Re: Server with two dsl-lines
Windows http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/951/ Load Balance Network Adapters /(Windows NT/2000/XP)/ /Popular/ If you have two or more network cards in your system this setting allows you to distribute the number of connections, or sessions among the adapters according to a randomizing algorithm. Open your registry http://www.winguides.com/registry/article.php?id=1page=3 and find or create the key below. Create a new DWORD value, or modify the existing value, called RandomAdapter and set it according to the value data below. Exit your registry, you may need to restart or log out of Windows for the change to take effect. /*Note:* The Single Response http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/952/ setting should also be enable for this setting to be effective. / Registry Editor Example | NameTypeData| | (Default) REG_SZ (value not set) | | RandomAdapter REG_DWORD 0x0001 (1) | - | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\P... | - *_Registry Settings_* *System Key:* javascript:popuphelp('registry-settings','system_key') [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters] *Value Name:* javascript:popuphelp('registry-settings','value_name') RandomAdapter *Data Type:* javascript:popuphelp('registry-settings','date_type') REG_DWORD (DWORD Value) *Value Data:* javascript:popuphelp('registry-settings','value_data') (0 = disabled, 1 = enabled) *_Related Tweaks_* * *Control Network Adapter Responses to a WINS Query* http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/952/ /(Windows NT/2000/XP)/ *Disclaimer:* Modifying the registry can cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. We cannot guarantee that problems resulting from modifications to the registry can be solved. Use the information provided at your own risk. Linux http://selab.edu.ms/twiki/bin/view/Networking/MultihomedLinuxNetworking http://www.lartc.org/howto/ linux Advanced Routing Traffic as mentioned BY DEFAULT this is not an easy out of box experience ;-) manual routes may be your current best choice for low cost [whether time or Ca$h] although I saw this 4.2.2. Load balancing The second question is how to balance traffic going out over the two providers. This is actually not hard if you already have set up split access as above. Instead of choosing one of the two providers as your default route, you now set up the default route to be a multipath route. In the default kernel this will balance routes over the two providers. It is done as follows (once more building on the example in the section on split-access): ip route add default scope global nexthop via $P1 dev $IF1 weight 1 \ nexthop via $P2 dev $IF2 weight 1 This will balance the routes over both providers. The *weight* parameters can be tweaked to favor one provider over the other. Note that balancing will not be perfect, as it is route based, and routes are cached. This means that routes to often-used sites will always be over the same provider. Furthermore, if you really want to do this, you probably also want to look at Julian Anastasov's patches at http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/#routes http://www.ssi.bg/%7Eja/#routes, Julian's route patch page. They will make things nicer to work with. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Networking.MultihomedLinuxNetworkingr1.8 - 06 Mar 2005 - 15:36 - NguyenDinhNam http://selab.edu.ms/twiki/bin/view/Main/NguyenDinhNamtopic end http://selab.edu.ms/twiki/bin/view/Networking/MultihomedLinuxNetworking#TopicEnd http://selab.edu.ms/twiki/bin/view/Networking/MultihomedLinuxNetworking#Actions */Note: This article is intended to be written for lartc http://www.lartc.org/howto/ so the numbering is from 4./* 4. Rules - routing policy database 4.1. Simple source policy routing 4.2. Multihomed Linux Networking This article tries to show you the prove of concept solution for the problem: We have a multihomed host - the host with multiple up-links (I use link to mention the connection to the internet to avoid confusing with TCP connections), how can we use these links efficiently? This is the basic article so some issues could be missed, most of them are intended to be so, in exchange for simplicity. I have an Advanced Multihomed Linux Networking^? http://selab.edu.ms/twiki/bin/edit/Networking/AdvancedMultihomedLinuxNetworking?topicparent=Networking.MultihomedLinuxNetworking article covering missing issues. The techniques discussed here *doesn't require you to patch the kernel* (unless you have a not-so-normal-network like described in 4.2.5) so it's a big plus for manageability - stock kernels are always more stable than customized one. 4.2.1. Network topology
Re: Error: 10061 whenever I change the connection port from default
Casey Diercks wrote: Ok, I took some of the suggestions and tried them out. Here is what is happening now. I have two computers both set up to receive incoming connections on port 5900 for the viewer, and 5800 on the java server (default settings on both). First, I forwarded port 5800 directly to machine 1, and am able to access from inside and outside the network with the java server. No problem, but I need this to work on both Machine 1 and Machine 2, so I need a way to get port 5800 forwarded to both machines. So I used my router to forward EXTERNAL port 5252 to port 5800 on machine 1, and forward EXTERNAL port 5254 to port 5800 on machine 2. (I'm using a Linksys router so I used the UPnP Forwarding function to do this). That way if I type in http://mydomain.com:5252, the router should direct the traffic to port 5800 on machine 1 (which it is because I am getting the java applet prompt). With that setup, everything works fine from within the LAN when using the VNC viewer. But, if I try to access one of the machines from inside OR outside the network using the java server, I get the refused connection message. The message is gives me is java.net.connect.Exception: connection refused. I tried every server name combination I could think of and it still boots me out. I tried www.mydomain.com:0, www.mydomain.com:1, www.mydomain.com:5800, www.mydomain.com:5252 you get the idea. Am I missing something??? I'm getting pretty frustrated here. It seems to me that this should be fairly easy to accomplish, but VNC keeps booting me out! HELP! You NEED to tell the Linksys router to forward connections directed to 5254 to YOURPC'sIP UnPnP won't do it because your are not initiating the connection from within your LAN ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: step by step
B. Scott Smith wrote: I'm not exactly sure how they do it, I suppose they must use a mediation server. Whereas straight RDP requires the supported PC to have port 3389 open, the Remote Assistance only requires outbound access to 3389 from both PC's. While this may be blocked by some corporate firewalls, standard home-based routers will work fine as is. At least it does for me... James Weatherall wrote: Scott, How does this eliminate firewall issues? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. Scott Smith Sent: 18 April 2005 16:35 To: Haggai Back Cc: VNC-List@realvnc.com Subject: Re: step by step If both computers are XP, and you would like your parents to request your help, then I would recommend using the built-in Remote Assistance feature of XP. Your parents would simply email you a request, and you will be able to immediately take control of the desktop. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain /rmassist.mspx This will eliminate firewall issues and allow you to chat while controlling the remote PC. Haggai Back wrote: Hello, I've read a lot of questions and answers about that, but still could not apply: I want to connect my parent's computer via Internet. We both using XP I have their ip as: xxx.xx.xxx.xxx,xxx.xx.xx.xx Where should I write the ip? Which ip? The first/second or both? Do we need to open server/client before connecting *From Microsoft technet quoted page link above ;-P Note*: If the person who is being helped is behind a firewall, NAT, or ICS, Remote Assistance will still function as long as the person being helped initiates the session via Windows Messenger. However, as stated above, Remote Assistance will not work in cases when the outbound traffic from port 3389 is blocked. Administering Remote Assistance in Corporate Environments There are several issues to consider when managing and administering Remote Assistance in the corporate environment or large organization. You can specify an open environment where employees can receive Remote Assistance from outside the corporate firewall. Or you can restrict Remote Assistance via Group Policy and specify various levels of permissions such as only allowing Remote Assistance from within the corporate firewall. Configuring Port 3389 to Enable Remote Assistance Remote Assistance runs over the top of Terminal Services technology, which means it needs to use the same port already used by Terminal Services: port 3389. For more information about using and configuring ports, see this Microsoft Knowledge Base article http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150543sd=tech. *Note*: If the person who is being helped is behind a firewall, NAT, or ICS, Remote Assistance will still function as long as the person being helped initiates the session via Windows Messenger. However, as stated above, Remote Assistance will not work in cases when the outbound traffic from port 3389 is blocked. Using Remote Assistance in a Home Network If you are using Personal Firewall or NAT in a home environment, you can use Remote Assistance without any special configurations. However, if you have a corporate-like firewall in a home environment, the same restrictions apply: you would need to open Port 3389 in order to use Remote Assistance. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Can't get to display screen
Jana Nguyen wrote: John Aldrich wrote: You dont' have a window manager (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, IceWM, etc) running. I have a window manager (Gnome) running on the vnc server side. One question: How are you invoking the VNC Server? Are you starting it from a command line from an SSH or Telnet session? I launch the vnc viewer on my windows xp that was created after running the vnc setup. If so, check your .vnc folder and look for a file called xstartup and make sure it looks something like this: #!/bin/sh # Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc Yep, it looks like that. Anymore ideas to my problem? Thanks, Jana -Original Message- From: Jana Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:40 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Can't get to display screen Hi there, After entering the ip address of the vnc server and password on the vnc client to connect. This authenticate fine, but it gives me a blank grey screen with only 2 radio button after authentication: 1) Send clipboard to viewer 2) Send primary selection to viewers I am running the vnc server Xnvcn version 4.0b4 on Red hat linux enterprise 3 workstation, and vnc client 4.1.1 (free edition) on windows xp. May I ask why am I getting the problem above and how to solve it? Thank you, Jana ___ When that happens I use a terminal session finding out which display is used and type twm -d :1 if it is display 1 ;-0 and I get menus at least steve ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta
Thomas, Robb (Alberni) wrote: Just noticed that VNC shows up as a Moderate Threat in the beta version of Microsoft anti-spyware. Meanwhile the remote support (built into XP) does not show up as a moderate threat. Figured it would give people the 'heads up' before it comes out of beta. Regards, Robb ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Well It is a threat.. if the User/ administrator did not install it ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta
Erik Soderquist wrote: what user *chooses* to install microsoft's remote support? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evets dranem Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 09:26 To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta Thomas, Robb (Alberni) wrote: Just noticed that VNC shows up as a Moderate Threat in the beta version of Microsoft anti-spyware. Meanwhile the remote support(built into XP) does not show up as a moderate threat. Figured it wouldgive people the 'heads up' before it comes out of beta. Regards, Robb ___ Well It is a threat.. if the User/ administrator did not install it _ If an end User or administrator DID NOT Install RealVNC It would be a threat, Absolutely; Administrators Already know that XP has remote capabilities and have [en/dis]abled according to their [group/local security/firewall] policy As for Windows Remote Control Nobody CHOOSES to install it; although they could preclude it's use They find out it HAS_BEEN previously installed from the factory waiting to be initiated with a check mark in a control panel ; or on-line Chat with MSN or quick email to a support person bypassing firewall [if chatting is allowed ;-)] Also they way remote assistance works; the user requests assistance and by default support personnel have 30 days to complete the request ;-P I think we see Microsoft's definition of _timeliness_ come into play Steve ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: multiple computers
