Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 04:21:53PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> > Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
> >> But hey, with so many Russians in Estonia, you may be sure that at least
> >> Russia will not nuke you, so be positive about what you have ;-) (irony
> >> off). There are always two sides, you know.
> > 
> > They could try the same as they have done it with Crimea...
> > 
> > There is a group of russians in Estonia which try to do this,
> > but they will get the worst nightmare on the neck...
> > 
> > However, it will take at least two years to get the WHOLE rest
> > of my german and french enterprises to Estonia...  ;-)
> > 
> > Then I am more or less 90% operational.
> > 
> > Maybe I will restart TDAerospace and TDTechnology ;-)
> > 
> > Two enterprises where frenchies have tried to steal my inventions!
> 

>  one is for sure, you need a good psychiatrist and lawyer 


deloptes,

I view your last line a blunder; instead of dealing with Michelle's
arguments, you tell him that he is just a mental case for you.

(As 90 percent of the people regard 90 percent of their fellow humans as
"compleat idiots", you are not alone.)

But don't overlook that this kind of disputing indicates a totalitarian
attitude, culminating in totalitarian countries like the Soviet Union,
where dissidents were easily brought under psychiatrical treatment.

You should rethink the Baltic social situation:
If it hadn't been Stalin, who filled up the Baltic countries with his Russian
invaders in order to keep control over these countries, but if it had been
Hitler, who (after his victory) had occupied England and filled her up with
his Nazi-invaders by about 50 percent in order to prevent the British from
any further uprising – how should those leftovers of Hitler be dealt with
today?

Regards Wilko

Re: Computer friendly blood pressure?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:44:07AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
> it Apple or Android].
> 
> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
> 
> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
> capability.
> Preferred solutions would be something that:
>  uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
> or
>  has USB connectivity
> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
> 
> Already written Linux apps a plus.
> 
> Any suggestions/comments?
> 
> Thank you.


Moin,

for my own blood pressure control, I wrote a shell script that serves
me well.

[I get my data through a simple, but fairly precise wrist cuff device
 without capability of saving my data.]

Parallel to measuring my blood pressure, I call up my own shell script
by typing just two letters: 'bl': an alias for my shell script 'blutdruck'
(blood pressure).

When my wrist device shows my data: systolic pressure, diastolic pressure
and my pulse rate, I type these 3 data into my shell script; after that,
my shell script asks for a comment: Here I can add comments to my pressure
results that will fit to a single line.

Finally, my script shows all my data of the actual month, each on a single
line, with my comments (and date+time) added. With a month passing, the
script automatically starts a new file.


(At the end of this script follows an examle of it's output per month;
 comments are free text in any language.

 Check that your system provides parent directories if necessary.

 If you translate certain definitions, be sure to do it in a consistent
 way.

~


#! /bin/bash


#~  Begin Functions  ~

function Get_Date_by_Names  ()  {

#   =$(date +%Y)# year  (2017)
#   mon=$(date +%-m)# month (1..12)
mon=$(date +%m) # month (01..12)
#   MON=$(date +%b) # MONTH (Jan..Dez)
#   dow=$(date +%w) # dow   (0..6)
DOW=$(date +%a) # DOW   (So..Sa)
dom=$(date +%d) # day of month

datum=$(date "+%a, %d.%m.%y  %H.%M")
dmonat=$(date "+%m.%y")

#   (Combined `date`-Data require a single '+' only)
}

function Display () {

clear

echo
echo"   Blutdruck Statistik ${dmonat}"
echo"   -"

echo
tail -n 16 Blutdruck_${dmonat}
echo

exit

}
#  End of Functions  ~

clear

typeset -i ODruck=0 UDruck=0 Puls=0 # 'integer': non-numeric input => '0'


Get_Date_by_Names
#   ~

[ ! -d /home/Desktop/Blutdruck ] && mkdir -p /home/Desktop/Blutdruck
cd /home/Desktop/Blutdruck

sudo touch  Blutdruck_${dmonat}
sudo chown root:staff   Blutdruck_${dmonat}
sudo chmod 0660 Blutdruck_${dmonat}

echo
echo"  Blutdruck Statistik ${dmonat}"
echo"   "

echo
tail -n 14 Blutdruck_${dmonat}
echo

echo -n "   Blutdruck, oberer Wert: ";  read ODruck
[ $ODruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#~~~
echo -n "   Blutdruck, unterer Wert: "; read UDruck
[ $UDruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#~~~
echo -n "   PulsSchläge pro Minute: "; read Puls
[ $UDruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#~~~
echo -n "   + Kommentar ? : "; read Info

echo "  ${datum}  = ${ODruck}/${UDruck} mm Hg // ${Puls}/min[${Info}]" | 
tee -a Blutdruck_${dmonat};
if  [ "${DOW}" = "So" ]; then
echo "  ---">> 
Blutdruck_${dmonat};
echo
>> Blutdruck_${dmonat};
fi

 Display
#~~~

# (End of Prog)

~




Example of this prog's output (august 2017)
–––


Do, 24.08.17  03.32  = 148/83 mm Hg // 65/min   [n.Kr.haus, n.unklaren 
Pillen, mit Verst]
Do, 24.08.17  10.20  = 135/88 mm Hg // 61/min   [(gest: 
Kart+Rapunzel+Feta) n.Pillen, o. Frühstück, mit Verst]
Do, 24.08.17  14.42  = 115/64 mm Hg // 66/min   [(Pillen alle 24h statt 
36h) ohne Verst, Hafermüsli]
Do, 24.08.17  15.51  = 112/67 mm Hg // 63/min   [dito, n.4T.Tee]
Do, 24.08.17  18.32  = 122/72 mm Hg // 68/min   [gerade mit Rad zurück 
von Statenzijl]
Do, 24.08.17  19.34  = 121/71 mm Hg // 63/min   [dito, 1 h danach]
Fr, 25.08.17  07.29  = 134/83 mm Hg // 62/min   [wenig Schlaf; gerade 
aufgestanden]
Fr, 

Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:52:48AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> i can watch tv with xawtv
> now i want to use mplayer
> 
> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:input=1 -vo xv tv://
> 
> command above is right, but there's no sound
> tv sound is connected to linein of sound card
> which options should i add??
> 
> Thanks!


Did yout try 'smplayer'?
It's menues saved my day.

Additionally, 'smplayer' shows the params to be used by 'mplayer'.

Re: Jessie networking with multiple IPs (IPv and IPv6), single physical NIC

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 04:17:24PM +, Curt wrote:
> 
> Never heard of Arhus.  
 
 Aarhus is the main town of Jutland, Danmark.

-- 
 
 "Certitude is not the test of certainty."
 --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
 & 
 "Education is a man's going
  from cocksure ignorance
  to thoughtful uncertainty."
  (n.n.)

Re: VLC Plays Video But No Sound –– addon

[Wilko Fokken]

Supplement:

My sound system is based on pulseaudio + alsamixer.

After hibernation, my sound is blocked sometimes, e.g. when I start
youtube under firefox before the sound is active.

For this problem, I start this alias:

alias pulse='sudo kill -9 $(pidof pulseaudio) && alsamixer -c0'

(making sure that pulseaudio isn't installed twice.)

Re: VLC Plays Video But No Sound

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 03:29:09PM -0400, Thomas George wrote:
> VLC audio message: vdpau_avcodec generic error: decoder profile not
> supported: 7
> 
> I have also tried playing the video with mpv which gives a different error
> message:
> 
> [lavf] Edit lists are not correctly supported (FFmpeg issue)
> 
> 
> My system is Stretch. ogg123 plays ogg files with not problem but I just
> checked and found mpg321 plays mp3 files with no sound.
> 
> Any suggestions as to what is missing? How to fix this?


Under Debian Jessie + icewm, I had installed vlc: No pictures no sound.

Sb. in this forum was advised to use mplayer.

So I purged vlc, used deborphan to get rid of it's fringe benefits, and
as a layman in video and sound, installed mplayer AND smplayer.

After fiddling a little within smplayer's menu, I could enjoy a film DVD,

(an old present that I hadn't been able to get working before:
   "Those magnificient men in their flying machines")

Re: PulseAudio (Some users get sound, orthers do not)

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 11:35:42PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> This morning, I went to my wife's login and ran:
> 
> pulseaudio --kill
> 
> rm ~/.config/pulse
> 
> pulseaudio --start
> 
> And that worked.
> 
> When I tried to do the same thing under my daughter's login, however, I get
> the warnings about the cookie file and ~/.config/pulse is NOT recreated, so
> still no sound anywhere.  I have checked the permissions of my daughter's
> ~/.config/pulse directory and it is 644 with her user as owner and group.
> That matches ~/.config in my home directory and my wife's.
> 
> 
> So why does pulseaudio not create the files it needs, like it did for me and
> my wife?  Is there something else that I am missing? Any help will be
> appreciated.
> 
> Marc


Moin Marc,


my /etc/passwd:
- - - - - - - -
pulse:x:113:121:PulseAudio daemon,,,:/var/run/pulse:/bin/false

my /etc/group:
- - - - - - - -
audio:x:29:pulse,my_userid
pulse:x:121:my_userid
pulse-access:x:122:my_userid


my pulseaudio refresh (if no sound):
- - - - - - - - - - - 
pulseaudio --kill && alsamixer -c0

make sure 'pulseaudio' is loaded only once
(check with 'ps ax | grep pulseaudio')


Wilko

Re: mplayer won't play audio CD

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 11:34:13PM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> Sorry to bump in to this, but why not use players like vlc, Audacious or
> Kodi?
> 
> To me Audacious still kicking and works on Debian 9.
> https://s9.postimg.org/ir3ta4kdb/Audacious.png

Within dselect,
I made a little test activating packets for installation:

a) vlc
b) mplayer + smplayer

and compared the amount of packets to be installed:

mplayer turned out to be the slimmer choice,
and does it's job.

Re: mplayer won't play audio CD

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 09:23:15AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2017-06-29, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:
> > Please help...  mplayer works fine when playing files (mp3, wav, etc), but
> > fails in playing audio CDs.  When I launch it as a normal user I have:
> >
> > $ mplayer cdda://
> > MPlayer 1.3.0 (Debian), built with gcc-6.3.0 (C) 2000-2016 MPlayer Team
> > do_connect: could not connect to socket
> > connect: No such file or directory
> > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote 
> > control.
> 
> How about giving it the full path:
> 
>  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/media/cdrom cdda://1
>  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/hdb cdda://1
> 
> or wherever the device exists on your machine.
> 
> Also perhaps verify in a mixer program (alsamixer, e.g.) that cdrom audio 
> output
> isn't muted.
> 
> Maybe there's no audio cable between the cd drive and the sound card. 
> 
> ;-)


Moin together,

having only recently succeded in running a movie DVD and a music CD using
mplayer via smplayer under Debian Jenny on my laptop "hp 6730b", I found
that my pulseaudio sound system needs to be activated BEFORE other
processes using sound are started.

[using 'ps ax', one can study the mplayer params set by smplayer]


In order to be able to refresh my sound system at any time, even after
processes using sound are already active, I'm using a simple alias
(from within a terminal):

alias pulse='sudo kill -9 $(pidof pulseaudio) && alsamixer -c0'


hope this may help a bit

W. Fokken

Re: olivetti pcs 42P

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 03:54:20PM +, gonzalo Fernandez _ Peindo Diaz wrote:
> hello i need help about of my computer olivetti pcs 42P because when y start 
> it
> 
> When I turn it on it leads me to a paguine that tells me that I have to 
> insert a disk with drivers I have a bag full of floppy disks of that type are 
> drivers of windows 95 well there are manyisimos the case is that I have tried 
> them all and everyone tells me That are not bleats or not reads nothing so I 
> would like that if you can help me since I do not know much this world of 
> informatic
> 
> 
> PS: I do not know anything about how to use this computer since my 
> grandfather gave it to me and since he did not know how to use it, he was 
> raising dust because of its disuse

(How old are your floppies?)

Actual Debian OS won't accept your time honoured hardware: 486 CPU.

For embarking on a retro-pioneering achievement, you may take a look at URLs 
like:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2000/03/msg02535.html

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 03:32:12PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote:
> [Sat, 9 Jul 2016 23:16:29 +0200] MI  wrote:

> > > IMO: If you have a program that relies on files or directories
> > > in /tmp being persistent, then that program is buggy, not Debian.
> > 
> > It's not a program. It's just me, mostly while setting up and testing
> > a fresh system, which may need frequent reboots.
> 
> ...but may I suggest you to use `/var/tmp` as a workaround?
> `/var/tmp` is a persistent alternative to `/tmp`.
> 
> HTH
> Linux-Fan


I set the following link (in single user mode):


– – – – – – – – – – –

rm -rf /tmp

chmod 1777 /var/TMP

ln -s /var/TMP /tmp



Additionly I altered /etc/default/rcS:

# TMPTIME=0

TMPTIME=8

– – – – – – – – – – –

So far, my system seems to be running smoothly; (with MANY reboots a day
as I am trying out a cohabitation of my favourite old 'icewm' with Debians
chosen xfce4-wm.)

