. It happens in PC land where the market money amd lawyers are so much bigger and agressive. Why then are the theoretical rights of absentee copright holders in the QL world where the market is zip according to all our traders such a mega issue? No one can be harmed when sources/modifications are released where there is no market. How about this - even in a PC 100% of zero is always zero. When will the upgrade of Perfection be release in DWJ web site. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 17 May 2005 22:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software This is one of the many things that bugs the hell out of me. I wish there was a statute of limitations or similar on software, whereby after x years the stuff became free. I'm sure freddy would agree to releasing it as freeware, or certainly for a giveaway price. I mean, what real use is a piece of 10 year old QL Software other than retro/curiosity value? You're hardly gonna run the world with it... There is so much good usable software out there and nobody knows its user status - is it freeware, charityware, commercial, or what? And if we had some certainty on a lot of this, a lot of users may be attracted back or stay with the QL to use them, purely as tinkerers. I can pick up a copy of PC World, Computer Shopper, PC Pro or any other PC Magazine and find a pile of software (often once costing hundreds of pounds) stuck to the front cover for the 4.99 cover price, and much of this is less than 2-3 years of age. You usually find v.3 or whatever on the cover disc with an offer to get the new v.4 inside at a reduced cost - yet here we are debating the status of software that hasn't been sold at all, never mind updated, for over a decade. Why are people so reluctant to give this stuff away? There is no money in it anymore. Just ask any trader :-) END RANT/ Don't forget Freddy V. may have sold the software, but that does not mean he is the copyright holder. I have said this many times before on this list. There are doubts about the copyright position of several of the ancilliary programs that formed part of the total Perfection package. When I enquired many years ago, no one was sure of the exact copyright status of Spellchecker, for example. If my memory serves me correctly when Turbo became PD permission had to be sought not just from Freddy V., but also the various authors, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0
Hi,
Thanks again. I have again tried it with this on the gs command line :
which should be identical to what you suggested
gslp -pram1_test_bas ram1_test.ps
I get : error undefined in gslp
Is there something that needs to be set in the gslp file from the
defaults?
Duncan Neithercut
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John
Southern
Sent: 23 April 2005 00:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0
On Friday 22 April 2005 21:51, Duncan Neithercut wrote:
Thanks but thats the manual seems to say what I have been using
without success. do you need to specify an output device or font in
the
command line as well?
No to both questions. I have just run it here and as you can see below
it
generates a postscript file.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ ls
test.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ gslp -pfishstick.ps test.txt
Printing test.txt
Page height = 71.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ ls
fishstick.ps test.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ cat test.txt
test file
1
2
3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ cat fishstick.ps
%!
/B {save 3 1 roll translate /X 0 def} def
/BL {save 3 1 roll 90 rotate translate /X 0 def} def
/E {showpage restore} def
/V {neg X exch moveto} def
/M {/X 2 index def neg moveto} def
/S {currentfile =string readline pop show} def
/RE {findfont dup length dict begin {1 index /FID ne {def} {pop pop}
ifelse}
forall /Encoding ISOLatin1Encoding def currentdict end definefont} def
/BFont /Courier-ISOLatin1 /Courier RE 10 scalefont def
/HFont /Courier-Bold-ISOLatin1 /Courier-Bold RE 10 scalefont def
50.4 784.812866 B
HFont setfont
-13.04 V
S test.txt
170.4 -13.04 M
S Sat Apr 23 00:37:32 BST 2005
460.8 -13.04 M
S page 1
BFont setfont
0 18.5 M
S test file
29 V
S 1
39.5 V
S 2
50 V
S 3
E
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$
John S
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RE: [ql-users] Roy's section in QLToday
I suppose it works in QPC2 because that accesses the files using Windows. Thats it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy wood Sent: 22 April 2005 20:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Roy's section in QLToday In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Roy I always read your bit in QLToday first, its always about innovation. I saw two of your clients had a problem with QCDEZE and the QDT CDrom. You have found a new way of getting software support. You could have got help quicker if you had emailed me. Did you check which version(s) of QCDEZE was being used. I thought he had been in touch with you himself and I was just reporting it in case anyone else had a problem like it and could not solve it. I had always had a great appreciation of your work - no slur was intended. By the way I would be happy if you could write a bit about the use of QCDEZE for inclusion in the Start Here series in the next issue of QLT. SNIP As for the name shortening, sorry but you only have Bill Gates to blame for that one as you must have used a PC to burn the CD. The names on the ISO9660 part of the CD are short due to DOS short file name conventions, directories are not part of the file name in DOS. If you had burnt it on an Amiga there would be no problems with filename length. I only got my head around Windows LFNs last year when I wrote my FAT16 CFcard programme, so its not part of QCDEZE. It was no fun and I would need to be paid money to put it in. I suppose it works in QPC2 because that accesses the files using Windows. Interesting. I had not thought of that. More for the next column them Glad to see someone reads the columns then - I do wonder at times. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0
Thanks but thats the manual seems to say what I have been using without success. do you need to specify an output device or font in the command line as well? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Southern Sent: 22 April 2005 19:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0 On Friday 22 April 2005 19:15, Duncan Neithercut wrote: Anyone an expert on Ghostscript. Have installed it on my Q60, and it works very well, prints postscript files and text and graphics. It comes with some utility scripts one of which gslp.ps allows the printing of text files directly to the printer without conversion to postscript. This works well also. My problem is that this script should also convert text files to postscript as a file. When I try to do this according to the manual I get an error message indicating that I have not passed it all the info it needs to do the job yet it has been set up according to the manual. Has anyone used it or GS generally? Try the following gslp -ptest.ps test.txt This uses the Ghostscript line printer to generate the postscript file called test.ps from the test.txt file. John S ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0
Hi Anyone an expert on Ghostscript. Have installed it on my Q60, and it works very well, prints postscript files and text and graphics. It comes with some utility scripts one of which gslp.ps allows the printing of text files directly to the printer without conversion to postscript. This works well also. My problem is that this script should also convert text files to postscript as a file. When I try to do this according to the manual I get an error message indicating that I have not passed it all the info it needs to do the job yet it has been set up according to the manual. Has anyone used it or GS generally? Duncan Neithercut ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles
Hi Malcolm Cadman Have tried to break QStarter - configuring it for a small number of executables +/- small window and other win drives but without success. Could there be a clash between the Easyptr extensions and some other key words in a toolkit or SBASIC to result in the EOF message? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Malcolm Cadman Sent: 09 April 2005 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Have also tried the configuration of Malcom Cadman : win1_ subdirectories: Worked OK - got a big list of executable files Umm ... I am glad that it is working for you, Duncan. Yet curious for myself ... I am using QPC2 with SMSQ/E. Which I assume it what Dilwyn is using. End of file error messages are irrating, yet I believe there is a simple cure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 09 April 2005 13:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles Thanks. Dilwyn Jones QStarter 1.01 - Works on a Q60 with smsqe 3.09 Duncan Neithercut -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles
Have also tried the configuration of Malcom Cadman : win1_ subdirectories: Worked OK - got a big list of executable files Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 09 April 2005 13:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles Thanks. Dilwyn Jones QStarter 1.01 - Works on a Q60 with smsqe 3.09 Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles
