Re: [Assp-user] Fake 250 with LDAP

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
want to do this because daily I get hundreds (or more) non-deliverable emails delivered from servers all across the internet to email addresses here that don't exist. As everybody does. That was the reason to have the flat_list and /or ldap. I do not get it, why you cannot use it as we all

Re: [Assp-user] Virus test

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Matti Haack wrote: Hello Fritz, is virus test done for every incomming message? Or is it skipped for whitelisted senders. Fritz mentioned it earlier in another thread, Whitelisted and NoProcessing users are not scanned currently. He is working on adding options to enable/disable

Re: [Assp-user] Date of Arrival 1.2.7

2007-01-10 Thread Marrco
cache problem. Still getting (11) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and

Re: [Assp-user] Date of Arrival 1.2.7

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
pls don't. If it's the biggest update since 1.2.0 don't put it in the open at the end of this week. No problem for me. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll

[Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Esther Schindler
Hi, folks. I'm senior online editor at CIO.com, and I'm working on an article for which I'd very much like your help. There's often a lack of communication between techies and top company management. Maybe they don't want to hear about problems; perhaps you give them technical details that

Re: [Assp-user] Weight per test scoring

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
brougham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] May be Doug will say something, he is the one I believe who uses it (besides me). That what? Uses the PB to block persistent idiot ip addresses? I do too. What feature do you

Re: [Assp-user] Weight per test scoring

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed, however, like I said, that kind of kills the concept of using the PenaltyBox in that case for the actual purpose for which it was intended. How can you say that? My purpose was absolutely to have both functions

Re: [Assp-user] POP and Port 110

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Charles Marcus wrote: I've never used it either, and would not do so, since it is supposedly a security risk (not sure on the whys and hows). Most likely because it could be tricked by IP spoofing known clients.

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Hi Esther, If you would like just a quick blurb, then my response to your question, “If you could get your CIO (or top management) to understand one thing, just ONE thing, about fighting spam, what would it be?“, is simple: I would like top management to understand the mechanics of how email

Re: [Assp-user] Duplicates in notspam directory?

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 4 Jan 2007 at 10:42, Eric B. wrote: From looking at the Received headers, this seems to be exactly what is happening. The first copy has only the ASSP header, the second copy has the original ASSP header followed by the MTA header, followed by the ASSP header again: My mail paths only

Re: [Assp-user] Duplicates in notspam directory?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
It makes sense. Some of your clients are sending mail through ASSP twice: Once from MUA to MTA, and the second is when its outbound to the Internet: MTA to ASSP to MTA/relay. Either have your MUAs use ASSP directly and your MTA delivers directly to the Internet, or your MUAs delivery directly to

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Esther Schindler
Hi, Michael! It's funny -- most of the people who have been answering me feel that the CIO _shouldn't_ have to know the mechanics of how spam works. Several people believe that the CIO's role isn't to mess with the technical details. Instead, the CIO should know about the effects of spam,

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIOunderstood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Michael Silver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Michael! It's funny -- most of the people who have been answering me feel that the CIO _shouldn't_ have to know the mechanics of how spam works. Several people believe that the CIO's role isn't to mess with the technical details. Instead, the CIO should know

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIOunderstood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Esther Schindler
Ah! That helps -- certainly it clarifies the point. warm smile Can you give me a real world example of where that knowledge helped the admin do her job, or where the lack of that understanding made the problem worse? (We all do love to look over each other's shoulders, after all.) On Jan

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I would agree that a CIO shouldn't have to know the mechanics of how spam works - being that I would like to think that I do my job well enough so that my management does not need to know such things. This is one of numerous things that I would stipulate that users should never really need to

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 10 Jan 2007 at 13:23, Ernesto Nieto wrote: When I go look in the maillog file, this is the corresponding log entry: Sender: Invalid HELO Format 'mailgw5.53.com' RE_E_mail_problems_ Now, I'm not up to snuff on the format, but isn't that legit? Is there somewhere else I need to look?