My oldest files and directories in '/tmp' date from july 31.

(Hoping my answer won't be redundant, as only skimmed my mails in a rush.)


Regards Wilko

Re: Debian 8. keine Ahnung....

[Wilko Fokken]

Ein Trost bleibt:

Debian [nach ausgiebigen "Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß"] zu installieren,
könnte dazu beitragen, den künftigen Aufenthalt im Altersheim zu verkürzen ;~)

Re: Failure of evince to open a PDF.

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 01:26:30PM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Updated a jessie system this morning.  Then tried evince.
> 
>   evince afile.pdf
> 
>   A window entitled "Document Viewer" with this notice popped open.
> "Unable to open document "file:///home/peter/afile.pdf".
> File type HTML document (text/html) is not supported

(Are your access rights ok?)

Re: Alternatives to gftp in Jessie

[Wilko Fokken]

I use the Midnight Commander: 'mc'
(Linux substitute for the OLD Norton Commander)

Via it's sftp-switch (under the menu key: 'F9', click on 'SFTP link'),
it opens it's split screen to another computer.

login example: anonymous@ --> password: 

--> same procedure as local work.

Re: cp output format

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 08:23:13AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
 Sorry for this elementary question. I want to do sequential copies with
 a command like this: $ cp --backup=t  file .../destination/file. When
 periodically run it produces file, file.~1~, file.~2~, etc.
 
 How do I get rid of the ~ so that the backups are file.1, file.2,
 etc.? 

If you are familiar with shell scripts, you can use a 'for' loop:
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
for i in 1 2 3 ; do
mv file.~${i}~ file.${i}
done
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

You don't have to put each number into the 'for' loop yourself;
with e.g. 17 files, you can write:

for i in `seq 1 17`; do
...
done


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Re: Light web browser for old PC

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 03:07:43PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
 On 02/07/2015, Wilko Fokken wfok...@web.de wrote:
  In the past times, depending on a serial modem for internet access,
  I preferred Opera, because it allows to switch ANY graphics OFF // ON
  through simple menu buttons:
 
 
 A problem with the opera web browser, that causes me to avoid using
 recent versions, and to avoid updating, and, to recommend against
 installing it, is the inclusion of the malware named speed dial, and,
 the obsession of the opera staff, with preventing users from disabling
 the malware that is named speed dial.
 
I wonder whether old Opera versions WITHOUT Speed Dial would be safer
compared to using recent versions WITH Speed Dial integrated.

 As soon as someone finds how to disable speed dial, the opera people
 prevent speed dial from being disabled in the next version.
 
 So, for a web browser that is efficient, I suggest lynx.
 
 And, I recommend against installing opera.

As I don't have to rely on my slow serial modem any more to connect to the
Internet, I am using Opera only when I need to completely block out nasty
ads.

With a right mouse click on a blank Opera screen, I have opened the Speed
Dial configurtion menu allowing me to diminish and/or hide Speed Dial
completely; whether this still enables intruders to exploit it as malware,
I'd like to know.

So far, I haven't experienced any abuse of my computer abstaining strictly
from facebook, twitter etc., using only 'mutt' as my mailer.


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Re: Light web browser for old PC

[Wilko Fokken]

In the past times, depending on a serial modem for internet access,
I preferred Opera, because it allows to switch ANY graphics OFF // ON
through simple menu buttons:

[View]-- [Images]-- { [Show images] || [Cached Images] || [No Images] }

(Any of the three options can be made the default, to be altered according
to one's need while browsing.)

So I had No Images as my default, starting Opera in text only modus;
this allowed me to move between URLs pretty fast, and when I had reached
an interesting URL, I could easily turn on graphics mode.

As pure text browsers, I prefer both: elinks and lynx.


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Re: Old Computers

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:32:01AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
 ... 
 Look around and see if you can find a copy of fvwm 1.24r - I ran that
 for years on a 386 with little RAM without any problems. Version 2 is a
 little heavier, but you can compile it yourself and leave out options
 you don't need, like pixmap support for the titlebars etc.
 
 Petter
 
I still use icewm as my favorite window manager (no gnome).

(Though I installed xfce4, too, I hardly ever use that WM,
 since I don't like those tiring mouse operations
 as xfce4 offers but limited key handling.)


Install:
 packages: icewm, icewm-common

Drawback:
you have to edit the config files in /etc/icewm/* to your taste:

 menu
 preferences
 programs
 toolbar

(After this is done, your individual configuration will hardly need
 another touch, if you saved your altered files for system updates.)

To start icewm,
have /etc/xinit/xinitrc execute two commands:

 exec /etc/profile
 exec icewm-session

To limit boot to text mode, 
disable any display manager files: xdm, gdm .. in /etc/init.d,
 
start X via startx


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Re: Thanks for all your suggestions regarding Xfce!

[Wilko Fokken]

I'll give it a try.


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Re: My Friends Make Fun of My UI

[Wilko Fokken]

What I am mostly missing so far under Xfce, compared to Icewm, is a toolbar
placed at the BOTTOM of the screen. Using varifocal glasses, I have to strain
my neck badly in order to focus the Xfce toolbar at the TOP of the screen
through the LOWER area of my glasses.

The second shortcoming of Xfce is (at least by it's defaults) that little
attention seems to have been given to the convenient possibilties of the
keyboard; once your fingers know their handling, they operate independently
of your brain, and you can focus on your problems instead of being
permanently distracted by those positioning demands of your mouse.

Another exemplary feature of Icewm that I would like to find again under
Xfce, are those 3 tiny 5mm-squares(!) placed next to the digital clock
into the toolbar, showing permanently the main activities of the system,
each using specially coloured top-down rsp. bottom-up indexes:

Square One shows the load of CPU, HDD and RAM.

Square Two shows (if active) both, the sending and receiving load of LAN.

Square Three shows (if active) both, the sending and receiving load of WAN
(including modem activities).

Alltogether, they use up just 2 cm of the toolbar, yet giving instantly
a detailed insight of all important system activities - and problems.

(The main drawbck of Icewm: You don't get just pampered with all those
multimedia goodies allowing you to operate sound, video etc. without
understanding much of what's going on under the hood.)


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Re: recommended ftp clients for Debian

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 02:11:13PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Yes, I know I can STFW.  I have in fact done so.  But I am after personal 
 experience.  
 
 I want a simple ftp client, for putting not getting, that is easy and 
 pleasant 
 to use.  GUI based.  For the use of non-geeks as well as myself.
 
 Lisi

My favourite ftp is mc:
It works ftp transfers the same way as transfers within one's own file system.

Wilko


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Re: HTML viewer

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 05:32:48PM -0500, Ralph Katz wrote:
 
 On 01/05/2015 07:57 PM, Frank wrote:
  I am looking for a simple HTML viewer I can use under MC to read
  HTML docs. I have Dillo installed but even it seems overkill for
  what I need. Does anyone have suggestions ?
 
 I use html2text for that.  Very simple.


I use html2text with args:

html2text -width 999 -o file.txt -nobs file.html

(-width 999 no line breaks)
(-nobs  Don't use backspaces for boldface and underlining)


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Re: HTML viewer

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 02:01:05AM +0100, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote:
 w3m, links or elinks. With w3m being the most pager-like..

.. and lynx (I like it's brilliant display).


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Re: Bash

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:45:19PM +0200, Gokan Atmaca wrote:
 I want to conditionally output from the bash command. for example
 
 telnet localhost 25
 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Postfix
 
 #! / bin / bash
 COMMAND = `telnet localhost 25`
 if [$ COMMAND == 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Postfix]
 echo postfix ok
 else
 echo postfix error

Your bash syntax, corrected:

#! /bin/bash

if [ $COMMAND = 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Postfix ]; then
echo ok
else
echo bad
fi


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Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner, moin Anthony.


I remember having had similar problems with my mutt/wheezy on my laptop.
(My mails are handled by my provider; I use fetchmail to get them.)

As Interrupt reactions of your mail system could be due to missing files
or directories, I put an excerpt of my own exim4/mutt configuration here
running under Wheezy in order to assist you in evaluating your entries.

(my local login name = wwf)


~/.muttrc (mode= 0640, owner =wwf:mail)
---
...
my_hdr From:wfok...@web.de (my email address at my email provider)
...
set realname=Wilko Fokken

set editor=vim  (make sure vim is found by mutt!)

set charset=UTF-8
...

set folder=~/Mail   # Where my mail folders go
set postponed=~/Mail/mutt/postponed # Where to put postponed messages
set tmpdir=/tmp
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Make sure to install directories according to .muttrc contents:

mkdir -p ~/Mail/archive
cd ~/Mail/archive
touch now

mkdir -p ~/Mail/mutt
cd ~/Mail/mutt
touch postponed
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

check for entry in /etc/email-addresses:

wwf:wfok...@web.de
relating local login name to my mail name at my provider
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

my mail files (mode= 0660, owner= wwf:mail)
are located in directory:
/var/mail (mode= 2775, owner= root:mail)

~

in directory /etc/exim4/ (0755, root:root), I modified 3 files:


/etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf:
--
(active entries = my alterations)

# dc_eximconfig_configtype='local'
dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
#
# dc_other_hostnames='my local mailname'
dc_other_hostnames=''
#
# dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1'
dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1 ; ::1'
#
# dc_readhost=''
dc_readhost='fok02.laje.edewe.de'   (=my local mailname)
#
dc_relay_domains=''
#
# dc_minimaldns='false'
dc_minimaldns='true'
#
dc_relay_nets=''
#
# dc_smarthost=''
dc_smarthost='smtp.web.de'  (my provider's smtp address)
#
CFILEMODE='644'
#
# dc_use_split_config='false'
dc_use_split_config='true'
#
# dc_hide_mailname=''
dc_hide_mailname='true'
#
dc_mailname_in_oh='true'
#
dc_localdelivery='mail_spool'
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


/etc/exim4/passwd.client:
-
# Example:
# target.mail.server.example:login:password
#
smtp.web.de:my smtp login:my smtp passwd
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

/etc/exim4/conf.d/router/800_exim4-config_maildrop:
---
#  check_local_user (ORIG: this entry was activated)

~
~

(in order to keep my original configuration, I save
 my original files in an added subdir: ./ORIG/)

Good luck!

Wilko


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Re: XP style themes for various DE's in Debian repositories?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 01:17:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 
 IIRC the IceWM DE/WM had a theme called BluePlastic which looked one
 heck of a lot like XP. I used IceWM for about 4 years and recommend it
 highly, although from what I understand it's not all that well
 maintained, and its config programs, if you can install them at all,
 are lacking. So to really get IceWM to do your bidding (and it can),
 you're going to need to edit a few twitchy XML like files.
 
 SteveT

I'm still using IceWM (Theme: win95 - with 12 virt. screens).

I like it, since it takes just 1 bottom(!) line (easier to watch through
my presbyopic glasses) leaving a maximum of free space on narrow screens.

Three tiny squares on this line show
a) cpu + hd activities
b) lan activity
c) wan activity

The rest of this line shows a digital clock (+ date under mouse cursor),
my 12 tiny virtual screen buttons + active progs. w/in a specific screen.

Progs. are started via a menu activated by Ctrl-Esc or the Start button
down left - practically the same as in Win95.

Screens are switched by Ctrl-Alt-Arrow or selected by mouse click.

The little maintenance of IceWM has one advantage though: I keep my 4 old
configuration files and copy them into the updated Debian directory
(/etc/X11/icewm).

IceWM, to my opinion, is the fastest unimpaired WM I know of. 

Wilko


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Re: mbox files - can they be compacted?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 02:10:09PM +0200, Rafał Radecki wrote:
 
 Is there an option to compact large mbox files from the shell?

gzip mbox_file

mutt -f mbox_file.gz

wwf


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Re: What an intriguing post

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:39:48AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Wilko, this is so creative, so cute, so humorous, so on-topic, and so
 necessary, especially the part about a death camp, that I'm overwhelmed
 trying to think of a worthy response.


The tryers should give up;
and those, who've given up,
should try.


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Re: Backup's to DVD

[Wilko Fokken]

As a Frisian, living at the North Sea: on clay, surrounded by reeds,
I relished every single bit of spit between both long standing 'Multies'
[multinationals] of the Antique.

I am convinced, this poetic dispute will, in the long run, enliven
even the fiercest 'Fachidiot' clinging ever tighter to his narrow
subject of excellence.

(Adorno's verdict:
After Auschwitz one can not write poems any more.
.. was answered:
In truth, already before Auschwitz, Adorno couldn't write poems.)