QStarter 1.01 - Works on a Q60 with smsqe 3.09 Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 07 April 2005 23:18 To: QL Users List Subject: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles At last I've been able to update the QStarter program thanks to an upgrade of an extensions file from Marcel. The updated v1.01 has just been uploaded to my website. Another new little program has been uploaded - QFiles is a button which calls a File_Select$ menu from QMenu to allow indirect pointer driven file selection from non-pointered programs such as Quill. Click on the QFiles button, select the file with the usual File_Select$ menu and the filename is placed in the stuffer buffer, ready to be recovered with a simple ALT-SPACE keypress in the non-pointered program. Obviously pointer environment and QMenu (Menu Extension from Jochen Merz) are required. If your version of QMenu is recent enough, QFiles will also use the System Palette colours. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Q-Starter
Hi, tried it got the Qlib error message : Line 600 MSTAT% Invalid name - an easy ptr extension? Can you distribute the easy ptr runtimes with it? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 03 April 2005 22:52 To: QL Users List Cc: QL News List Subject: [ql-users] Q-Starter Q-STARTER Q-Starter is a simple experimental program to see if I can successfully create a program which will run on anything from a QDOS system with pointer environment to the latest Window Manager 2 and use the System Palette. It is also my first attempt at writing a program to use scalable menus. In theory, it ought to display Launchpad-style menus on systems prior to Window Manager 2, and display System Palette colour menus on Window Manager 2 systems (SMSQ/E v3.09 or later). I would welcome feedback on this program, in particular any problems found in running it on older systems, being as my main QL at the time of writing is a QPC2 emulator! Oh, does this program do anything useful? Actually, yes it does. It's a mini program launcher, which searches for all program files it can find on your system starting from the drive/directory specified (optionally reading through subdirectories) and presenting these in a menu from which you can simply click on the program file to be executed. Leave it sat in your QPAC2 button frame to have it always available as a quick if slightly dirty program starter! Apologies to Marcel Kilgus for jumping the gun slightly - I've used the pre-release of Easyptr 4 to creating this program, which is an experimental release to invite feedback on any shortcomings. My hopes are that if this program works OK on older and newer systems, I'll be able to update my existing programs to use the excellent new facilities of Easyptr 4 as soon as the official release happens. I hope plenty of people will download and use Q-Starter (which is Freeware) and let me know if it works on their systems. My systems are: QPC2 v3.30 with SMSQ/E 3b09 Aurora (MinisQL) with JM ROM (Q-Starter has problems on SMSQ/E v3.06 for unknown reasons) Q-Starter works on QPC2 v3.30 and Aurora with JM QDOS ROM, I'd like to hear about success or otherwise on other systems. Hopefully, experience gained from writing this program will help and encourage me to write more programs to take advantage of the new facilities Marcel has worked so hard to bring us! http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm l -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] That Fast emulator
QemuFast or do you mean QPC2 3.30 Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy wood Sent: 30 March 2005 20:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] That Fast emulator Can anyone remind me of the name of that fast QL emulator that was mentioned on this list a while back? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users]Long file directory Trees
Per Witte writes: I once understood how Windoze got around the filename limitations of Msdos and thought it a clever idea (it was ugly, but it worked) but I can no longer remember. Does anyone here know? And would it be possible for us to make use of the same method? the LFN specification for DOS kept compatibility by segmenting the LFN across several entries into the directory but keeping the structure of each entry essentially the same as the original DOS directory entry and using the DOS attribute byte set to Read only, system, hidden and volume to signal that the entry is part of a LFN, each file still has the old DOS8.3 file name entry which remains as before is still readable by older programmes which ignore the LFN entries but software that can read the LFNs can detect that they are there and display the LFN instead of the DOS file name. Would it be possible to use a similar method - may depend on similaries or differences between the FAT 16/32 structure QXL.win file structures and Qx0 hard disk file structures - are they the same? and Qubide as well Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of P Witte Sent: 12 January 2005 02:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users]Long file directory Trees ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Lynx 282
Hi, Dilwyn wrote: Linux ports to QL systems will be a waste of time until either we all learn Linux or authors learn to make documentation make sense. Marcel has already explained about the terminfo, I didn't as its some time (years) since I set Lynx up and had forgotten I havent looked at email for a few days, as to documentation it's unfair to expect authors of computer software to also have report writing skills isn't it - its a really different skill :-) - same with occurs software for amigas, spectrums and PCs and QLs (even Marcel can be quite cryptic). In the PC world you can expect brand new hardware to come with non functioning software no manual unless you care to download som bland pdf files. I bought a new graphics card for my game playing son for Christmas - recommended in a PC magazine from one of the 2 big names in PC games graphics cards. The CDROM with the card would not install the drivers - demanded that basic drivers be installed first - spent an evening fighting with it then manually installed and next day found the latest edition of the drivers on a magazine cover disk which installed all software perfectly - what would happen to those punters who had not bought that magazine or could not force a manual install. Back to Lynx - the 2 config files need to be modified as well to set the home page - if not they can over ride the environment variables - lynxrc lynx_cfg., found that out when changing my home page for lynx. Finally I agree lynx is not the easiest browser to use ie cool linux non intuitive command line attitude, so when QPC2 3.30 is released we need a decent browser not lynx what is the state of play with Hyperbrowser from Tarquin Mills? Haven't managed to break QPC 3.30beta yet either. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 09 January 2005 17:34 -- Dilwyn Jones QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Q40 60 Screen Resolutions
Ffibys wrote : But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Yes, but what is the real reality - is there software documentation that would allow the jobbing tinkerer to do this to their own Qx0 - or do you mean it is theoretically possible if the supplier programmes some chips with alternative resolutions using specialist hardware tools and flogs them to the punters? If I had a choice why not the Qx0 is not cheap I would choose to have 512x256 mode 4, 640x480 mode 33, 848x480 mode 33 and 1024,512 mode 33. If mode 8 and/or 512x256 screens are essential it makes no sense to buy a Qx0 - there are cheaper options like QPC2, or a second hand SuperGold card. What resolutions would other Qx0 users like? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phoebus Dokos Sent: 05 January 2005 03:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40 60 Screen Resolutions Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,() jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 1024x512. Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the screen resolution? If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: 256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) 512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) 512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) 1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e