Scott C. Best wrote: Daniel: Heya. It's a good question, and fortunately has a fairly good answer. :) Here's a URL that should help: http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/64.html The xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:5930, with one :, tells the Viewer to connect to Display 5930 which, as above, would be on TCP port 5900+5930. You want to either use xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:30 or xxx.xxx.xxx.xx::5930 with the double-:: format. -Scott I have a question about multiple computers inside of a lan, being accessed from the WAN. I have 4 computers inside my hame LAN, and would like to be able to access all of them outside the WAN. I know I can change the port numbers on everything, one could be 5900, one 5910 one 5920 and one 5930 is I wanted. but how does the viewer program on the computer I want to access from, know what port I want to go to. in the view I just put in my ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xx. would I put it in xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:5930 if I wanted the third computer. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Well I believe it is actually if Single Colon [:]if less than 100 add to 5900 else use port or if double Colon [::] Use port Specified x.x.x.x:30use port 5930 x.x.x.x:5930use port 5930 x.x.x.x::30 use port 30 x.x.x.x.::5930 use port 5930 steve ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: connecting to networked computers behind xp firwall (no router)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone, i have a set up like this at home . . . cable modem, living room computer (shares internet connection) then 3 networked computers.All are running XP home w/ SP2. I want to be able to connect to each computer while i go away to college and be able to help my family fix problems.but, i'm having trouble setting up the living room computer to properly direct requests on ports to the other computers.I AM NOT INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A ROUTER!! if someone could give me a quick step by step or a website on how to tell the SP2 firewall to send my requests to certain computers, that would be great!!I kept trying to search the realvnc lists for this topic, but could never find what i was looking for, if it is a repeat, i'm sorry, and please direct me to the answer i'm looking for. thanksmike ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list You will need to find someone that can help you with WINDOWS Internet connection sharing; this list is for RealVNC; that is what needs to direct the traffic Or simply by a freaking router and be done with it ;-) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Can't connect to server outside network
Mark Kluge wrote: It's windows xp pro. No service pack 2. No software firewalls - Original Message - From: evets dranem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Can't connect to server outside network Mark wrote: I see tons of people complaing about this problem, but no solutions!! I tried opening the ports. I tried enabling dmz. I just can't connect from outside the network. All attempts time out. what is going on here? I've never had such a problem. The ports are open. People can ping me. Yet the server can't connect. - mark ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list what operating system are you using if its windows it may be a software firewall or if it's XP it may be the built-in firewall needing an exception or if it's linux maybe the ipchains or iptables or shorewall or Linux Firewaal may need tweaking from the command prompt of the machine you are serving from telnet 127.0.0.1 5900 if you get RFB 00x.00x you can probably connect from the remote machine telnet x.x.x.x 5900 again if you get RFB 00x.00x you can probably connect otherwise the network is probably firewalled in _some_way the advanced properties of the network connection may have port limitations or there may be a router that does not allow ports to flow to this machine ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: What on Earth is Session Zero?
Stephen There is no compatibility problem with XP Home or Pro with RealVNC The problem is entirely with the current user setup from some of the emails I have seen there is absolutely no use for the firewall router other than sharing the Internet connection it is not protecting you in the least according to your description of the firewall rules] Are you running the server on XP Home edition, as this appears to be where the incompatibility lies? In _YOUR_ System the compatibility problem exists you need to specifically allocate with port / IP combination is in use this is entirely demonstrable by connecting machine A to B inside the same network ie 192.168.0.103 to 192.168.0.102 it will work like a charm if the user sets it up properly It certainly appears to be a problem with your router/firewall Attacking someone's software (does do only one thing...) while trying to get them to help you is a dubious proposition at best. it's almost certainly something in your environment that's wrong. The fact that it works if someone does an AddClient seems interesting to me, but I think the next that I would try, is to swap the ip addresses between the XP Home and Windows ME machines, and see what happens. If the problem follows the ip address, then it's clearly something in your router setup. If it doesn't, then it's something on your XP home machine. It could be something as simple as desktop control software, some fancy screensaver or desktop add on, or something like that. -Kelly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:50 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: What on Earth is Session Zero? I am getting really really fed up with RealVNC. All it will ever ever do is say Connection Refused Eror 10061, and yes I have checked every single thing to do with firewalls over and over again, all firewalls are completely off, RealVNC viewer and server are exceptions in Windows Firewall list anyway. The exact same system works with a Windows ME PC on the same router, and no the other PC is not switched on, and no I do not use the same port number, yes the server is running on the XP PC, yes I am accessing the right PC. It DOES work if I phone someone at the other end and get them to initiaite the connection with Add New Client, but it is never possible to connect from my end with RealVNC viewer, or http in Internet Explorer. Because Add New Client is the only thing that has ever worked, it means that the full extent of the usefulness of RealVNC is that it can be used if there is someone at the other end 24 hours a day who can be contacted by phone to Add New Client manually to initiate the connection. This is not how we want remote control software to work. I e-mailed Real VNC's help and support explaining the reality of Real VNC for the ordinary (XP Home) user, it is a piece of software which can and does do only one thing: put a message on the screen which says Connection Refused - in the REAL world RealVNC does not work. Their reply was, current releases of VNC Server will only allow session zero to be accessed remotely, and this may best be ensured by disabling Fast User Switching nor Remote Desktop in some cases. Disabling these features is described in the Windows XP documentation, which may be accessed via the Help and Support entry in the Start Menu of your Windows XP system. I have disabled Fast User Switching and Remote Desktop, and it has made no difference at all. What difference should it make? How is anyone supposed to know what SESSION ZERO is? What is it? I see no mention of session zero in Real VNC or in Windows XP Help. If attempting to get RealVNC to work relies on an understanding of the meaning of Session Zero, then no ordinary computer user can ever be expected to use RealVNC. Can someone please point me in the direction of a remote control Server which DOES work on Windows XP Home Edition? NOT Real VNC Server, NOT TightVNC Server (I have been down the same path with this and it also refuses to connect), NOT Windows Remote Desktop Server (deliberately disabled by Microsoft in XP Home Edition), NOT Microsoft Netmeeting Server (also deliberately disabled by Microsoft in XP Home Edition.) Is my problem because this deliberate disabling also disables Real VNC Server? It seems to me that RealVNC IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION and should not be advertised as though it is. Has anyone EVER had the remote control Server running correctly and accepting connections on Windows XP HOME Edition? ___ VNC-List mailing list http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Hi Stephen Remote control software for free that works EXTREMELY well is REALVNC; I am sure that TightVNC UltraVNC also work. If you are having that much of a problem go buy PC ANYWHERE. {although I am quite sure it won't solve your issue} and
Re: using a single viewer for multiple servers
Boudreaux, Mark wrote: I tried looking but I haven't seen this topic addressed. I want to use VNC in a classroom setting where the student computers will be servers and the teacher computer will use the viewer. (I've seen plenty of threads trying to do the opposite - one server to multiple viewers.) But what I'm looking for is a way to have one viewer easily look at up to 30 servers simultaneously, without running 30 separate instances of the viewer. Is there somebody who has already done something like this and knows of any way to make it happen? It would be nice if it could be automated, since the hosts are always the same. It would even be nicer if I could have all of the screens showing as thumbnail size and then they could be maximized as needed. We're using a mix of Windows platforms - mostly 98 and XP. Mark Boudreaux Network Manager - STHS ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list the item you want to do i launch 30 viewers each pointing at the students PC each window will be unique there are some utilties to tile windows and you can maximize which ever window you are interested in you will need substantial bandwidth being inside the classroom if runnign 100 bas ethernet shoud be quite sufficient as I have found VNC requires about 15K per second which is only 450K per second easi;y acheivable with 100 base ethernet evets ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