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Re: modem hangup problems continue

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 04:10:42PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
 I'm running Squeeze on a P3 board and dialup.
 My modem gets hungup after 2.5 minutes about 30% - 40% of the time I
 connect. Being idle, in the middle of fetching email or loading a
 webpage seems to make no difference. Is there any way to log all
 transactions going to the modem which is on ttyS2? Something like
 script but for a serial port?

 Thanks,
 Mike

 --
 Education is a man's going from cocksure ignorance to thoughtful 
 uncertainty.


Moin mitnanner,

until recently, I was using a modem myself (now it is being substituted by LTE).

With my old 9/11 clunker, I am still running Lenny (kernel 2.6). My usb modem,
undressed to it's electronic plate to keep it cool, worked reliably except for
one aspect: When I disconnected it from the internet after a certain amount of
data transfer, the modem was blocked and I had to pull it's usb plug in order to
restore it to working condition. Then it worked reliably again.

(This problem did not show up when I connected it to a jounger laptop running
Wheezy.)

Killing and restarting it's drivers had no effect. So, I just lived with it
suspecting some usb idiosycrasy.

In Your case, I would remove the modem's box, as serial modems don't seem to
be sufficiently ventilated, and hang it's electronic plate vertically to cool
it even more: = minus one construction site.

Another delicate spot is the serial interrupts, due to poor hardware design,
if you work with old hardware: Your modem could interfere with e.g. a serial
mouse etc.:

Try running your modem with another interrupt, w/out X, disconnect your mouse..
Look into your BIOS.

I reduced my serial modem speed from 115200 to 57600, as the phone line
needs only 56 Kbit.

If that helps, you have probably found the culprit: rearrange your serial
interrupts. Try plugging your serial modem cable to another computer outlet,
+ rearrange your driver's configuration.

If everything fails, buy an ELSA usb modem (they work with Linux and should
be cheaper by now), plug it in and look into '/var/log/messages'; my driver
was '/dev/ACM0'. ELSA modems have worked well for me, so I'll keep my for
reverence and as a backup.


Good luck!

Wilko

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Dialectic of truth:
Were she is being possessed,
she will be lost;
where she is being sought,
she may be found.
 
(Hagia Sophia)


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Re: On what is helpful and what is not [was: Re: Wifi]

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:42:09AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
  Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
  that) isn't an insult?
 
 nub, short for newbie, i.e. new user.  And no, it is not an insult.
 
 Lisi
 

In the British war film Triple Cross, the comment Anfänger (beginner)
was considered the insult of his life by a German colonel (Gert Fröbe).

;-)


Wilko
 
Education is a man's going
 from cocksure ignorance
 to thoughtful uncertainty.


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Re: OT: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Thanks.  That is really interesting - I love linguistics and etymology. But 
 this is an English language list. ;-)
 
 Lisi


Well, when you pop an 'outlandish' bottle,
the outcoming (imp) might not comply with 'inlandish' rules.. ;-)

Btw. (speaking of etymology),
up to the 13th century, the Frisian language had stayed so close to
it's descendant, Old English, that English actors playing puppet shows
were understood without interpreters.

Later on, both languages went apart, Old English was 'overhauled' by the
Romanics, Frisian by the Hanseatics.


Stay humid on a dry rusk ..

Wilko


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Re: OT: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:18:33AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 03:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  PPS: Guten Tag miteinander! or Hallo miteinander! or Hallo zusammen!
  
  Resp. Moin is independent of the daytime, so it's the German Hallo,
 
 Aaaarghhh, my broken English sucks.
 
 Not Hallo is misinterpreted, but Moin.
 
  sometimes misinterpreted for Guten Morgen (Good morning!) only, but
  it's for Guten Tag (Good day!) and Guten Abend! (Good evening!) etc.
  too.
 
 Less often Moin is used for Good bye! in common speech.


Thanks Ralf, for your help.

As a Frisian, I like to add some specifics:

In the today's Low German dialect,

(since the 13th century spread out by the German Hanse,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League)

the term moi means nice, beautiful; it can be ascribed e.g.
to a flower, a girl or a day.

As a greeting, moin comes fairly close to the English have a nice day:
(ik wünsch joe een moien dag, means literally: I wish you a nice day).

This longish kind of a greeting has, in the course of time, been shortened
via een moien dag, een moien, moien to moin, first among the people
at the North Sea (where stronger winds tend to blow unnecessary words away).


Since the last century, this kind of a shorty has spread over Germany north
of the Weißwurscht-Äquator (a Bavarish term meaning those northern
German regions, where the famous Bavarian Weißwurscht - White Saussage,
an indispensable addi(c)tion to a Bavarian beer - is almost unknown. This
kind of equator - roughly drawn by the course of the river Main - divides
today's Germany nicely into two halves).


With an almost indentical meaning, the term have a nice day is used at
parting, while moin is mainly used when meeting people. The doubled term:
moin moin at leavetaking is afaik only used in the North Sea's coastal
areas.

The ordinary northern German term at the end of a meeting has become tschüß,
presumably originated in Hamburg, derived from the French adieu (= go
with God) under Napoleon; later possibly mixed with the Frisian curse:
Harijasses!, shorter: Jusses! (= Herr Jesus!), used when there is a
big mess, and everything got filthy); both terms joining via adjüß to
tschüß. (So, the thought of God was really lost - together with Napoleon.)


Have a nice one,

Wilko


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Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 09:55:20AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Jo, 11 iul 13, 07:12:35, Wilko Fokken wrote:
  
  The following lines explain, what should be done in order to get the dot
  files out of the way into a subdirectory.
 
 You included lots of unrelated customizations, see below.
 
  The dot files of root  go into subdir /root/
 
 Err, aren't they already there by default?
 
You are right; I overlooked this, since I didn't work with an unmofified
system.

The improvement, from my point of view, is that a 'cd' w/out params
puts the user 'root' into the top directory.

  The dot files of users go into subdir /home/$HOME/.rc/
 
 I'd go for /home/$user/.config (the default XDG directory). 

This can easyly be accomplished: alter the subdirs in '/etc/skel'.

  HowTo get Dot Files into separate Subdirs at Installation Time
  ==
  wfok...@web.de  July 11 2013
  
  ( set tabwidth = 4 to view this file )
  
  
  1.  Modify /etc/skel
  
  
  [from]:
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   220 Jan  1  2013 .bash_logout
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root  3392 Jan  1  2013 .bashrc
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   675 Jan  1  2013 .profile
  
  [to]:
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   220 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.bash_logout
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root  3392 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.bashrc
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   675 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.profile
  
 Ok, but this only affects new users. For existing accounts one has to 
 move the files by hand.

- cp -a '/etc/skel' to '/home/user'.
(I am used to save my original files into subdir '/ORIG/' before.)

  
  [ these three files in .rc/ need to be edited ] :
  -
  
  a)  .bash_logout:
  -
  # ~/.bash_logout: executed by bash(1) on logout:
  # clear screen (here = max. 24 virtual text consoles)
  # [ enhance ## of text consoles: add entries in /etc/inittab ] 
  
  case `tty` in
/dev/tty[1-9] | /dev/tty1[0-9] | /dev/tty2[0-4] ) clear
  esac
 
 This is not necessary for the task at hand and the default .bash_logout 
 already does similar (and better, it doesn't clear *all* consoles, just 
 because I logged out of one).

This example only clears the actual console being left - even with more
than six consoles - for me an essential plus when working with text consoles;
I easily use compilers, source files and various documents in parallel.

 
  b)  .bashrc:
  
  # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
  # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files
  
  . /etc/profile
 
 See bash(1) for why this is not needed.

As a private user, I log in under more than one user id. This assures that
the basic configuration remains identical and can be altered for all users
at one location: '/etc/profile.local', even for the graphic modus.

Besides any user configuration can eindividually be altered within $HOME.

 
  c)  .profile:
  -
  
  # ~/.profile, at login autoread by all Bourne-compatible shells (after 
  /etc/profile)
  # ~/.profile is *NOT* executed by bash shell if ~/.bash_profile exists
  # All 2nd level bash shells will read ~/.bashrc
  
  # add wanted user owned subdirs,
  # (e.g. sh = shell, pl = perl, py = python scripts) :
  
  for DIR in /home/$LOGNAME/bin /home/$LOGNAME/sh /home/$LOGNAME/pl \
  /home/$LOGNAME/py; do
  [ -d $DIR ]  PATH=$PATH:$DIR
  done
 
 These seem to be your own customizations and don't seem to apply to the 
 task at hand.

Only indirect. This example shows that customizations can be simply done
as under a standard configuration.

 
  PATH=$PATH:.
 
 Are you sure this is a good idea?

This is only added to user's .profile, not for root.

  export PATH PS1 PS2
  
  # mesg y
  
  # 'cd' command (below) moves login `pwd` to  $HOME/.. !
  # -
  # (applies new bash function 'cd ()')
  # (defined in /etc/profile/profile.local)
  
  cd
  
  
  2.  Within /root, modify .bashrc, .profile :
  
  
  prepend command:./etc/profile to  .bashrc
 
 Are you missing a space here?

Yes.

  append  command:cdto  .profile
  
  
  3.  Modify /etc/passwd: login_dir == /home/user/.rc
  ==
  
  example:
  wwf:x:1001:1001:Wilko Fokken,,,:/home/wwf/.rc:/bin/bash
 
 So basically you're setting $HOME to be /home/$user/.rc

Yes.

  4.  /etc/profileAdd call to homebrew /etc/profile.local:
  
  (keeps original condition of /etc/profile)
  
  # 
  test -f /etc/profile.local  . /etc/profile.local
  test -f

Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:05:51PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013, 09:55:20 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
 append  command:cdto  .profile
  
   
   
  
   3.  Modify /etc/passwd: login_dir == /home/user/.rc
 ==
 
 example:
 wwf:x:1001:1001:Wilko Fokken,,,:/home/wwf/.rc:/bin/bash
  
  So basically you're setting $HOME to be /home/$user/.rc
 
 I would be careful of the side effects this can have.
 
 If applications just work be relative paths, all is well, but some may append 
 $HOME to get an absolute path and then…
 

 Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de


Moin,

the modification of the /etc/passwd entry above should not cause any
problem, as I can't see a reason, why the passwd field containing the
login address should be predefined.

Similarly, why should the location of the $HOME address be predefined?
If so, would a $HOME variable be needed at all?

Besides, I am using my configuration described since about 10 years,
without any side effects observed. My window manager, icewm, wasn't
disturbed either.

The only possible caution, I could think of: I didn't deal with multimedia,
due to my limited hardware in the past and due to my limited interest so
far at present.


Regards

Wilko


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Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:05:51PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013, 09:55:20 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
 append  command:cdto  .profile
  
   
   
  
   3.  Modify /etc/passwd: login_dir == /home/user/.rc
 ==
 
 example:
 wwf:x:1001:1001:Wilko Fokken,,,:/home/wwf/.rc:/bin/bash
  
  So basically you're setting $HOME to be /home/$user/.rc
 
 I would be careful of the side effects this can have.
 
 If applications just work be relative paths, all is well, but some may append 
 $HOME to get an absolute path and then…
 
 -- 
 Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de


PS.

I didn't answer your questioning precisely enough:

It's not me that sets the variable $HOME, it's the entry in '/etc/passwd'.


Wilko


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Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 04:55:55PM +0200, ha wrote:
 Thanks Ralph, I guess it would do it.
 But I didn't plan to separate the conf files completely, I was hoping  
 for a solution more alike Wilko's (if it works).
 After all we all have .config file in our home directory.
 It makes sense that all applications write their conf files there,  
 instead randomly all around home directory. I was hoping for a way to  
 force that.
 I do not know if this is possible, nor how to do it.
 It's funny that /etc is so well organized, but noone cares to do the  
 same with the conf files *for users*.
 ...or is it just me?



Moin mitnanner,

(To ha: My dot files aint collected into one file, but into one subdir)

(Sorry that this post got a bit lenghty, but the bulk of it is comments
and explanations.)


The following lines explain, what should be done in order to get the dot
files out of the way into a subdirectory.