Rich Mellor wrote: well that's one out of 3 I guess - presume you also get the high colour mode (DISP_TYPE=33). 2 out of 4 now as I have no problem with it either am still only on 3.03 on the Q60. Yes Disp_type returns 33, just checked. Also it might be a legacy in the other twos boot from earlier versions of smsq/e - I had the disp_size command in my boot to be used only if I booted with 2.98 which was in the rom not configurable 2.99 which was LRESPRed Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: 22 December 2004 10:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:49 +0100, Jrme Grimbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: I have now spoken with two people who say that they have configured SMSQ/e for the Q40/Q60 to start in 1024x512 resolution with high colour drivers, but it does not start up in that mode. They have to issue a I'm using a Q40, previously with 3.01, now with 3.07 (no intermediate version), homebuilt (using Qmac). (Rom still in 2.98) I have no trouble starting in 1024x512, once the file has been configurated with menuconfig. well that's one out of 3 I guess - presume you also get the high colour mode (DISP_TYPE=33). Nevertheless, I did tried to put the 3.01 on Eprom, but they never boot the Q40. So, there is probably an issue and something broken somewhere. (And yes, I know how to program correctly the eprom, I had no trouble getting, modifiying and updating the 2.98 image... ) I have not yet tested 3.07 on eprom, but given that patch trace, I have barely any hope. Yes, this is something else that apparently needs to be fixed. Any volunteers ?? Also (I have not checked this myself) but someone with SMSQ/e v3.03 for the Gold Card (high colour version) has said that their boot program which just has LRESPR win1_smsq_gold now cycles - in the past it would not try to re-load smsq/e on top of itself. Well, my Q40 boot file starts with something along 100 IF VER$(1)==2.98 THEN LRESPR ... So at the second boot, there is no lrespr to do. I know that work around, but it should not ne necessary Certainly standard Gold Card smsq/e just ignores the LRESPR and goes to the next line - but the high colour v3.03 doesn't. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Hi, the GUI - I find that it does not list all printer drivers correctly - loses first the one so passes the driver ID one position out of step to the filter. I only have 6 installed only the Epson stylus ones. Also the radio button Yes for print on the screen does not clear when switched off No. Both remain selected so its difficult to know what is selected. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 01 December 2004 19:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Hi all, work on the Proforma printing suite continues. There is a new version on my website. This now contains the PFF device which, hopefully, is close to completion, pending bug fixes of the bugs you will find... Anyway, it will now call up a (configurable) file or (configurable) executable thing to be executed as soon as a channel is opened to it. It works here, but probably not at your place. Please give it a try, though. Please also Read The revamped Manual. As usual at: www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/14mljkl24/wolf/download/ Now it's more the question of what else will be implemented in the GUI (the printer option prog). For the time being, you can choose your Proforma printer, plus the font size. More options I can think of would be: - where to print to (par, ser etc...) - landscape printing? (i.e. rotate by 90 degrees - left upper margins - font size - font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably be a monspaced font, there is only one, courrier). What else can you think of? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Hi Rich, Whats wrong with a back ground job started at boot with low priority as the intermediate. It could : look for a configuration file and read that in then know to ; clear the pipe anytime something is put into it by PFF device save the contents of the pipe to a designated location on disk - ram rom win flp if so configured call the appropriate filter eg Quill files configured to be treated as ASCII as no printer driver loaded for this version of Quill Text 87 files treated as ESCP2 and a proportional font used for printing QD files have FF added by the filter and so on upto the user Or call the GUI before exec ing a filter if thats the configuration set up. GUI could be used to change configuration at run time and inform the background task by printing the new config file to the PFF device with a header that tells it to read the new configuration rather than call a filter etc Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: 28 November 2004 12:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter I think that Wolfgang has put together an excellent proposal here which is obviously very well thought out in the light of previous discussions. Having given this problem some considerable thought myself, I do think that Wolfgang's solution has some definite positive aspects, not least of which is the ability for us to program a GUI (Printer Control Program) in something easier than machine code PLUS no-one has to learn how to program in THINGs. The idea of a small background job initiated when the PFF device is loaded sounds ideal, provided that it can be configured with the location of the Printer Control Program which it needs to launch. I would also rather go for having this Printer Control Program start with a priority of zero, which can then be set to 1 (or higher) by the PFF device when it is asked to open a channel. The job's priority can be reset to 0 once it has created the necessary link between the PFF device and the Filter Program. However, I do perceive a problem here. I still favour the ability of the user being able to use either a PIPE or a file as the temporary storage for the output from the PFF device. This could of course be configurable in the same configuration block that contains the location of the Printer Control Program. However, we return to the main stumbling block. The Printer Control Program needs to maintain a set of channels open to temporary storage areas - how does the Printer Control Program pass the ID of the channel back to the PFF Device so that the PFF device knows where to output its data?? The GUI === The idea of this being launched as and when needed from disk sounds ideal. However, the reasons why it was proposed that some of this function be included within the Printer Control Program (running as a THING) are as follows: 1) If stored on floppy disk, we have to remember that the user may not have the correct disk in the drive. OK we can overcome this by prompting the user to insert this in the disk if required - however, what if they are using XChange program in one disk drive, their documents in another disk drive and then need a third disk containing the GUI and filter programs. 2) The various filter programs written for use with the system could register themselves with the THING, so that the user can be offered a list of the various output options available (it also means we do not have to re-write the GUI each time a new filter is written). The solution to this would be (presumably) for each filter to be stored in a specific directory - the GUI program could then look at the list of filters in that directory and check some sort of header (either within the filter or in a separate file for each filter), to see what solutions are available. A header would be preferable to using the actual name of the Filter. 3) How do we report back to the PFF device that printing has failed?? PFF options === Just a small comment here - the PFF device was not designed to allow the user (or program) to specify the type of output to produce. It is mainly to specify the type of output produced by the program - PFFe would be Epson ESC/P2 codes PFFn would be Native Proforma Output PFFp would be Postscript Output PFFg would be QL Graphics Dump Output Obviously these all require different filters - PFFn would be a simple filter to send the output directly to Proforma and PFFp would be one to send it directly to Ghostscript. The idea is not to allow a long device name, but rather one that is at most 5 characters, the same as allowed for SER devices. A letter is better than using the number to identify the type of output because
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Duncan - what has happened to your formatting?? Sorry I have been playing with the stettings in OE and thought I had improved them - obviously not!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: 28 November 2004 17:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:08:14 -, Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rich, Whats wrong with a back ground job started at boot with low priority as the intermediate. Didn't say there was anything wrong with this - it sounded quite a good idea. Its the communications which are a problem... It could : look for a configuration file and read that in then know to clear the pipe anytime something is put into it by PFF device save the contents of the pipe to a designated location on disk - ram rom win flp if so configured call the appropriate filter eg Quill files configured to be treated as ASCII as no printer driver loaded for this version of Quill. Text 87 files treated as ESCP2 and a proportional font used for printing. QD files have FF added by the filter and so on upto the user Or call the GUI before exec ing a filter if thats the configuration set up. Hmm I guess this could be an answer - the pipe from the PFF device could be kept relatively small and would soon be emptied as the Printer Control Program would soon open a channel to the temporary storage area and copy the information from the pipe to there... Good idea unless anyone else sees a problem here GUI could be used to change configuration at run time and inform the background task by printing the new config file to the PFF device with a header that tells it to read the new configuration rather than call a filter etc Yes - that could be an idea - the header to tell it to read the new configuration data MUST containt non-printable codes however (otherwise you might get this special header inside a document - eg. the manual !!) Duncan - what has happened to your formatting?? Also, please don't quote the whole of an email - just the relevent parts as it makes it awkward to read. Duncan Neithercut -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Changing display size in QPC2
