Re: cups bat la campagne....

2015-07-27 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 26/07/2015 17:12, maderios a écrit : Le 26/07/2015 14:34, François Patte a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 26/07/2015 13:39, maderios a écrit : Le 26/07/2015 13:05, François Patte a écrit : Quel moyen de vérification

NetworkMangaer - Not reproducible (for me) misbehaviour on ignored interfaces

2015-07-27 Thread Bernd Naumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, My laptop network setup works like the following: I have a build in wlan- (wlan0) and ethernetcard (eth0), and just want to use wlan0 managed by NetworkManger, so I have stated a minimal eth0 config in /etc/network/interfaces # cat

Re: Debian vs NTP

2015-07-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-27 07:51:28 +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: Le dimanche 26 juillet 2015, 21:22:35 Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2015-07-26 20:39:52 +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: Ben, quand tu réveilles ta machine après 10h de dodo, t’as plutôt envie qu’elle soit à l’heure rapidement…

RE: cups/cups-browsed: only advertise online network printers

2015-07-27 Thread Tuxo Holic
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:28:21 +0100, Brian wrote: Your problem (please correct me if I have not understood what you said) is that applications, Iceweasel, Evince etc, still see HP_LaserJet_1020 after the server is closed down. No, I meant: the server usually stays on until I go to bed, but

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread john vera
this is a easy problem between the keyboard and chair xD 2015-07-27 7:19 GMT-04:30 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote: I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03 installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not.

Re: cups bat la campagne....

2015-07-27 Thread yamo'
Salut, maderios a écrit le 26/07/2015 17:20 : Ton post est imprécis. Quelle Debian, quelle imprimante, quel driver? En tous cas, la version de cups que tu mentionnes, 1.5.3-5, est de loin obsolète par rapport à celle de Jessie qui est la 1.7.5-11. D'après :

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote: I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03 installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not. In one word, drivers. Also, have you checksum checked the net install with firmware disk? Another suggestion, install

Re: Problema con Debian 8.1 lxde i386 en instalación limpia

2015-07-27 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 26 Jul 2015 23:26:16 +0200, Oscar Mosquera Ramos escribió: (ese html...) Usaba Debian 7 con la última actualización. He comprobado que Debian se ha actualizado a la versión 8.1 He actualizado debian mediante apt-get dist-upgrade editando de antemano los repositorios. Cuando la

Re: HS_Re: cups bat la campagne....[résolu]

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 27/07/15 à 14:15, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : M Pas claire cette histoire... Tu ne parlais pas de Cups, il fallait le M dire plus tôt... Euh, là t'abuses ;-) Son 1er post contenait version cups: 1.5.3-5+deb7u5 avec un sujet cups bat la campagne M La liveboxe orange est une

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. The current developer pretty much lives there, and there is a nice group of subscribers. They talk about this kind of question all the time. https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info -- I am not a loony. Why should I be

Re: [SOLVED -- sort of] Unwanted application autostarting at login with XFCE

2015-07-27 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry about firing the blank there. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: [...] Thanks to all who participated in this thread. If anyone has a clue how to fix this without purging the package, I'll try reinstalling it. I also sometimes get applications

Re: cups bat la campagne....[résolu]

2015-07-27 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 26/07/2015 00:28, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:33:02 +0200, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, J'ai une foule de problème avec

HS_Re: cups bat la campagne....[résolu]

2015-07-27 Thread maderios
Le 27/07/2015 13:04, François Patte a écrit : Le problème est résolu: l'imprimante était branchée sur le port usb d'une box sagem d'orange et c'est le serveur d'impression de celle-ci qui met la pastouille depuis la mise à jour de ladite box par orange... Pas claire cette histoire... Tu ne

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera: In one word, drivers. Hi there, some hardware is not recognized by the insdtallation kernel. I suggest, to install a minimal systerm from the DVD, then download and install the newest linux-image-* with another computer and install it

Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 15:17:50 Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i wrote: btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better Chris Bannister wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here. btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user. man 8 btrace:

Pitfalls of german-english dictionaries. Was: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better Chris Bannister wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here. [i missed the point] Lisi Reisz wrote: But what does resp. mean? I guess there is something wrong with my use of respectively.