John Aldrich wrote: Ahh, you should have mentioned the wireless connection earlier. There have been a LOT of problems with wireless routers discussed on this list. If you plug a network cable between the router and the laptop, I think you'll find that resolves the issue. Maybe check with DLink to see if they will explain how to fix the problem, but it *definitely* appears to be a problem with the wireless portion of your router. I think if you scan the archives of this list for wireless you'll find that a LOT of people are in the same boat... unable to connect over the wireless connection. John -Original Message- From: Simen Lxland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:38 AM To: John Aldrich Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number OK, done that. But still can't connect to pc2, always get timeout. What does eccactly timeout mean? I have on pc2 on vncserver properties set up accect connections on port 5900/5800 (same for pc1) - is this right? Pc2 is by the way a laptob connecting wirelessly to the Dlink router - does this mean anything? I also have other config alternatives at the Dlink router, example I have an option to specify applications, here is the info text: Special Applications Some applications require multiple connections, such as Internet gaming, video conferencing, Internet telephony and others. These applications have difficulties working through NAT (Network Address Translation). If you need to run applications that require multiple connections, specify the port normally associated with an application in the Trigger Port field, select the protocol type as TCP (Transmission Control Protocol) or UDP (User Datagram Protocol), then enter the public ports associated with the trigger port to open them for inbound traffic. At the bottom of the screen, there are already defined well-known special applications. To use them, click on the edit icon and enable the service. Name - This is the name referencing the special application. Trigger Port - This is the port used to trigger the application. It can be either a single port or a range of ports. Trigger Type - This is the protocol used to trigger the special application. Public Port - This is the port number on the WAN side that will be used to access the application. You may define a single port or a range of ports. You can use a comma to add multiple ports or port ranges. Public Type - This is the protocol used for the special application. Another option is Filters Filters are used to deny or allow LAN computers from accessing the Internet. Within the local area network, the unit can be setup to deny Internet access to computers using the assigned IP or MAC addresses. The unit can also block users from accessing restricted web sites. Is it necessary to have anything on these options? On 12/10/05, John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simen: You *definitely* need to make sure your router is configured to send port public 5901 to PC2's private 5900. You have to use either :1 or ::5901 to access port 5901, because you can't have two machines listening on the same IP at the same port number. You already have port 5900 forwarded to PC#1's port 5900. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simen Lxland Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:01 AM To: James Weatherall Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number I'm not sure I undestand what you mean? Shal I in the viewer put xxx.redirectme.net::5901? this doesn't work, I'll get connect error 10060, also when i try in the viewer with ::5091. Why do I need to use 5901? and is this in the viewer or do I have to do anything by the port forwarding and on the vnc-server accept connections? On 12/10/05, James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simen, xxx.redirectme.net::5091 should be xxx.redirectme.net::5901. What is the error you get when you still can't connect? Still error 10060, or something else? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simen Lxland Sent: 12 October 2005 10:40 To: James Weatherall Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number Sorry, mispelled. I surely write xxx.redirectme.net:1 or xxx.redirectme.net::5091, but still can't connect On 12/10/05, James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simen, You are entering a URL into VNC Viewer. You need to enter just xxx.redirectme.net:1 into VNC Viewer, without the http: prefix. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simen Lxland Sent: 12 October 2005 08:19 To: James Weatherall Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number I still can't connect
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
James Weatherall wrote: Evets, Please provide the following details: 1. What port forwarding rules have you set up in your router? 2. What ports have you configured VNC Server to use to accept VNC connections, and to serve the Java VNC Viewer on? 3. Have you tried connecting using a native VNC Viewer, and if so then what have you entered into the Server field of the Connection Details box when trying to connect? What is the EXACT error you get when trying to connect? 4. The URLs above look like you're trying to use the Java VNC Viewer, except that the port number you are trying to use is almost certainly wrong. Are you trying to use the Java VNC Viewer and if so, what EXACT URL are you using? Does the viewer load but then fail to connect, or simply not load? Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. HI James I was responiding to someones else' question I have no problem coneting to my VNC inside my firewall ;-) [even when I have two firewalls in-line] I can connect to three machines inside 2 of windows XP Pro; Linux, The problem I do have is connecting to my wireless laptop althoug I can connect to it when it is hardwired I can conect OUT with the wireless just not in Using DYNDNS.org I can get clients to call me; I can call myself when I am off-site D-Link 804v Router Virtual Server Settings RULEinside IP 03. 192.168.8.100 5903 ~ 5903- Linux Mandrake 10.1 RealVNC 4.1 03. 192.168.8.100 88 ~ 88- Linux Mandrake 10.1 WebServer 03. 192.168.8.100 22 ~ 22- Linux Mandrake 10.1 04. 192.168.8.102 5907 ~ 5907- XPPro Server VNC 4.1.1 05. 192.168.8.101 5905 ~ 5905- Laptop Server [display Zero] 06. 192.168.8.101 5500 ~ 5500 - Listening Viewer 07. 192.168.8.101 5708 ~ 5708 - Laptop UserMode Steve 08. 192.168.8.1015500 ~ 5500 - Laptop UserMode Dale 09. 192.168.8.101 5805 ~ 5805 - Laptop Java [display Zero] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Setup Question
Warren Melhado wrote: I am considering the Enterprise Server version of RealVNP to provide remote access to several computers that are all part of a network. Each computer has a fixed IP address in the 10.10.10.xxx series and they are running behind a router that translates those addresses to a single address available to the Internet. I understand that the standard server port is 5900 and that port needs to be forwarded to a specific machine on the network. My question is how should I configure the router and forwarding to a specific machine. It would appear that I could configure additional ports, e.g., 5902, 5902, etc. and forward each to their respective computers. Is this a valid configuration or is there some other recommended method? Thanks, Warren ___ yes set each listening host to their own number IP:Port outside:5900 - 10.10.01.111:5900 outside:5901 - 10.10.01.145:5901 outside:5902 - 10.10.01.122:5902 outside:5903 - 10.10.01.113:5903 OR forward each port to a specific IP:5900 outside:5900 - 10.10.01.111:5900 outside:5901 - 10.10.01.145:5900 outside:5902 - 10.10.01.122:5900 outside:5903 - 10.10.01.113:5900 Friewall NAT Route would point which-ever where-ever ;-) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
Arthur Simpatico wrote: That's a very good point to bring up. I use static IP assignments for my wireless connection as well as the wired, since my router firmware allows for static IP assignments based on the MAC address. Without 'steady' IP addresses, you will have problems with VNC'ing IN to that computer without a doubt. I've stopped 83,729 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=f9r9z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. I. Becker Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:42 AM To: evets dranem; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number The problem I do have is connecting to my wireless laptop althoug I can connect to it when it is hardwired I can conect OUT with the wireless just not in Using DYNDNS.org I can get clients to call me; I can call myself when I am off-site D-Link 804v Router Virtual Server Settings RULEinside IP [snip] 05. 192.168.8.101 5905 ~ 5905- Laptop Server [display Zero] Steve, Does your laptop have the same IP address no matter which connection it uses? For instance it has IP address 192.168.8.101 when connected by cable, but it might have a different one when connecting via wireless. This is something that's tripped me up before now. Stewart [NutmeG] Becker ___ I have a seperate IP for each and a sepeate dedicated rule for each. I only run 11 or the other I have tried _ many_ combinations and have llearned that I need to switch to wired when I want toanswer an incoming support rquest Thanks for suggestions steve menard evets dranem;-) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Request times out when using Java Web Connection from outside my LAN
Matt Cassarino wrote: Hi, I love this program! It works great, as long as I'm accessing my VNC server from within my LAN. I cannot access my VNC server from a computer outside my LAN. I've had friends try to access my VNC server via web browser and they aren't able to bring up any webpage. My IP address for the server is showing as 192.168.0.101http://192.168.0.101, however my IP is different than that? Is this due to my router? My Windows XP Firewall? (as I've made it readily apparent, networking is not my specialty) I send my friends to http://192.168.0.101:5800 and they are not able to connect. Yet, if I go to this same address from another computer on my LAN, it brings up the Java app and password box. What gives? Also, a friend of mine in California (I am in Washington) shows the same IP address when he installed VNC server on his computer. So how is he supposed to connect to mine? Ahh, this is all so confusing. Especially when it works so well from within my LAN. We are both on Comcast... Anyways, I hope you don't think I've not looked at the FAQ, forums, and everywhere else -- I have. I just don't get it and so I decided to ask for help, officially. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Cassarino Cell: (206) 484-4626 Web: www.mattcass.com http://www.mattcass.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Try going to http://whatismyip.com it will tell you your internet IP that would correspond to your router/firewall you will thhen need to create a rule that your router forwards requests for port 5900 to 192.168.0.101:5900 evets ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
Arthur Simpatico wrote: Dragos, I have used Dlink and Linksys wireless routers without any problems for years with VNC over the wireless connection. It must be something in your setup. More specifically, right now I am using a Linksys WRT54G with no issues. Regards, Arthur I've stopped 83,729 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=f9r9z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dragos Maciuca Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:22 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number I'll reply to this message as a way of getting back on my soap box. I have yet to find one retail router that can be used with VNC over the wireless connection. I don't know what they are missing, but it's not the port forwarding part as I have another device that needs port forwarding and it works fine over wireless. As James found out, they work fine over wired connections. So, if someone knows of a retail router that can be used with VNC over the wireless connection, please let us know. Dragos I have no problem coneting to my VNC inside my firewall ;-) [even when I have two firewalls in-line] I can connect to three machines inside 2 of windows XP Pro; Linux, The problem I do have is connecting to my wireless laptop althoug I can connect to it when it is hardwired I can conect OUT with the wireless just not in Using DYNDNS.org I can get clients to call me; I can call myself when I am off-site D-Link 804v Router Virtual Server Settings RULEinside IP 03. 192.168.8.100 5903 ~ 5903- Linux Mandrake 10.1 RealVNC 4.1 03. 192.168.8.100 88 ~ 88- Linux Mandrake 10.1 WebServer 03. 192.168.8.100 22 ~ 22- Linux Mandrake 10.1 04. 192.168.8.102 5907 ~ 5907- XPPro Server VNC 4.1.1 05. 192.168.8.101 5905 ~ 5905- Laptop Server [display Zero] 06. 192.168.8.101 5500 ~ 5500 - Listening Viewer 07. 192.168.8.101 5708 ~ 5708 - Laptop UserMode Steve 08. 192.168.8.1015500 ~ 5500 - Laptop UserMode Dale 09. 192.168.8.101 5805 ~ 5805 - Laptop Java [display Zero]__ I too have used VNC Over wireless but it _ONLY_ works when I am initiating the connection NOT when I use the server portion _or_ the lisenting viewer. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
Arthur Simpatico wrote: I agree. I have about a dozen ports forwarded to my laptop over the wireless connection. I would've returned my router ages ago if I couldn't use torrent or play games on it. Unfortunately, I think it's just that many of the people complaining here don't truly understand NAT and IP routing or more specifically, internal vs. public IP addressing and how port forwarding affects things. I've stopped 83,729 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=f9r9z -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:57 AM To: 'evets dranem'; 'Arthur Simpatico'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: RealVNC questions about ports and display number I too have used VNC Over wireless but it _ONLY_ works when I am initiating the connection NOT when I use the server portion _or_ the lisenting viewer. In that case, you should contact your router manufacturer for support or a replacement, since there is clearly something wrong with it if it can't handle port forwarding to PCs attached via its wireless interface. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. ___ Thanks for a great remote control software. I use it Daily for my own use and for supporting my clients; and supporting my family members I can do torrents over wireless [multi GigaBytes] I _know_ how to setup freaking forward rules on routers and most everything else with wireless. I cannot do realvnc wireless serving regardless of the router and even direct connections I _have tried_ most everything _and_ in _many_Many-MANY- different configurations I _KNOW_ that with my hardware that vncserver WON'T answer with wireless. I can do viewer; wired and wireless. I don't give a shit ; as I found a freaking work around I was at my father's and _could_not_ get the two wireless laptops talking to each other when both were using wireless. As soon as I made _either_ one the wired server BOOOM it freaking worked; SO Great; No Problem I don't care; I know these limitations with these hardware and this software. piece of cake. Thanks for all your assistance evets ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Keeping the client's IP address visible for a longer time