The problem is SuperBASIC. Any suggestions as to why this happens?? Aren't Jobs with windows outside the active screen area are killed after a resize? Dont know why. Alternative to resizing SBASIC windows is to put it asleep in a button before resizing and wake after screen resolution is restored. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: 27 November 2004 21:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Changing display size in QPC2 I know I shouldn't but QWord can be configured to allow it to change the screen resolution and colour depth to suit - it reads the parameters and resets the settings when it quits. The problem lies with SuperBASIC. The button frame can cope with this (although you buttons which could not be displayed on screen at the resolutions set by QWord). The problem is SuperBASIC. QWord uses a resolution of 640x480 If the 3 superBASIC windows (in standard WMON layout) are 640x480 or less, there is no problem. However, if the 3 SuperBASIC windows exceed this, when you quit QWord, you cannot see the SuperBASIC windows at all (even though they would now fit on the screen). Instead you get an empty square as the cursor. The button frame is still working. CTRL C can be used to get to see the SuperBASIC windows. Sometimes the cursor is active, but if you enter a command such as ED or PRINT free_mem - it hangs the system PRINT #0,free_mem works however !! Any suggestions as to why this happens?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
The problem is analysing the data, and the big difficulty with the QL survey is that it will be too biased to the users of this list who may not be typical of Quanta members. Yes but they are typical of active QL users the sort of people Quanta needs to court. What did you say you learned in market research? :- )) Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 25 November 2004 21:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Yes, the survey MAY shed some light on the subject - however, what's the betting that we get no more than 40 replies. What's wrong with 40 replies? It may surprise you but a lot of professional market research uses samples that are not much bigger than that. I have twice done work for a major car manufacturer. Each time the sample was 50 interviews with Dutch users and 50 UK users. The first car we did was universally praised and went on to be heavily advertised. The second was a top of the range 4x4 and we heard nothing but stories of loose ashtrays and malfunctioning computers that could not be overriden manually. Out of the Dutch sample two drivers had had the experience of the car coming to a complete standstill on the fast lane of a motorway. That model was never advertised, disappeared from the range and it is only now after some years that a new version has been released. (Interesting addtional point. It was not in the survey, but I could also tell that that particularly make of car was very popular under devout catholics.) The problem is analysing the data, and the big difficulty with the QL survey is that it will be too biased to the users of this list who may not be typical of Quanta members. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Geoff He has done a good bit of shooting also and IMHO for his personal satisfaction first leaving aside the needs of the users who have rallied to his call and invested in the Qx0 series, time and real cash! Its also no suprise that now when he appears some people thoughtlessly continue to shoot first. No matter how talented Peter is he needs a critical mass of interest and support as much as other developers interested in more PC orientated QL things. Those in this other camp desperately need his talents and area of focus hence the shots. It is past time to bury hatchets and act like adults. Those with most status have most to gain by bending a little. Those who may have to concede a little need to realise that not every conflict is decided by a single battle. A step back today does not meet loss forever or oblivion for a final vision. In a dialogue one concession needs to be matched with another. The World is a funny place. Send flames if you wish. I advise asbestos suits if you do. Best Wishes Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 26 November 2004 17:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Peter Graf is work on network drivers for the Qx0. What happens if an application crashes while printing, is the PFF device block from further use. Glad to hear it - its such a shame that Peter does not keep everyone informed of what he is working on - it might generate more interest in the Q40 / Q60. Plus someone might be willing to help. You cannot expect Peter to contribute to this discussion when he gets shot at everytime he pokes his head above the parapet. Don't forget that after his last contribution to this list two people told him he was not welcome and only one defended him. He is not there to be switched on an off as we want. If you want information from Peter, why don't you email him privately? I had an extensive correspondence with him over QL2004 without any problems. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...
Dilwyn The simple solution is Compact flash cards. A 256MB card is only £30 in PC World - not the cheapest place either. Readers exist on : Qubide, PC and Qx0. The CF people have decided to use FAT16 format for cards upto 1 GB. I expect but dont know that zip drives under this capacity also use FAT16 as this is the Windows way. I also suspect but dont know that all the other formats like SmartMedia and XD etc also use FAT 16 upto 1 GB. The difference will lie in the reseved sectors for PC devices which my programe ignores. Anyone got an IDE multicard reader to test this on or a spare Zip drive, promise to return it? I have written software that allows me to read write and delete from the Qx0 to FAT16 formatted cards with a crap user interface. I expectthat the FAT 16 SBASIC will also work on Qubide Aurora as Qubide also supports IDE CF card readers. At the moment I am finishing the nice GUI which I decided a while ago in a moment of optimism to write using QPTR from scratch. Dont hold your breath but it will be finished, but once completed it should solve the PC to QL transfer for me and for MBs of data. If people want to go above the 1Gb limit FAT32 is not much different from FAT16 - key difference is obviously the size of pointer to FAT table sector. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2004 10:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict... Of course there is. What is wrong with qtpi? That will work with any old terminal program on any platform. Have never used qtpi I must admit - now here's another possible article for Quanta if someone wants to write it.. How to use QTPI and/or transfer files between the QL and PC. Just as Tony recovers from the Quanta questionnaire there's an ideal next job for him ;-) I still think that Di-Ren's software was a good idea - it allowed you to use the hard disk on a PC for storage - now if that could be used to store files within a QXL.WIN file on the PC Guess you'll say just run QTPI on both the QL and from within an emulator on the PC (if user has bought a copy). Sernet is probably just as viable a solution, if you can get it to connect between the machines in question. Sernet and QL-PC Fileserver must work at about the same speed (i.e. limited by serial ports) I'd have thought. Pity Qubide doesn't do QXL.WIN or you might have been able to speed up disk transfer with an IDE Iomega Zip or EZ135 drive or some such device capable of connection to QL and PC. If Duncan Neithercutt or Wolgang Lenerz are listening, could programs like QCDEZE or QXLWIN help put files into a QXL.WIN on a zip disk on a Qubide equipped QL? There was also a version of Discover which I remember Dave Walker proposing at one point for Qubides, don't know how far that got. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Its on Dilwyn Jones PD CDROM If you dont have that let me know I can zip you a copy. All it does its create a device to which you can send print output. Does nothing with it. Tested it last night on QPC2 with QD and nothing happened so it must work! Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: 25 November 2004 16:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:00:25 -, Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also willing to help out : Have you thought of starting with the source code of Norman Dunbars Black_Hole device publised in QLToday 1996 Duncan Neithercut Anyone got a copy please?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] The Way Forward
I think they are your concern not directly perhaps but indirectly as a means of keeping a critical mass of people interested. There will be no separate discussion of hardware unless there are enough users. Thank you for your support of the lists goals in general. They are not by any means exclusive or complete. so if you have a specific hardware project in mind chuck it in. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave P Sent: 24 November 2004 21:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] The Way Forward On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Duncan Neithercut wrote: Do you agree with above if so let the committee members on the list know. These are a clear and agreeable summary of goals. The real question is whether the goals are desirable or achievable. I think most of the goals are internal to Quanta and not my concern as a non-member, but seem sensible. The hardware goal is more troublesome. I believe that requires a separate thread and a broad, practical discussion about what is best for SMSQ/E since the hardware is just something to run SMSQ/E... Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH
The question actually is which one of these schemes do QL users want : I think the democratic version Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of - Aucun - Sent: 23 November 2004 09:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH So, essentially, throwing muck at Quanta is part of the problem. It's an information and opinion overload that prevents any concensus. half the people are for something. Half the people are against something. There's lots of overlap. Paralysis! In a business there is only one who takes decisions. Can be dangerous but also very successfull. In a democracy people are elected on a program, and then they more or less do what they said. Are the decisions at Quanta top level made according to one of these schemes? Arnould WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH
I disagree with your last comment : some one with a clear objectively based mandate from a major section of QL users who sits on the Quanta committee has a lever that can move mountains despite personal differences. (You can have some fun as well the chairman thinks this list is Quanta's and if so any opinions represent the membership) All you need to do is pick up the mandate that is drifing in this list and make it objective have some names who will help out with bits (I dont need to tell you this as you organised QL2004) and this is the clever bit give some thought to the topology of discussion before you start - as long as a discussion is run on your topology you win. This is based on experience in a massive organisation as the director of one of its competing components. Best Wishes Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 23 November 2004 20:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Before I answer your comments a personal opinion. During the time I have been in Quanta I have not seen a chairman make such a serious blunder as this one. He clearly has no idea where the boundaries of his power and responsibilities lie. I would expect any chairman who has made a blunder of this magnitude to do the honourable thing and consider his position. Unfortunately this chairman has compounded the error by not being man enough to apologise, but instead has tried to pretend he has done nothing wrong by using the weasel word term that this list is a Quanta Forum. Has he thought through the full legal implications of this? Does he really wish to see the assets of Quanta lining the pockets of our learned friends? They could well do yet. Now to deal with your points: BTW leaving aside who owns this list which has been clarified by Bruce Nicholls there are troubling elements in Mr Masons email : 1) The precise timing of the emails referred to and in particular the 4 minute response to the original email that upset Mr Mason - the nearest I have in timing in my archive (deleted folder) is one thanking the sender of the first for his work in setting up the meeting and indicating that he is looking forward to it. Whats upsetting about that? You are not the only one having difficulty in this. Even I have and I wrote the damn things. What is clear from the whole mailing is that accuracy is not one of the chairman's strengths. (Or maybe the reason the committee are out of touch with the members is because they live in a different time warp from the rest of us.) My reconstruction is that my email was sent at 20.00 on 12th October 2004. (What John Mason did not tell us was that this email was a response to one complaining that Quanta had not replied at all to a request for information for the QL2004 mailshot. ) There was then a reply from Marcel at 20.34 in which there was nothing that could be regarded as offensive. The next came in at 20.52 from Tony Firshman. Tony included the line I would like to be a fly on the wall at committee meetings. I can only assume that this is the email that John Mason was referring to and this was the reason for his vitriolic and irrelevant outburst against Tony. If the chairman is so sensitive that he cannot take a little bit of banter like that, then god help us all. 2) The almost defamatory email of saturday 12th November : Which saturday the 12th November was that email sent. We haven't had a saturday 12th November this year. Again I think you have to enter the Quanta time warp to understand what happened. I think he means 13th November sent 18.20. I am not sure what has upset him in this email. I thought I had identified it, but I have had second thoughts. (You need a degree in Kremlinology to penetrate the thought processes of the Dear Chairman.) Thus you are on your own if you want to find the naughty bit. Just a hint, I suspect it is in the nice things I wrote rather than the nasty. BTW now you know why your moderator idea never had a chance of getting off the ground, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on the Internet (5.4.3.....)
Hi Tarquin, Have you got 5 volunteers? I would be interested not because need access to the www via QL but to find out if it is posssible and workable. Are you interested in the 2 articles that I referred to? If so I could send you them off list. The one of the two also refers to other articles in the defunct IQLR. Does anyone reading the list have copies that they could make available to me? Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tarquin Mills Sent: 21 November 2004 19:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QL on the Internet (5.4.3.) Tarquin Mills wrote: Duncan Neithercut wrote: So reinvigorating Quanta - Some other ideas : Internet access on QL systems : It is possible using a UNIX shell account software that already exists according to an article on the DJ emulators CD : - The QUANTA committee could identify a provider bundle access to this sort of account plus software with membership. I was thinking of running such a services for ACCUS members, I could run it for Quanta to. If five QLers think this is a good idea, I will called NTL tomorrow to have a second telephone line put in, for a 6 month trial. If you have a free national calls service (such as Onetels) it would cost nothing. -- It's the final countdown ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
To answer the point about power authority in a general but relevant way in human society power is not an attribute that any individual has intrinsically it is actually something that is given by those who are under the authority of the powerful indivdual. Sometimes it is given because gun barrels are pointing and sometimes because of a collective belief eg in democracy or a religion. You saw the collapse of a collective belief in a particular power structure in eastern europe with the collapse of soviet hegemony. So back to the QL world a realistic project that has the support of a significant number of people will empower the project leader. Is there a realistic project proposed for the proforma filter? If so the leader of the project will be empowered by interested parties. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 21 November 2004 09:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter On 20 Nov 2004 at 10:22, Roy wood wrote: (...) . If you say, 'I have written this but I don't know how to take this further' then that is reasonable. If you say, 'I have written this and it does all I need so I am stopping now' when you are capable of taking it a bit further and helping the rest of the users then you place yourself in the position of not being able to ask for help in other areas. provocation mode Will I want to?/provocation mode - well morally anyway. This was what I was trying to say. Oh, and incidentally, I mainly agree with you. I just thought I'd produce an outcry to see exactly where we are going. In this, I failed miserably. More seriously, this sort of thing we are trying to do has, to my knowledge never happended before in the QL world, except for SMSQ/E. What we need are some clearly defined goals and specifications (i.e we need to produce THIS software with THESE features functioning in THAT way). Joachim is on the way to define these specs pretty nicely - some more effort there, and we'll have a starting point. Then, somebody needs to take charge and parcel out the work to those who want it. On another level, this is exactly what Geoff did with QL 2004 (and many of us don't really realise how much we owe him for that, and how much of the success of QL 2004 was his!). So we need someone in charge (NOT me) who keeps bullying people to their part of the work. These people are supposed to do this for the good of the community - because it certainly won't be for a financial reward (let's not kid ourselves here, Quanta financing of something like that will never happen). The problem with this is that, we, as a community, are not! We're no community but rather a loose collection of individuals with, at some time, some common interest - which for many has been waning over the years... So what power does the person in charge have to make the others do what is needed? If he doesn't have that power is the project realistic at all? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH
I agree, in a democracy there is only one healthy response when the humble servant of the membership who has been honoured with the post of chairman of a hobby club tells people what to think and say and that is to think: resign Mr Chairman resign now and vote against him at the next election. BTW leaving aside who owns this list which has been clarified by Bruce Nicholls there are troubling elements in Mr Masons email : 1) The precise timing of the emails referred to and in particular the 4 minute response to the original email that upset Mr Mason - the nearest I have in timing in my archive (deleted folder) is one thanking the sender of the first for his work in setting up the meeting and indicating that he is looking forward to it. Whats upsetting about that? 2) The almost defamatory email of saturday 12th November : Which saturday the 12th November was that email sent. We haven't had a saturday 12th November this year. The size of the outburst along with the use of precise detail which is inaccurate, language and capitalisation can be taken to indicate a colossal stress level in the sender so perhaps a change of chairman should be contemplated for the good of Mr Masons health? Best wishes Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Taffel Sent: 21 November 2004 18:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH What an extraordinary outburst!! I'd be intrigued to know what the censored 4 paras said! This looks like an attempt to intimidate us all into silence by pretending that this is a Quanta list. Does he think we are totally stupid? Thank's Geoff for posting this and letting us see how unfit Mr Mason is chair Quanta. Perhaps we should all rejoin Quanta forthwith, just so that we can take the satisfaction in voting him out of office N.B. I left many years ago in protest in their misuse of members funds (honoraria). In my opinion, they are still mis-using the funds ; i.e. not using them. What is the point in a non-profit making organisation in making year upon year profits, and hoarding the cash whilst membership dwindles and the product slowly dies? anyone else up for a coup? Jeremy gwicks wrote: I have decided to forward this message as I think all Quanta members should read it. Derogatory comments about a third person have been removed. - Original Message - From: john mason To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Mason ; Geoff Wicks ; John Gregory ; Roy Brereton ; John Gilpin ; John Southern ; Tony Firshman Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH From: Chairman QUANTA To: ALL Subscribers QUANTA FORUM - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy to: Geoff Wicks, Tony Firshman, QUANTA Committee DTO: 201104:2030Z ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Some seven years ago Quanta Committee decided that it would be good for QL'ers to have their own Internet based Forum. Robin Barker, then Chairman, very kindly undertook the task of setting this up. At the same time he rationalised email contact with Committee Members by providing a system of email addresses which automatically forward to Committee Members no matter how many times they themselves change or how many times their personal email addresses do so as well. There were problems with the first chosen ISP, and another was found. The QUANTA email Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] site has more than proved its value to Quanta members as a place to present news, exchange ideas, solve problems, and perhaps most importantly debate issues of interest to the QL fraternity. Most topics are constructively discussed but not surprisingly occasionally debate gets quite heated. Fortunately, up to now, Quanta Committee have not had to intervene since the Forum has proved to be self regulating, and itself dealt quickly with any offender. That, unfortunately, cannot be said to be the position since mid October last. An email was posted on the board in which a subscriber alleged that Quanta is out of touch with the QL community, boasted that I had hijacked the QL2004 idea, said I don't regret doing it because we are going to have a bloody good time on Sunday , continued it would not have happened if we had left it to Quanta. Carried away by his own verbosity he carries on for some time making yet more allegations. Eventually saying Another thought I am having is what is the point of Quanta making another £1,000 profit if it never spends its money on anything and finally remarks Having written that I should remind everyone that I am a member of the Quanta committee and I accept a degree of responsibility, Within four minutes of this email being sent a second subscriber responded - adding to not, unfortunately, rebuking the first. Seemingly mistaking Quanta Committee's Freedom of Speech tolerance policy for something else the dialogue continued with the same slant, and eventually
RE: [ql-users] Perfection upgrade
Many thanks for your efforts on behalf of Perfection users. And a genuine special thanks for letting us know what the programme is. If you are successful in making contact - do you plan to ask for the source to be made available as PD or freeware and the same for other DP programs that are not yet in the public domain? Best Wishes Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Malcolm Cadman Sent: 19 November 2004 09:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Perfection upgrade In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes To reply to the queries below : Emails have been sent to try to contact David Batty, yet no reply has been received over the latter 3 weeks. A letter will also be sent to an address held. A request for information has also been placed in QL Today. If nothing resolves from all of this I am in discussion with Dave Gilham about an alternative way of releasing the upgrade to users. Overall please be patient as these things take time. Yes, I dont quite understand that if you already own a legal copy of Perfection why cannot be allowed to get hold of the upgrade. Happy to provide proof of purchase. DP are not trading so loss of profit should not be an issue, loss of support for previous commercial programmes is an issue to me for many of us but that is disregarded by traders that have disappeared - hats off to those who remain. How about this : whoever has it send me a copy please. I will look at the code compare it with the original copy I have and then try to create a program that will patch anyones legal copy upto the style of the upgraded version. To avoid copyright issues I will endevour to use different code in the patch - no problem for me as I am a menace as an assembler programmer and could never produce the polished code that the experts have done. Thanks to whovever sends a copy in advance. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Kemmett Sent: 17 November 2004 16:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Yes Duncan .. Its all gone VERY QUIET about that one again ... Flurry of hot air a few weeks back, but I've given up all hope of ever seeing it resurrected Brian Kemmett - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:18 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few individuals because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a defunct company - Duncan Neithercut -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Quanta
John Taylor wrote : I like the way all the ideas about what Quanta should be in the future are developing. Haven't we heard it all before? and Believe me, none of the proposals are original, they have all been discussed and muted, in some cases, several times. and What is wanted is someone who is willing and able to stimulate some action. The first two statements run down the present contributors to the debate : its old hat failed before == statements above The final statement is the killer to close down the discussion at a premature stage by requesting volunteers for an unspecified project with no known resources and an indeterminate closure. This is from Classic committee tactics to block something new - read the UK local government and civil servants classified training manual 2005 edition, its on the web. John then goes on to run down the present committee. This is not the point of this discussion about Quanta. Not all of the participants on this list are members, although many probably are. This list or similar is not yet a decision making organ of Quanta yet if more QL Quanta members were on the net it could be. To progress this discussion a moderator or instigator needs to put aside his/her personal individual preferences, listen to all the ideas on the list and dismiss none, but perhaps ask some individuals to explore some aspects of all of the ideas to assess their practicality with a view to producing a manifesto for Quanta regeneration that should be debated on this list but must ultimately be put to the membership committee before the AGM and subsequently resolved at the AGM. Any other process confirms John Taylor's and other's assessment of the triviality and hopelessness of any attempt at this stage to create a further resurgence of QL support. So final comments : I dont see why in the 21st century the new Quanta committee chairman cannot be located in San Francisco ( welcome aboard Delwin) Quanta and QL users are defacto a multinational organisation in the 21st century and must continue to be to survive. - and Geoff Wicks are you up to the challenge of picking up on this discussion and attempting to moderate it into a realistic consensus manifesto that could be put to Quanta ??? :) Without the support and involvement of a respected figure ( yes I mean you) already within the committee the whole issue could be delayed until its all too late. Cheers Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: 19 November 2004 11:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Quanta I like the way all the ideas about what Quanta should be in the future are developing. Haven't we heard it all before? Believe me, none of the proposals are original, they have all been discussed and muted, in some cases, several times. The last thing the committee wants is a list of items for future discussion. What is wanted is someone who is willing and able to stimulate some action. This, it must be admitted will be impossible with the present committee. Attitudes there are too deeply ingrained. To put it simply, they have lost the plot. So too have the members of Quanta. There has been little or no evidence of any interest in what the committee are doing and as a consequence the committee have shown very little interest in what the members are doing. Perhaps Quanta has the sort of committee it deserves. Quanta for many years was the backbone of the QL scene and it could be again. You have three months to sort out the mess, and by that I mean, find the right people, elect them, then support them Launching QL2005 could be a start. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Quanta membership