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-27, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and

Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better Chris Bannister wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here. btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user. man 8 btrace: The btrace script provides a quick and easy way to do live

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread André
Monday 27 July 2015 15:32:27 Cyrille wrote: J'aurais besoin d'un conseil avant achat. J'avais un portable LDLC AURORE BB5 i3 4 H5 : Quelle est sa vraie marque, car LDLC ne semble pas en être une. Sans doute un PC générique de basse qualité, made in RPC, où tout le monde peu y apposer sa

Re: Plus possible d'ouvrir Liobreoffice

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Le 27/07/2015 17:58, André a écrit : $ libreoffice /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libavahi-common.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory La librairie libavahi-common.so.3 ne peut s'installer : # apt-get install

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread maderios
Le 27/07/2015 15:32, Cyrille a écrit : Bonjour J'aurais besoin d'un conseil avant achat. J'avais un portable LDLC AURORE BB5 i3 4 H5 : c'était un i3 avec 4 go de RAM DDR 3 2.5 Ghz et un disque SATA de 500 G (année 2012) Il a rendu l'âme, :-( J'en cherche un dans les mêmes prix (moins de 500

Wheezy Installer?

2015-07-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable? Thanks. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Wheezy Installer?

2015-07-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:39:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable? https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ but read the warnings on that page before use. Thanks. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Frederic Robert
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:49:32PM +0200, AOMSL Samy wrote: J'ai eu un Thinkpad T410 avec un I7 M620 à 2.67GHz pour 400 € et un Thinkpad R400 avec un Core2Duo P8400 à 2.26GHz pour 200 €. Et je ne suis pas déçu des produits (faut aimer le matos d'occasion avec les rayures éventuelles, les

Se me congela el Sistema en Debian 8.1 Cinnamon

2015-07-27 Thread Centro Provincial de Patrimonio
Hola listeros. Tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, que por cierto, lo veo muy completo como entorno. Sucede que en dos ocasiones trabajando en el mismo, cuando menos lo esperaba, se me congela todo. Solo el cursor funciona, nada más. Después de esperar un tiempito, pensando que es algún

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to

Plus possible d'ouvrir Liobreoffice

2015-07-27 Thread André
$ libreoffice /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libavahi-common.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory La librairie libavahi-common.so.3 ne peut s'installer : # apt-get install libavahi-common.so.3 E: Impossible de trouver

udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to find that udev would create an eth0 on finding an 8139too on the

Re: Se me congela el Sistema en Debian 8.1 Cinnamon

2015-07-27 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:18:17 -0400, Centro Provincial de Patrimonio escribió: Hola listeros. Tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, que por cierto, lo veo muy completo como entorno. Sucede que en dos ocasiones trabajando en el mismo, cuando menos lo esperaba, se me congela todo. Solo el cursor

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Cyrille
Un ordinateur de 2012 qui rend déjà l'âme, c'est limite scandaleux. pas franchement de leur faute, ma fille l'a fait tombé. Ce n'est pas le matos qui est en cause ;-) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get

Re: Wheezy Installer?

2015-07-27 Thread Markus Schönhaber
27.07.2015, 17:39 CEST Hugo Vanwoerkom: Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable? Thanks. If you're looking for install media, here: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Openvpn com 2 links (um para VPN outro para navegar)

2015-07-27 Thread Keppler
Obrigado pessoal! Vou ler este material todo e depois posto os resultados! mais uma vez, obrigado pela ajuda de vocês! Em 26-07-2015 14:00, Bruno Lessa escreveu: Boa tarde. Presumindo que você utilize squid, você poderá setar o gateway da rede lan direto no proxy por meio do parâmetro

Re: HS_Re: cups bat la campagne....[résolu]

2015-07-27 Thread maderios
Le 27/07/2015 15:49, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : Le 27/07/15 à 14:15, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : M Pas claire cette histoire... Tu ne parlais pas de Cups, il fallait le M dire plus tôt... Euh, là t'abuses ;-) Pas vraiment. Merci de citer le message auquel je répondais et qui était:

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread AOMSL Samy
Bonjour, Le 27/07/2015 15:32, Cyrille a écrit : J'avais un portable LDLC AURORE BB5 i3 4 H5 : c'était un i3 avec 4 go de RAM DDR 3 2.5 Ghz et un disque SATA de 500 G (année 2012) Il a rendu l'âme, :-( Un ordinateur de 2012 qui rend déjà l'âme, c'est limite scandaleux. J'en cherche un dans

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to find that

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): Hi, i wrote: I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net David Wright wrote: I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, right? Yes. It

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Le 27/07/2015 19:01, Cyrille a écrit : Je revends du Dell et n'ai jamais eu de soucis pour y installer Linux. Un des derniers portables Dell que j'ai livré sous Ubuntu Vostro 3546/i3-4005U 4G 500G 15.6 Aurais tu un site pour voir ce que tu proposes au niveau config / tarif ? Le site de Dell

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Cyrille
As tu vu le Dell Ubuntu Serie 3000 à 249 EUR ? Oui mais c'est un celeron, je préférerai un i3 :-( ou à défaut un Pentium N3530 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe

Re: cups/cups-browsed: only advertise online network printers

2015-07-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Jul 2015 at 14:17:52 +0200, Tuxo Holic wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:28:21 +0100, Brian wrote: Your problem (please correct me if I have not understood what you said) is that applications, Iceweasel, Evince etc, still see HP_LaserJet_1020 after the server is closed down.

utf8 en console [ boulet online]

2015-07-27 Thread Fabrice Regnier
salut la liste ;) Je ne me suis jamais senti très à l'aise entre utf8 et iso-machin. Mais cette fois, je souhaite basculer complètement vers utf8. Et je ne m'explique pas ceci: Je créé un fichier utf8 avec kate sur une machine de dev qui contient des accents et que je déplace sur le

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Grégory Reinbold
Salut, Ce qui me choque c'est que ton premier PC LDLC a rendu l'âme au bout de trois ans et que tu retournes sur le même type de config avec le même fournisseur et de même marque... Mon conseil : essaye autre chose. Cdt Grégory Reinbold UNIX - Where there is a shell, there is a way. On

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread maderios
Le 27/07/2015 17:23, Cyrille a écrit : Salut et merci pour vos réponses Pour 500€, il existe bien d'autres choix. Tu penses à quoi ? Regarde du coté de asus, le rapport qualité prix est correct. (surtout pas avec Optimus, c'est mal supporté) Je ne connais pas :-( C'est une technologie

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread cont...@baal.fr
sur mon asus R510CC ma carte wifi d'après asus n'est pas supportée par linux mais sa marche quand même des l'instillation à part un petit bug mais résolu en 2 secondes pour ce qui est d'optimus http://www.nvidia.fr/object/optimus_technology_fr.html effectivement je m'en sert sous ubuntu sa

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Le 27/07/2015 18:53, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit : Bonjour Le 27/07/2015 18:13, Cyrille a écrit : Quelle est sa vraie marque, car LDLC ne semble pas en être une. C'est une base clevo http://www.clevo.fr/ Dell est recommandé pour ceux qui voyagent beaucoup car solide. je reviens du site

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Cyrille
Ce qui me choque c'est que ton premier PC LDLC a rendu l'âme au bout de trois ans et que tu retournes sur le même type de config avec le même fournisseur et de même marque... Oui mais s'il est mort c'est que ma fille l'a fait tomber par terre ! J'ai plusieurs machine LDLC au travail ou à la

Re: utf8 en console [ boulet online]

2015-07-27 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le lundi 27 juillet 2015, 18:43:47 Fabrice Regnier a écrit : salut la liste ;) ’soir, […] En console, sur le serveur, je ne vois pas apparaître les accents Par « console », tu entends bien un tty, hein, pas une connexion ssh ou autre ? fabricer@ns330829:~/infocentre$ head util.php ?php

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote: On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera: In one word, drivers. Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was removed from Debian main for some silly reason. A lot of hardware

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Cyrille
Salut et merci pour vos réponses Pour 500€, il existe bien d'autres choix. Tu penses à quoi ? (surtout pas avec Optimus, c'est mal supporté) Je ne connais pas :-( -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Cyrille
Je revends du Dell et n'ai jamais eu de soucis pour y installer Linux. Un des derniers portables Dell que j'ai livré sous Ubuntu Vostro 3546/i3-4005U 4G 500G 15.6 Aurais tu un site pour voir ce que tu proposes au niveau config / tarif ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to find that udev would create an eth0 on

Openvpn x Vtun

2015-07-27 Thread Keppler
Boa tarde pessoal. Alguém já usou Vtun (http://vtun.sourceforge.net) ? É melhor que Openvpn?..Quanto a questões como Segurança, Estabilidade, Velocidade ??? Só achei meio estranho, pois parece que a última atualização do projeto foi em 2012 Quem tem experiência com isso, poderia me

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Christophe De Natale
Le 27 juil. 2015 à 17:23, Cyrille cyri...@cbiot.fr a écrit : Salut et merci pour vos réponses Bonjour, Pour 500€, il existe bien d'autres choix. Tu penses à quoi ? C’est clair, 500€ ça fait déjà une belle petite somme. Je m’orienterai sans hésiter sur du Dell gamme pro (Latitude E6420 ou

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption via /ssl/ or /tls/. I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption. I can't be certain

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Christophe De Natale
Cordialement, Christophe De Natale Le 27 juil. 2015 à 19:24, Cyrille cyri...@cbiot.fr a écrit : Le seul hic, c'est que dans mon budget le chipset est Pentium N3530, je ne connais pas, j'aurais préféré un I3, sauf ci on me dit que c'est bien aussi comme puce Il existe déjà 4

