Re: Adaptec AHA-2940

1999-08-26 Thread Gareth
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
 I have just tried to install Debian on a machine with an Adaptec AHA 2940 
 SCSI adapter. When I run install from DOS (or boot from the rescue floppy)
the machine hangs after detecting the SCSI adapter.  The last message on
the screen is...  Downloading sequencer  instructions... 419 instructions
downloaded.

Despite all the installation problems people have had with these cards I
succesfully installed Debian on a new PIII from the standard boot disks
and it worked fine. there are now 2 in that system and they are working
great.

You should check the SCSI select settings at boot time just to check they
are ok, especially the termination settings and which cables you have
plugged into it etc. 


Good luck!

---Gareth


Re: module aliases

1999-08-26 Thread Gregory T. Norris
Thanx for everyone's help on this!  As you pointed out, the message
relates to supporting a second sound card, which isn't present on my
system.  So I just need to alias it off.

I appreciate the info!


Re: AWE64 Problems

1999-08-26 Thread Gregory T. Norris
Did you compile sound support directly into the kernel, or as a module.
pnptools needs to initialize the card before the driver kernel grabs it,
which means that you need to compile it as a module.

On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:25:20AM +0100, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
 I have a Creative Labs AWE64 (ISA PnP) card, and I'm having a bit of trouble
 getting it configured in Debian.
 
 I have re-compiled my kernal (2.0.36) to include the appropriate sound
 support, and I have also set up the pnptools (via pnpdump) to initialise the
 card at boot.
 
 The problem seems to be that the initialisation of the card (via PnP) takes
 place after the sound support from the kernal has loaded. What I get at boot
 is the message that sound support is being initialised, but no cards are
 picked up in the kernal drivers. Later on in the boot process, the PnP tools
 initialise the card with no errors.
 
 I would like to hear from anyone who has has experience with getting the
 AWE64 working under Debian as I don't know what to do next - the only other
 option is to boot DOS and load the DOS drivers, then boot Debian.


Re: more RAM = more speed?

1999-08-26 Thread Brad
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Pitts wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:14:06AM -0700, Patrick Olson wrote:
  1.  hdc has been a CD-ROM since the second I booted the Debian install CD. 
  Will anything bad happen if hdc is suddenly a hard disk and hdd is now the
  CD-ROM?  I haven't actually used the CD-ROM since I finished installing,
  so the only possible trouble spot might be booting. 
 Booting won't be a problem, since you aren't moving around hard drives.
 Check /etc/fstab to make sure there is no reference to hdc. Otherwise,
 you are fine.

Check if you have a /dev/cdrom symlink. If so, this will need to be
updated. If not, don't worry about it.


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ftp install base system?

1999-08-26 Thread Mark Wagnon
Is it possible to install the base system via ftp? I'm trying to
install on a system without a CD-ROM drive (and each one I've
tried to install won't work for some reason), and floppies aren't
cutting it. I would think that it would be possible since the
installer is prompted to set up the network before hand.

any ideas? tia
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Re: debian/rules fails to form .deb packages

1999-08-26 Thread Brad
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Johann Spies wrote:

 Previously I used dpkg-source -x source.dsc and debian/rules to create
 .deb packages from files in potato/main/source for my slink system. 
 
 The last few times however it failed and I had to do dpkg-buildpackage to
 get .deb's.  Why would that be?  I was the case with postgresql_6.5, pine,
 cdrecord-1.8a23 and few others.
 
 With cdrecord I got the following error message:
 ---
 dh_movefiles -pmkisofs
 -P/usr/src/cdrecord-1.8a23/debian/build/mkisofs
 # FOrce a symlink so all three binaries use the same manpage.
 dh_link  -pmkisofs
 -P/usr/src/cdrecord-1.8a23/debian/build/mkisofs usr/man/man8/isoinfo.8 \
   usr/man/man8/isodump.8
 make: dh_link: Command not found
 make: *** [mkisofs] Error 127
 --
 
 I have two questions:
 
 1. Why doesn't debian/rules form .deb packages anymore? 

dh_link was added to the debhelper package in version 1.2.9. The current
slink version is only 1.1.24. That might be the problem... Although, i
don't know why dpkg-buildpackage would work in that case.

 2. What can I do to correct the error concerning cdrecord?

Getting the potato version of debhelper might help... Otherwise, i have no
idea.

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Re: Postgresql 6.5 - compiling errors

1999-08-26 Thread Brad
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Johann Spies wrote:

 My effort to create a .deb package from the postresql-source failed with
 the following error message:
 
 dh_perl -p libpgperl
 make: dh_perl: Command not found
 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 127
 
 
 How can I correct that?

This would seem to be the same as the dh_link error in your debian/rules
fails to form .deb packages post. dh_perl wasn't added to debhelper until
version 1.2.79.


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upgrade or not upgrade, that is the question

1999-08-26 Thread Jean-Yves Barbier
Hi all,

I wonder if I'm gonna upgrade my firewall from 2.0.36 to 2.2.10 kernel version.
The helpz in menuconfig seems to say there's a lot of makenode, ipchains instead
of ipfwadm... to do.
But I read somewhere that 2.0.36 has security failures, so do you think I should
upgrade or not?

My net is made of a 486 firewall, 8 MB ram, 125 MB HD (only 55MB taken under
debian!), wich permit acces to cable internet, and a PII/400 station.

JY
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Re: more RAM = more speed?

1999-08-26 Thread Seth R Arnold
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:14:06AM -0700, Patrick Olson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the other info on RAM, it will be very useful.
 
  Add a second hard drive on the second ide channel(hdc) It is good to
  have a swap partition on a different controller channel with each
  partition having equal priority. The kernel will use the partition
  which will provide the best performance.
 
 I don't know much when it comes to drives in Debian, so I have a few
 questions:
 
 1.  hdc has been a CD-ROM since the second I booted the Debian install CD. 
 Will anything bad happen if hdc is suddenly a hard disk and hdd is now the
 CD-ROM?  I haven't actually used the CD-ROM since I finished installing,
 so the only possible trouble spot might be booting. 

The linux kernel itself won't care. What will care is your /etc/fstab file.
You should update this to reflect your cdrom drive in a different place, as
well as the new swap partition. This isn't too hard, maybe the file is easy
to understand, if not, the fstab(5) manpage isn't too bad.. but some of the
options you do have to lookup in the mount(1) (or is it mount(8)?) manpage.

 3.  Since any drive I add will be old and slow (200MB), is it worth it?

Probably. :)

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Re: Collecting mail for other users with fetchmail?

1999-08-26 Thread Jor-el
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Phillip Deackes wrote:

 Jor-el [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Phillip,
  
  Its seems to me that you havent read the manpage. Specifically,
  the sections about the '-m', the '-u', and the user authentication.
 
 It seems to me you didn't read my original query. I did read the
 manpage, -m appears to refer to the mail delivery agent. I use exim as
 an MDA. -u relates to the login name with the IP. As I explained, my
 IP's POP3 server requires that I log in with scgf, my *hostname*. The
 same hostname is used by everyone on my system, hence mail collected
 with this login could belong to anyone.
 
 As it happens, I found the answer in the Linux Gazette - they have an
 excellent article on Setting up Exim for a home network
 (http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue42/stumpel.html
 
 I added this to my ~/.forward file:
 
 if $header_to: contains sah1 
 then deliver sah1
 
 This causes exim to deliver mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 the correct inbox for sah1, ie. /var/spool/mail/sah1
 
 I appreciate your reply, Jorel, but I am somewhat annoyed at your
 implication that I would not bother to read the most obvious manpage. It
 appears that many Linux users are just too quick to point the finger at
 others who they believe have not read the documntation.
 

Phillip,

Please accept my apologies for the unwarranted aspersions. You are
right : I didnt completely understand your question.

Jor-el

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night, but he who is intoxicated by the cupbearer will not recover his
senses until the day of judgement.
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Help! xdm not starting at boot

1999-08-26 Thread STrandahl
I have xdm configured to start when the system boots up.  I changed my X 
configuration and now the system is in a loop trying to start X and failing.  
I am able to boot from my Debian CD, but don't know what to do when I get 
there.

How can I:
1) prevent xdm from trying to run at startup OR
2) get in and edit the X configuration file manually -- ideally, I would like 
to restore the backup XF86Setup created. Unfortunately, I didn't write down 
its location and I don't know where to copy it.


Re: Logitech Mouseman / X

1999-08-26 Thread Eric G . Miller
 I have the same mouse: Something like this ought to work:

Section Pointer
   ProtocolPS/2
   Device  /dev/psaux
   BaudRate1200
   Emulate3Timeout 50
EndSection

Hmm, I don't know what that emulate timeout is doing in there!
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Re: Postgresql 6.5 - compiling errors

1999-08-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:12:43PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

 My effort to create a .deb package from the postresql-source failed with
 the following error message:

 dh_perl -p libpgperl
 make: dh_perl: Command not found
 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 127

You need the potato version of debhelper to build this package (the same
probably also applies to your previous message, I haven't checked).  If
this is a slink package, you should probably file a bugreport although
I'm not sure exactly what the policy is on this.

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Re: apt-get KDE?

1999-08-26 Thread Eric G . Miller
Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty

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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Ryan Chouinard
Kent West wrote:

 Greg Starkes wrote:
 
  Ryan Chouinard wrote:
  
   I always hear people complain about Netscape crashing, but I never had
   that problem, except in Windows. But then, everything crashes in
   Windows. Netscape works fine for me in RH, Slackware, and now Debian.
   What's the deal?
 
  I never had a problem either, until I decided to try kde. Then I would
  have a crash usually once a day. I normally use Window Maker, under
  which netscape runs without a problem. Could this be the cause? KDE does
  set a bunch of x resources for colors and fonts, so maybe it does
  something that netscape doesn't like.
 