John Lynes wrote: I've used this product for many years, and I must say that it has been a great tool. The only issue is keeping the IP address visible for a longer period of time. I normally have the person roll their mouse over the VNC icon in the systray, they read the IP, and I connect to them for troubleshooting. The IP goes away in roughly five seconds, and will not come back. Any thoughts about this? Thanks... ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Have them go to http://whatismyip.com http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/getip.html for the Internet facing number many others to choose from ;-0 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number
I was able to get incoming vnc over wireless working ONCE yesterday When I went to confirm the setup I was out of luck [I had changed t of course ] It appears to be a windows issue when I have Wired AND Wireless I will keep investigating because I saw a glimmer of hope yesterday evets James Weatherall wrote: Dragos, VNC doesn't have any subtle requirements of routers. It simply requires that they work as per the relevant specifications (IEEE802.11, Ethernet, IP, etc). The error that you described in your previous mail, doesn't sound at all like the sort of thing you'll get from a broken router, but like a simple misconfiguration issue. It's either the case that you're attempting to connect to a non-existent IP address, or to a system that has a firewall preventing incoming connections to VNC Server, or to a router that has the wrong port forwarding configured for the VNC ports. As a simple test, can you connect to your VNC server computer using its LAN address from another computer connected to the router? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: Dragos Maciuca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 November 2005 03:41 To: James Weatherall Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number James, I'm willing to buy your last conjecture. I know how to do port forwarding properly and my other gizmo works fine with port forwarding over wireless. I assume VNC has some other subtle requirement which the damn router does not implement. I didn't mean to complain about the VNC, I just meant to complain about the retail routers and maybe find out about at least one model that works. Thanks a lot! Dragos On 11/4/05, James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dragos, Error 10060 means that the computer using the IP address to which you are attempting to connect did not respond at all. This is nothing to do with VNC, but indicates that you are using the wrong IP address, the IP address isn't reachable, you don't have port forwarding set up in your router correctly, or your port forwarding configuration is forwarding the connection attempt to a non-existent IP address on your LAN. It's also possible, if you're seeing this when testing from within the same LAN, that you have one of the many brands of broken routers that don't do port forwarding correctly when traffic is sent to their external address from within the LAN. To reiterate the main point - this is *not* related to VNC, it's a configuration issue with your router. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: Dragos Maciuca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 November 2005 06:53 To: James Weatherall Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number Hi James! Let's say a computer is behind a retail router and everything (port forwarding, connections, etc.) is setup properly, I can connect to is just fine if that computer is connect via a Cat5 to the router. If, however, that same computer is connected via 802.11 to the router then you can't connecto to it via VNC. I get the 10060 error. I've managed to repeat this with several setups and several routers (mostly Negear and one Linksys). As I mentioned before, I know that port forwarding works because I have another gizmo that needs port forwarding over 802.11 and it works fine. So I honestly don't know what's going on. Let me know if you want more details. Cheers! Dragos On 11/3/05, James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dragos, Can you explain what you mean when you say that your router doesn't work with VNC? What is the problem you are seeing? Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dragos Maciuca Sent: 03 November 2005 14:22 To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: RealVNC questions about ports and display number I'll reply to this message as a way of getting back on my soap box. I have yet to find one retail router that can be used with VNC over the wireless connection. I don't know what they are missing, but it's not the port forwarding part as I have another device that needs port forwarding and it works fine over wireless. As James found out, they work fine over wired connections. So, if someone knows of a retail router that can be used with VNC over the wireless connection, please let us know. Dragos I have no problem coneting to my VNC inside my firewall ;-) [even when I have two firewalls in-line] I can connect to three machines inside 2 of windows XP Pro; Linux, The problem I do have is connecting to my wireless laptop althoug I can connect to it when it is hardwired I can conect OUT with the wireless just not in Using DYNDNS.org I can get clients to call me; I can call myself when I am off-site D-Link 804v Router Virtual Server Settings RULE inside
Re: firewall setup for different locations
you need to BUG zone alarm about them offering a zone that checks dynaic dns ip names/addressses in realtime instead of only at the time you add that name to the list I need the same thing but I don't think they care about us FRRE verion users ;-) Howard Mintzer wrote: I use zoneAlarm as a firewall. When I use my laptop at any of my offices I have different ip addresses (the router's external address) which I've configured zonealarm to put in their trusted zone. My worry is that when I'm away, say using my laptop in a hotel with wifi. How can I access my work or home computer then since i won't know the ip of thier router in advance and zonealarm will automatically reject it? Thanks Howie ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: does vnc allow multiple connections at the same time?
Matt Westfall wrote: Does anybody read documentation before they ask questions? Kevin Harrison wrote: I was playing around with the free software and i noticed that two simultaneous connections can not be made. Do the personal or professional versions allow more than one client to connect to the server at once? ___ VNC-List mailing list Kevin, All versions allow more than one connection. just click the appropriate checkbox for the server ensure the client doesn't overide that setting Matt; That's the way it usually works. No one RTFM or use the helpfile - at least on this product it 'appears' to be quicker to ask on a support mailing list which usually ends up pissing off people providing support ;-) __ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: 1Quick vnc question
TD wrote: Greetings: I was interested in purchasing the personal VNC edition for a simple home application. My objective is to: -Control two Windows peer-to-peer personal pc's performing basic file sharing and printer functions with one monitor, keyboard and mouse. -achieve this objective without the need for yet-another-piece of interface hardware with boxes, wires, blinking/flashing lights, giant a/c adapters and so on, ie., without the need for a KVM switch. Is the VNC software appropriate for this task? Thanks for any feedback. Tom D. ___ VNC-List mailing list YES! Excellent; just note sometimes I setup a Server _AND_ USER especially on XP with fast usermode the first user logged in gets 'Console' so if two users are logged in the MAIN screen can't be viewed and it will appear to keep knocking you off the computer from the login screen ;-) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: CTRL+ALT+Delete
Travis Forghani wrote: Hello, When I connect to a computer that is at the CTRL+ALT+Delete screen and try to get the User name and password screen by pressing CTRL+ALT+Delete, I get my computers Windows Security window (has the Task Manager button on it). I'm running XP Pro on my computer and the computer I am attempting to connect to has 2000 on it. How can I stop this from happening? You can't stop it from happening. But if you use Function Key F8 it will give you a menu of choices including Send Ctl-Alt-Delete ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: 4.1.1 Hacked
John Aldrich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:04 PM: One of my servers which had 4.1.1 was hacked, when you try and connect with a VNC client you get: a message telling you not an RFB server. If you telnet into port 5900 you get a nice Haxed message. Anyway all fine I have changed ports and installed 4.2, and blocked VNC to this server to only trusted IP's, however I would like to find out the dll or exe that is still on the server, does anyone know how I can see what is bound to port 5900, or know what the file is so I can squish the bug. Ad-Aware and SpyBot SD are your friends. AdAware is a free download from http://www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot is from http://www.safer-networking.org ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list No that is not sufficient SysInternals regmon Filemon will probably be required and yu'll need to compare againt a known clean machine with vnc 43 installed listdlls handel will help 2 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Request - Connection logging
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you find this windowns application log? Glenda Harris From: Alex Pelts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/01 Tue AM 11:39:59 EDT To: Jimmy [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Request - Connection logging There is logging already. VNC server logs in to windows application log. Regards, Alex Jimmy wrote: Hello! Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and anything else useful into a .txt file. Thanks in advance! Jimmy. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ControlPanel Administrative Tools EventViewer Application Log ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Using VNC RemoteDesktop simulatneously
You could try the Shared Connection in Options. It will allow two [or more] viewers to connect to the same session. [you may want to remove the check for Non-Shared connection replace shared] but if you want 1 session to be not shared leave it checked and the client viewer can be configured as shared or not to allow more than 1 viewer or not. RDP VNC is an either or [single remote session at a time thing] KK wrote: Dear All I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are interconnected over internet. Two system X Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible with VNC to the system A which in N2. System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature is enabled. System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user has connected to the session) and vice versa. If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's perfectly alright. Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC RemoteDesktop feature? What are the changes I need to do so that both can work simultaneously? Thanks in advance. Krishna Rao K Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy Industrial Estate | Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: error 10061