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bob Bernstein wrote: I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info Will ask there after i managed to get version 2.20 running from source tarball. (Or after i encountered a showstopper.) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): David Wright wrote: I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption via /ssl/ or /tls/. I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from see the same effect as with

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread maderios
Le 27/07/2015 18:53, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit : Je revends du Dell et n'ai jamais eu de soucis pour y installer Linux. Voici donc un bel exemple de conflit d'intérêt sur une liste Debian :-( Par ailleurs, les matériels obsolètes ou en voie d'obsolescence sont en général bien supportés. --

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread John L. Ries
I understand the desire to put free software first and segregate out packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not available for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is to offer to install a non-free one (purists should be free to change the config to

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread Thierry Granier
Bonsoir, je suis la discution avec interet car je cherche moi meme un portable. que pensez vous de ca http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/ordinateurs-pc-portables/lenovo-thinkpad-t520-i5-4gb-ram-160go/f-1070992-len0885976979648.html?idOffre=56947135#mpos=12|mp

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:30:20 -0600 Glenn English g...@slsware.net wrote: Guys, this is not tough. Just put non-free in your apt sources file line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in not unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any time you ask for

Re: Se me congela el Sistema en Debian 8.1 Cinnamon

2015-07-27 Thread AlexLikeRock
veamos, danos mas detalles, *targeta de video, *kernel *cuantos bits -- ** software libre no significa gratis: richard m. stallman http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista#resumen http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista/Gmail

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 10:48:21 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I finally did get

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:33:11 Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, and while I

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. It did connect with explicitely setting port 587 for /tls/. But i bet that neither port nor encryption protocol is the problem. If not alpine mimicks a SMTP error 503 then the connection is good enough to transmit

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit : OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description:

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Curt
On 2015-07-27, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote: Ideals are good, but one still has to deal with reality. You can find some reality here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Glenn English
On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote: On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera: In one word, drivers. Don't we mean:

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): Were I a user of mail.gmx.net, I would ask them. Futile. They'd want me to use the web interface with lots of advertising. Oh dear. Well, could you attack the problem the other way round and connect alpine to exim, say, on your own machine.

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread debian-org
Bonjour, Le 27/07/2015 20:46, maderios a écrit : Le 27/07/2015 18:53, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit : Je revends du Dell et n'ai jamais eu de soucis pour y installer Linux. Voici donc un bel exemple de conflit d'intérêt sur une liste Debian :-( A mon sens non puisque Daniel ne propose pas de

Re: Plus possible d'ouvrir Libreoffice

2015-07-27 Thread André
On Monday 27 July 2015 18:06:45 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote: Le 27/07/2015 17:58, André a écrit : $ libreoffice /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libavahi-common.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory La librairie

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread cont...@baal.fr
j'aurais pris celui ci http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/ordinateurs-pc-portables/lenovo-thinkpad-t520-i5-4gb-ram-160go/f-1070992-len0885976979648.html?idOffre=56947135#mpos=12|mp Le 27/07/2015 20:44, Thierry Granier a écrit : Bonsoir, je suis la discution avec interet car je cherche moi

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:57:45 + (UTC) Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to make udev forget the names it has assigned ? Yes. Just delete the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net and reboot. And while on this subject, can udev be made to forget all the

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:56:19 Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be

Letsencrypt - Debian?

2015-07-27 Thread Michael Bonert
Is there a time line for releasing a Let's Encrypt ( letsencrypt) package for Debian? Will it be backported to Debian stable? I did note discussion of that here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774387 It is available at github: https://github.com/letsencrypt/letsencrypt

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 7/27/2015 2:30 PM, Glenn English wrote: On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote: On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera: In

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-27 Thread Dennis Wicks
Mart van de Wege wrote on 07/27/2015 12:49 AM: Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes: On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes: Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for nothing. I know. I really do. I only have been

OFF - Venda PCEngines ALIX

2015-07-27 Thread Marcos Carraro
Boa Noite, Alguém desapegando de alguma placa ALIX com 3 entradas RJ45? Ou sabem me indicar aqui no Brasil onde consigo a um preço bom.. Abraços *--* Att Marcos Carraro about.me/marcoscarraro

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-27 Thread Dennis Wicks
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 07/26/2015 03:40 PM: On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past). Use your wristwatch. Or better,