Re: [Assp-user] POP and Port 110

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 10 Jan 2007 at 11:12, Eric B. wrote: Also because your MTA will allow any client from the same IP to connect for a period of time after the IP has checked a POP account. So, if your PC is behind a NAT and checking a public POP machine, any PC behind your NAT box will have access to

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIOunderstood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I think many people can give examples of when a lack of understanding made a problem worse. This happens many times a year for me as managers make decisions to move forward with technologies that aren't adequate or appropriate for the goals they wish to accomplish. This happens when IT is

Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Andreas Krüger
I was trying that, but i dont understand the extreme blocking for the penalty box. Furthers, what is a forged helo? And lastly, what is the RBL cache for? Andreas on 10-01-2007 02:01 Micheal Espinola Jr (mobile) wrote: You could match them to the options listed in the web interface menu.

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jan 2007 at 13:23, Ernesto Nieto wrote: When I go look in the maillog file, this is the corresponding log entry: Sender: Invalid HELO Format 'mailgw5.53.com' RE_E_mail_problems_ Now, I'm not up to snuff on the format, but isn't that legit? Is there

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Andreas Krüger
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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Andreas Krüger wrote: I was trying that, but i dont understand the extreme blocking for the penalty box. If you will look in the Penalty Box configuration options you will note an Extreme Threshold option. When IP addresses reach a PB score matching or exceeding that option the IP is recorded

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Kevin wrote: Domain names must start with a letter and not a number, 53.com is NOT a valid domain name according to the RFCs (rfc1035 to be exact), however these are not followed to the letter all the time and thus we get names like that which violate that rule. I'm not sure but the

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Andreas Krüger wrote: I got spam mails from 53.com... I agree. I get nothing bu spam from them, from multiple IPs within the same /24 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay

Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Furthers, what is a forged helo? An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers. ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against the rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one. Personally I find this blocks more spambots. A forged helo is

Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Fritz Borgstedt wrote: Furthers, what is a forged helo? An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers. ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against the rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one. Personally I find this blocks more

Re: [Assp-user] help a journalist: what do you wish the CIO understood about figh

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
A mailbox without Spam is like a private restroom, with Spam it looks like a public one. It is quality of life, what is here at stake. Fritz Borgstedt - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join

[Assp-user] cc mail

2007-01-10 Thread Pascal Dreissen
Hi All, I have a question about this option: = Prepend Spam Subject to CC-mail If set spamSubject gets prepended to the subject of the CC-email. = Does this option prepend the spamsubject to ccspam AND ccham ? Wouldn't it be logical to do this only for ccspam ? Best regards, Pascal

Re: [Assp-user] cc mail

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Does this option prepend the spamsubject to ccspam AND ccham ? Wouldn't it be logical to do this only for ccspam ? yes, that was a bug. fixed. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 10 Jan 2007 at 12:16, Kevin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jan 2007 at 13:23, Ernesto Nieto wrote: When I go look in the maillog file, this is the corresponding log entry: Sender: Invalid HELO Format 'mailgw5.53.com' RE_E_mail_problems_ Now, I'm not up to snuff on the

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 10 Jan 2007 at 15:49, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Kevin wrote: Domain names must start with a letter and not a number, 53.com is NOT a valid domain name according to the RFCs (rfc1035 to be exact), however these are not followed to the letter all the time and thus we get names like

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Emory
The syntax of a legal Internet host name was specified in RFC-952 [DNS:4]. One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a letter or a digit. Host software MUST support this more liberal syntax. Is

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The default validHeloRE as used by Ernesto obeys this more liberal rule, but the first part of his invalidFormatHeloRE is catching it, which is shown as the default but is not compliant. Remove '\d+[_.-]\d+[_.-]|' or put the name in 'don't block these helos' -

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Dave Emory wrote: The syntax of a legal Internet host name was specified in RFC-952 [DNS:4]. One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a letter or a digit. Host software MUST support this more liberal

[Assp-user] Do you have multiple ASSP installs on same public IP?