 Hmm, that's an interesting thought. I don't run KDE (I run IceWM), but I
 often have Netscape crashes. But I'm running on a 1MB older video card
 and only 32MB RAM and am always getting messages from Netscape about not
 having enough resources (or memory?) to set color pallettes (or somesuch
 -- I just ignore the messages now so I don't remember what they say). So
 it may be that the people having crashes have fewer resources than the
 people not having crashes.

I run Window Maker, and I always have. My dad (who alo uses this machine) uses 
KDE,
due to it's simplicity and user friendly interface. Even he has no problems.
I was just wondering what other people thought of the Netscape problem. I am 
unaware
of any other great browser for Linux, although I don't doubt thier existance.
I also never used Linux on anything less than a K6/233 with 64 megs of ram and 
an S3
ViRGE/DX video card.  I believe you may have struck it with the resource 
problem.
I can't speak (or, in this case type) for anyone else, but I would like some 
input
from other users and thier experience with Netscape on Linux.


--Ryan Chouinard

(I just noticed all my lines start with I.
Heh...)



trouble with fdisk and activate the swap

1999-08-26 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Recenltly, I repartitioned my harddisk. What I did is to delete
the swap parttion(/dev/hda2), created a 2gig linux
partition(/dev/hda2), then created a swap partition(/dev/hda3).


My fdisk output looks like this:

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 8400 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   Start  End   Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/hda1   *1 4063  2047720+  83  Linux native
   /dev/hda2 4064 8127  2048256   83  Linux native
   /dev/hda3 8128 8400   137592   82  Linux swap

   Command (m for help): 

Now, when I do a w command, I get the following:

Syncing disks.
Re-read table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
Reboot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.

WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x
partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional
information.

My first question: why is it happening? Do I have to reboot??

Anyway I did a reboot as suggested. But linux still cannot see the
new swap partitions created, dmesg shows the following:

Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
 Freeing unused kernel memory: 36k freed
 Unable to find swap-space signature
 Unable to find swap-space signature


My second question: How do I activate the swap partition??


Thanks for the help.

Shao.



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Updates

1999-08-26 Thread Ryan Chouinard
Hey
It's me again, but this time with a question.  Debian.org offers
updates on software packages, but are there archives elsewhere with
other packages?
I hear people talk about using apt (Something I, regretably, have yet to
play with) and using different sites and archives. I'd like to tap
into these resources as well...
I'll see what apt can do in a minute, but I just thought I'd see if
I could get some pointers ;-)


--Ryan Chouinard


Re: Adaptec AHA-2940

1999-08-26 Thread John Gay


I had a similar problem with my PII. My solution, though not eloquent, was to
use 2.0 boot, driver and base disks to start the installation. I then had to
upgrade one of the libs before I could then use dselect to install from my 2.1
CD's. dselect will tell you which lib needs updating. You then can copy the
required .deb file to /tmp and use
dpkg -i libxx.xx.deb
to install the new lib. There is probably a better way around this, but this
worked for me. It seems the boot kernel for debian 2.1 is more touchy about SCSI
that the boot kernel for 2.0. I have even compiled new kernels based on 2.2.9
with no other problems with my SCSI hardware.
I'm still new to linux, but I like to offer what help I can to return the
favours of all the people on this and other lists that have helped me get this
far.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: trouble with fdisk and activate the swap

1999-08-26 Thread Andrei Ivanov
 
  Device Boot   Start  End   Blocks   Id  System
  /dev/hda1   *1 4063  2047720+  83  Linux native
  /dev/hda2 4064 8127  2048256   83  Linux native
  /dev/hda3 8128 8400   137592   82  Linux swap

Wrong. You created Swap as a primary partition, but it has to be logical.
(/dev/hda4 it will be)

   Syncing disks.
   Re-read table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
   Reboot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.
   My first question: why is it happening? Do I have to reboot??

This is ok. You have to reboot to update the partition table, but dont
change the fstab file yet (you can, though)
Once you boot it up, do mkswap /dev/hda4
Then swapon

Andrew

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Re: module aliases

1999-08-26 Thread Internet Business


Gregory T. Norris ha escrito:

 Thanx for everyone's help on this!  As you pointed out, the message
 relates to supporting a second sound card, which isn't present on my
 system.  So I just need to alias it off.

 I appreciate the info!

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Re: diald and debian..

1999-08-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:02:02AM +1000, Michael Fox wrote:

 Anyone experienced problems with diald and debian.. is it possible that the
 paranoid stuff ran at system startup and the icmplogd will cause issues with
 diald?

It's working fine for me on my potato+ipv6 router here.  It would be
helpful if you could describe what the problem is.  The only really
big thing that springs to mind is that the diald in slink is not
compatible with kernel 2.2.

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Re: apt-get KDE?

1999-08-26 Thread htaka

I wonder if http://kde.tdyc.com is down now. 

 Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:
 
 deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty
 

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Re: mozilla M8, but compiled for slink

1999-08-26 Thread Peter Ross
On 24-Aug-1999, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi people,
 
 You can find mozilla .debs compiled for glibc2.0 (slink version) here:
 
   http://pandora.debian.org/~joy/slink/
 
 They worked on a mostly-slink system I tried them on.
 
 I guess I should put a recompiled libgtk1.2 and libglib1.2 there, too...
 tell me if anything else is needed.
 
 And sorry for the crosspost.
 
It installed fine for me using slink plus Gnome 1.0 debs from
www.gnome.org.

However pictures render really badly, you can tell what they are but
they are all speckly.  I have managed to determine that it due to the
fact that my xserver runs using 8bit colour.  Does anyone know how to
fix this?

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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Peter Ross
On 24-Aug-1999, Ryan Chouinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I always hear people complain about Netscape crashing, but I never had
 that problem, except in Windows. But then, everything crashes in
 Windows. Netscape works fine for me in RH, Slackware, and now Debian.
 What's the deal?
 
Clicking on a mailto link causes 4.51 to crash for me everytime.

Pete.


Gdm is evil!

1999-08-26 Thread John Haggerty
I have spent the past 5 hours bashing my brains out getting gdm to work on my 
system and it never will!
I try to start it and it just displays a blank screen without the window 
popping 

up. I tried to do as the README.Debian said and to change the symlinksso that 
gdm and xdm are isolated in different runlevels. What I did was just to delete 
S99xdm (the symlink to /etc/init.d/xdm) so that it won't lock the system 
anymore 

however it still will not display anything I have installed all of the 
dependencies however it still hates me!
The binary for the login interface program works but does nothing on it's own. 
I 

assume this is a problem with pam/config files. I looked at /etc/gdm/Init and 
say :0 and Default which together has only a single program called xsetroot and 
some rather cryptic arguments. This appears to be broken or what? Could someone 
please help me?



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Re: backing up IMAP mailboxes

1999-08-26 Thread stick
Daniel Quinlan said
 hi,
Howdy Daniel.

   I need to backup the IMAP mailboxes on one of our clients servers. It has a 
 local DAT drive and i'm familiar with using tar.
 
I have a couple of horror stories related to using tar to save important
data... I now use BRU... as do all of my clients...

   my concern is if the MTA tries to deliver mail whilst tar has an IMAP 
   mailbox locked to back it up what's going to happen?
 
   Would it be acceptable to stop the MTA and the IMAP server for the duration
   of the backup?  surely ISP's wouldn't be doing this.
 
Whether or not it would be acceptable depends on how long the service would be
off-line.  If you could minimize the amount of time needed and choose a time 
with little mail traffic, then it might not matter.  As per what ISP's are
doing... it wouldn't surprise me if some don't even care if the service goes
down while doing the backup.  Some likely don't care if mailboxes get backed
up... may even be legal reasons to let messages expire...

   any thoughts?
 
Here are a couple of thoughts that screetched into my brain whilst reading
your message:

1)  Turn-off the MTA just long enough to make a disk-to-disk copy of the
mailbox.

2)  Put the mailboxes on a partition that's part of a raid and turn off the
raid and copy from the inactive device (if that's even possible).

3)  Have the MTA/IMAPD store two copies of each mailbox and turn off one of
them while backing up... figure out how to re-sync the boxes later...

4)  have the MTA deliver to another MTA, turn-off the second one while doing
the backup/copy, let the first spin retrying the delivery until you're
done.

5)  Replicate the entire mailserver, turn one off and backup from it... same
resync issues as #3...

6)  Figure out a way to use CODA to do the replication/resynchronization...

7)  Use a filter to store a copy of incoming messages in a traditional mbox
format and back it up, use savelog to rotate the copy.

 thanks,

These are TOTALLY off the cuff with absolutely no time/energy/thought spent
on feasibility or actual implementation, but they may shed some light on a
method that would actually work... or not...

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Re: Help! xdm not starting at boot

1999-08-26 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:46:06PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I have xdm configured to start when the system boots up.  I changed my X 
| configuration and now the system is in a loop trying to start X and failing.  
| I am able to boot from my Debian CD, but don't know what to do when I get 
| there.
| 
| How can I:
| 1) prevent xdm from trying to run at startup OR
| 2) get in and edit the X configuration file manually -- ideally, I would like 
| to restore the backup XF86Setup created. Unfortunately, I didn't write down 
| its location and I don't know where to copy it.

After rescue boot: rm /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm
This will keep xdm from starting in the default runlevel 2.

XF86Config lives in /etc/X11. The backup probably has a .bak
extension. If it's there do: mv /etc/X11/XF86Config.bak
/etc/X11/XF86Config .  Then try it out with: startx .

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RE: apt-get KDE?

1999-08-26 Thread B. Szyszka
 I wonder if http://kde.tdyc.com is down now. 
When I did an apt-get update with that added, it wasn't able to
connect to the server. I hope the site will be back up soon because
Gnome has given me problems and is doing the same right now.
I've never had a single problem with KDE.