Geoff - I thought you are a committee member : customer care would suggest that you should offer to get the potential new member contacted by the correct Quanta membership secretary tonight : he (the membership secretary if this list is an accurate barometer must be thirsting for his first new signing anyway) :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 19 November 2004 20:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Yes, I dont quite understand that if you already own a legal copy of Perfection why cannot be allowed to get hold of the upgrade. Happy to provide proof of purchase. DP are not trading so loss of profit should not be an issue, loss of support for previous commercial programmes is an issue to me for many of us but that is disregarded by traders that have disappeared - hats off to those who remain. How about this : whoever has it send me a copy please. I will look at the code compare it with the original copy I have and then try to create a program that will patch anyones legal copy upto the style of the upgraded version. To avoid copyright issues I will endevour to use different code in the patch - no problem for me as I am a menace as an assembler programmer and could never produce the polished code that the experts have done. Thanks to whovever sends a copy in advance. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Kemmett Sent: 17 November 2004 16:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Yes Duncan .. Its all gone VERY QUIET about that one again ... Flurry of hot air a few weeks back, but I've given up all hope of ever seeing it resurrected Brian Kemmett - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:18 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few individuals because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a defunct company - Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 15 November 2004 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Let me remind everyone once again that the Quanta subscription is currently £4 per year higher than is necessary to run the organisation. If Quanta are not prepared to spend this £4 on QL2005, what are they going to spend it on? There are other things the £4 could be spent on, like making the magazine colour, projects like printer software, a better SGC or a lottery bid for a portable case, USB, ethernet etc. etc. I think Quanta members are price innerlastic and therefore after over 10 years at £14 we should be raising the price. How many members will the reduction to £10 generate, have you got a plan to target poor QLers and potential poor QLers (say a free QL scheme)? Does the £14/£17 cost differential have to be kept? Lets not fade away. Thanks for this contribution, Tarquin, it is the sort of discussion we should be having. I would like to see the subscription stay at £14 with the differential removed. (The £3 extra for overseas members only brings in £150 from an income of £6000). I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Dont walk away : Quanta is sitting on a stack of cash that should be used for the benefit of Quanta members and QL users in general, I guess that most who are left on the scene must have been members at one time. Geoff Wicks is right to try to identify a way of spending some of that cash to help the scene along at the moment. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Kemmett Sent: 17 November 2004 16:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Well, I was(am) until the current subscription ends. Brian Kemmett - Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Dent wrote: How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ? This could lose as many members as it gains. I suspect a fair proportion of the current paying membership members through inertia. A pound or so a month is not much to pay for a bit of nostalgia when (and if!) the Quanta newsletter arrives, although we are not active users any longer. Most don't even bother to lurk here. A change in the sub would only draw attention to the direct debit I don't think there is a crowd out there who refrain from joining for the sake of a penny a day! I am happy to continue to contribute a little financially. I even had a flush of enthusiasm when Jimmy Montesinos updated Qlay, and I wrote an piece for Quanta. Frankly, however, I am not even prepared to pay the cost of an emulator to further my interest. I agree that my investment in Quanta over the years should be spent to further the cause, before it's too late and the Red Cross get it. -- Regards, Stephen Just as a passing thought, does anyone have any idea as to how many of you guys who contribute to this list are current members of Quanta? Regards, John Gilpin. With my Membership Secretary's hat on. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Geoff Wicks wrote : I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. So reinvigorating Quanta - Some other ideas : Internet access on QL systems : It is possible using a UNIX shell account software that already exists according to an article on the DJ emulators CD : - The QUANTA committee could identify a provider bundle access to this sort of account plus software with membership. The magazine : shortage of articles but healthy finance : why not commission some show piece articles to make the magazine worth reading again - eg an idiots guide to using Ghostscript, line design etc etc. BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few individuals because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a defunct company - Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 15 November 2004 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Let me remind everyone once again that the Quanta subscription is currently £4 per year higher than is necessary to run the organisation. If Quanta are not prepared to spend this £4 on QL2005, what are they going to spend it on? There are other things the £4 could be spent on, like making the magazine colour, projects like printer software, a better SGC or a lottery bid for a portable case, USB, ethernet etc. etc. I think Quanta members are price innerlastic and therefore after over 10 years at £14 we should be raising the price. How many members will the reduction to £10 generate, have you got a plan to target poor QLers and potential poor QLers (say a free QL scheme)? Does the £14/£17 cost differential have to be kept? Lets not fade away. Thanks for this contribution, Tarquin, it is the sort of discussion we should be having. I would like to see the subscription stay at £14 with the differential removed. (The £3 extra for overseas members only brings in £150 from an income of £6000). I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Hi, Tried the GUI program filter also got the same error message as Rich because I had not change the default location for the filter program on the GUI menu to the correct location - could that be the same cause ae Rich had? However I now have problem 2 : once the filter program is called by the GUI and the message screen is displaying that it is starting to process the file the filter quits with a QLIB error that indicates it is missing a SBAS extension IS_JOB - is this from a toolkit on your site? or another? Thanks in advance Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 16 November 2004 16:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter On 16 Nov 2004 at 9:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work Wolfgang - many thanks for making this start All we need now is for someone to convert it to run as a device driver, so that programs can simply output to PAR direct into the filter. There's about 0% chance of that happening. I have however come across a problem running it on the latest QPC2 - just tried printing a basic program from within the GUI program - I got a Q-Lib error: Job 21 test Line 1360 Q-Lib error Indices wrong Uh, how strange. That line just says define procedure select_font (t%) Could you let me have the file you were trying to print from it? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] QPC beta testers
Willing to be a beta tester Is there any training? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus Sent: 08 November 2004 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QPC beta testers I have a few openings left in the QPC beta tester team. If you seriously want to get the latest versions as soon as possible please contact me privately. Those who got the latest beta yesterday are already on the list, obviously, and don't need to contact me ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us