The dot files of root  go into subdir /root/
The dot files of users go into subdir /home/$HOME/.rc/



HowTo get Dot Files into separate Subdirs at Installation Time
==
wfok...@web.de  July 11 2013

( set tabwidth = 4 to view this file )


1.  Modify /etc/skel


[from]:
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   220 Jan  1  2013 .bash_logout
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  3392 Jan  1  2013 .bashrc
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   675 Jan  1  2013 .profile

[to]:
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   220 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.bash_logout
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  3392 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.bashrc
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   675 Jan  1  2013 .rc/.profile


[ these three files in .rc/ need to be edited ] :
-

a)  .bash_logout:
-
# ~/.bash_logout: executed by bash(1) on logout:
# clear screen (here = max. 24 virtual text consoles)
# [ enhance ## of text consoles: add entries in /etc/inittab ] 

case `tty` in
  /dev/tty[1-9] | /dev/tty1[0-9] | /dev/tty2[0-4] ) clear
esac

b)  .bashrc:

# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files

. /etc/profile

c)  .profile:
-

# ~/.profile, at login autoread by all Bourne-compatible shells (after 
/etc/profile)
# ~/.profile is *NOT* executed by bash shell if ~/.bash_profile exists
# All 2nd level bash shells will read ~/.bashrc

# add wanted user owned subdirs,
# (e.g. sh = shell, pl = perl, py = python scripts) :

for DIR in /home/$LOGNAME/bin /home/$LOGNAME/sh /home/$LOGNAME/pl \
/home/$LOGNAME/py; do
[ -d $DIR ]  PATH=$PATH:$DIR
done

PATH=$PATH:.
export PATH PS1 PS2

# mesg y

# 'cd' command (below) moves login `pwd` to  $HOME/.. !
# -
# (applies new bash function 'cd ()')
# (defined in /etc/profile/profile.local)

cd


2.  Within /root, modify .bashrc, .profile :


prepend command:./etc/profile to  .bashrc

append  command:cdto  .profile


3.  Modify /etc/passwd: login_dir == /home/user/.rc
==

example:
wwf:x:1001:1001:Wilko Fokken,,,:/home/wwf/.rc:/bin/bash


4.  /etc/profileAdd call to homebrew /etc/profile.local:

(keeps original condition of /etc/profile)

# 
test -f /etc/profile.local  . /etc/profile.local
test -f ~/.alias.sh . ~/.alias.sh
# 


5.  # /etc/profile.local: Modifications to login process
# ==

# umask 022

# Unclutter root's and user's HOME_dir:
# -
# root:  $HOME = /root $CDHOME = /
# users: $HOME = /home/user/.rc; $CDHOME = /home/user

# cutting off {/root | /.rc} from LOGIN_dir :

CDHOME=`dirname $HOME`

# cd (no params): Go to LOGIN_dir, NOT to LOGIN_dir/.rc :

cd ()  {
[ $1 ]  builtin cd $1 || builtin cd ${CDHOME}
}   

export PATH CDHOME HOME HISTFILE

# = #
# End of functions supporting displaced dot files ! #
==

# (The following lines are NOT directly related to dot files

Re: Dot files, I did get them out of the way

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 04:55:55PM +0200, ha wrote:
 Thanks Ralph, I guess it would do it.
 But I didn't plan to separate the conf files completely, I was hoping  
 for a solution more alike Wilko's (if it works).


Moin mitnanner,

my solutions via shellscripts work pretty well since about ten years. My
question referred to simpler modifications, maybe patching 'bash' or so.

As I just used to copy my modifications to a new installation, I would
need some time in order to prepare my modifications as a useful oversight.

If somebody is interested, I'd give it a try.


Regards

Wilko


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Dot files, get them out of the way

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

As a (private) text prone Debian user, I like having my dot files
out of the way and not stumbling between my working files.

On the other hand, I dislike hiding them by file managers,
because I want to discover them early at possibly wrong places.

So, by fumbling and messing with some shell scripts,
I managed to get my dot files:

into /root for owner root
and
into $HOME/.rc for ordinary users.


My question:

Is there a better way to accomplish this
by a direct changing of the system defaults?


Thanks for your sugestions

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Re: howto enlarge graphical pdf file for ease of printout reading

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:57:08PM +0200, Winfried Boxleitner wrote:

 pdfimages ... extracts images from pdf-files (package: poppler-utils)

 pdfnup   ... is normally used to print several pages onto one sheet of paper, 
 however
 it has a scaling option, which allows to enlarge pdf-documents (package: 
 texlive-extra-utils)

 regards
 winfried


Thanks for your hints.

I'll test them later after finishing my Wheezy installation.


Regards
Wilko

PS.
My German post went wrong due to a bad header in my '/etc/mail_aliases'


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grafische pdf-Datei vergrößert drucken

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

ich habe mir aus den USA ein von Google gescanntes Buch mit deutscher
Frakturschrift geladen: Eine große pdf-Datei, die über hundert Buchseiten
enthält. Das Buch hat etwa DIN-A5-Größe, so daß im Landscape-Format zwei
Buchseiten auf ein DIN-A4-Blatt gedruckt werden können.

Für ältere Bekannte würde ich aber gerne eine Buchseite auf ein DIN-A4-
Blatt mit entsprechend vergrößerter Schrift drucken. Das ist mir bislang
nicht gelungen, da die Frakturschrift nur als reine Grafik vorliegt. Auch
wenn ich nur eine Seite pro DIN A4-Blatt drucke, bleibt die Schrift klein,
mit entsprechend vergrößertem weißen Randbereich.

Mit 'evince' kann ich das Buch auf dem Bildschirm betrachten, auch gezoomt;
und mit 'pdfseparate' könnte ich jede Buchseite einzeln abspeichern.

Kennt jemand ein Programm, mit dem ich den Schriftbereich einer Buchseite
grafisch ausschneiden und dann vergrößert auf DIN-A4 ausdrucken kann?


Gruß Wilko



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Mail von ipad enthält VCard-Datei (Endung .vcf)

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

gibt es bereits unter Lenny ein geeignetes Betrachtungsprogramm?


Die datei.vcf enthält u.a. folgende Kennungen:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:3.0
PRODID:-//Apple Inc.//iOS 6.1.3//EN
...
PHOTO;ENCODING=b;TYPE=JPEG:...
...
IMPP;X-SERVICE-TYPE=Facebook;type=pref:xmpp:Name des Absenders
END:VCARD
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

(Vermutlich enthält diese mir per Mail zugesendete Datei ein Foto.)


Da ich im Begriff bin, auf einem anderen Rechner Wheezy zu installieren,
bin ich auch für Hinweise zu dieser neueren Debian-Version dankbar.


Gruß Wilko

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Program to display Mail, sent from ipad (VCard) = file.vcf

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

could such a file already be displayed under Lenny?

Here are the Ingredients of the 'file.vcf' to be displayed:
(this file is probably containing a photography)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:3.0
PRODID:-//Apple Inc.//iOS 6.1.3//EN
...
PHOTO;ENCODING=b;TYPE=JPEG:...
...
IMPP;X-SERVICE-TYPE=Facebook;type=pref:xmpp:name of sender
END:VCARD
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

As I am about to install Wheezy on another computer,
I am interested in programs available in Wheezy as well.


Thanks for your help,

regards Wilko


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Re: cron jobs to restart a shell process ...

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 01:07:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
 ~
  Sometimes I need to start a long running process which for various reasons 
 may
 be stopped (server drops connection, OS kills it, ...) and I would like to 
 have
 a somewhat automatic mechanism to check if it was stopped and, in that case,
 restart it (of course, with a new process id)
 ~
  This is what I have in mind:
 ~
  1) run an initial script to set up the context of the long running process,
 which, of course, will be specific, but the communication between 1) and 2) is
 just trough a regular protocolled file (I try to make my code as compatible as
 possible and pipes and other forms of interprocess comm tend to be very OS
 specific).
 ~
  2) a second general script which based on 1) and the id of the running 
 process
 just checks if process is running and restarts it in the case it
 isn't, based on:
 ~
  2.1) a lock file named after some identifying metadata regarding 1), and
 ~
  2.2) containing the current/last process id.
 ~
  3) insert a line in your crontab file, to run 2)
 ~
  You can check if a process is running by pars-, greping ps aux's output and
 simply go monkey to finish some working script, but I am sure those needs 
 aren't
 just mine and there should be either a flag for cron jobs, a utility, or some
 best practices out there I don't know of. In fact, do you know of best 
 practices
 for max data processing (I am talking here about jobs that may take days)


A 'crontab' example, controlling the online time of my modem
(my providers switch cheap and very expansive fees at certain hours)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/usr/lsh:/usr/lbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin

# m h dom mon dow   command
# -

# IF online through script 'ip-Tele2', then shutdown modem every 2 hours
# (at minute 57, run script 'ring-bell'; at minute 59, run 'poff')  (weekdays)

57 0-22/2* * 1-5 pidof pppd  ps -o command -C ip-Tele2  ring-bell 3
59 0-22/2* * 1-5 pidof pppd  ps -o command -C ip-Tele2  poff  
/dev/null


# IF stub file: 'ip-stop' exists, then shutdown modem ('poff')  (daily, every 
hour)
# (at minute 57, run script 'ring-bell'; at minute 59, run 'poff')  (7 days)

57 0-23  * * 0-6 [ -f /tmpp/stub/crontab/ip-stop ]  pidof pppd  
ring-bell 3
59 0-23  * * 0-6 [ -f /tmpp/stub/crontab/ip-stop ]  pidof pppd  poff  
rm /tmpp/stub/crontab/ip-stop

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hope this gives some helpful clue.

Moin W.F.

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Re: command isn't working in crontab

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 01:35:04AM +0200, Tomas Hulata wrote:
 Hello, below command works in command line but not as a cronjob can  
 someone explain me why?

 23 58  * * *   rootcd /some_path/;mkdir CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv  
 ./CAM1/*.* ./CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/;mkdir CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv  
 ./CAM2/*.* ./CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/

 I want to move files from /some_path/CAM1 directory to directory called  
 CAM1-'today date' and the  same for /some_path/CAM2 directory

Dealing with 'crontab', I used the following time/date sequence:

 minutes  hours  day-of-month  month  day-of-week
 --

In your example, you started with hours, followed by minutes.

I hope, my sequence indicated above might work for you.


(Have a nice cron)

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Re: Redhat marketing campaign going after free Linuxes

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17:56AM -0400, shawn wilson wrote:
 first, i love statistics - it allows people to say pretty much
 whatever they want and sound honest and scientific about it.


Statistics are like bikinis:

What they unveil
is revealing,
but what they conceal
is pivotal.

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Re: Alternative to tar?

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin,

'/bin/afio' is another interesting tool compared to 'tar', though it might
not compress better.

It's main advantage is: It compresses each file separately and then adds
it to the archive. This means that a data corruption will only cause data
losses of the files affected, but won't render the whole archive useless.

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Re: sc, i.e., spread sheet calculator using ncurses

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 01:29:15PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
 Does anyone use sc, the text based spreadsheet program? 

Hi,

(Not a precise answer to your question):


I remember 'slsc', a text based spreadsheet, based on 'sc', but more
advanced. Unfortunately, Debian doesn't contain it any more.

At least up to Debian 3, this prog was provided.

If you can find an 'slsc' source, you might be instrumental in
bringing it back to life. You'll probably prefer it to 'sc'.

I never saw a manpage or other manual, but I remember the menu
at the top opened on hitting '/'.


Good luck!

Wilko

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Re: sc, i.e., spread sheet calculator using ncurses

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 08:33:52PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 01:29:15PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
  Does anyone use sc, the text based spreadsheet program? 
 
 Hi,
 
 (Not a precise answer to your question):
 
 
 I remember 'slsc', a text based spreadsheet, based on 'sc', but more
 advanced. Unfortunately, Debian doesn't contain it any more.
 
 At least up to Debian 3, this prog was provided.
 
 If you can find an 'slsc' source, you might be instrumental in
 bringing it back to life. You'll probably prefer it to 'sc'.
 
 I never saw a manpage or other manual, but I remember the menu
 at the top opened on hitting '/'.
 
 
I found a tar source of slsc:

http://mirror.safehostnet.com/debian-archive/debian/dists/potato/main/source/math/


 Good luck!
 
 Wilko

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Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:50:33PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:

 I live in a very remote rural area, so dialup is my only option.
 Someone else suggested wvdial, which works and is good, but I prefer 
 to use pppconfig to create the connection, pon/poff to start/end it, 
 and pppstatus so I can see how many curse words and which ones are 
 appropriate when waiting for things to download. 
 
  Indulekha 

Moin,

I am living the same way in rural Germany.

With Lenny, using 'pppconfig', I am having no problems with dialup
connections, except:

 After running 'pppconfig' to install a new dialup connection to a
 provider, I need to enter the directory

/etc/ppp/peers/

 and have to change the group of my new dialup entries to 'dip':

chown root:dip provider




Unfortunately, I can't find a provider anymore, who provides a constant
dialup connection: They all switch their connection parameters regularly,
so that a cheap dialup connection suddenly turns into a altered connection
with costs up to 15 cents/min.

Therefore I wrote some shell scripts in order to protect myself from
monetary hassle relying on data given under

 www.teltarif.de


As my shell scripts qualify as private-alpha, I put just a few lines
here to give an overview of actual cheap German dialup connections:

#
#! /bin/sh

# Get an overview of cheap dialup connections in Germany from www.teltarif.de
# ---
# (Note: requires an already working internet access)

# (dialup connection online?)
if [ -f /var/run/ppp0.pid ]; then
wget -q -O - www.teltarif.de/db/res-inet.html?zs=jetzt | \
html2text -nobs | tee /tmp/teltarif-all.txt

cat /tmp/teltarif.txt | cut -d\  -f2-  /tmp/teltarif.cut

recode lat1..UTF-8 /tmp/tel*

clear
head -n 100 /tmp/teltarif-all.txt | tail -n 36; echo
ls -l /tmp/teltarif-all.txt

else
echo
echo No dialup connection online
echo
fi
#



Good Lucks, Germans!