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
I'm currently re-working the statistics page/sql queries. I need some way to uniquely identify each ASSP install in order for the stats to be at least somewhat valid, the IP address would be the easiest and quickest way to do this but it would cause inconsistencies if there are multiple

Re: [Assp-user] Do you have multiple ASSP installs on same public IP?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr (mobile)
Maybe each assp install that uses the stats list can register and grab a unique hash that it will always use to identify itself. That way we don't capture ip's, but assp uses a unique hash as an indentifier just for stats uniqueness. That should help maintain anonimity, oi? -- ME2 (mobile)

Re: [Assp-user] Do you have multiple ASSP installs on same public IP?

2007-01-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr (mobile)
PS. Someone tried to unlock the asspsmtp.org domain. We might be due for an attack. -- ME2 (mobile) -Original Message- From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 8:59 pm Subject: [Assp-user] Do you have multiple ASSP installs on same public IP? I'm currently

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Emory
Kevin wrote: Dave Emory wrote: The syntax of a legal Internet host name was specified in RFC-952 [DNS:4]. One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a letter or a digit. Host software MUST support this

Re: [Assp-user] POP and Port 110

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Norman
I wrote both the original merak PopB4SMTP routine and the revamped, 2nd one. I cut my teeth on Perl writing that function! The first one was very poor, but once I figured out the binary format of the file, I wrote the 2nd that takes the length of the IP address and prepends the IP with that

Re: [Assp-user] POP and Port 110

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Norman
I use PopB4SMTP. Wouldn't it stand to reason that even if a client knew what IP to spoof in a packet to cause your server to log the IP need to know a login / pw? And if so, doesn't that make the risk moot? Or, are we talking about something that may hi-jack your pop session via injection or

[Assp-user] URIBL failure question

2007-01-10 Thread Evan
I'm getting a URIBL failure Received-URIBL: fail (onlinebusinessshow.com.multi.surbl.org-127.0.0.16; ) where the domain listed in the logfile as the cause of the failure (which is indeed on a SURBL list), does NOT appear anywhere in the email itself. Is that even possible? This

Re: [Assp-user] URIBL failure question

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Evan wrote: I'm getting a URIBL failure Received-URIBL: fail (onlinebusinessshow.com.multi.surbl.org-127.0.0.16; ) where the domain listed in the logfile as the cause of the failure (which is indeed on a SURBL list), does NOT appear anywhere in the email itself. Is that even

Re: [Assp-user] URIBL failure question

2007-01-10 Thread Evan
Kevin wrote: Open the message in a text editor and check the source. Hi Kevin... I should have said up front, that I did that already. The reported failed URL onlinebusinessshow.com does not appear anywhere in the message source. If anybody wants to look at the source let me know and I'll be

Re: [Assp-user] Do you have multiple ASSP installs on same public IP?

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm currently re-working the statistics page/sql queries. I need some way to uniquely identify each ASSP install in order for the stats to be at least somewhat valid, the IP address would be the easiest and quickest way to do

Re: [Assp-user] POP and Port 110

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
Chris Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote both the original merak PopB4SMTP routine and the revamped, 2nd one. I cut my teeth on Perl writing that function! The first one was very poor, but once I figured out the binary format of the file, I wrote the

Re: [Assp-user] Weight per test scoring

2007-01-10 Thread Eric B.
Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now if I want to just block that one email, and not penalize the entire IP block, I would have to set PenaltyDuration to 0. Then the next email coming from that IP will be processed as normal. However, and here is the

[Assp-user] Log Parser for ASSP?

2007-01-10 Thread M. Waseem Sindhu
Hello, Has someone developed a free log parser for ASSP yet? There is one by Sawmill (http://www.sawmill.net/formats/anti_spam_smtpproxy.html), but that is kind of expensive. Regards, Muhammad Waseem Sindhu - Take

Re: [Assp-user] Invalid HELO format

2007-01-10 Thread paul+as
On 10 Jan 2007 at 17:32, Dave Emory wrote: Is this compliant for the Invalidate the format of HELO regex? ^\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+$|^[^\.]+\.?$ That's fine and the one I use. Stops dotted ip addresses and anything without a dot. paul