Does anyone know, though, why none of KDE's FTP sites have
the kde-installer program for the DEB packages while the same
FTP site has it in the RPM package? What am I supposed to do
if the installer isn't available? Anyways, I'm really hoping that
apt-get site for KDE will work so I won't have to deal with this.

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RE: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread B. Szyszka
 I run Window Maker, and I always have. My dad (who alo uses this machine) 
 uses KDE,
 due to it's simplicity and user friendly interface. Even he has no problems.
 I was just wondering what other people thought of the Netscape problem.

I've found several problems with Netscape and all of them are centered around
the fact that Netscape doesn't behave like a regular Linux program. It doesn't
use the global settings from the OS and doesn't offer much customization to
make up for that. It's also much slower than any other program I've used on
Linux. I'm looking forward to the Opera betas for Linux and am hoping to see
improvements in NSN from the Mozilla project.

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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Kent West
Ryan Chouinard wrote:
 
snip -- Netscape crashes, maybe due to insufficient resources

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 Heh...)

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Re: problems with defrag 0.73

1999-08-26 Thread Jonathan H. Wheaton
That's correct.  I've had filesystems for years that never get more than
a few percent fragmentation.  If you *really* want to do this, you need
to copy e2fsck and defrag to a floppy and boot off the rescue disk. When
the installation screen comes up, go to the option to start a shell (or
switch to the second virtual terminal) and mount the floppy under /mnt.
At this point none of your hard disk partitions are mounted so you can
run e2fsck and defrag on them.  Just ctl-alt-del to reboot the system
when you're finished.  I just e2fsck'd all the partitions on a box the
other night using this very method.

Jonathan

On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 01:00:13PM -0600, Cheshire wrote:
 You sure you need to defrag? I forget where the info was drawn from before,
 but anyway, by nature of the e2 file system, it's quite the rarity that it
 needs to be
 defraged--one of those FAT habits I was glad to kick.
 
 |cheshire|
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Larisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 7:13 AM
 Subject: problems with defrag 0.73
 
 
 Hi !
 I ve a little problem with defrag 0.73.
 I tried  to e2defrag  my root partition /dev/hda4 and defrag said: cannot
 work
 on mounted device. Then I 've tried to umount it but my system (debian 2.1
 kernel 2.2.5) said:  device  is busy. I went to runlevel 1 in order to
 singeluse it, but the same game went on. In runlevel 1 the root partition
 /dev/hda4 is read only. I'm not able to unmount it.
 What did I wrong and how to shoot it??
 Thanx IA, for helping me.
 
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Wierd compile error with libpthread.a

1999-08-26 Thread Rupert Brooks
Hi,

Please note to CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I
don't follow this list all that regularly - thanks

I am having problems compiling a c program under Debian-Potato.  I have
traced it this far:  If I compile any C program, and link in the library
/usr/lib/libpthread.a then an executable will be produced, but when
executed will simply lock up.

I have tried doing this with just the helloworld type Cprogram and it
still locks up.  If I don't link that archive, then it works fine.

CTRL-C will interrupt it.  I have tried looking at it with GDB, but I
couldn't figure out what it is doing.  That is not surprising as I am
not very good with gdb.

I have upgraded my libc6, and libc6-dev, and gconv-modules to the latest
versions.

Thanks a million in advance

Rupert Brooks

More details:
The prog that I am trying to compile is a ppp over ethernet prog.  It
acts as a little pipe to connect the usual pppd to the eth0.  I need it
because my ADSL provider (Bell Sympatico) is switching to this method in
a few days.

The source code is a few hundred lines of C.  I will provide it to
anyone who would like to compile it themselves.  Or you can get it from
http://ftp.davin.ottawa.on.ca/linux/sympatico/.  Unfortunately its
totally undocumented and uncommented.  But, if you stick a little printf
early in the program, and then see if it prints when you run it, that
will determine if it is getting past this problem. If someone can
produce a working binary out of it, that would solve my problem, at
least for now.

In the longer term, I'm toying with the idea of adding PPPOE to the PPP
daemon.  This little prog is supposed to be really inefficient.  If
anyone is interested let me know.  I'm a lazy, lazy man and would rather
not have to do it myself.




E! Enlightenment for newbie?

1999-08-26 Thread John Gay


I've been having a look around for general info about X, to get a better feel of
how it all works, and had a look at www.x11.org. They have a comparison of
window managers, and E seems to have more capacity that all the others. Right
now I'm using fvwm95, as it installed directly from the CD, as I'm still to new
to try any configuring yet. I had a good look at E's website, but I take
anything with a grain of salt. I'm interested in trying E, and was just looking
for any experiences, good and bad with E. I was also hoping this would provide a
simpler GUI for my ten year old daughter. There is a link for .debs @
www.debian.org that I was going to try, but I thought I'd get some feedback
first. The basic questions I have are:
1: Most .deb's I've installed went rather well. Sometimes I have to look for
other requirement first. Are there any requirements I should get BEFORE
installing the Enlightenment.deb's?
2: Will E configure as my default WM, or do I have to go and edit something?
3: Is E fairly stable? I know what E says, I'd like some independent opinions.
4: Is the configuration fairly straight forward? I get the impression that there
is a lot of GUI configuring tools for E. Are they easy to find and use?
5: Would this be an easier WM for my daughter? I'd like to provide her with as
much access as possible to encourage her to learn how to explore the PC and make
the most of it.
6: I've looked at KDE and GNOME, but right now GNOME seems a little TOO new for
my liking, and I've heard many complaints that KDE is somewhat bloated. As a
newbie, I'm just not ready to tackle these yet. How would you rate E in relation
to these?
7: At the moment, my daughter's PC is limited to 8 bit colour. Can E be
configured to reduce any problems this causes? Right now, with fvwm95, if I open
one app with lots of colours, than another one, the second complains there are
not enough colours left and the screen keep switching different colours as the
two app's borrow from each other. Is there some way to make the apps use the
same colours?

I've still got lots of other configurations to figure out, but I'm getting
there. Mostly thanks to the great help I get from this and other lists. Thanks
for your time and opinions.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie?

1999-08-26 Thread Seth R Arnold
(I reformatted this to use 76 chars.. if you are in an xterm, I suggest you
check to make sure it is 80 columns wide -- if using netscape or similar,
please make the window smaller. :)

On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:18:39AM +0100, John Gay wrote:
 E's website, but I take anything with a grain of salt. I'm interested in
 trying E, and was just looking for any experiences, good and bad with E. I
 was also hoping this would provide a simpler GUI for my ten year old

I have never gotten E to work -- but that was with other distributions, I
haven't tried debian's E yet. I think it would work much nicer under debian
than the others, else it would never make it into stable. :)

As for ease of use .. it doesn't seem nearly as easy as kwm under kde.
*That* is pretty simple, as well as similar enough to windows so that your
doughter will only feel revolted using windows, not completely clueless. :)

However, kids being what they are these days, I do imagine E will give her
no troubles, and she will probably soon be teaching you how to use it more
efficiently. :)

 these yet. How would you rate E in relation to these?  7: At the moment,
 my daughter's PC is limited to 8 bit colour. Can E be configured to reduce
 any problems this causes? Right now, with fvwm95, if I open one app with
 lots of colours, than another one, the second complains there are not
 enough colours left and the screen keep switching different colours as the
 two app's borrow from each other. Is there some way to make the apps use
 the same colours?

As for the color-depth problem... the window manager does not have any say
in what colors applications can use. E will probably make the situation
WORSE since to look good it requires many colors -- and you haven't athat
many to go around. If it runs high resolution, you can drop the resolution
down to get more colors, or (if your card just won't do it..) get a new
video card. Checking your local .forsale newsgroup might find someone who
wants to part with their video card to upgrade.. If her machine has an AGP
slot, it wouldn't be too hard to find a nicer new video card for cheap -- if
it is PCI, used might be the way to go.. and if it is ISA-only system, maybe
someone out there can help.. :)

If the machine is a bit on the slow side, E might not be such a good idea
either -- I have heard it takes many CPU cycles to remain happy.

If this is the case, you may want to check out blackbox. (I think it is
blackbox.fwiw.com -- themes.org has a section devoted to it..) blackbox runs
quick, very little resources are needed, and it is still intuitive. You do
give up icons, but .. not that big a loss if the video card doesn't have
enough memory for higher resolutions.

HTH :)

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Re: more RAM = more speed?

1999-08-26 Thread Patrick Olson

 There are several solutions to your problem:
 1- Buy a new and better computer(i know that might an expensivesolution)

Wish I could :)

 2- Add more RAM and change your motherboard. At the same time reduce the 
 size of swap memory(this is to force the applications to use any free 
 physical RAM)

Will keep this in mind, thanks.

 3- Try changing your window manager, specially if you're using KDE, it tends 
 to eat-up memory(try something simpler and new since new WM have improved 
 memory managment features)

How is WindowMaker on eating up memory?  I really like it compared to
others I've tried.

Thanks,
Patrick


w output all screwed up

1999-08-26 Thread Navindra Umanee

Hi, this is on slink:

(M-x auto-fill-mode)

aseq:/usr/local# w
  1:13am  up 3 days, 22:27,  4 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
 ttyp0dak..ca  11:15pm 13:45   0.33s  0.24s tcsh
 ttyp1palpatine.xx  6:58pm  2:09m  0.55s  0.52s tcsh
 ttyp2obiwan..  3:00pm  1:33m 11:15? -
 ttyp3tk421..c 11:27pm  0.00s  0.30s  0.03s  w 

Why does the output screw up like this?  In particular, why are the
tcsh's so out of wack?  This is the same on the less cluttered w -s.

Please [g]cc: me.

Thanks,
Navin.