Geoff How many of the 300 Quanta members subscribe to this group? Perhaps you know. I dont, my guess is perhaps 63 - based on 1 in 20 rule, if one person complains then approximately 20 others are also dissatisfied and assuming all subscribers will happily dump their committee with the responsibility of organising the meeting, as it is an easy choice for most. It is therefore possible that you are jumping to conclusions about the membership. It is usually bad policy to disrespect your membership if you are a committee member, and if you are a trader as well!! Obviously Geoff knows the current committee better than the run of the mill Quanta members, we dont turn up to the AGM anyway, and he has stated publically he has no confidence in his colleagues on the commitee to organise QL2005 (why are you on the committee?). Logically therefore I vote as a Quanta member of good standing that Geoff should organise this meeting in the UK and have it as close to the center of England as possible and as near Birmingham or Manchester as possible. Regards Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 28 October 2004 18:51 To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us - Original Message - From: David Tubbs To an outsider it looks like Geoff is Minister without portfolio, and a bit of a maverick to boot ! Like I have said before on this list, in my days as a probation officer I was assessed on a training course as a constructive subversive. Another hangover I have from my probation officer days is that when people make an agreement with me I expect them to keep it. If not, I punch hard. Best of luck to him if he is trying to get things moving. Seems a bit like part of the dog asking the tail to wag the dog. Do the articles not stipulate a duty on the officers, should they not pro-actively poll the membership with a choice of possible projects ? Then extract the digits, make something happen ! Work is out for yourself. There are 6 people on the Quanta committee. Two of us monitor this list and another is an active member of a subgroup. How do the other three keep up to date with QL developments? If their contact with other QL-ers is mainly fellow committee members, then there is a danger the committee will develop, metaphorically speaking, into a mutual masturbation group. Put in a practical way. Quanta was not present at QL2004, the most important international show for 4 years. Of the six committee members only one has first hand knowledge of QL2004, one has good second hand knowledge and 4 have no knowledge or at best filtered third hand knowledge. In all honesty have they the skills to run QL2005? But then are Quanta members any better than the committee? I have become a little bit sick of people *whispering* in my ear that they are on my side. Finally the QL2005 score: 3 Quanta members are interested 297 Quanta members are not interested The verdict is clear. 'nuff said, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
Yes at last some sense about copyright ; one of 3 major topics that are stifling QL viability. If David Gilham is willing to release his work as freeware he and others honesty believe and with reasonable justification i.e. emails, or letters or well recalled conversations that Freddie Vaccha has also agreed that the work (specifically perfection and related support programmes) to which he (FV) actually holds intellectual rights and has been assigned as freeware then this betatest version may also be passed on as freeware. If the holders of this version are still concerned about their responsibility to FV and cannot contact him all they need is the agreement of the individual or group (e.g. Quanta) to whom the software is released that the recipient or group will assume responsibility for any and all individually or collectively, financial compensation to the intellectual property holder that might arise out of any putative loss of profits to the copyright holder as a result of the release. Dont forget that copyright is basically about ideas as money which depends on the existence of a market. How many copies of Perfection have you sold in the last 5 years, DP, Roy or Jochem or Darren or DD or DJPD or Quanta ??? My estimate for profits for perfection sales for 2003 to 2004 is ?00.00p I have the idea that no one sold it since digital precision stopped trading in 1993 or there abouts and there has been no commercial effort by the copyright holders since DP stopped trading to sell DP programmes, or in any other way to assert copyright, so in any practical sense rights to costly financial compensation have been forfeit as a result of no commercial loss through the personal choice of the copyright holders especially as they have indicated their wilingness to release this programme as freeware, presumably in recognition of the poor market 10+ years ago and profits already realised. Copyright laws exist to protect the developers ( and their assignees) intellectual rights to a profit. Where a theoretical market exists without a possibility of a current commercial profit but where profits have been milked to satisfaction in the past copyright holders have a logical responsibility to the market to release their grip on profits to allow the market to redevelop into a position where they might again realise aspirations of intellectual copyright financially. Simply put they have a legal and moral obligation to their customers if they continue in business. If they do not continue in business they have no obligation to their previous customers but as they are no longer in business they have no legal, commercial or moral right to assert ownership of material where any commercial or any other market no longer exists. Basically same as if you are dead in the UK. Thoughts for the day Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 08 October 2004 17:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:44, David Gilham wrote: (...) . For what its worth Perfection has not been released as freeware or public domain and I would need permission from Freddy Vaccha to relase the binary let alone the sources to the general QL community. Hmm, Darren stated: Freddy gave permission for the original version to be released, ie. the one he created. If that's so, and if YOU agree to do the same with the modifications you've made, there shoudln't be ny problem to release your version! I don't know whther FV also released the sources (Darren?) but at least you could release the compiled version! Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Compact Flash Adapters
Does partition.exe recognise a slave HD? I'm not sure it does. All I think you need do do is to use the smsq/e HD commands. Set up the CF card as Win2_ or whatever Win number that is appropriate with the WIN_DRIVE command. Set the drive to be formattable with the WIN_FORMAT command and then format it with the FORMAT command. Fairly certain that is all I did when I installed one of Darren Branagh CF adaptors to my Aurora - definitely did not solder the Qubide at all. I think Phoebus supplied Darren with the adaptors which he sold so it may be the same as yours. You could try the commands before the soldering iron, just make certain that your master disk/partition is format protected. I made that mistake once, unprotected the master partition then tried to format a non existent drive and the format command defaulted to Win1_. Fortunately everything was backed up at the time. Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Fox Sent: 28 May 2004 18:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Compact Flash Adapters I have fitted one of Phoebus's Compact Flash Adapters to my Aurora System as a slave. It does have power and is connected to the IDE cable into Qubide 2.01. Partition_exe only recognises the IBM hard disk. Where, please do I go from there? I have this idea to mirror my QPC2 environment on the Compact Flash Card on the Aurora Machine. Best Wishes, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
RE: [ql-users] Thierry Godefroy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2004 12:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Thierry Godefroy Does anyone have Thierry's current email address?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) is coming back user unknown -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH TEL: 01977 610509 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
RE: [ql-users] 41K virus
Hi According to norton antivirus the one I am getting W32.Netsky virus. Its must be someone on this list who is infected. Does anyone know a nicholas hearne. Never heard of him but he is one of the senders of this virus. I think someone on this list knows him or knows someone who knows him and has the virus. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 26 March 2004 23:27 To: QL Users List Subject: [ql-users] 41K virus While downloading my emails tonight I noticed it was slow and the stats said I seemed to be sending about 10 times as much data as I was sending. Yes, I had one of the hundreds of 41K viruses (message failure) worms or virus, whatever they were, probably emailing everyone in sight from my address book. AVG's removed it now, but if anyone gets one of those emails from me DON'T open it. Don't even preview it (Outlook Express users turn off your preview pane...that's how I got caught out) In some emails, there is an attachment of length 41KB or 42KB, in other ones, looking at th email properties does not show an attachment, but the email is 42KB long. Apologies to anyone affected. I thought I'd learned not to fall for this by now, luckily the free AVG anti-virus can handle this virus. -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