10.x.x.x is a private IP and works from inside; Public IP arriving from outside does not make it in. I would check for Port forwarding at the Internet gateway since it appears that request is being dropped and not forwarded to the remote computer or maybe connections tab has numbers in the allowed list normally t is a single line with a + sign meaning all can connect If there are more than 1 machine you could forward 5900 to PC0; 5901 to PC1 etc at the firewall. using the virtual servers a NAT or Port forward rule something like incoming TCP Session port 5900 forward to 10.20.7.1 port 5900 incoming TCP Session port 5902 forward to 10.20.7.17 port 5900 or configure each client to listen on their own ports like incoming TCP Session port 5904 forward to 10.20.7.11 port 4 and address it vncviewer pu.bl.ic.ip:5904 to hit inside 10.20.7.11:5904 and address it vncviewer pu.bl.ic.ip:5902 to hit inside 10.20.7.17:5900 Connections tab -- accept connections on port #5900 default Matthieu Fleury wrote: Hello, As many other people apparently, i have the 10061 problem. But I tried everything, and get no result. I'm using version 4.1.2, on both viewer and server side. The symptoms are When I try to connect internally (using the private 10.20.7.1 address of the server), I can connect, no problem. When I try to connect (still using a computer on the network), by typing the public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the connection refused (10061) error. When I try to connect from a distant computer, by typing the public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the connection refused (10061) error. When I try to connect to the server, from the server, using it's public ip address, same error. I can connect to other servers I got, that runs realvnc (on another network), with exactly the same settings than this faulty server. I've read on the net everything I could find to solve the problem, and I checked the following points : - My firewall is disabled, all ports are opened. I also tried to put the server on DMZ. - I went on the page http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/nettest.cgi, and get a perfect result : The IP address requesting this web page is 202.3.xxx.xxx Connecting to port 5900 ... succeeded. Waiting for server to send version string... Found a server supporting protocol version 3.8. - I am using the default settings, port 5900 and 5800 So now, I am short on any new idea to solve my problem. Can anyone help me ? Thanks a lot, any help will be highly appreciated, I'm stucked, and really need to make this thing work. Regards Matthieu ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem
From a SSH Session I tried to start x0rfbserver and it told me I couldn't so I checked the variables in the X sesion with evets: set and saw DISPLAY=:0 When I checked the SSH Session there was no DISPLAY So I typed export DISPLAY=:0 then x0rfbserver SURPRSINGLY IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM of course this was mandrake linux and the same user held the session credentials so if my user owns the main Xsession I can take it over EXCEPT that x0rfbserver needs to be configured ONCE from the main display 8-) although if I can put an ~/.x0rfbserver file that is setup I'm in ;-) Shashi Kanth Durgavajjhala wrote: Hi, I use VNC 4.2.6 for accessing Solaris 8 server from Windows XP pc. my vnc started automatically on display 4 (X:4) and so I use the same to connect from client (ip address:4). It opens up the window but its not the actual screen that is open on the console (server) as it seems to open a virtual desktop. Ques 1) How do I get to control the console screen as it is remotely from my client vnc? Ques 2) When I try to launch the Solaris management console from vnc client it shows the initial splash window of the management console but does not actually show the management console window or may be it does not even start? Appreciate help in this regard. Thanks, Shashi Kanth ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: saving config
Jeff Glaspie wrote: Thanks for the input about the connection behind a router. I have it up and running. I have one other question though and then I should be set. -- Since I am using IPs and ports I want to save the configurations. I tried the options button on the interface and then save, but when I double click on the saved link (icon) it errors out. I then start VNC from the general VNC interface and it works. I think that I have tried out every possible way except for the one that actually works. Can someone give me clue what I am not doing wrong? Thanks, Jeff ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list We would need to know what the error message says 8-) Does the created file icon look like VNC? ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies
maybe you could try yum libstdc++ More than a little secure .. You need to find out from someone at fedora if they fixed the 411 rremote access bug; which is ENTIRELY NASTY IF EXPLOITED [the bad guys will own your machine(s)] then you won't have to update but... Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: Is this supposed to fix my issue, or just ensure that if I do get it working, I'll be a little more secure? I'm running fedora 5 where you install with 'yum install vncserver', now that I downloaded this new one and ran './vncinstall /usr/local/bin', I'm getting: Xvnc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' xrdb: Connection refused xrdb: Can't open display 'user.domian.com:1' xmodmap: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' Why would I be getting this issue now? -Original Message- From: evets dranem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:39 AM To: Robert Van Overmeiren Subject: Re: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: Does this warning provide a clue about my problem? How can I troubleshoot this VNC connection problem systematically? What other logs should I look at other than what's in /home/username/.vnc/ on the VNC server box. Best regards, Robert Van Overmeiren Software Engineer ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list please update to 4.1.2; [or ensure that the 4.1.1 has it fixedin the source] 4.1.1 has a nasty security bug where a maliious client can cause a connection with no password to be required. [client over rides server] front page of www.realvnc.com has link to may 12 or march 12 fix download at top ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Problems during install on WindowsXp (MoveFile failed; code 5)
Matthias Lach wrote: Hello, I try to install vnc-4_1_2-x86_win32.exe (739240 byte) und 2 Windows Xp PCs. On one i had no problmes and there i like the server to run as service.( Server seems running ). And the other pc, my work-pc, returns a error message: (http://www.lach.de/pics/vnc4error.jpg) C:\programme\realvnc\vnc4\vnccongig.exe An error occured while trying to rename a file in the destination directory: MoveFile failed; code 5 Zugriff verweigert Click retry Iam user with Admin rights. I disabled firewall during the install. I searched for this, but cant find any hint. May anyone of you maybe help me? Thank You. -- Mit freundlichen Gr|_en Matthias Lach, Gummersbach ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list That is the error I had until I disabled the Antivirus Software While I installed the software I had to disable the AV Kaspersky was stopping the proper installation evets-steve dranem-menard ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Non Technical User Needs Help
Harold Fuchs wrote: A friend of mine is a complete novice with computers. She runs Windows XP Home and has a broadband connection. Her ISP assigns her a (possibly) different IP address every time she connects. I run XP Pro/SP2, have a broadband connection and my ISP has assigned me a *fixed* IP address (yes, really). I'm comfortable installing and configuring software. Can she and I each run some VNC-based software so that when we are both running it we can do the following: 1. I can see her desktop 2. I can see her mouse movements, selections and what happens when she clicks on something - left, right, double click 3. I can take control of her mouse in such a way that she can see what I do 4. I can enter data from my keyboard into her computer I'm happy to run a server of some sort so that she connects to me or I'm happy to ask her to run a server. Asking her what her current IP address is might be a bit beyond her (sorry, that's not intended to be condescending). Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* simple for her to install. Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? Harold Fuchs London, England ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list I think it is as easy as: start your VNCListeningViewer port forward your port 5500 to your pc [if behind router] adjust [open] your software firewall to allow port 5500 get her to right click her vnc icon and ADDCLIENT and put your IP address in the dialog and bingo ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Newbie needs help, missing vnchooks.dll
Erica Cathers wrote: We've been having an error message pop up when the computer boots up, about WinVNC.exe not being able to locate a dll, specifically VNCHooks.dll. It looks like we have both WinVNC v.3.3.3 and RealVNC free edition 4.1.1 installed. The RealVNC 4.1.1 is the one that starts on its own at boot up, and looks like the newer software. Is there any reason to have both? Is the missing dll message coming from the old version, which maybe could just be uninstalled? FYI--The computer is running Windows 2000. EC ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list I just troubleshooted a situation where the antivirus software was set to find malware as well as viruses It would not allow the proper installation of VNC while AV was protecting the PC It also had to be entered into an allowed software list for: the AV software the Operating system firewall the third party firewall the port forward router evets-steve dranem-menard ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: More than one user logged in Windows Server 2003
Ir. Bernardino wrote: Good Night Users! I am writing with one question. I am a new user in VNC (server and viewer). I have a network builted with a Windows Server 2003 Machine and 8 more pcs, with Windows (XP and 98) and Linux Ubuntu. I was wondering to use the same tecnology of Remote Desktop from Microsoft with VNC. But it is just possible between Microsoft (Windows). My question is: is there a way to connect diferent users logged with diferent accounts in a server throught VNC? When I try to conect, the first one can log the user prefered. But the second one (and others) will ger the same user, with the same pointer, and the same actions that the first will do. I would like to give a free section of windows to each one connected. And I am wondering to do this with VNC, that is supported by Linux and Windows. Waiting for help, thanks from Brazil Bernardino ___ Yahoo! Acesso Gratis - Internet rapida e gratis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list only 1 use can connect at a time I setup usermode vncserver in case 1 user logs in and the fast usermode is used and i cant' get to the oter sessions for each user i setup a different port using usermode vnc; ythen autostart it it has helped when 1 user logs in which gets the master display but when a second user logs in the vncviewer gets knocked off and the user is logged out immediately when I use the usermode i can then get in to help troubleshoot ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Disconnect on server end
On a system like this I setup UserMode VNC Then the user who is admin [ 1st user logged in ] gets the main display I run usermode on different ports and they get their own display you can log in as second user :-0 without knocking em off steve Jeff Glaspie wrote: I have a machine that I connect to that is used as a desktop. If someone is on that machine and I try to log in, it either logs them off (Windows) or disconnects me. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I have another machine in the same network as my trouble machine with the exact same settings but doesn't do the same thing. That is want is throwing me for a loop Thanks, Jeff ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC 4.1.2 does not work with MacOS 10.4.8