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   output before?
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Re: Logitech Mouseman / X

1999-08-26 Thread ferret

I don't know if this was mentioned or not. I have about 200 unred messages
for yesterday. :

You mentioned that GPM was working correctly? Try starting GPM in
'repeater' mode (add -R to your switches), then tell X to use /dev/gpmdata
for the mouse device and 'MouseSystems' for the mouse type. I'm doing this
on my devel machine (Serial FirstMouse+ and USB mouse) and it works well
for me. If that doesn't work, then maybe your X server has a problem?

-- Ferret no baka

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Evan Van Dyke wrote:

 Fraser Campbell wrote:
  Tried that and everything else I could find.  Someone suggested I try
  MouseManPlusPS/2 but this had the same effect ... mouse jitters around the
  screen and ends in top left corner.
  
  As an experiment I plugged on a Microsoft PS/2 mouse and this does the same 
  as
  the logitech ... left corner.
 
 Do you have gpm and X running at the same time?  That's known to cause
 problems...
 you might try disabling gpm
 
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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Godric
Ryan Chouinard wrote:



 I was just wondering what other people thought of the Netscape problem. I am 
 unaware
 of any other great browser for Linux, although I don't doubt thier existance.

I use Amaya 2.1 for browsing (currently running Slink) - it lacks some
of the bells and whistles of Netscape but I've never had any problems.
Also use it for making/editing web-pages and writing files in html to
send to others. 

Godric


how to create a dummy /dev/dsp

1999-08-26 Thread Stefan Langerman
Hi,

I have slink installed on an old Pentium 75 box, WITHOUT a sound card.
When I installed the system, it apparently didn't create a /dev/dsp.
How do I create one that doesn't do anything?

Thanks,

Stefan.


SQL engines

1999-08-26 Thread Urban Gabor
Hi,

I am to write a home application for Linux that uses an SQL database. I
can not decide which library to use, my two ideas are: Postgres and Mysql.
Which is the best solution and why? (The database is planned to be about
maximal 10-15 Mbyte)

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Re: trouble with fdisk and activate the swap

1999-08-26 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: trouble with fdisk and activate the swap
Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:57:58PM -0500

In reply to:Andrei Ivanov

Quoting Andrei Ivanov([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
 Device Boot   Start  End   Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *1 4063  2047720+  83  Linux native
 /dev/hda2 4064 8127  2048256   83  Linux native
 /dev/hda3 8128 8400   137592   82  Linux swap
 
 Wrong. You created Swap as a primary partition, but it has to be logical.
 (/dev/hda4 it will be)
  

Why is this wrong?  I have looked at all the swap man pages and find
no mention of having to use a logical partition.  I also found no 
reference to that in any of the kernel Doc pages.  In fact here is an
excerpt from the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ide.txt
/dev/hda1 from cyl1 to  992 dos
/dev/hda2 from cyl  993 to 1023 swap
/dev/hda3 from cyl 1024 to 2100 linux

I was supprised to learn from this search, that the swap partition can 
be as large as 2 Gig, in the 2.2.x kernels.

Could you please point me to some references for your statement?

Thanks

Wayne

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any gif animator for linux!!

1999-08-26 Thread ZEN MYSTIC

is there any gif animator available for linux...if so
pls tell where to get...


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Re: SQL engines

1999-08-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
Urban Gabor wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am to write a home application for Linux that uses an SQL database. I
  can not decide which library to use, my two ideas are: Postgres and Mysql.
  Which is the best solution and why? (The database is planned to be about
  maximal 10-15 Mbyte)

PostgreSQL has more features, especially transactions; Mysql does not have
these and is therefore faster, but less suitable for applications which 
need to guarantee informational integrity.  Look at www.postgresql.org
for more information on PostgreSQL.

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Re: Installing Debian on Dell PowerEdge 2300 problem

1999-08-26 Thread Ian Redfern
Your primary SCSI controller is an Adaptec AIC-7890/1 Ultra2 SCSI host adapter;
your secondary (with the CD) is an Adaptec AIC-7860 Ultra SCSI host adapter
(according to one of my PowerEdge 2300s running Debian 2.1).

You need to search the mailing list archives for the aic7xxx SCSI driver and its
conflict with the wd7000 driver and special command-line flags - people have
produced special boot disks that work for machines with AIC7890s, as this is an
ongoing problem.

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Re: KDE question about panel icons

1999-08-26 Thread Gerald . Preissler
Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I figured out a way to get it to work, but it's kind of a PITA. I
 have to log in as root, fire up KDE, then use the menu editor to
 assign icons for each application that isn't a KDE app, or just
 doesn't have an icon associated with it.
 
Mark,

I'm afraid I misunderstood you. I thought you had problems adding icons to
the panel at all. If I understand you correctly now, you want to /change/
the icons for programs you add to the panel. Then everything makes sense :).

KDE stores its information on apps in files called *.kdelnk . There are two
places where those kdelnk that appear in your K-Menu are stored.
$KDEDIR/share/applnk for the system-wide settings and ~/.kde/share/applnk
for the personal settings for each user. In the K-Menu, the system-wide
apps are displayed on top, then you have an entry personal which contains
your personal apps. If you don´t have this entry, you simply have not
created any personal apps. If you use Menuedit (I have not looked at it much,
I used to move around those *.kdelnk from the command line :)), you have your
personal entries on the left hand side, the system wide entries on the right
hand side and greyed out.

When you try to change the settings for a system-wide app, you try to edit
its *.kdelnk-file in $KDEDIR/share/applnk. Normal users should not have
write permission to this dir.

 I find it strange that some programs already have icons (emacs,
 vim, gv) and others don't. I realize that those I mentioned are
 fairly common, but I would guess that xterm and rxvt are too, and
 should have icons assigned to them automagically. 
 
No idea why that is so, either.

 I don't know if it's a flaw with KDE or is the packages are
 buggy.
 

Well, the flaw might be that locating the information for this whole thing
in the docs is not that easy. IIRC, it is all explained in the KFM-handbook.
You can find this in any KFM-window : Help - contents.

 I guess I can live with my little work-around for the time being.
 I guess it's a good thing that the panel isn't very large and
 wont hold more than 10 or so apps at my desktop's current
 resolution :)

Here is an other workaround for you : If you use Menuedit, right-click the
app you want and select copy. Then open your personal entries (left-hand
side, remember?) and paste it there. Then you can edit its properties.
After you saved your changes (and maybe restarted KPanel? I'm not sure.),
you should find it under the entry Personal. Add it to KPanel from there.

Oh, btw. I prefer the tiny setting for KPanel. The icons don´t look as
neat (and with the upcoming release of the new 1.1.2 or 1.2 or whatever
they decide to call it the are supposed to look /much/ neater than now),
but it takes up much less screen and I can fit more icons. You can get
/almost/ the same effect by using auto-hide on the panel, but I would not
want to do without my docked apps visible all the time.


Ok, that's a long post. Hope I could help a little.

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xfree86 3.3.4

1999-08-26 Thread Robert Varga

Are there debian packages for xfree86 3.3.4?

My video card (Trio3d) is supported only in that version. However I cannot
find them anywhere, although someone mentioned about them being in
existence. Oh, and I use slink :-)

Thanks in advance,

Robert Varga


Oracle

1999-08-26 Thread ICON ICON

Does anyone know of any free software for oracle development??

Icon


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Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie?

1999-08-26 Thread vw
Hi John
I think Seth is right, probably the easiest solution to your colour problem
will be to get a new video-card. I've had much succes using an old Tseng
ET4000-based card in my slightly archaic 486/100. Gives me up to 1024x768
and plenty colors, with no troubles whatsoever. These cards are available
very cheap or free, and very easy to configure (I'm a newbie too...), as
they used to be very common.
Good Luck
Vitux


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 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra:  Seth R Arnold [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt:26. august 1999 06:39
 Til:  John Gay; debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc:   recipient list not shown
 Emne: Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie?
 
 (I reformatted this to use 76 chars.. if you are in an xterm, I suggest
 you
 check to make sure it is 80 columns wide -- if using netscape or similar,
 please make the window smaller. :)
 
 On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:18:39AM +0100, John Gay wrote:
  E's website, but I take anything with a grain of salt. I'm interested in
  trying E, and was just looking for any experiences, good and bad with E.
 I
  was also hoping this would provide a simpler GUI for my ten year old
 
 I have never gotten E to work -- but that was with other distributions, I
 haven't tried debian's E yet. I think it would work much nicer under
 debian
 than the others, else it would never make it into stable. :)
 
 As for ease of use .. it doesn't seem nearly as easy as kwm under kde.
 *That* is pretty simple, as well as similar enough to windows so that your
 doughter will only feel revolted using windows, not completely clueless.
 :)
 
 However, kids being what they are these days, I do imagine E will give her
 no troubles, and she will probably soon be teaching you how to use it more
 efficiently. :)
 
  these yet. How would you rate E in relation to these?  7: At the moment,
  my daughter's PC is limited to 8 bit colour. Can E be configured to
 reduce
  any problems this causes? Right now, with fvwm95, if I open one app with
  lots of colours, than another one, the second complains there are not
  enough colours left and the screen keep switching different colours as
 the
  two app's borrow from each other. Is there some way to make the apps use
  the same colours?
 
 As for the color-depth problem... the window manager does not have any say
 in what colors applications can use. E will probably make the situation
 WORSE since to look good it requires many colors -- and you haven't athat
 many to go around. If it runs high resolution, you can drop the resolution
 down to get more colors, or (if your card just won't do it..) get a new
 video card. Checking your local .forsale newsgroup might find someone who
 wants to part with their video card to upgrade.. If her machine has an AGP
 slot, it wouldn't be too hard to find a nicer new video card for cheap --
 if
 it is PCI, used might be the way to go.. and if it is ISA-only system,
 maybe
 someone out there can help.. :)
 
 If the machine is a bit on the slow side, E might not be such a good idea
 either -- I have heard it takes many CPU cycles to remain happy.
 