Sobre Adobe Flash y vulnerabilidades

2015-07-27 Thread cpp
Hola listeros. Hace unos dias comentábamos sobre el plugin Adobe Flash y sus vulnerabilidades.Alguien sabe si ya hicieron las correcciones al mismo? NO tengo INTERNET. Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: Do try strace, and if you know a bit of SMTP, which seems the case, you should be able to spot the problem in a few minutes. It's nearly too late in the evening. But (with alpine 2.20 from source): read(9, 220 gmx.com (mrgmx102) Nemesis E..., 8192) = 52

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-07-27 at 14:55 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: Guys, this is not tough. Just put non-free in your apt sources file line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in not unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any time you ask for it. We are

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright a écrit : It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. Nicolas George: strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. I do know the port number if stunnel is involved. Whatever, the ports and

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. Whatever, the ports and encryption are ok. It's alpine's way of speaking ESMTP and/or Nemesis' unfilfilled ESMTP expectations which

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread benoit
Bonjour, Perso et pro, j'achètes mes machines fixes et portable chez pcubuntoo Alain est très serviable et de bon conseil (j'ai 3 fixes et 2 portables). Donc j'en suis content. Benoit message d'origine- De: cont...@baal.fr Pour:

Re: Pitfalls of german-english dictionaries. Was: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 16:53:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote: The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that  English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and

Invitations mardi et samedi

2015-07-27 Thread S L
Bonsoir Si vous résidez en région parisienne... Vous êtes invités à la réunion Parinux de demain près de la Bastille http://parinux.org/content/reunion-le-28-juillet-2015-la-fph et au Premier Samedi du 1er août à la Cité des sciences

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:27 AM, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote: I understand the desire to put free software first and segregate out packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not available for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is to

Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 19:30:20 Glenn English wrote: On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote: On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john

Re: [SOLVED -- sort of] Unwanted application autostarting at login with XFCE

2015-07-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:48 -0400 (EDT), Joel Rees wrote: I also sometimes get applications I had closed coming back when I log back in. XFCE sometimes gets its states wedged. There is a command I sometimes used

Re: OFF - Venda PCEngines ALIX

2015-07-27 Thread Marcos Carraro
Processador AMD GEODE x86 http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode_(processador) *--* Att Marcos Carraro about.me/marcoscarraro 2015-07-27 19:20 GMT-03:00 Julio julio.s...@gmail.com: Curiosidade, que arquitetura é ? On 27-07-2015 18:11, Marcos Carraro wrote:

Next Q, re amd64-microcode

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Is there an autoloading routine I know not about that chooses to see if either the intel-microdoe is loaded and applied, or the amd64-microcode is applied? I cannot find a reference to the attempt to load it in the dmesg report on this machine I am building.. Apt-get install

Consulta ATI RADEON HD4250

2015-07-27 Thread Sebastian Oldani
Hola, alguien pudo instalar esta placa ATI RADEON HD4250 con aceleración gráfica?. Yo la tenía instalada con el driver propietario, pero con las actualizaciones de kernel al parecer no funciona más. Me pasó y lo leí en varios foros. En este momento tengo instalado Debian Jessie (kernel

Re: Sobre Adobe Flash y vulnerabilidades

2015-07-27 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:46:21 -0400 (CDT) c...@pinarte.cult.cu wrote: Hola listeros. Hace unos dias comentábamos sobre el plugin Adobe Flash y sus vulnerabilidades.Alguien sabe si ya hicieron las correcciones al mismo? NO tengo INTERNET. Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: HS_Re: cups bat la campagne....[résolu]

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 27/07/15 à 16:50, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : M Le 27/07/2015 15:49, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : M Le 27/07/15 à 14:15, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : M M Pas claire cette histoire... Tu ne parlais pas de Cups, il fallait le M M dire plus tôt... M M Euh, là t'abuses ;-)

Re: OFF - Venda PCEngines ALIX

2015-07-27 Thread Julio
Curiosidade, que arquitetura é ? On 27-07-2015 18:11, Marcos Carraro wrote: placa ALIX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: [SOLVED -- sort of] Unwanted application autostarting at login with XFCE

2015-07-27 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:48 -0400 (EDT), Joel Rees wrote: I also sometimes get applications I had closed coming back when I log back in. XFCE sometimes gets its states wedged. There is a command I sometimes used to use to reset the wedged state when the title/menubar disappeared. I'm

Re: portable : conseil avant achat

2015-07-27 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Le 27/07/2015 19:40, daniel huhardeaux a écrit : Le 27/07/2015 19:01, Cyrille a écrit : Je revends du Dell et n'ai jamais eu de soucis pour y installer Linux. Un des derniers portables Dell que j'ai livré sous Ubuntu Vostro 3546/i3-4005U 4G 500G 15.6 Aurais tu un site pour voir ce que tu

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