Freddy Jensen wrote: I discovered that a RealVNC 4.1.2 client on WinXP cannot connect to a VNC server running on a MacOS 10.4.8. Initially it connects, and it takes forever to draw the first screen (like 15 secs). When the screen is finished drawing then the VNC client disconnects with a message saying: unknown message type I tried downgrading my client to RealVNC 4.1.1, and then it worked. However, the performance is really bad. It is unusable. Then I tried the latest UltraVNC, and it worked much better. It is still slow,... actually so slow that you can't really do any serious work with the setup, but at least I can connect to the Mac. Now my question is: Should I give up completely on using VNC to control my Mac remotely? It is really a shame that RealVNC 4.1.2 doesn't work at all and that RealVNC 4.1.1 only works marginally. Also, I think it would be a good idea for the RealVNC developers to find out why UltraVNC is so much faster than RealVNC for this setup. I would like to stay loyal to RealVNC and use it for all my remote access needs, but in this case I simply can't use it for controlling my Mac. In general, the only RealVNC setup that I use that is superior in performance is when I use a RealVNC 4.1.2 client on a WinXP to connect to a RealVNC 4.1.2 server running (in memory) on my Linux machine. In that scenario the performance is outstanding (over a 2mbps DSL line). I realize that the main reason for this is that the VNC server does not need to drive any display. It only reacts to redraw requests from the client. In both of the two other scenarios where the RealVNC server runs on either a WinXP or a Mac and I connect to them via a WinXP VNC client, then the servers have to drive the local screen on the machine in addition to responding to redraw requests from the remote client. This is the main reason that those two scenarios are not usable at all for doing real work. It is a shame,... It would be really nice if RealVNC could be improved in such a way that for both the WinXP VNC server and for the MacOS VNC server it would log out the local user when a remote client connects (just like the WinXP remote desktop does). Then the VNC server would only have to respond to redraw requests from the remote client and would not have to spend CPU cycles on driving the local screen. I don't understand why this is not possible. Is it because the two OS'es do not provide the necessary hooks for logging out the local user and driving the local screen in memory? If that's the case, then perhaps the RealVNC developer community might consider asking the two vendors (MSSoft and Apple) to provide those hooks. Could we get some feedback from the RealVNC developers on these issues? Thanks -- Freddy Jensen, Sr. Computer Scientist, Adobe Systems Incorporated 345 Park Avenue, San Jose, CA 95110-2704, USA, Ph: (408) 536-2869 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], URL: http://www.adobe.com -- ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list What version of RealVNC did you install on Mac OSX? Apple DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY VERION OF RealVNC Apple has there OWN PROPRIETARY remote control software ;-) it just happens to claim it is a vnc software ;-P RealVNC Has a BETA version of MacOSX RealVNC It sounds like you are connecting to the Apple Remote comtrol software this is NOT a realVNC problem it is an APPLE F*KUP your message was not very nice to these fine VNC supplies email list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC 4.1.2 does not work with MacOS 10.4.8
i have to reply to this type of rant I am NOT Affiliated in anyway with RealVNC I have used it since before it was released from AtT Labs I have used it with OS 9; OSX ; Linux; Windows; SCO and a few PDAs I DO NOT Speak for anybody but myself I know that when someone attacks a product especially when it is not at fault it speaks poorly of the attacker Freddy Jensen wrote: I discovered that a RealVNC 4.1.2 client on WinXP cannot connect to a VNC server running on a MacOS 10.4.8. or 10.4.6; 10.4x; 10.3 because Apple does not say they have installed REALVNC They only say they have apple remote software which happens to use the same port; why would you assume that it is RealVNC When I want to remotely control a computer I set it up. If I have a Mac I can control it with Apple's remote access Otherwise I need to install software Have you heard of osxvnc? It was available for remote access until you can find the RealVNC for MAC from RealVNC Initially it connects, and it takes forever to draw the first screen (like 15 secs). When the screen is finished drawing then the VNC client disconnects with a message saying: unknown message type An indication something about the MAC that is Non-Compliant with VNC I tried downgrading my client to RealVNC 4.1.1, and then it worked. However, the performance is really bad. It is unusable. Ever consider the problem is a configuration issue? Then I tried the latest UltraVNC, and it worked much better. It is still slow,... actually so slow that you can't really do any serious work with the setup, but at least I can connect to the Mac. Now my question is: Should I give up completely on using VNC to control my Mac remotely? Because RealVNC is not installed on your MAC It is really a shame that RealVNC 4.1.2 doesn't work at all and that RealVNC 4.1.1 only works marginally. RealVNC Works fine But there is NO 4.1.1 for MAC And there is NO 4.1.2 for MAC There IS a 4.2.x BETA for MAC ;-) Also, I think it would be a good idea for the RealVNC developers to find out why UltraVNC is so much faster than RealVNC for this setup. ultraVNC does not support the newer realVNC I would like to stay loyal to RealVNC and use it for all my remote access needs, but in this case I simply can't use it for controlling my Mac. Install RealVNC for MAC; don't Assume Apple has done it for you In general, the only RealVNC setup that I use that is superior in performance is when I use a RealVNC 4.1.2 client on a WinXP to connect to a RealVNC 4.1.2 server running (in memory) on my Linux machine. In that scenario the performance is outstanding (over a 2mbps DSL line). This line speed is more than OK for remotely controlling a computer UNLESS you are trying to [pick your high res screen / hi- bit depth / highly detailed / multi point / mouse action in a program] which may require you to wait for a full screen redraw which may take a couple of seconds then you may want to change the setting to update screen region and under mouse [Option in realvnc prefs];-) I realize that the main reason for this is that the VNC server does not need to drive any display. It only reacts to redraw requests from the client. all remote software needs to drive the display; that's the way computers work; whether remote or local; or whether it is duplicated locally and/or remotely makes no speed difference except the local user may notice a delay between updates as the data transfers over the WAN In both of the two other scenarios where the RealVNC server runs on either a WinXP or a Mac and I connect to them via a WinXP VNC client, then the servers have to drive the local screen on the machine in addition to responding to redraw requests from the remote client. This is the main reason that those two scenarios are not usable at all for doing real work. I _really_ beg to differ; driving both displays does not slow the machine down the amount of data required t odrive a display is the limiting factor what is the size of a screen 1024x768xmillionsofColors? there si NO MYSTERY about the required Data Pipe 1024x768 RGB 256 colors 3x8 = 2.3 MegaBytes 1024x768 Greyscale 8 bits= 768KBytes 1024x768 RGB 32 bits = 4x8 much bigger ;-) 6.9Megs? which hurts in our instant world Now if you are not using an 8 bit display 768kBytes ; which most graphic software would look really poorly at that greyscale resolution; you would be preferring a 24 bit color display 2.3MB or 32 bit Color even Higher 2 mbit high speed internet does not typically trasnmit receive at the same speed so while I may receive a 2 mbit stream; I can only send a 256 Kbit stream on a lot of the worlds DSL lines ever wonder why current video cards have more than eight megs of video ram? and they are pushing 64, 128, 256 MB of Video RAM These Days? do you remember 24 bit nubus video cards in MacIIfx; not even available on the PCs of that time; I have a couple in the back storage room :-) they were
Re: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN
Anti-virus software: mcafee, norton, kaspersky, others will block silently until told other wise Ken Burkhalter wrote: Thanks all for the feedback. The strange thing is that I can ping the server CPU just fine and fully access it from all other CPU's on my LAN (it is the MediaCenter computer with all our music and pictures on it). But for some reason VNC clients can not seem to get there. I did not try opening up other ports yet based on Andy's observation that the Gaming port redirection on the router is for Internet side pass thrus and not LAN side traffic, although I may try just for the heck of it and see what happens. Any further thoughts anyone has would be much appreciated. I have worked on this for days and have become rather stumped (which seldom happens re: computers as I am a retired IT guy). Oh well, it helps to keep one on his toes! Thanks. Ken Burkhalter 734-475-2306 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy and Lenore Etherington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:31 PM To: Bryan Weaver; Doyal McVicker; Ken Burkhalter Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN I did nothing special, simply installed it from the distribution package. set it up on all my computers (one xp home sp2 with all updates, 2 win 98). I access them all from an xp professional sp2 machine. I have had winVNC, real VNC, ultra VNC, and tight VNC servers on my systems, without any issues with connection. I've settled on tight VNC 1.3dev7 as the server, and 1.2.9 for the viewer (for various reasons I can't use the newer viewer). wish I had some magic words for you Andy Etherington -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bryan Weaver Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:18 PM To: Andy and Lenore Etherington; Doyal McVicker; Ken Burkhalter Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN I am having the same problem. My setup is as both you, Doyal Ken describe. I am reluctant to open the ports for the same reasons you mention. I take it that you solved the issue without opening ports on your router. Can you post how you did that? BTW, VNC worked perfectly prior to the installation of some of the Microsoft automatic updates. (I have Windows XP Home with SP2 installed. All updates have been applied.) Bryan Weaver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy and Lenore Etherington Sent: October 21, 2006 16:55 PM To: Doyal McVicker; Ken Burkhalter Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN your setup almost exactly mirrors mine (wrt 54g backbone, 2 computers wireless, one wired), but I don't have any ports open on the router. those settings are for the internet-facing side of the router, and don't affect the internal LAN operation. further, by opening the ports on the router, you're probably exposing your VNC server to the internet, something you probably don't want to do. my setup works fine without open ports, I'd look somewhere else for the answer. Andy Etherington -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doyal McVicker Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:48 PM To: Ken Burkhalter Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN Dear Mr. Burkhalter, I had a similar problem. I found that I had to open the ports in the Linksys router to allow the wireless connections to work. I used the Applications Gamming settings to allow the ports to pass through. I opened port ranges 5900-5903, 5800-5803 and 5500 to 5503. My system now allows connections on the wireless to wired network to work. I also open the firewall to allow all ports connected to VNC to pass. I have yet to encounter any problems with the system. Sincerely, Doyal McVicker - Original Message - From: Ken Burkhalter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Unable to Connect to VNC server from within my LAN I have installed VNC Server on a computer on my wireless LAN. It is at 192.168.1.100. I can ping that machine just fine from other computers on my LAN but can not access the VNC server from any of the other computers located at 192.168.1.102, and 192.168.1.103. All computers are running Windows XP-Home Edition and all are fully up to date with Service Packs. I always get a Timeout Error I have turned the (Standard XP) Firewall Off on the Server computer, but it did not help. The Network topology is: Internet | LinkSys WRT54GX2 Wireless RouterCPU1 CPU2 | VNC Server CPU Where the | connections are hard wired and the are wireless connections. I am attempting to reach the VNC Server from CPU1. I have also set up the
Re: unable to connect to all hosts - connection timed out (10060)]