 If this is the case, you may want to check out blackbox. (I think it is
 blackbox.fwiw.com -- themes.org has a section devoted to it..) blackbox
 runs
 quick, very little resources are needed, and it is still intuitive. You do
 give up icons, but .. not that big a loss if the video card doesn't have
 enough memory for higher resolutions.
 
 HTH :)
 
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postgres

1999-08-26 Thread rnewton3
Hallo all,
 I've just installed the postgres stuff ok, but I thought I'd check out
a thought before I upset something.
I understand that user 'postgres' is the dba for postgres. It is user
postgres who adds and deletes users and
databases. Is it safe to change the password for user postgres? At the
moment I can only access the user by su'ing from root, is this the accepted
way of doing it?
Suggestions please.
I'd appreciate a cc as well 'cos I'm not at home at the moment. Thanks



Re: xfree86 3.3.4

1999-08-26 Thread Martin Fluch
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Robert Varga wrote:

 Are there debian packages for xfree86 3.3.4?
 
 My video card (Trio3d) is supported only in that version. However I cannot
 find them anywhere, although someone mentioned about them being in
 existence. Oh, and I use slink :-)

I had the similar problem: Running slink and needed xfree86 3.3.3.1 which
is also not available as an debian package for slink. I tried to install
the binaries from www.xfree86.org, and had no problem running them.

Martin

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Help: Wierd networking problem

1999-08-26 Thread Roger So
Hi all,

My machine was running fine until I had to reboot because it had to be
physically moved.  After that I'm having some wierd problems:

- ping and traceroute from the machine doesn't work, although ping and
  traceroute to it does.

- running ip (from the iproute package) produces the error message:
  Cannot open netlink socket: Protocol not supported

Everything else though runs fine.

It's running kernel 2.2.11, and most packages are from potato.

Thanks

Roger So


Re: any gif animator for linux!!

1999-08-26 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 01:56:01AM -0700, ZEN MYSTIC wrote:
 
 is there any gif animator available for linux...if so
 pls tell where to get...
 

Try grabbing a newer (1.1.x) version of the gimp from
http://www.gimp.org. I'm pretty sure it has support for some types of 
animations.
-- 
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Re: how to create a dummy /dev/dsp

1999-08-26 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:01:19AM -0400, Stefan Langerman wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have slink installed on an old Pentium 75 box, WITHOUT a sound card.
 When I installed the system, it apparently didn't create a /dev/dsp.
 How do I create one that doesn't do anything?
 
 Thanks,
 

cd /dev; MAKEDEV audio
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Re: Oracle

1999-08-26 Thread Robert Varga


On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, ICON ICON wrote:

 Does anyone know of any free software for oracle development??
 
 Icon

You could be more specific.. Would you like to develop in pl/sql or just
plain sql for oracle?

Robert Varga 


Re: any gif animator for linux!!

1999-08-26 Thread Stephan Engelke
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 01:56:01AM -0700, ZEN MYSTIC wrote:
 is there any gif animator available for linux...if so
 pls tell where to get...

try whirlgif, it should be part of the Debian distribution.

So long -- Stephan
-- 
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  hate leads to suffering.  --  Master Yoda (more or less) ***


Re: Wierd compile error with libpthread.a

1999-08-26 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 12:13:34AM -0400, Rupert Brooks wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please note to CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I
 don't follow this list all that regularly - thanks
 
 I am having problems compiling a c program under Debian-Potato.  I have
 traced it this far:  If I compile any C program, and link in the library
 /usr/lib/libpthread.a then an executable will be produced, but when
 executed will simply lock up.
Not quite. From what I can tell, you aren't linking pthread to your
program, you are including it as one of the object files in your
program. So, gcc is shoving the whole libpthread.a in your binary. 
This works better:
cc -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -Wall -g main.o
pppoe-discover.o -L. -lpcap -lnet -lpthread -o pppoe

Instead of directly specifying the path of libraries, the best way is to
link to them with '-l'. The linker looks first for a shared (.so)
library (because the -shared option is implied), and then for a static
(.a) library. '-L.' tells the linker to also look for library files in
the current directory.

The resulting executable is dynamically linked with pthread (a standard
libc component..no need to statically link this) and libc, and
statically linked with everything else, per 'ldd pppoe'.


-- 
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installation hang up at SCSI card

1999-08-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I couldn't install Debian because the boot kernel hangs up at the 
SCSI card(2940). There are thousands of bug reports about this.

Are the debian people still working? Why didn't they try to do
anything
about it?
 
Is there anyone know the solution? Thanks.
The problem is that the default kernel on the debian boot floppy image
has EVERY thing but the kitchen sink in it as far as scsi controller
support is concerned.  I had the same problem (with an AHA2840).  I
solved it by borrowing and IDE cd rom and installing debian off that. 
I had to disable the bios in the scsi controller so that it would NOT
be detected on boot, then install off the IDE cd rom, then compile in
support for the controler into my kernel, then re-enable the bios in
the controller, then (finally) I had working support for the scsi
controller.  This only worked because my boot disk was ide (only needed
the scsi for the cd rom, and a second hard disk which I later made the
/usr partition).  A better way is to get a replacement kernel for the
boot floppy which ONLY has support for the scsi controller of your
choice.  

Why can't debian do it the RedHat way and have NO compiled in support
for scsi hw?  They ASK what controller you have AFTER booting the
kernel and then load the correct module.

BTW I downloaded stormx linux and tried to install it on a system with
a scsi cd rom and found they have NO support for scsi AT ALL in their
support.  I guess they only work with IDE cd roms (at this time).

===
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http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze

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Re: more RAM = more speed?

1999-08-26 Thread Peter Ross
On 25-Aug-1999, Patrick Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Based on the free output above, do you think 96MB would be enough to keep
 swapping to a minimum with StarOffice thrown in?  If you're not sure, I'd
 be happy to wait a week or so until you have StarOffice installed. 
 

In my experience 96Mb of RAM (which I used to have) seemed to be just perfect.
64Mb was just that little bit to small.  128Mb is preferable, but only
really possible if you are upgrading your machine.

Pete.


Re: more RAM = more speed?

1999-08-26 Thread Peter Ross
On 24-Aug-1999, Patrick Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 2.  Is it a bad idea to buy RAM for a P-133 since it only takes 72-pin?
 Instead, should I upgrade to a motherboard that can handle a newer
 type of RAM?
 
You need to consider the fact that the latest SDRAM (132 pin?) now runs
at 100Mhz, so if you buy more RAM now it wont be usable in your new
system unless you set the Memory speed back to 66Mhz.  I guess it
depends on how long you are going to wait until upgrading.

Pete.


Mozilla

1999-08-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf

How many bits of encryption does Mozilla use for secure documents?  If
I am to use Mozilla as a replacement for netscape I'd like to see the
128 bit version, so I can use it for on-line purchases for e-merchants
with a credit card.  The us version of Netscape is available with 128
bit encryption (that's what I'm using now).  If Mozilla is not using
the full encryption is there a fortify package for it?
===
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http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze

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xemacs's shell mode

1999-08-26 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
When I use the shell in xemas, the filenames does not display
properly.
The filename is actually displays as ^[[0mfilename^[[0m

What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
Shao.
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Re: Weird slow network problem...

1999-08-26 Thread John Pearson
 Dan Everton wrote:
  
  On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Aaron Solochek wrote:
   If its not too much of a pain in the ass you might want to try switching 
   the
   oomputers around to see if the problem is in the campus infastructure.  
   Are you in
   the same dorm?  Are they switched or shared connections?  If you live in 
   different
   dorms, or areas, it could be that the uplinks to his  hub/switch could be 
   slow.  Do
   others have any problem like this?
  
   -Aaron Solochek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Well, he's two doors up from me so we should be on the same switch/hub.
  The other thing though, that make me think that's it's not hardware
  (including network hardware) is that Windows does not exhibit these
  problems, so it's almost definitely something Linux is doing different.
  
  And no, I haven't heard of anybody else with similar problems which is
  unfortunate.
  
  Dan
  

This may be a problem with packet sizes or other IP settings and a dodgy
router/firewall; try comparing the MTU used by W95 and Linux (in Linux,
MTU is displayed and set by ifconfig; not sure where you'd look in W95).


John P. 
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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 05:34:34PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Ryan Chouinard wrote:
 
  I always hear people complain about Netscape crashing, but I never had
  that problem, except in Windows. But then, everything crashes in
  Windows. Netscape works fine for me in RH, Slackware, and now Debian.
  What's the deal?
  
 
 I have the same non-problem as you, and I don't understand it.  I had
 netscape crash on me last night for the first time in recent memory, and I
 was quite surprised to see it happen.  From what I can tell I'm not doing
 anything different from anybody else.  I've got Java and Javascript
 enabled, and I'm running the full Communicator 4.51 package (Navigator 4.6
 at work).  I installed 4.51 using the debian installation wrapper (using
 the archive from netscapes FTP site), and the 4.6 that's available in .deb
 format (from netgod.net, I think...apt makes it too easy to not care 8^).
 All this is on a slink system with the upgrades from security,
 proposed-updates, and netgod.  But it's been stable for ages.
 
 Oh well, I won't ask questions.  My experiences with netscape have been
 fine.  Still, though, I can't wait for Mozilla to mature.  A smaller
 browser footprint would be great.
 

I've had Netscape crash on me while JavaScript was enabled, but otherwise
it's been just fine *until* yesterday, when it crashed (occasionally and
unreproducibly, using version 4.5) several times while loading pages from
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/ with Java  JavaScript disabled, so
presumably bad HTML can still break it from time to time.