(or you pays your bucks, Hermann)


Greetings, Wilko

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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:57:38PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote:
..
 Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see 
 what's going on.

Should'nt it be written:

run dmesg | tail -f  ?


Gruß Wilko


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Re: New computer planned -- (cleaning old keyboard)

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 02:19:36PM +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
 Maybe I should keep the keyboard I am using.
 It's not overly clean, but I can live with it.

 --
 Sian Mountbatten
 Algol 68 specialist


Moin mitnanner,


  How to clean a dirty (fatty) keyboard:
  --

Mix liquid ammonia concentrate (NH4-OH) + cold (!) water in a bucket;
hold your keyboard with them keys down (!) above the bucket;

use a softly scrubbing brush (horse hair = less sqirting) wetted w/ mixture
and brush the keys from underneath, moving brush softly along their gaps;

keep the keyboard upside down, so the cleaning agent will not enter any
keyboard contact, and put the keyboard on a warm place in order to get all
water w/ ammonia completely evaporated.

(Ammonia itself won't leave any residue.)


Good luck!


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Re: something regards find

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On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:04:31PM +0800, lina wrote:
 Hi,

 I don't know how to find one file out,

 one file contains some numbers, like

 7.9 2.4 4.2 12.2 and etc

 I can't remember the file name. I tried:

 $ grep -e 7.9 -e 2.4 -e 4.2 -e 12.2 */*

 $ grep -e 7.9 -e 2.4 -e 4.2 -e 12.2 */*/*


How about using locate 7.9 ?

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Re: which is the best command to use

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 08:57:55PM +0800, lina wrote:
 Hi,

 I have two questions, wish to get advice,

 Question 1:

 For a series of files:

 cat  a_*.o* | grep WARNING

 some file like a_1.o12 has WARNING, but others does not have WARNING

 How can I let grep returns the filename?


try grep -H
in order to get the filename.

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Re: bootmisc.sh

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:10:11AM +, Balint Szigeti wrote:

 I found this

 *:  */var/run/utmp

 in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh on Debian 6.0.3

 Can you explain what does  :   mean?

 Thank you
 Balint

my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh

shows these lines:

...

# Create /var/run/utmp so we can login.
:  /var/run/utmp

...




A trial in my home dir

:  oo

creates an empty file rsp. puts a non-empty file to zero size

It seems to do the same as a manually keyed command:

 oo

(I didn't check whether a difference would turn out within a script.)


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Re: something regards find

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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:42:36PM +0100, pedro insua wrote:
 On 4 January 2012 12:19, Wilko Fokken wfok...@web.de wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:04:31PM +0800, lina wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I don't know how to find one file out,
 
  one file contains some numbers, like
 
  7.9 2.4 4.2 12.2 and etc
 
  I can't remember the file name. I tried:
 
  $ grep -e 7.9 -e 2.4 -e 4.2 -e 12.2 */*
 
  $ grep -e 7.9 -e 2.4 -e 4.2 -e 12.2 */*/*


   I think .. is about files content, not file name.
 

Maybe this one? :

find . -type f -name *7.9* -exec grep -H . {} \;

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Re: Debian: A noob query

[Wilko Fokken]

Hello Sam,

(some postings above, you mentioned having but 2 GB RAM.)

It is said that, for a 64bit system, one should have at
least 4 GB RAM installed.


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Re: kill pidof question

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:27:17AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 I frequently have to kill iceape - it locks up on some images.
 
 Of course the command pidof iceape-bin will return the pid to standard
 output and I can then use this information to kill the program.
 Certainly it must be possible to combine these steps into a single
 command line but my efforts to do so have all failed.  Would some pro at
 scripting please set me straight?
 
 Tom
 

(from my old scripts, I found these lines:)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
if [ -z `pidof iceape-bin` ]; then  ## (returned zero)
echo IceApe not running
fi

...

if [ -n `pidof iceape-bin` ]; then  ## (returned non-zero)
echo IceApe is running
fi
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 


hope this might improve your control

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Re: Laptop, erweiterter Textmodus

[Wilko Fokken]

...

 In der Kernel-Doku 
 findest Du dann Kernel-Parameter, die Du dem Kernel bei booten mitgeben 
 kannst um den Framebuffer einzuschalten.
 
 Gruß Chris
 
Erst einmal danke, Chris,
in '/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.4.27/Documentation/fb/' findet sich
sogar eine Doku über einen Trident-driver, der vielleicht zu meiner
Grafikkarte paßt.

Sobald ich etwas mehr durchgehende Zeit habe, werde ich zumindest den
Vesa-driver mit meinem LiLo ausprobieren.

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Laptop, erweiterter Textmodus

[Wilko Fokken]

Moin mitnanner,

ich habe auf meinem alten Aldi-Laptop LT9888 aus dem Jahr 1998 Debian
Sarge installiert. Dabei vermisse ich einen erweiterten Textmodus, der
den ganzen Bildschirm ausfüllt, wie ich das unter Knoppix gesehen habe.

Da ich wegen Krankenpflege wenig Zeit habe, bitte ich zumindest um
Einstiegshinweise, z.B. ob ich einen neuen Kernel kompilieren muß, vor
allem aber, unter welcher Debian-Rubrik ich diesem Problem nachgehen
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Sarge auf Notebook (Medion LT9888 / 1998) installieren

[Wilko Fokken]

Meinen Gruß zuvor.

Mein Versuch, von woody nach sarge umzusteigen, hat mich gelinde
erschüttert; während frühere Debian-Versionen: potato, woody zumindest
zur Installation hochliefen, enden meine Versuche sowohl mit sarge als
auch mit Knoppix oder Ubuntu anscheinend bei der Hardware-Erkennung.

Nur Kanotix 3.2 erwies sich mir als rühmliche Ausnahme: Den 6er Kernel
kann ich mit der Installationsvariante Failsafe problemlos installieren,
wenn ich den Bootparameter 'nopcmcia' beibehalte; 'nodma' und 'nosound'
kann ich jedoch ohne Nachteil aus der Parameter-Liste entfernen.

Weiß jemand hier Rat?

Zur Not werde ich versuchen, Kanotix auf die Festplatte zu kopieren und mit
testing-Paketen von Debian zu ergänzen.

Eine weitere Frage: Mein Notebook besitzt nur ein CD- , kein DVD-Laufwerk;
gibt es DVD-Laufwerke, die man anstelle des CD-Laufwerkes nachrüsten kann?


Für Hilfe bin ich sehr dankbar

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Sarge installieren mit Boot-/Root-/Treiber-Disketten + LAN-Server-DVD

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Moin mitnanner,
123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12
wie kann ich auf meinem alten Laptop (Medion LT-9888 mit 20 GB HD) von
einer DVD im LAN-Rechner Sarge installieren?
Ich habe die 3 neuesten Images (boot.img, root.img, net-drivers.img) auf
3 Disketten übertragen, die MD5-Summen sind in Ordnung.
Zwischen meinem LAN-Server (Sarge)und meinem Laptop (noch Woody)
funktionieren bislang ssh, ftp und nfs. Solange mein LAN-Server online
ist, habe ich auch auf meinem Laptop Zugang zum Internet, die Gateway-
Funktion des LAN-Servers funktioniert.
Mein Laptop startet mit den 3 Disketten normal, aber das angebotene Menü
bietet nur eine Liste offizieller Debian-Spiegel an, alternativ kann ich
eine Internet-Adresse händisch eintragen, und genau hier komme ich nicht
weiter. Den Menüs kann ich auch nicht ansehen, mit welchen Parametern die
zu installierenden Debian-Pakete gesucht werden. Nicht einmal 'ping' ist
auf den Disketten verfügbar.
Für einen Rat bin ich sehr dankbar, da ich mir zu meiner vorhandenen DVD
nicht noch zusätzliche CDs kaufen möchte, bevor Sarge stable wird.
(Da ich meine Mutter pflege, kann ich nur eine begrenzte Zeit im Internet
nach weiteren Lösungen suchen.)
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Re: welches ist das passendes IDE Modul

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On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 12:34:42PM +0200, Frank Dietrich wrote:
 
 Es lässt sich bei meiner Festplatte kein DMA aktivieren. Ursache, so
 das andere Thema, wäre ein fehlendes Modul für den Chipsatz.
 Wie bekomme ich heraus was ich da noch in den Kernel einbauen muss?
 
Auch wenn Linux eigene Festplattentreiber verwendet:

Könnte vielleicht eine BIOS-Einstellung DMA-Zugriffe blockieren?

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Re: Restoring /etc/inittab

[Wilko Fokken]

On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 09:09:29AM +0200, Pierg75 wrote:
 Adam Funk wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 May 2004 17:40, Pierg75 wrote:
 Somewhere i read that an alias should never be an alias of itself,
 something like alias rm='rm -i'
 alias ls='ls --color=auto'
 alias rm='rm -vi'
 alias cp='cp -vi'
 alias mv='mv -vi'
 alias cal='cal -3m'  # week starts on Monday
 
 and I'm sure I got this idea from some reputable Unix books.  This way
 rm always asks *except* when you use -f.
 
 It works for sure, because somewhere i use it too.
 I was meaning about the comcept:
 because if you get use of this approach, when you go to work on a 
 machine that doesn't have this alias, immagine what you coul do if you 
 write rm /etc/apache/* because you are sure (or you don't pay 
 attention) that would ask you to confirm.
 Since i read that article (it was on a magazine), i try to don't use 
 this kind of aliases and to pay more attention on what i'm doing.
 


Hello,

within bash, you could use an alternate kind of aliases in order to
circumvent any reentrance problem under a different OS:

alias rm='/bin/rm -vi'
or
alias cd=builtin cd ${CDHOME}

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Re: Nur email-Adresse als Absender = SPAM

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o/o

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Re: Your identity is a mere email address: a SPAM criterion ?

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Re: doppelte Mails

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:50:28PM +0100, Tazze wrote:
 
 warum erhalte ich alle Mails doppelt?
 
Ich hatte schon doppelte Mails, als fetchmail während der Übertragung
abgebrochen wurde (defektes Kabel): 'flush' wurde zwar per übertragener 
Mail angezeigt, jedoch offensichtlich auf dem Server nicht mehr
ausgeführt. Ist ja bei unsicherer Übertragung auch sinnvoll.

Doppelte Mails filtere ich z.B. mit 'grepmail':

grepmail -u old_mailfile  new_mailfile

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Re: Doppelte Mails loeschen

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On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:00:18AM +0100, Jochen Kaechelin wrote:
 Kenn jemand ein Tool mit dem man doppelte
 email löschen kann. Ich kenne diese Funktion aus TheBat (Win!).
 
 Ich hab hier etwas rumgespielt und hab nun eine Unzahl
 an doppelten eMails (2!) in meim Evolution.
 

Vielleicht die einfachste Lösung für eine nachträgliche Korrektur:

grepmail -u  maildatei  bereinigte_maildatei

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Re: Looking for nice, small display manager

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Herewidth testifying: My favorite WM (so far) is 'icewm-gnome'.

It's main assets to me:

- it is small, clean and fast

- it's panel shows up to 3 little graphical squares showing system activities:
a) system load
b) LAN load
c) online load

- Ctrl-ESC (or mouse-Right) shows main menu

- Ctrl-Alt-Left|Right moves easily through my screens
- Ctrl-Alt-1 .. 0 switches to the Nth screen

- Alt-Tab moves through my windows w/in one screen

- a tiny panel icon shows a letter symbol turning green on new mail

On my AMD-100 MHz PC, 128 MB RAM, I extended this WM from 4 to 12
screens in order to separate different activities more easily.


My main drawback: So far, I did not look for a good config program, I
did it manually, mainly by editing the text files in

/etc/X11/icewm/

Icons of newly installed programs (e.g. opera.xpm) should be copied to

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/icons/


The digital panel clock looks a bit ugly to me but does its job.


If anybody knows a usefull configuration program, this nice WM would
sure get some more customers.


moin, Wilko

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Re: Pentium 100Mhz New User

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On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 02:09:58AM +, Tomy Alarie wrote:
 I have a serial mouse type 
 Com-2 or serial. I just want to know which selection im supposed to choose 
 in the xfree86 configuration generated by debconf ?
 

On my Pentium 133 MHz, my cheap 3-key serial mouse
(hardware type  = Mouse Systems) runs well with
following mouse entries in '/etc/XF86Config-4':

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Section ServerLayout
#   ...
InputDeviceSerial Mouse CorePointer
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
Option AllowMouseOpenFail  true
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Serial Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol MouseSystems
Option  Device /dev/ttyS0
Option  SendCoreEvents  true
EndSection
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

(On power-on, I have to keep pressing my left mouse key
for some seconds, in order to switch it's hardware reaction
from microsoft to mouse systems mode.