This is a common issue I see You explained it very well. Antivirus will stop VNC and firewall software will too evets - steve Original Message Hi Evets, You're totally right only not on my end but on the server side (the boss). He installed a new firewall but didn't even tell us and also does not know how to use it. He had a mcafee firewall witch asked for permission and so he gave his server end permission. When we wanted to log on to the server side the firewall stopped us but did not asked the boss if we could get access I asked him to exit his firewall and could logon to the server. at that point I accessed the remote firewall and gave myself access. I don't know how to put this story out to other users so they can benefit from it but maybe you can. thanks and regards -- With kind regards, Eljo A. Morpurgo evets dranem schreef: your question contains the answer either Norton; Ashampoo; XP or some other antivirus or firewall are stopping vnc Eljo Morpurgo wrote: Dear all, I have VNC for a view months and all was running smooth. Now for some reason I get this error. I went thru your help list and found that in most cases this has to do wit a firewall. So to be sure I exit all my firewalls but still the error persists. I run Win XP SP2, Ashampoo Firewall, XP firewall, Cable internet, Norton AV. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Please Help
Doyal McVicker wrote: Gentlemen, I have a problem with VNC Server free addition. 4.1.2. I have been using the program to help computer users, who are elderly or have limited resources, with out charge for my services. The program has worked with out any problem for quite some time. But now it has developed a problem. If I right click on the icon on the task bar by the clock the box only has the disconnect and about marked as usable. Add new client , Options, and close VNC server are grayed out and not working. Using the Start-All Programs-RealVNC-VNC Server 4 (service mode)-Options will not allow changes to the options. I am having this problem on two computers so far. The first is a HP Pavilion A730N running XP Home with SP2 installed The second is a Compaq Presario 061 with XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600) installed. Both have Norton Internet security 2007 installed. I attempted a full reload of VNC on the HP Pavilion but it appears that it picked up a config file from a location that I do not know. Can any one point me in the right direction to solve this problem Sincerely, Doyal McVicker ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list I have this occuring on a couple of machines I have that are locked down ectremely tight with most adminstrative tasks revoked even on admin sessions. Just a hint ;-)\ ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Connection refused 10061 - XP to Win95
Mark Evans wrote: Hi, I am trying to use RealVNC to connect from my usual XP PC to a 'remote' Win95 machine downstairs, but keep getting the Connection Refused message. The set-up is as follows: LinkSys BESFR81 gateway, connected to internet, local IP 192.168.1.1. -- Win95 PC is connected to this, and has a static IP of 192.168.1.111 LinkSys WRT54GC router, connected to BESFR81, local IP 192.168.1.2. -- WinXP PC is connected to this, and has a DHCP IP - usually 192.168.1.101. I can browse either machine's Shared Documents folder from the other PC via My Network Places. To try and solve the problem, I have also set up port forwarding on both routers to enable port 5900 to be forwarded to the Win95 PC, but this has not helped. Any help and suggestions cheerfully received! Thanks, Mark ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Do you have winsock installed? Windows file sharing does not require that ;-) it also could sound like a routing issue so further network information is required ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC timeout connection
with the free version you cannot have the same port for the viewer webviewer try personal 30 day trial ;-) Matthew Thomson wrote: I installed RealVNC Webviewer Port 80 And VNC Port 80 (because in Company only Port 80 is allowed ...) From Notebook I can connect to the PC But from company after I enter connect (screen before login mask) (where you can choose encryption too) I get an error ... Timeout ... :-( In the vnc log there is: Tue Feb 20 18:18:53 2007 EventSocket: accepting incoming connection TcpFilter: ACCEPT (external IP) EventSocket: addSocket 00AEFF28 HTTPServer: accepted: (external IP)::40706 HTTPServer: GET /favicon.ico for 193.187.198.122::40706 HTTPServer: HTTP error: 404 EventSocket: remSocket 00AEFF28 HTTPServer: closed: (external IP)::40706 If leave Webviewer Port 80 and VNC Port 5900 I get an java error for Port 5900 not reachable ... CConn: connecting to host XXX port 5900 network: Verbindung von socket://XXX:5900 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.init(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.init(Unknown Source) at vncviewer.CConn.init(CConn.java:132) at vncviewer.VNCViewer.run(VNCViewer.java:162) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) How can the problem be solved? Is the connection in the company to slow in connecting? Can I increase this timeout? ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: STUMPED - can connect via LAN but not via Internet
Chris Swain wrote: Dear VNC List, I'm writing with a question I've seen several people post on VNC message boards but I've never seen resolved. Here's the problem: I can successfully access my Desktop PC via VNC when I connect from within my LAN (e.g. connecting via an internal IP address - 192.168.1.104 works). However I cannot access my Desktop PC when I try to connect from outside the LAN (e.g. connecting via an external IP address -71.105.67.xxx returns a Failed to connect to server message). Here are some details about my configuration: 1.my ISP, Verizon, does not block VNC traffic. I've called their tech support multiple times to confirm this and run tests. 2.My modem/router is an ActionTec GT704-WG, version 3. I've talked to their tech support multiple times as well to confirm that VNC should work and to run tests. 3.Port forwarding is working properly on the router. This is confirmed when I connect via an internal IP address 4.Turning off the Windows firewall does not fix the problem 5.I am running Windows XP Media Center Edition Version 2002, Service Pack 2 on the Desktop PC 6.Desktop PC has a static internal IP address 7.Remote access is enabled on the router 8.NETSTAT -AN shows that VNC ports (5800 and 5900) are listening properly 9.This problem disappeared a week ago meaning I could access via an external IP address for a few days but then the problem returned (!?). 10. Before installing the ActionTec modem router I had the same problem with a Westell 6100 modem and Belkin router. Before the Westell 6100 I had an old Westell DSL modem that allowed VNC traffic fine. Any thoughts you may have would be most appreciated. Signed, Chris Stumped and Shut Out Swain Chris Swain Asst. Professor Co-Director, EA Game Innovation Lab Interactive Media Division USC School of Cinematic Arts http://interactive.usc.edu/research/games ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list you have an error in logic quote 3.Port forwarding is working properly on the router. This is confirmed when I connect via an internal IP address /quote the port forwarding typically does not work from inside to inside from outside you would point realvncviewer at publicip for the default port of 5900 or you could setup a vncviewer pointing to publicip:57900 and have the router do when public port = 57900 forward to insideip port 5900 to frustrate the scanning idiots on the router firewall you will need to make a rule that says if you see traffic going to port xxx forward it to insideip:yyy for example if the firewall sees publicip:5900 forward it to insideip:5900 71.105.69.224:5900 - 192.168.0.100:5900 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Any change in user kills session
Phil Smith III wrote: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just discovered that a machine to which I had set up VNC access and then upgraded now kicks me out as if sharing is not allowed. Both client and server are the same version (the most recent free version) of real VNC. The server is set up as a server and is set to share all as is the client. What am I missing? Is this XP with Fast User Switching enabled? If so, and the user you're talking about isn't on session 0 (or is it session 1?), then this behavior makes sense. ...phsiii ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list when that happens I set up usermode vnc for each user on startup who can login to a different port for each user so more than one can login at a time since main first user gets display0 but subsequent users don't and whenm I connect I bump them off ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: STUMPED - can connect via LAN but not via Internet
That sounds like a MTU issue New Router: Actiontec GT704-WGv2 Current problem: VNC internally works fine. Right now, accessing from the WAN, I can get a password prompt from VNC, it accepts my password, then the screen goes black as it's 'loading' but never completes. It eventually times out and disconnects. So I know I am close but don't have *everything* quite right. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: STUMPED - can connect via LAN but not via Internet
speedguide.net tcpanalyzertcpoptimzer broadbandreports.com tools drtcp also you may want to change the rate limit the mouse setting Bruce Sellnow wrote: Okay thanks, but how do I address the MTU problem? I've even tried connecting at MODEM [19-128Kbit/s]-64 Colors with exactly the same result. I get connected, the password is accepted, but I get stuck on Please wait - Initial screen loading... ~~~ Bruce Sellnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evets dranem Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:43 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: STUMPED - can connect via LAN but not via Internet That sounds like a MTU issue New Router: Actiontec GT704-WGv2 Current problem: VNC internally works fine. Right now, accessing from the WAN, I can get a password prompt from VNC, it accepts my password, then the screen goes black as it's 'loading' but never completes. It eventually times out and disconnects. So I know I am close but don't have *everything* quite right. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: vnc connection to restricted XP accounts
Paul Kaplan wrote: I have realvnc running as a service on XP SP2, and it works fine as long as I try to connect to user accounts that have administrative privileges. When I try to access restricted accounts, my remote connection gets terminated. This is true whether I connect directly or through java. How can I get access to the restricted accounts since these are the ones I'm often needing to troubleshoot remotely. TIA Paul ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list could You setup a usermode vncserver for when another user is logged in and connect to the alternate port for those users; ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: vnc password on many pcs in company network
PK wrote: Hi, I am a member of IT group in my company. We have around 40 pcs in local network. Each computer has vnc free edition latest software. I have an interesting idea about vnc password change for many users. At this time I have to run from pc to pc and change its vnc password. I also have to relog since users dont have access to vnc config. It takes time and its little annoying. So here is my proposal: You should create a master vnc program which can be installed on some server machine. Such program would be able to control all settings on remote machines. I imagine to mark 40 pcs and pick change password to all of them in SINGLE click! I know it would require to change existing vnc programs and build new super vnc server program, but isnt it worth doing? I hope my idea wont be dropped to trash. I will send simmilar mail to ultravnc team and see what happens. I strongly belive this setting can be done and it will help many IT admins to manage their networks better. My best regards, PK Wciel sij w kapitana Jacka Sparrowa i prze?yj niezwyk3e przygody! PIRACI Z KARAIBSW: NA KRAQCU WIATA. Gra komputerowa w sprzeda?y od 25 maja! http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fadv.reklama.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fpiraci.htmlsid=1173 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list all you need to do is export the registry value from one and import it to the others --realvncpassexportr.reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\RealVNC\WinVNC4] Password=hex:ee,dd,aa,bb,cc.ff,cc,ee -- ;-) example only ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: How to set up VNC?