John P.
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Re: ftp trouble - cannot chroot

1999-08-26 Thread John Pearson
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:24:14PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote
 Hi,
   I am having some trouble to chroot all the users when they ftp.
 
   Using the standard in.ftpd from netstd package, I created a file
   /etc/ftpchroot with one line: shao.
 
   But when I ftp as shao, I can log in properly, but ls shows up
   nothing.
 
   I then tried to use wu-ftpd-academ. Changed passwd entry to 
   shao:x:1000:1000:Shao Zhang,,,:/home/shao/./:/bin/bash
 
   add an entry to /etc/wu-ftpd-academ/ftpaccess:
   guestgroup 1000
 
   change the entry in /etc/inetd.conf to something like
   /usr/sbin/ftpd -a which will enable ftpaccess for wu-ftp
 
   With this config, user can still chdir to anywhere. If I change
   it to guestgroup shao, then ls shows up nothing again.
 
   Here is what's happening:
 
   230 User shao logged in.
   Remote system type is UNIX.
   Using binary mode to transfer files.
   ftp ls
   200 PORT command successful.
   150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
   226 Transfer complete.
   ftp 
 
   Can anyone please help me? I have got this working before but
   now I forgot.
   

As someone else mentioned, proftpd avoids this problem.

I believe that what has happened to you is that you are operating in a
chroot'd environment and that in that environment there is no /bin/ls to
run, so no directory appears.  Try cd'ing to ftp's home directory and
copying bin/* to /home/shao/bin/ and lib/* to /home/shao/lib/.  This
isn't necessary with proftpd because it has a built-in 'ls'.


John P.
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Re: Mozilla

1999-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:52:24AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
 How many bits of encryption does Mozilla use for secure documents?  If
 I am to use Mozilla as a replacement for netscape I'd like to see the
 128 bit version, so I can use it for on-line purchases for e-merchants
 with a credit card.  The us version of Netscape is available with 128
 bit encryption (that's what I'm using now).  If Mozilla is not using
 the full encryption is there a fortify package for it?

Currently, mozilla .deb doesn't have SSL support compiled in. It appeared
not stable enough for general use last time we tried it.

I don't think there is a fortify package for it, but I could be wrong.

-- 
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Files: Debian-to-dos.

1999-08-26 Thread vw
Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a dos-readable way?
(Say I wanted to show you guys a config-file or something when I'm mailing
from an NT-box, not wanting to type the whole thing, or I wanted to take a
file from f. x. StarOffice with me to work...)
Please don't flame a pitiful 'nix newbie. I'm really trying to learn, and I
already love the efficiency of linux compared to my horrible WinNT box at
work (breaks down several times a day...)
Regards
Vitux


Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer


Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
 Hmm, that's an interesting thought. I don't run KDE (I run IceWM), but I
 often have Netscape crashes. But I'm running on a 1MB older video card
 and only 32MB RAM and am always getting messages from Netscape about not
 having enough resources (or memory?) to set color pallettes (or somesuch
 -- I just ignore the messages now so I don't remember what they say). So
 it may be that the people having crashes have fewer resources than the
 people not having crashes.

Hmmm... I had never thought of that before... The message you may be 
'forgetting' is
something like 'can't allocate color for default background' or something, given
ONLY when Java comes in... I have the same (I mean, *when* I enable Netscape's
sluggish Java support)... Like you, I have a *%$# 1Mb video card (well, it 
*used* to
have 2Mb, until I tried some experiments with its bus clock XF86Config 
options)... I
don't think it has something to do with the problem (as I crash w/out java 
enabled),
but on the other hand... I have here both fvwm95  KDE, and for some strange 
reason
Netscape seems to be more stable (even if slower) on KDE than on fvwm95 (my 
default
WM)... Could it be that it has something to do with resources and/or key/mouse
bindings? That's an interesting issue for the Gurus... ;-)

GZahn


Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie?

1999-08-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, John Gay wrote:

 1: Most .deb's I've installed went rather well. Sometimes I have to look for
 other requirement first. Are there any requirements I should get BEFORE
 installing the Enlightenment.deb's?

If you are using the dselect tool, you won't really need to think about
what dependencies to download.  It will handle everything for you.  Just
tell it that you want to install enlightenment and it will know that it
needs to install the dependencies.

 2: Will E configure as my default WM, or do I have to go and edit something?

I don't know here.  I think it should, but don't take my word for it.

 3: Is E fairly stable? I know what E says, I'd like some independent opinions.

NO!  E is constantly being re-written.  It is under heavy development and
is quite complex.

 4: Is the configuration fairly straight forward? I get the impression that 
 there
 is a lot of GUI configuring tools for E. Are they easy to find and use?

I haven't seen any.  It seems to me that the actual configuration of E is
quite difficult, at least in terms of the construction of the themes.
There are many themes that can be downloaded from e.themes.org which will
make enlightenment look completely different, but they don't seem easy to
construct.  On the other hand, simply changing the keyboard macros that
pop up menus and stuff might be quite a bit easier.

 5: Would this be an easier WM for my daughter? I'd like to provide her with as
 much access as possible to encourage her to learn how to explore the PC and 
 make
 the most of it.

Yes, I think she'd get the hang of it.  But the same could be said of most
window managers, with a bit of time.

 6: I've looked at KDE and GNOME, but right now GNOME seems a little TOO new 
 for
 my liking, and I've heard many complaints that KDE is somewhat bloated. As a
 newbie, I'm just not ready to tackle these yet. How would you rate E in 
 relation
 to these?

First of all, GNOME and KDE are much more than just window managers.  You
can easily use E with GNOME.  KDE includes a window manager, but you
aren't forced to use it.  Both of those projects are large suites of
desktop software.  KDE is much more mature than GNOME, and includes many
powerful productivity apps.  As bloated as KDE might be, it probably won't
gobble up more resources than E would on it's own! (That might be a slight
exageration, but...)

 7: At the moment, my daughter's PC is limited to 8 bit colour. Can E be
 configured to reduce any problems this causes? Right now, with fvwm95, if I 
 open
 one app with lots of colours, than another one, the second complains there are
 not enough colours left and the screen keep switching different colours as the
 two app's borrow from each other. Is there some way to make the apps use the
 same colours?

Window managers don't control the colors that are allocated to the apps.
E would probably be a VERY bad choice if you've got limited colors.  With
all the pixmaps and gradients that are used, there won't be any colors
left for your apps.  Somebody suggested blackbox as a better WM for this
situation.  You can also set up Window Maker easily to display few colors
(there are nice graphical tools for doing so).  Note also that some (few,
probably) apps have options to allow them to install their own color map.
Netscape has the '-install' option.  When you're using netscape, it will
claim all 256 colors that you have.  This will make the rest of your apps
freak out, but they'll go back to normal when you move your mouse over a
non-netscape app.

HTH.  Good luck.

Noah

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  http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html
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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 26 Aug, Peter Ross wrote about Re: Netscape
 Clicking on a mailto link causes 4.51 to crash for me everytime.
 

This is a known bug.  The workaround is to have the messenger window
open/iconified before hitting a mailto link.

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Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, John Pearson wrote:

 I've had Netscape crash on me while JavaScript was enabled, but otherwise
 it's been just fine *until* yesterday, when it crashed (occasionally and
 unreproducibly, using version 4.5) several times while loading pages from
 http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/ with Java  JavaScript disabled, so
 presumably bad HTML can still break it from time to time.
 

Weird, because I've been viewing the same pages in navigator 4.6
(everything on) for a couple days, with no stability problems.  There
isn't any unusual HTML there, either, as far as I can tell.

This is a perfect example of why bloatware is bad.  Nobody will ever be
able to debug this.  There's just too much stuff going on to be able to
track down exactly why it's crashing...

noah

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Re: Files: Debian-to-dos.

1999-08-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 03:30:43PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a dos-readable way?
 (Say I wanted to show you guys a config-file or something when I'm mailing
 from an NT-box, not wanting to type the whole thing, or I wanted to take a
 file from f. x. StarOffice with me to work...)
 Please don't flame a pitiful 'nix newbie. I'm really trying to learn, and I
 already love the efficiency of linux compared to my horrible WinNT box at
 work (breaks down several times a day...)
 Regards
 Vitux

unix2dos file

That converts the line feeds properly.


Re: Installing Debian on Dell PowerEdge 2300 problem

1999-08-26 Thread Krzysztof Adamski
Thanks, I was able to place a 2.2.5 kernel with the aic7xxx driver on
the rescue disk and it boots now.

K

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Ian Redfern wrote:

 Your primary SCSI controller is an Adaptec AIC-7890/1 Ultra2 SCSI host 
 adapter;
 your secondary (with the CD) is an Adaptec AIC-7860 Ultra SCSI host adapter
 (according to one of my PowerEdge 2300s running Debian 2.1).
 
 You need to search the mailing list archives for the aic7xxx SCSI driver and 
 its
 conflict with the wd7000 driver and special command-line flags - people have
 produced special boot disks that work for machines with AIC7890s, as this is 
 an
 ongoing problem.
 
 Ian Redfern ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 


Re: Configuring printer (HP 870Cxi)

1999-08-26 Thread Gene Schafhauser
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 06:06:47PM +, you wrote:
 Hi to all
 I'm using Debian Potato and, I must say, it's wonderful, even if it's
 unstable (sometimes WindowMaker 0.6 freezes, and sometimes the entire
 system crashes with strange errors).
 However a big problem I'm having is about printing. I'm using an HP
 Deskjet 870Cxi  printer, I configured /etc/printcap with the magicfilter
 dj550c-filter (I haven't found the right filter for 870) but when I
 print something different from text (text prints well) I get an error:
 can't find file dju550c. Where is this missing file?? I downloaded and
 installed the djtools package, but that didn't resolved anything...
 Any help would be very appreciated. Thanx
 Bye
 Marco


Hi Marco,

I am running potato with an HP855 printer.  Here is what works for
me.  It should also work for your HP870.  I am using apsfilter instead of
magicfilter.  I had problems with the potato version of apsfilter , so I
installed version 4.9.7-5 from slink.  I am using this in conjuction with
ghostscript.  For ghostscript, go to the debian ftp site and get the
deb binary from debian/project/experimental.  This has been hacked to
include the HP850 driver, which will also work for the HP870.  This setup
has been performing flawlessly for me.  Good luck.