I prefer running my mouse in Mouse Systems mode,
compared to Microsoft mode, since that way,
I don't need any emulation for operating my
middle mouse key.)

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Re: Pentium mit 166Mhz

[Wilko Fokken]

Auf meinem Rechner mit CPU AMD k5 (100 MHz = Pentium 133 MHz) läuft
Debian woody locker, auch unter X mit icewm, und das noch mit einer
uralten ISA-Grafikkarte (ET4000/W32, 1 MHz RAM). Allerdings habe ich
den Rechner auf 64 MB Arbeitsspeicher aufgerüstet (noch besser ginge es
ab 96 MB, wenn man den Swap gegen Null bringen möchte).

(Die aktuelle Knoppix-CD von c't konnte ich allerdings erst sicher
installieren, als ich (unter hdparm) den dma-Modus für meine CD
abgestellt hatte. Bei meinem alten 486 mußte ich meine alten 3
Festplatten durch eine einzige frische ersetzen, bevor ich (nach
Diskettenstart mit boot.img) von der CD installieren konte.)

Meine Debian-CDs (auch Knoppix) bestellte ich übrigens das letzte Mal
bei:

http://linuxcdversand.de

und bin erfreulich preiswert bedient worden. Z.B. gibt es Debian 3.0r2
mit 7 CDs für 13,- Euro plus Versand - oder die ersten 3 CDs für 7 E.
Diese Mitteilung gebe ich hier ohne geschäftliche Interessen zum besten.


Ein Download von Debian aus dem Internet scheidet für mich mit meinem
Modem aus; aber selbst mit DSL (geht bei mir aufgrund ländlicher
Entfernungen nicht) könnten Zusatzkosten entstehen, wenn ein
Installationsversuch vielleicht mal schiefgeht.


Glück de mit

Wilko


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Re: webmin

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 03:40:27PM +0100, Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Am Samstag, 24. Januar 2004 13:27 schrieb Christian Schmidt:
  Hallo Wilko,
 ...
 Was hast Du gegen Yast, Du mußt es doch nicht benutzen. 
 Ich nehme es gerne für die schnelle Einrichtung und mache dann, wenn nötig, 
 das Finetuning von Hand; ist doch auch eine Möglichkeit von vielen ;-)
 
Yast habe ich seit Ewigkeiten nicht mehr benutzt, da ich das Wagnis der
Fröhlichen Wissenschaft für den Sprung von SuSE nach Debian
instrumentalisiert habe, für mich ein Befreiungsakt, bei dem mir ein
Schwein vom Herzen fiel.

Der Vorteil von Yast, dem unbedarften Anwender erst einmal ein
brauchbares Linux hinzustellen, wurde zumindest vor Jahren durch eine
ungeheure zentrale Konfigurationsdatei erkauft, die den armen Rechner
bei jedem kleinsten Konfigurationsfurz fürchterlich zum Rödeln brachte,
weil er jedesmal das gesamte System durchhecheln mußte. Diese zentrale,
durch ihre schiere Größe schon sehr unübersichtliche Konfigurationsdatei
verdeckte vor dem Anwender, welche Einträge denn nun tatsächlich in den
Linux-Konfigurationsdateien vorgenommen wurden, so daß der Anwender
ziemlich im Hemd saß, wenn es mit Yast eimal nicht mehr klappte.

Was ich begrüßen würde, ist eine Live-Dokumentation der tatsächlichen
Systemeinträge, wenn ich in einer einheitlichen Konfigurationsoberfläche
einen Menüpunkt auch nur probeweise an- bzw. abklicke - dabei sollten
die tatsächlichen Änderungen an den Systemdateien erst am Ende der
Sitzung nach entsprechenden Sicherheitsabfragen vorgenommen werden, wenn
nicht ausdrücklich anders gewünscht.

Die hilfreichsten Menüprogramme sind m.E. jene, die dem Anwender die
Einsicht in die tatsächlichen Systemvorgänge nicht verdecken, sondern
erleichtern. Ich vermute, daß das Prinzip, einen angeklickten Menüpunkt
über eine zugeordnete Datenbank in Systemeinträge zu übersetzen, in
weiten Bereichen der Linux-Systemkonfiguration ziemlich gleichartig
aussieht, so daß ein Projekt dieser Art möglicherweise mit weniger
Aufwand zu verwirklichen ist, wenn es gelingen sollte, einen zentralen
Menüverarbeiter zu programmieren, auf den dann rel. kleine Teilmodule
für die unterschiedlichsten Konfigurationsbereiche, wie Drucker,
Mail, Hardware usw. zugreifen könnten, so daß man nicht bis zum
Sankt. Nimmerleinstag warten müßte, bis alles fertig ist, sondern
schon früh dem Anwender zur Hand gehen kann, sobald die ersten
Teilmodule stehen.

Die prinzipielle Einfachheit eines derartigen Menüprojektes könnte eine
weitgehende Parallelisierung bei der Programmierung der Teilmodule
erlauben, sobald der zentrale Menüverarbeiter fertiggestellt und in
seinen inneren Funktionen allgemein verstanden ist.

Summa: Yast ist ein zudeckendes Verfahren der Menükonfiguration, der
hier angedachte Entwurf einer weitgehend allgemeingültigen Linux-
Konfiguration bedeutete für den Anwender ein aufdeckendes Verfahren, das
einen schnellstmöglichen Erkenntnisgewinn anstrebt.

(Leider habe ich, auch aufgrund meiner pflegebedürftigen Mutter, mit
meinen über 60 Lenzen nicht die geistige Kapazität, den Teufel, der
immer im Detail steckt, genügend wirksam zu verteiben.)


BFN  Wilko

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Re: Server-Update von 2.2.* auf 2.4.23 oder 2.4.24?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 01:26:41AM +0100, Thorsten Gowik wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:53:33PM +0100, Uwe Kerstan wrote:
 [...blablub]
  Weil Codeteile in den Kernel gewandert sind.
 
 Willst du nun einen Server oder eine Workstation mit Server
 ähnlichen Funktionalitäten betreiben?
 

Moin Mijnheer,

verschärfte Fragen wie diese kosten mehr Leseaufwand als ihre Ursache,
die ein Nichtinteressierter leicht überliest. (Sie finden sich auf
deutschen Mailing-Listen häufiger als auf englischen.)

Andere haben dagegen plötzlich ein gutes Aha-Erlebnis und vermeiden
vielleicht von vornherein, langwierig mit alsa im Clinch zu liegen.

Kumpelment in't köken

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Re: webmin

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:18:39PM +0100, Christian Schmidt wrote:
 Hallo Klaus,
 
 Klaus Becker, 20.01.2004 (d.m.y):
 
  Also meine Frage: ist webmin für den Otto-Normalverbraucher mit einem einzigen 
  PC sinnvoll oder nicht ?
 
 Verstehst Du irgendetwas denn besser, wenn Du es in ein Webinterface
 anstatt direkt in eine Konfigurationsdatei eintragen kannst?
 

Moin mitnanner,

'webmin' kenne ich nicht, aber ein zentrales Konfigurationsprogramm,
das ähnlich arbeitet wie z.B. 'bootstrap' während der Installation,
das aber JEDERZEIT aufs Neue aufgerufen werden kann, würde manchem
Anfänger den Einstieg in Debian bedeutend erleichtern, WENN es zugleich
in einer Logdatei UND in einem zweiten Bildschirm genau dokumentiert,
welchen Eintrag es in welche Linux-Konfigurationsdatei vornimmt, wenn
ein Menüpunkt angekreuzt wird.

Man brauchte dann nur interessierende Punkte probeweise anzukreuzen und
bekäme sofort den Hinweis auf dem zweiten Bildschirm, was dies für einen
Eintrag in welche Systemdatei bewirken würde - vielleicht sogar mit
erläuterndem Kommentar; parallel dazu könnte man dann sogleich die
entsprechende Dokumentation studieren.

Mehrstufiges Undo (auch über Boot-Parameter zu aktivieren, um ein
zerschossenes System wieder in den vorigen Stand zu versetzen) würde
ein freieres Experimentieren gestatten, um die Wirkungen von weniger
bekannten Einträgen auf das System zu studieren.

Da die verschiedenen Menüfunktionen eines solchen Programmes einander
weitgehend ähneln, brauchte man es nicht einmal unbedingt in einem Stück
zu programmieren, es könnte auch aus mehreren gleichartig
funktionierenden Teilprogrammen bestehen, z.B. ein Programm zur
Druckerkonfiguration, ein anderes für die Vernetzung usw.

Eine solche übersichtliche Möglichkeit der Systemkonfiguration dürfte
die Lernkurve eines nur normal begabten Anwenders beträchtlich steiler
gestalten; er erfährt schneller, was überhaupt zu konfigurieren ist,
welche Systemdateien dazu jeweils zu edieren sind und was diese Einträge
bewirken sollen.

Nichts überwindet Fremdes besser als erklärte Beispiele.
 

Holt joe fuchtig

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Re: Verzeichnisse kopieren

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 05:55:53PM +0100, Ruediger Noack wrote:
 Peter Kuechler wrote:
 Aber ein mv für ein Backup ist ja auch recht ungewöhnlich, oder?
 
 Immerhin hat man dann gleichzeitig gründlich aufgeräumt. Wann kommt man 
 sonst schon dazu? *SCNR*
 
Ich meine mich zu entsinnen, daß (auf meinem alten 133er Pentium)
ein 'mv' bedeutend länger dauerte als ein 'cp' oder 'tar' mit
anschließendem 'mkfs' auf der alten, ausgehängten Partition.

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Re: Is swen back?

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:16:02PM +, duck wrote:
 
  Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
  way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. I really
  don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them
  right afterwards :-)
 
 mailfilter is good for filtering out swen and the like. I have set it to
 delete all messages over 146888K on this email account (this is not my
 main account, so I don't expect to receive large attachments here anyway).
 
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Re: hdparm questions

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 09:47:37AM +0100, David Baron wrote:
 No, this is not being run on Debian startup. Editing either /etc/default/
 hdparm or (I made a) /etc/hdparm.conf has not effect.
 
 Where does one fine hwtools? apt-get did not work.
 
 How might one add and a script  /etc/rc#/hdparm? (Just take one of the other, 
 leave the preambles and simply do hdparm?)
 
Hello David,

I find the Debian packages hwtools and hdparm on my Debian cdroms.

With hdparm, you can adjust the performance of your hd's and cdrom's.

With hwtools, you get the program 'irqtune', allowing you to reorder
the priority of your system's irq's; simply running '/usr/sbin/irqtune'
will optimize serial line performance (for internet connections) without
impairing your IDE-performance.

On my private system, I wrote '/etc/init.d/hdparm.sh' containing just a
single command:
. /etc/default/hdparm.sh

('chown root:root hdparm.sh'  'chmod 0755 hdparm.sh')

within '/etc/rcS.d', I set a single calling link:
'ln ../init.d/hdparm.sh S05hdparm.sh'

(no stop command required at shutdown)


The real shell script 'hdparm.sh' I put into '/etc/default/', in order
to have my basic system configuration combined within one directory.


The following shows my shell script '/etc/default/hdparm.sh';
(old motherboard with two year old HD's; your optimization may vary):


## (Begin of shell script):

# hdparm.sh Tune harddisc + cdrom   \wwf 14.5.03
#
#   This prog should be called early from /etc/rcS.d

# Common Params for both HDs
/sbin/hdparm -A1 -c1 -d1 -X34 -k1 -m16 -u1 -S192 /dev/hda /dev/hdb

# Params for CDROM
/sbin/hdparm -c1 -d1 -X34 -k1 -u1 /dev/hdc

# Some params briefly explained:
# - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
# -A1   = set drive read-lookahead
# -c1   = set IDE 32-bit IO setting
# -d1   = set using_dma flag
# -X34  = select multiword DMA mode2
# -k1   = keep_settings_over_reset flag
# -m16  = set multiple sector count (hdparm -i - MaxMultSect=16)
# -u1   = set unmaskirq flag
# -S192 = set spindown timeout = 192 * 5 sec == 16 min

## (End of shell script)

Good luck

Wilko


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Re: cfdisk vs fdisk speaking of Western Digital drives...

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0500, Andy Firman wrote:
 
 Hello.  I am not a hard drive expert and need some help in 
 understanding a few things.
 
 First, what is the difference between fdisk and cfdisk,
 other cfdisk being curses based?
 

I read somewhere that 'cfdisk' should be better in defining partition
borders fitting to those virtual cylinders and sectors of IDE drives.

With my 8 years old computer, I found following the Win95 FDISK by
cfdisk in order to partition the rest of my drives for Linux to be less
error-prone than working with fdisk.