Scott Danielle Gittoes wrote: Is that using Windows Live Messenger? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. Scott Smith Sent: Friday, 1 June 2007 1:02 PM To: Scott Danielle Gittoes Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: How to set up VNC? Scott Danielle Gittoes wrote: Yes, we are both running Windows XP Then I have a suggestion. Rather than trying to open up ports on your mum's router, you should consider signing up both you and your mum for free MSN accounts. Then, using MSN instant messenger, she can simply click on your ID, and request desktop assistance. You will then receive a request, and once accepted, you would view her desktop while chatting. At any time, she can let you take control of her desktop, and you may push and pull files between the two of you as well. This is built in, and requires no configuration, or network changes. The speed and response is also much better. -Original Message- From: B. Scott Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2007 1:14 PM To: Scott Danielle Gittoes Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: How to set up VNC? Danielle, Would you and your mum both be running Windows XP, by any chance? Scott Danielle Gittoes wrote: Hello My mum has just got a new computer and I am trying to teach her how to use it, so thought I would get VNC running so I can see her desktop and show her exactly what to do. We have both installed the free edition of VNC. But I can't connect to her computer as a client Her IP is showing as 192.168.1.2 - which I think is a private IP address? Is this coming from her ADSL modem? How do I find her actual IP address so I can connect to her PC? Thanks Danielle ___ ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list i setupmy firewall to alliow port 550 to my machine i use dynamic ip to name service at dynds.org if I havea dynamic ip which changes i create a batch file to have my clients call me -remotesteve.bat- c:\progra~1\realvn~1\realvnc\winvnc4.exe -connect myip.dnsalias.net ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Web VNC Client Requirements?
client connects to http://se.rv.er.ip:5800/ webrowser connects to 5800 [not port 80] java starts ... java client connects to 5900 transparently server firewall must allow 5800 and 5900 for server side nothing to be done on client side unless restrictive firewall exists client side ;-) can client telnet to serverip 5900 and get a response? L.M. wrote: Hello, Suppose the situation is the following: -- - running VNC server on host A (network A), - running VNC client using an Internet browserL.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the Java Runtime Environment on host B (network B). Problem: --- HOW and WHY host B or its network (network B) could prevent host B from connecting to the VNC server on host A? Which could be the reasons? - Could the Java Runtime Environment be responsible for that? - Could it be because the VNC client on host B uses ports other than port 80 to communicate with the VNC server on host A? (Does the client also uses ports 5800 and 5900?) - In other words, are there any requirements on the client other than having an Internet browser and a Java Runtime Environment available? I am only interested on the client side of the communication (suppose everything is OK on the server side: no firewall, etc.). Please help! Thanks in advance, -- Leon ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC disconnects
Gupta, Pankaj G wrote: Hi, I do work from home and using a VPN connection. When i connect my VNC it hangs/disconnects after sometime, my VPN connection remain as it is and that is not disconnected. I am not sure if system administrators has done anything or i need to something from my side. This used to work a week before. Where can be the problem ? and What possibly has been changed ? Thanks, -Pankaj Successful software always gets changed... ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list you probably need to reduce your MTU down to something like 1300 vpn reduces the network data per packet because of the larger header to transmit the vpn info in the header ethernet 1500 pppoe 1492 wireless ping with different size packets until you find the fragment size which indicates mtu size hope it makes sense google is your friend for this subject google :searchterms: mtu fragment ping ethernet vpn [mix n match to suit] you may want to rate limit your mouse also [vnc setting] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC disconnects
L.M. wrote: Hi, Well, this morning, I tried connecting to a VNC server running on a Windows Vista Station and it disconnected so often that I abandonned. Moreover, the VNC server configuration autho- rized me to take full control of the Vista machine but in reality I couldn't. I know it doesn't help you Pankaj but I took advantage of your intervention to mention my problem which is close to yours... Regards, -- Leon - Original Message - From: Gupta, Pankaj G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: VNC disconnects Hi, I do work from home and using a VPN connection. When i connect my VNC it hangs/disconnects after sometime, my VPN connection remain as it is and that is not disconnected. I am not sure if system administrators has done anything or i need to something from my side. This used to work a week before. Where can be the problem ? and What possibly has been changed ? Thanks, -Pankaj Successful software always gets changed... ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list vista is not well supported with the free realvnc you need to be using a personal or enterprise version for vista. and may require the mirror driver. it also depends if you have some anti virus mcafee, kaspersky, norton, zonealarm may by default block or hamper vnc functionality evets - steve ;-) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Enterprise Edition login problems
Theodore Omtzigt wrote: I am trying to evaluate the Enterprise Edition to see if its GLX capability is sufficient for our application. I installed E4.2 on a Centos 4 box by 'faking' an install. I don't want to overwrite the existing VNCSERVER in case this test yields a negative outcome. Secondly, the system is live so folks are having running vncserver instances that I don't want to take down. I installed an E4.2 client on an old redhat FC box. When I try to log on, the login dialog has a grayed out username but an available password box. Typing the password yields a disconnection dialog with the text: Either the username was not recognized, or the password was incorrect. The password is working on the other vncserver instance, so I have to assume that it is the username recognition that is a problem. Anyone had this problem and knows how to fix it? Theo ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list the inability to set the username makes me think that is not the enterprise viewer ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Lets try this again
Flag Dad wrote: Thank you all for the response. But here is what I am trying to do. A friend said I could dl VNC to connect from my computer to a friends computer via the internet to help them with some problems. I dl-ed VNC but don't know how it works or how to set it up. What needs to be running on which computer for the link up to work via internet? All I know is, when I start the Viewer it ask for a Server. What do I type in that box? And what do I need on my computer and what do they need on their computer? The Server on which computer and Viewer on which computer? Then how do I talk to the other one??? This part of networking is all new to me and trying to learn. Thank you for responding when you do. Steve ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list download realvnc from webpage you only need the viewer software for theperson viewing the other computer although i find it is just as well to install the full software on both systems when you install the vnc software it asks if you want to install the server or viewer or both on one on the screens during the install. the person whose computer you are going to view is the server; it should have a white square with VNC down near the clock in the taskbar check out http://www.whatismyip.com for your ip address; the person or computer server needs to supply you that information so your viewer can connect to the server with the viewer. if there is a router or firewall at the server end; [rules neeed to be adjusted to allow that traffic. port 5800 and 5900 by default need to be forwarded] as an alternative you can turn on vncviewer in listening mode; the server can then right click trhe vnc whitesquare and add new client from the popup menu; they would enter your viewer ip address. [your firewall router would need to forward port 5500] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: web access through the remote machine.
The KEY is VPN Most VPN STOP non-vpn traffic so you can't get out to the net because it ain't through the vpn ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to use the program to do a little remote training. I need to be able to access the remote machine (via a VPN) and have it access the web. I can 'vnc' into the machines with no problem, but I can't get IE or Firefox to connect to the web on the host. Its no problem on a Windows 98 machine but I haven't figured out how to do it in XP. Suggestions are greatly appreciated. ..r ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: accessing VNC on WindowsXP MCE
YOU MUST tell kaspersky to trust winvnc not scan its traffic, allow the connections on the kaspersky firewall if it version 6 or later besides telling xp network connection firewall to allow port traffic as well in case it is active add the sotware to the trusr=ted application list check the port blocking assignments Andrew Meyer wrote: I am having trouble getting VNC to work on Windows XP MCE. Its completely updated. I can access VNC when it s hard wired to the Ethernet, but when I try to access the wireless, it won't work. I have tried disabling the firewall. There is no other firewall on there, just Antivirus (Kasperksy). Please advise. Andrew Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 314-277-3307 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list