Gene


Libraries

1999-08-26 Thread Guilherme Balena Versiani
Hello,

I want to know how to make the name_pic.a format libraries  found in
Debian distribution. I want to create reduced shared libraries with
these ones to make a small filesystem image for a boot/root disk.
I need to know at least where I could find these files:
- libncurses_pic.a (version 3.0);
- libc5_pic.a;
Or, maybe, can someone send libraries to me?

Thanks.


Re: teTeX and DWWW

1999-08-26 Thread Marc Haber
On 25 Aug 1999 14:35:49 +0200, you wrote:
Does 

http://torres.gf1.internal/cgi-bin/dwww?type=filelocation=/mnt/main8/usr/doc/texmf/tetex/teTeX-FAQ.gz

work?

Yes.

Greetings
Marc

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Strange behaviour of Apache JServ

1999-08-26 Thread Hwei Sheng TEOH
Hi!

I'm currently running a Java servlet that I wrote on Apache JServ. I'm getting
this strange behaviour that every time I restart Apache, and then access the
servlet, Apache returns a page complaining of an internal configuration/
runtime error. However, if I persistently reload the page, at some point the
servlet suddenly starts to work, and from that point on, everything functions
as normal, and the servlet can process queries without any errors.

The annoying thing is that none of this internal errors show up in the Apache
log files, so I've absolutely no idea if this is a bug in the servlet itself,
or did I misconfigure something in Apache/JServ, or is it a bug with Apache??
I even tried having my servlet open a file in /tmp/ and writing diagnostic
output into it -- but that file simply shows up *empty*.

Any ideas what might be causing this problem and how to fix it? I'm using
JDK 1.1 (Debian package 1.1.7v2-2), JSDK 1.0 (downloaded straight from Sun's
website), the apache package 1.3.6-15.2, and libapache-mod-jserv 1.0-1.

Also, possibly related is that fact that I'm using the MM MySQL JDBC driver
(manually installed) which is loaded by the servlet's constructor. I know for
sure it's NOT the actual database queries that cause this problem, because I
tested it once with all database queries disabled. It might be the actual
loading of the JDBC driver that causes the problem, though... (The driver
*does* eventually load properly, because after the servlet suddenly decides to
start working, all DB queries work perfectly.)


T


Re: Logitech Mouseman / X

1999-08-26 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
 gpm works fine with it.  X does not.  I have tried every mouse type with it 
 and
 the mouse cursor simply jumps to the top left corner of the screen as soon as 
 it
 is touched.
 
Found the very similar problem today on my friends box. He's running 3.3.4 
binary obtained from Xfree86.org on Voodoo. The problem I found was the Xserver 
won't read /etc/X11/XF86Config file, but it read /etc/XF86Config instead. After 
we fixed /etc/XF86Config, everything works fine.

Chanop


Files: debian to dos

1999-08-26 Thread mcclosk

| Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a
| dos-readable way?

You can use the mtools package. It provides a set of commands that
lets you read, write and manipulate files on an MSDOS system. Its most
typical use is to transfer files between a linux system and a
diskette. Specifically: say you have a DOS-formatted diskette in the
floppy drive of your linux box, then you can:

  mdir a:   (list the files on the diskette)
  mcopy FOO a:BAR   (copy the linux file FOO to the floppy and name it BAR)
  mcopy a:FOO BAR   (copy the file FOO from the floppy to the linux
 system and name it BAR)
  mdel a:FOO(delete the file FOO on the floppy)

The mtools package is probably on your system already. If not, you can
find it in the `otherosfs' section of the debian archive,

Jim


Re: xfree86 3.3.4

1999-08-26 Thread Alec Smith
deb http://ftp.netgod.net x/ == X 3.3.3.1 .debs for Slink

To install 3 3.4, downloading the Linux-glibc-ix86 (or similar) binaries,
then edit the X config files as needed.





On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Martin Fluch wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Robert Varga wrote:
 
  Are there debian packages for xfree86 3.3.4?
  
  My video card (Trio3d) is supported only in that version. However I cannot
  find them anywhere, although someone mentioned about them being in
  existence. Oh, and I use slink :-)
 
 I had the similar problem: Running slink and needed xfree86 3.3.3.1 which
 is also not available as an debian package for slink. I tried to install
 the binaries from www.xfree86.org, and had no problem running them.
 
 Martin
 
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Re: xemacs's shell mode

1999-08-26 Thread W. Paul Mills

Use ls --color=none

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shao Zhang) writes:

 Hi,
   When I use the shell in xemas, the filenames does not display
   properly.
   The filename is actually displays as ^[[0mfilename^[[0m
 
   What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
 Shao.


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Re: Files: Debian-to-dos.

1999-08-26 Thread David Teague
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a
 dos-readable way? 
[snip]


Vitux:

Use mtools:
   mcopy -t filename a:
will put the file on the floppy with cr-lf fixed for dos.

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Re: Files: Debian-to-dos.

1999-08-26 Thread Ernest Johanson
Vitux,

You can use unix2dos, in the sysutils pacakge.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary


On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:30:43 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Files: Debian-to-dos.
 
 Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a dos-readable way?
 (Say I wanted to show you guys a config-file or something when I'm mailing
 from an NT-box, not wanting to type the whole thing, or I wanted to take a
 file from f. x. StarOffice with me to work...)
 Please don't flame a pitiful 'nix newbie. I'm really trying to learn, and I
 already love the efficiency of linux compared to my horrible WinNT box at
 work (breaks down several times a day...)
 Regards
 Vitux
 
 
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HP 8100 CD-Writer under Debian

1999-08-26 Thread Alexandre Roque Henrique
Anyone knows if this hardware works in Debian?
Thanks, Roque 


Re: Netscape

1999-08-26 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
Well... The only somehow 'reproductable' crashes I remember of comes when:

1) I try to delete HTML-ized e-mails from the messager window... It won't 
happen 100%
of the times I do it, but, say, 10%...

2) I press 'enter' after entering my username  password for some sites; this 
happens
quite frequently (Hmmm... I'd say 30% of the times, specially if the NS windows 
on
the site requiring authentication isn't on the 1st plane (i.e., it's either 
under
another - NS or not - window or on another desktop).

Also, sometimes Netscape crashes just when I press the 'stop' button on 
Navigator, or
when I click on a harmless link... or even when I'm just typing a new e-mail... 
These
crashes aren't so common as the other ones, but seem to happen at least twice 
or 3
times a day...

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: SQL engines

1999-08-26 Thread William T Wilson
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 PostgreSQL has more features, especially transactions; Mysql does not have
 these and is therefore faster, but less suitable for applications which 
 need to guarantee informational integrity.  Look at www.postgresql.org
 for more information on PostgreSQL.

It is entirely possible to guarantee data integrity in MySQL just as much
as with a more ordinary transaction-oriented database.  It's a little
different way of thinking, though.  You have to use a locking system
similar to that used in a multithreaded programming language.

I personally find the MySQL approach simpler, but it won't be if your
brain is already wired for transaction centric thinking.

Anyway, for 10-15MB database MySQL's speed will not be that noticeable if
you use any kind of reasonable hardware to serve it with (say a Pentium
class system).  Your choice in this case will be based on licensing (you
can't resell MySQL or integrate it into a product you're selling without
paying licensing fees, but you get full source to either one) and your
desire to use or not use a transaction based approach to SQL.

MySQL also is more commonly used for integrating with web applications,
but there is no reason why PostgreSQL wouldn't be capable of this too.



Re: xemacs's shell mode

1999-08-26 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:45:07AM -0500,
W. Paul Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Use ls --color=none
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shao Zhang) writes:
 
  Hi,
  When I use the shell in xemas, the filenames does not display
  properly.
  The filename is actually displays as ^[[0mfilename^[[0m
  
  What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
  Shao.
 

Even better, use term mode instead of shell.

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dselect/apt via non-NAT firewall

1999-08-26 Thread Brian McGroarty
Is it possible to use dselect/apt via a non network address
translating (proxying) firewall?

Available are socks and a [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp. (i.e. to connect to
ftp.debian.org as ftp, I 'ftp proxy' user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
password whatever.)

Unfortunately our system administrator only understands Windows
and won't move to a real firewall/proxy; he's married to Wingate
because it's the only system he understands.

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X with kernel 2.2.12

1999-08-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
Has anyone else had trouble getting X to work with kernel 2.2.12.  The
same setup I use with 2.2.11 won't work.  For some reason it wants to
limit my dot-clock frequency to half what I have with 2.2.11 and that
doesn't leave any valid modes.

System is potato with xserver-svga 3.3.1-10.

Bob

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Re: Apt-get source question

1999-08-26 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Apt-get source question
Date: Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 09:17:18AM -0200

In reply to:Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira

Quoting Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hi Debian users,
 anyone knows if with apt-get source package I can see the new 
 avaliable packages before get sourcing to checks if the pack
 age is it or doesn't exist?
 My problem is:
 I have a slink home box. First I installed apt 0.3.11 to get source 
 potato packages to compile here. So, I have a slink bo
 x with lot of potato packages compiled.
 But, how do I check what new packages are avaliable for me to get 
 with apt-get source? Only with more /var/lib/dpkg/avalia
 ble I can do this! :(
 Thanks, Paulo Henrique
 
 
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  Could you _please_ set your editor to wrap at 70 or so columns.
Your posts a a pain to read as setup now.