I forgot the details, but with fdisk, I ran into some error messages
concerning partition borders, even writing errors from Linux partitions
into Windows partitions or so.  Unfortunately, I can't give more
details, but I would suggest using fdisk and, if troubles should show
up, especially in combination with other OSs, try cfdisk. 

W. Fokken

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Re: xsession

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 10:55:17PM +0100, Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:07:49 +0100
 Torsten Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 09:40:28PM +0100, Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle wrote:
  
   Hab beides schon versucht ... auch andere schon eingesetzt, wie fvwm2,
   ion etc. ... nix hilft.
  
  Und mal .xinitrc probiert?
 
 Nee ... parallel oder an Stelle von .xsession?
 
 Raimund
 

Bei mir: globale Einstellung in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc:
(keine ~/.xinitrc, keine ~/.xsession)
---
#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $

# /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
#
# global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx)

# . ~/.profile
# read user's personal config for NON-login shell
. ~/.bashrc

# invoke global X session script
# . /etc/X11/Xsession

# export LC_ALL='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

# start specified window manager
exec icewm-gnome
---


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Re: Fonts?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:32:33AM -0800, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
 Wilko Fokken wrote:
 
 Hallo Manuel,
 
 bislang hatte ich
  '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType'
 als Link auf das Verzeichnis meiner Win95-Fonts gesetzt, ohne wirklich
 zu wissen, ob diese überhaupt unter X verwendet werden.
 
 Sieht man recht leicht z.B. mit xfontsel, da sollte dann unter fndry 
 micorsoft geben.
 
 Das obige Debian-Paket mit den TrueType-Fonts konnte ich zwar lokal
 abspeichern, aber der genannte Befehl
  'dpkg -i /.../msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb'
 
 Das sollten bestimmt nur 2 Punkte werden oder?
 
Nein, es sollte ein beliebiges lokales Verzeichnis angeben, in das ich
das 'msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb'-Paket nach dem Download abgespeichert
hatte, um es nicht bei jedem Installationsversuch erneut aus dem
Internet laden zu müssen.

 gelang nicht sauber, obwohl ich den genannten Link gelöscht und durch
 ein normales Verzeichnis
  '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType'
 ersetzt hatte.
 
 Nimm das Verzeichnis mal weg.

(s.o.)

 ... 
 Zudem war das eingerichtete 'TrueType'-Verzeichnis hinterher gelöscht;
 
 Ich weiss im Moment nicht wie das mit dem Paket aussieht, aber 
 eigentlich macht das auch nichts weiter als die gepackten Font's 
 runterladen und dann nach /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType extrahieren.
 
Offenbar löscht es zumindest auch noch das genannte Verzeichnis
auf Deubel komm raus: Es läßt sich davon nicht einmal abhalten, wenn
dieses mein current working directory ist. Ein entsprechender
händischer Löschversuch eines besetzten Verzeichnisses würde
abgewiesen werden.

 Allerdings hat M$ mittlerweile die Font's von der Webseite genommen, 
 soweit ich weiss kriegt man sie aber an anderen Stellen noch. Ich weiss 
 aber nicht ob das Paket auch entsprechend geaendert wurde.
 
Nach meiner Kenntnis sollten diese Fonts ja im genannten deb-Paket
enthalten sein, das ich (mit Dank für die URL-Angabe in diesem Thread)
aus dem Internet geladen und lokal abgespeichert habe (s.o.).

 Von wo du das Paket installierst ist total egal.
 
(s.o.)

 In meiner /etc/X11/XF86Config habe ich die zu benutzenden Fonts wie
 folgt aufgeführt:
 
 Ist das dein Ernst? Dann hast du noch X11 Version 3.X? Mach erstmal ein 
 Upgrade auf 4.x, oder installiere einen Fontserver. Denn Xfree86 3.x 
 kann nicht von Haus aus mit Truetype fonts umgehen.
 
Hier meine ich, irgendwo erfahren zu haben, daß die Version 4.x von X11
entweder mit meiner uralten Grafikkarte (Tseng ET4000) nicht mehr
umgeht oder daß dort kein SVGA-Treiber wie unter Version 3.x mehr läuft.

Sollte ich mich irren, wäre ich für entsprechende Hinweise besonders
dankbar, dann würde ich sofort auf die Version 4.x umsteigen. (Ich gebe
zu bedenken, daß genau hier auch ein Versuch mit Knoppix fehlgeschlagen
ist.)

  ...
 
 Wenn du nen Fontserver installierst weil du dein X11 nicht upgraden 
 willst, guck in die Doku wie du die TT-Dirs dem Server bekant machst.
 
Mit Fontserver ist 'xfstt' gemeint, oder gibt es Weiterungen?

 Wenn du X11 4.X installierst: Fuer eine Zeile mit 
 /ust/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType hinzu und erzeuge einen Link auf deine W95 
 Fonts als /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType. Dann musst du aber glaub ich dort 
 noch die fonts.dir erzeugen, das geht fuer TT-Fonts indem du erst 
 ttmkfdir und dann mkfontdir in dem Verzeichnis ausfuehrst.
 
  ...
 
 Wie gesagt ohne Fontserver oder neueres X11 gibts keine TT-Fonts.
 
 Andreas
 
An meiner uralten Grafikkarte hänge ich, weil sie mir nicht nur unter X
eine brauchbare 1024x768 Grafik liefert, sondern weil sie darüberhinaus
SVGA-compatibel ist, so daß sie im Text-Modus unter 'SVGATextMode' mit
der Einstellung 'DefaultMode 100x37x9_SVGA' sehr schnelle, brilliante
Texte mit max. 37 Zeilen und 100 Spalten anzeigt, was mir besonders
unter 'mc' und 'mutt' die Übersicht erleichtert und in Programmen auf
der rechten Seite einen bedeutend größeren Freiraum für kurze
Erläuterungen läßt, die nicht durch erzwungene Zusatzzeilen die
Code-Übersicht zerhacken.

(Ich hatte mit dieser Grafikkarte schon Texte mit 40 Zeilen und 100
Spalten (auch unter Linux) bearbeitet, bevor es 'SVGATextMode' gab, fand
später aber diesen autogenen Text-Modus nicht ganz so brilliant wie den
etwas weniger umfangreichen unter 'SVGATextMode'.)

Sollte jemand einen würdigen Nachfolger für diese PCI-Grafikkarte nennen
können, d.h. eine Karte, die im Textmodus einen vergleichbaren
Darstellungsumfang in guter Brillianz ermöglicht, wäre ich für Hinweise
sehr dankbar, denn der jetzige 1 MB Grafikspeicher arbeitet zwar unter
OpenOffice optisch noch ganz zufriedenstellend, aber bei Bildwechseln
doch langsam genug.

Die PCI-Grafikkarte SiS 6326 läuft leider nicht unter 'SVGATextMode',
ihr autogener 80x34 Text-Modus ist mir weniger interessant, weil der
Linux-Text-Modus (mit bis zu 23 schaltbaren screens) erst bei einer
Zeilenlänge von 100 Zeichen zur flotten, augenschonenden Alternative zum
aufwendigen Grafik-Modus wird.


In Vorfreude auf die weihnachtliche Stille der Nicht-Geschenke

Re: xtree for Linux

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 08:23:25AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Wilko Fokken wrote:
 
 searching  http://de.vivisimo.com  for Linux ytree:
 
 http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/pool/main/y/ytree/
 
 
 ...
 But what were your search terms?
 ...
 Hugo.
 
My search terms were Linux ytree  (see above).

W. Fokken


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Re: [OT] XTree

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 09:28:42AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
 * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031217 19:55]:
...
 No way! xtg was absolutely _indispensible_ in those days.  I don't
 think I ever ran into a PC without it.  Not twice, anyway ;-)  XTree
 still blows the pants off of any dos file manager (*cough* explorer)
 I've had the misfortune of using.
 
 Installing ytree now...
 
 Holy crap, that takes me back!  Awesome!
 
Well, I did like Xtree Gold (xtg) in those days of DOS very much, but,
later, I found the Norton Commander even more convincing, due to it's
duplicated directory display.

In my opinion, this is still the best file handling tool available,
mirrored nowadays by the Midnight Commander ('mc') for Linux (OK, I
still have to compile it myself in order to enable it to recover
deleted ext2 files.)

I am especially lucky with my ancient ET4000 graphic card allowing a
brilliant 'DefaultMode 100x37x9_SVGA' under 'SVGATextMode'.

This greatly enhances my files display under 'mc' or 'ytree', and adds
space to the right side of program texts, where lots of minor comments
can be added without having to insert extra commenting lines, so that
viewing the code text remains less disturbed.


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Re: Fonts?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 09:14:50PM +0100, manuel wrote:
 saug dir einfach
 http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/mirrors/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb
 
 und installier es mit
 dpkg -i msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb
 
 könnte sein das du noch das packet cabextract installieren musst
 
 Gruß
 Manuel
 

Hallo Manuel,

bislang hatte ich
'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType'
als Link auf das Verzeichnis meiner Win95-Fonts gesetzt, ohne wirklich
zu wissen, ob diese überhaupt unter X verwendet werden.

Das obige Debian-Paket mit den TrueType-Fonts konnte ich zwar lokal
abspeichern, aber der genannte Befehl
'dpkg -i /.../msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb'
gelang nicht sauber, obwohl ich den genannten Link gelöscht und durch
ein normales Verzeichnis
'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType'
ersetzt hatte.

(cabextract ist installiert.)

Ich erhielt folgende Rückmeldung:

(Reading database ... 133757 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace msttcorefonts 1.1.3 (using
.../msttcorefonts_1.1.3_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement msttcorefonts ...
Setting up msttcorefonts (1.1.3) ...
...
/usr/sbin/update-fonts-scale: warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
does not exist or is not a directory.
All fonts downloaded and installed.


Zudem war das eingerichtete 'TrueType'-Verzeichnis hinterher gelöscht;
sogar als ich (als root) in dieses TrueType-Verzeichnis hineinging und
von dort aus den obigen 'dpkg -i ...' Befehl ausführte, wurde mir dieses
Verzeichnis sozusagen 'unter meinem Hintern' gelöscht.

In meiner /etc/X11/XF86Config habe ich die zu benutzenden Fonts wie
folgt aufgeführt:

Section Files
RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath   unix/:7100
FontPath   /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID/
FontPath   /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled
ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
EndSection
   
 
(Das hier aufgeführte 'TrueType'-Verzeichnis:
'/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType'
blieb nach dem genannten Befehl: 'dpkg -i ...' leer.)

Meine uralte Grafikkarte Tseng ET4000 läuft unter:
X - /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA


Bisher bin ich mit der grafischen Leistung meines X-Systems angesichts
meiner Uralt-Karte sehr zufrieden, habe aber bei genauem Hinsehen den
Eindruck von Treppen bei schrägen Buchstaben unter X.

Für Hinweise zu meinem Problem bin ich sehr dankbar.


Besten Gruß

W. Fokken


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Re: xtree for Linux

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:11:37PM -0800, Gruessle wrote:
  From: Paul Johnson
...
  You want mc.
 
 
 I got mc  :)
 But I think xTree Gold was better :))
 
 --
 Gruessle
 
searching  http://de.vivisimo.com  for Linux ytree:

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/pool/main/y/ytree/


W. Fokken


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Re: Setting text mode in the console

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 11:31:10PM -, Cruncher wrote:
 Anybody know whether and how I can set text modes in the console?  I'm running 
 woody, on a Pentium 200 with ATI Mach 64 chipset.  I've installed svgalib, 
 svgatextmode and fbset but I can't see how to change my text mode from 80x25.
 

~
(your mail would be easier to read with lines = 72 chars.
Using mutt w/ vim: edit to /usr/share/vim/vim61/syntax/muttrc.vim:

   set textwidth=72
)
~

Your /etc/TextConfig (configuring svgatextmode) seems still to have the
default mode 80x25 activated.

Using svgatextmode obsoletes any boot parameter for a graphic card,
as svgatextmode will substitute it's settings anyway.

Setting up your chipset configuration w/in /etc/TextConfig is still up
to you. (Maybe you can get clock settings from SuperProbe.)


(few lines from /etc/TextConfig):
#
#
# Optionally define the default mode, which will be called when
# SVGATextMode
# is started _without_ a mode definition string.
#
## DefaultMode 80x25
DefaultMode 100x37x9_SVGA


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Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:22:42AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:

Additionally, I like icewm's nice tiny display in the taskbar:

  a) load on localhost

  b) load on LAN
  
  c) load on ppd connection
 

On my AMD 133 MHz/128 MB RAM,
I extended icewm from 6 to 12 screens by editing

/etc/X11/icewm/preferences:

WorkspaceNames= 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , a , b , c 

it doesn't seem to slow my system down.