Thanks

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Re: X with kernel 2.2.12 (solved)

1999-08-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
In looking further, I found that it didn't detect my video ram correctly
and set it to 512k.  Specifying 2048k in XF86Config cured the problem.
 

On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:54:54AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 Has anyone else had trouble getting X to work with kernel 2.2.12.  The
 same setup I use with 2.2.11 won't work.  For some reason it wants to
 limit my dot-clock frequency to half what I have with 2.2.11 and that
 doesn't leave any valid modes.
 
 System is potato with xserver-svga 3.3.1-10.
 
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Inchon International Airport Information Delivery

1999-08-26 Thread han




Dear Madam and SirI am Billy Ahn from PR team of 
Inchon International Airport Corporation. First of all, apologize the mail 
without your permission.We are now constructing Korea's new airport on a 
reclaimed tidal land off west coast. Inchon International Airport will be 
born as an ultra modern off-shore airport operating 24 hours a day, which will 
open after 6 months of overall readiness check-up following the completion of 
construction in June of 2000.We like to mail you further information of 
our airport such as facilities, construction progress, operation readiness etc. 
This mail is absolutely not for commercial purpose, but giving you 
up-dated information of our airport project.Best Regards.http://www.airport.or.krP/S : Please 
inform " No" in subject, if not interested in. We never mail 
you again. - 
Korean -안녕하십니까?저는 인천 국제공항사 홍보팀에 안상준 입니다.저희 공사는 한국 서해 
영종도에 새로운 공항을 건설하고 있는바, 2000년 6월 까지건설 공정을 완료하고 이어 7월부터 종합시운전을 거쳐 2001년에 개항하게 
됩니다.인천 국제공항은 24시간 운영하는 해상공항으로 초음속 초대형기가 취항할 있는 최첨단 공항으로 탄생하게 
될것입니다.인천 국제공항 홍보팀에서는 후반기 공정진행 현황 및 운영준비사항을 소개할 인터넷 뉴스 레터를 9월 20일 부터 관심있으신 분께 
송부하여 드릴 예정입니다.이 뉴스메일 의 수신을 원하지 않으시면, 제목에 "No"를 쓰셔서 회신주시 기 바라오며. 다시는 메일을 
송부하지 않도록 하겠습니다.다시한번 허락 없이 메일송부한점 부디 양해하여 주시기 
바랍니다.감사합니다.http://www.airport.or.kr


Files: Debian-to-dos.

1999-08-26 Thread Kenneth Scharf


Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a
dos-readable
way?
(Say I wanted to show you guys a config-file or something when I'm
mailing
from an NT-box, not wanting to type the whole thing, or I wanted to
take a
file from f. x. StarOffice with me to work...)
Please don't flame a pitiful 'nix newbie. I'm really trying to learn,
and I
already love the efficiency of linux compared to my horrible WinNT
box
at
work (breaks down several times a day...)
Regards
Vitux

I think all you have to do is to mount the floppy and copy the files to
it.  IE: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt -t vfat
will mount the floppy on /mnt using the dos/windows file system.  There
is also the issue of crlf to lfcr translation.  If there is a
problem with that I think there is a utility available to do this.
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ipx printing, the parallel port, and ipx collisions

1999-08-26 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

I had the deskjet attached to this thing working, at least for 
postscript printing.  I then installed ncp to use the novell laser 
printers, successfully printed to one, and now I can't print to the 
deskjet by my side.

Even printing something trivial, I get

hawkinsttyp0:hawklpq
waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
1sthawk   22   cs.ps 16921 bytes

The printer is most definitely on line, and I printed a page from 
windows.  I've tried stopping and starting lpd to no avail.

Possibly related (i've never dealt with novell befre) is that I now 
receive plenty of messages to the xconsole of collisioins:

Aug 26 12:53:02 hawkins kernel: IPX: Network number collision 24899 
Aug 26 12:53:02 hawkins kernel: eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2 
Aug 26 12:53:07 hawkins kernel: IPX: Network number collision 24899 
Aug 26 12:53:07 hawkins kernel: eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2 
Aug 26 12:53:23 hawkins kernel: IPX: Network number collision 24899 
Aug 26 12:53:23 hawkins kernel: eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2 
Aug 26 12:53:25 hawkins kernel: IPX: Network number collision 24899 
Aug 26 12:53:25 hawkins kernel: eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2 


Finally, is there an extra how-to around for magic filter?  It claimed 
to have configured successfully and accepted the printer I told it, but 
it doesn't seem to be doing anything; I still get the stair-case effect 
on text files (and this machine is a bit low on horsepower to use 
ghostscript all the time).

While I'm pushing my luck, the IPX howto mentioned that it's possible 
to set up queues to use normal linux printing to send to novell network 
printers; is there an explanation for this anywhere?

rick


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Automatic software installing (like Win. 2000)

1999-08-26 Thread Sami Dalouche
I would like to know if there's a possibility with apt (or something else)
to do the same that windows/Office 2000. 
It installs automaticly new software from the CD when you want to start a
non-installed function.

It could be great if under Debian, when we type a command that don't exist,
it would automaticly search the command from a small APT database or from the 
internet if diald|direct connection is here.
And we could specify in a conffile to download the software or to install
directly from the CD.

Wouldn't it be cool ? Is it possible to program ?

If a such software doesn't exist, do some people want to join to me to
program a such thing - As soon as I'm able to do it, I'm learning C in the
moment -. ?

sami.


Re: Still Having .forward problems with EXIM

1999-08-26 Thread Kent Andersen
Thanks to all who helped me on this problem, it appears the problem was EXIM
was thinking that the domain was local

Thanks again
Kent


Re: dselect/apt via non-NAT firewall

1999-08-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Brian McGroarty wrote:

 Available are socks and a [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp. (i.e. to connect to
 ftp.debian.org as ftp, I 'ftp proxy' user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 password whatever.)

You need APT from potato (can get a slink version at
http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt_0.3.11.1_i386.deb)

Then read apt.conf and look in /usr/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf.gz -
heading the warning to not copy the conf file directly. I think the
example in there is quite close to what wingate uses

Jason


Re: Automatic software installing (like Win. 2000)

1999-08-26 Thread Frankie Fisher
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:13:59AM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
 I would like to know if there's a possibility with apt (or something else)
 to do the same that windows/Office 2000. 
 It installs automaticly new software from the CD when you want to start a
 non-installed function.
 
 It could be great if under Debian, when we type a command that don't exist,
 it would automaticly search the command from a small APT database or from the 
 internet if diald|direct connection is here.

Are you sure it would be good?
Aren't debian's dependencies meant to handle that pretty much?

 And we could specify in a conffile to download the software or to install
 directly from the CD.
 
 Wouldn't it be cool ? Is it possible to program ?
Well you would have to alter each and every shell for a start, to call your
code when it can't find the path, and that's just for commands people would
type. Then commands called from compiled languages would need a lower level
method of handling it maybe.

 
 If a such software doesn't exist, do some people want to join to me to
 program a such thing - As soon as I'm able to do it, I'm learning C in the
 moment -. ?
I wouldn't. I think that unix is not like that; I think the fact that apt-get
can install packages I haven't individually requested it to is enough for me;
I want control, not nannying.

Good idea though.

frankie


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[SQL] a newbie's question on language syntax

1999-08-26 Thread Jack Lee

Hi:

  Thanks for reading my problem. I got MySQL
installed a while ago. My problem is how to
display database(or table) content with
proper syntax of SQL language.

  The following is a quote from the interactive
mode of MySQL, under which I've tried several
commands. The database I was working on is named
mysql, but the prompt of the interactive mode
is also called mysql:


  mysql-select *
   -SELECT *
   -select * from mysql
   -SELECT * FROM mysql


  My purpose was just to look at the content of
the database, mysql. There showed nothing, no
matter how I tried using select or show. BTW,
I'm just wondering does commands have to be small
latters or big letters?

Have a nice day

Jack




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Re: Automatic software installing (like Win. 2000)

1999-08-26 Thread Ashley Clark
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Sami Dalouche wrote:
 I would like to know if there's a possibility with apt (or something else)
 to do the same that windows/Office 2000. 
 It installs automaticly new software from the CD when you want to start a
 non-installed function.
 
 It could be great if under Debian, when we type a command that don't exist,
 it would automaticly search the command from a small APT database or from the 
 internet if diald|direct connection is here.
 And we could specify in a conffile to download the software or to install
 directly from the CD.
 
 Wouldn't it be cool ? Is it possible to program ?

Egads man! That would be a lot of work, for it to work (I personally wouldn't
want it on my machine for numerous reasons) you'd have to make *EVERY* program
that executed a program check with apt/dpkg to see if a package contains that
executable. The only other way around it would be to write a wrapper program
that would take as arguments the command line to search for and possibly
install. This would be easier but you'd still have to tell all other programs
to change what they execute in order for your program to search for new
packages.

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mounting problems

1999-08-26 Thread Jocke
Hi all,

Been recompiling my 2.2.10 kernel to be able to use hp 8100+ CDRW.
I think I got it all right but some strange things did happen.

I can't mount my ordinary cd anymore!
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
   or too many mounted file systems

Where do I start looking?

Here is some information.
in fstab:
/dev/hdc/cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto 0  0

cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord release 1.8a23 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
  0) 'SONY' 'CD-ROM CDU4011  ' 'UY04' Removable CD-ROM
  1) 'HP  ' 'CD-Writer+ 8100 ' '1.0g' Removable CD-ROM
  2) *
  3) *
  4) *
  5) *
  6) *
  7) *

Can anyone help me ?

Best regards
Joakim Svensson


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