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Re: vim von mutt aus

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 02:21:37AM +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 20. Nov 2003, 22:41:04 +0100 schrieb Christian Schult:
  * Bertram schrieb:
   wenn ich 'vim' von 'mutt' aus starte (neue Mail verfassen),
   wird meine '~/.vimrc' nicht gelesen.
   
   Kann mir jemand auf die Schnelle sagen, was ich umstellen
   muß?
  Ist die Variable editor in deiner muttrc angegeben, was sagt :set
  editor (in mutt eingeben)?
 
 Hoppla, habe `mutt' unrecht getan. Die `vimrc' wird gelesen
 (Festgestellt durch `let @d = system( date)').
 
 Also frage ich präziser: Ich will `vim' beibringen: `set tw=60';
 wie gewöhne ich ihm ab, bei bestimmten Dateien (nach Typen) sein
 eigenes `tw' einzustellen?
 
 Danke erstmal,
 Gruß
 Bertram
 

bei mir konnte ich die folgende Datei edieren:

/usr/share/vim/vim61/syntax/muttrc.vim


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Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:00:32PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
 Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and
  revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm
  startup from all levels.
 
 # update-rc.d -f xdm remove
 
  After you get back the monitor,
 
 # update-rc.d xdm defaults
 
 Neither of these are the right answer.  (a) will cause the /etc/rc?.d
 links to be put back into place if the package gets upgraded; (b) will
 put the links back, but at the wrong priority, so xdm would get
 started before things like cron.  Not a huge deal, but it's probably
 easier to leave one runlevel (say, 5) in the pristine state; delete
 /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm if you don't want xdm to start, and then use 'ln -s'
 to make a link identical to what's in /etc/rc5.d if you want to bring
 it back.
 

I have written a bash script to remove/restore any file entry
  in '/etc/init.d',
including ALL links and save them
  to '/etc/init.d/SAVE/'   as file.tar.gz.



e.g. init.d -s xdm
  saves /etc/init.d/xdm and ALL links referring to xdm 
  to /etc/init.d/SAVE/xdm.tar.gz

 init.d -r xdm will restore xdm and ALL links to place

The advantage: any change made to xdm or to any link adjustment will
be saved and, if needed, later restored to its original state.

One can easily test the system's reaction to removing a file, and, if
problems show up, restore the file.




Here is this script:   (on my system stored in '/usr/local/sh')
-


#!/bin/sh

# \wwf 9.3.02

USE ()  {
  echo
  echo 
  echo Save+Remove // Restore  Start_Stop Files in /etc/init.d/
  echo 
  setterm -bold on
  echo 'including related Links in   /etc/rc?.d/'
  setterm -bold off
  echo
  echo
  echo usage:
  echo
  echo $0  [{-s|-r}] fname ...(-s = default)
  echo 
  echo '( put Filename Wildcards in Double-Quotes:   *,  ? )'
  echo
  echo
  echo 'Options:'
  echo ''
  echo '-s = (S)avefiles to   /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz'
  echo '-r = (R)estore files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz'
  echo
  echo '(-s:  Files are MOVED from Directories to Archive)'
  echo '(-r:  Files are MOVED from Archive to Directories)'
  echo
  echo
}


Save () {
  test -d /etc/init.d/SAVE || mkdir /etc/init.d/SAVE

  echo Save+Deinstall init.d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz
  echo =
  cd /etc/init.d
  for FILE in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do
echo

#   Skip bad Params
if [ ! -f ${FILE} ]; then
  echo /etc/init.d/${FILE}:  NO FILE -- skipping Param
  echo --
  echo
  continue  ## comment this line: save links only
#   ## when /etc/init.d/file is missing
fi

if [ -f SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz ]; then
  echo Dest_Archive already exists:
  echo NO REwriting to /etc/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -- skipping Param
  echo --
  echo
  continue
fi

#   Begin of Job
echo -n Save+Deinstall /etc/init.d/${FILE} ? ; read answ
case $answ in
  y*|Y*|j*|J*)  echo Answer = ${answ};;   # Save Files
  *  )  echo Answer = ${answ}:NO Action -- skipping Param
echo
continue
esac

echo
echo Saving spec''d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz
echo -
find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name *${FILE} | \
tar -cvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -PT -
echo
echo Comparing Tar Archive to orig. Source Files
echo ---
tar -dvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz

if [ `echo $?` = 0 ]; then
  echo
  echo ==
  echo All Files saved OK
  echo ==
  echo
  echo -n Remove saved Source Files now ? ; read answ
  case $answ in
y*|Y*|j*|J*) echo Answer = ${answ};;  # Remove Files
*  ) echo Answer = ${answ}: Files NOT removed
iecho
 continue
  esac
  echo
  echo Removing saved Files from /etc/rc*/   /etc/init.a/
  find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name *${FILE} -exec rm {} \;
else
  echo
  echo ERROR, BAD Match!!
  echo ==
  echo /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz differs to
  echo Source Files in /etc/rc*/, /etc/init.d/
  echo NO File removed
  echo
fi
  done
}


Restore ()  {
  echo Reinstall Files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz
  echo ---
  cd /etc/init.d/SAVE/
  for 

Re: Test

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Patrick Cornelissen wrote:
 Thorsten Fricke wrote:
 Test, ob die ML wieder funzt...falls ja...bitte nicht weiter beachten...
 Ging sie zwischendurch nicht? ;-)
 
Nööh


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Re: fetchmail für alle Benutzer?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 05:38:20PM +0100, Roland M. Kruggel wrote:
 Am Mittwoch November 12 2003 15:02 schrieb Christoph Maurer:
 
  Ich bastele mir in ip-up aus den .fetchmailrcs aller Benutzer eine
  /etc/fetchmailrc, starte dann /etc/init.d/fetchmail und stoppe das
  im ip-down wieder. Wahlweise kann man das natürlich so machen, dass
  die /etc/fetchmailrc nur 1x täglich o.ä. neu gemacht wird.

ich habe für jeden Benutzer bzw. ISP-Account eine eigene fetchmailrc,
damit ich fetchmail mit dem kleinstmöglichen Zeitabstand nach mailfilter
starten kann; manches Grübeln über scheinbar unlogisch arbeitende Spam-
filter könnte auch daher kommen, das nach mailfilter noch neue Spams
eintrudeln und ohne Filterung von fetchmail geholt werden.

Wilko


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Re: fetchmail für alle Benutzer?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:58:33AM +0100, Steffen Hey wrote:
 ich habe mehrere User, jeder mit seiner eigenen .fetchmailrc im
 home-Verzeichnis aber keine /etc/fetchmailrc.
 
 Bei Inetverbindung sollen alle Postfächer geprüft werden.
 ... 
 Ist mein Vorhaben alle fetchmailrc in den home-Verzeichnissen abzuarbeiten
 mit fetchmail lösbar?
 
 Gruß Steffen
 

falls die Mail unter der ID der jeweiligen Anwender abgeholt werden
sollen (unter root):

for i in user1 user2 ... usern; do
su - $i -c fetchmail
done

eventuell die interessierenden Anwender aus '/etc/passwd' generieren
oder aus einer Textdatei nehmen.


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Re: Begrenzung mit fetchmail

[Wilko Fokken]

Das Problem eines Mail-Überlaufs glaube ich mit meinen begrenzten
Kenntnissen einigermaßen brauchbar mit einer Kombination aus mailfilter,
fetchmail, exim und mutt gelöst zu haben.

Als Beispiel für diesen Beitrag verwende ich 3 eigene ISP Mail Accounts:

1.) für meine private Mail
2.) für die deutsche Debian-Liste
3.) für die englische Debian-Liste

Mit 'fetchmail' hole ich diese Mails auf meinen localen Rechner.

Den genannten externen ISP Accounts entsprechen bei mir 3 locale User
Accounts: Jedes ISP Account wird bei mir local unter einer eigenen
User-ID in '/var/mail/uid' abgelegt:

Um meine private Mail zu lesen, logge ich mich als User wwf ein, so
daß 'mutt' automatisch auf '/var/mail/wwf' zugreift. Entsprechend logge
ich mich für meine Debian-Listen als wwf0 und wwf1 ein.

Für meine Mailverarbeitung verwende ich ein zentrales bash script, das
gewöhnlich cron-gesteuert aufgerufen wird, nachdem mein Rechner von
einer externen simplen 220V-Schaltuhr gestartet wurde.

Der entscheidende Vorteil für mich liegt darin, daß jedes ISP Account
getrennt für sich verarbeitet wird:

a) 'mailfilter' mit Account-spezifischer 'mailfilterrc'
b) 'fetchmail'  mit Account-spezifischer 'fetchmailrc'

Auf diese Weise genügen mir wenige spezifische Filterbedingungen, um
fast sämtliche Spams bereits beim Provider abzufangen, so daß meine
online-Zeit schlank bleibt.

Z.B. löscht mein 'mailfilter' im ISP-Account für die deutsche Debian
Liste mit folgenden 2 Filterbedingungen fast sämtliche Spams:

DENY^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DENY=^Content-Type:.*text/html

(Lösche jede Mail, die unter der Rubrik X-Mailing-List: NICHT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] eingetragen hat;
 Lösche jede Mail, die unter der Rubrik Content-Type:
text/html eingetragen hat, also einen html-Text enthält.)

Solche spezifischen Filter kann ich nur anwenden, wenn ich nicht eine
einzige, allgemeine 'mailfilterrc' sondern mehrere, an die verschiedenen
ISP-Accounts angepaßte 'mailfilterrc's verwende.

Meine Mail unter verschiedenen User-Ids abzulegen, erlaubt mir, mich
parallel unter diesen User-IDs einzuloggen, so daß ich zwischen meiner
privaten Mail und den öffentlichen Debian Listen hin- und herschalten
kann. Vor allem brauche ich meine umfangreichen Listen-Mails nicht mehr
local nach Spam zu durchsuchen, da hier fast keine Spams durchkommen;
bei meiner privaten Mail finden sich (bislang) manchmal 1 - 3 Spams,
aber die sind bei meinem geringen privaten Mailaufkommen schnell
entdeckt.

(Mein genanntes cron-gesteuertes bash script begrenzt die Downloadgröße
auf 16K, um eventuell durchgerutschte Riesen-Spams zu vermeiden; rufe
ich das script interaktiv auf, fragt es nach dem ersten Durchgang nach,
ob das ganze noch einmal für Mail jeder Größe wiederholt werden soll.)

Insgesamt sammle ich meine Listen-Mails in Monatsdateien, die ich später
mit gzip komprimiere. Meine Account-spezifischen 'mailfilter'-Logdateien
werden unter '/var/log/mailfilter/' abgelegt, wo sie 'logrotate'
unterliegen. Hier sehe ich gelegentlich nach, ob doch einmal eine gute
Mail fälschlich gelöscht wurde.

Sollte sich jemand für die dargestellte Mailverarbeitung näher
interessieren, bin ich bereit, meine relevanten Dateien als 'tar'-Anhang
(der die Verzeichnisse berücksichtigt) in die Liste zu stellen, wobei
die meisten dieser Dateien (englisch) kommentiert sind; eine zentrale
Darstellung habe ich noch nicht zuwege gebracht.

Für Verbesserungsvorschläge bin ich natürlich dankbar; insbesondere
dürften so viele uid's pro Anwender auf öffentlichen Workstations nicht
möglich sein.


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Re: Windows zerstört meinen Lilo!

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:42:29AM +0100, Lars Weissflog wrote:

 Abhilfe: ME kicken. Scherz. Ernst: Wenn dein Wakeup aus dem Standby (ich
 nehme mal an, du meinst das Suspend-To-Disk, auch Ruhezustand oder
 Hibernate genannt) nicht zuverlässig funktioniert: Finger weg. Der
 Hintergrund ist, wenn ich mich recht entsinne: Windows schreibt für den
 Fall des Hibernate einen neuen MBR, damit beim nächsten einschalten auch
 definitiv wieder Windows geladen wird. Macht XP genauso. Wenn er dann
 beim nächsten mal wieder normal runter gefahren wird (was du ja
 hoffentlich tust bevor du zum besseren OS wechselst ;-)) sollte er den
 ursprünglichen MBR wieder herstellen, was ihm aber offenbar nicht sauber
 gelingt. Daher dein Problem. Also: Ich würde das mit dem Hibernate bei
 ME schön lassen, ist keine saubere Lösung. Bei 2000 ist das besser.
 

Falls 'loadlin.exe' unter WinME noch funktioniert, wäre Hibernate kein
Problem mehr.


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Re: can't set hdparm -d1 and correct kernel config

[Wilko Fokken]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:25:49AM +, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
 
 Use this command to see what kernel options there are and what is 
 selected in your kernel config file located in  /boot.
 'cat /boot/config-kerel version |grep DMA' 
 - -- 
 Greg Madden
 
 I did this and the only options that were set are
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
 All the others are specified as is not set
 So it seems as if dma is allowed here.
 
 Regards,
 Benedict
 


(This is what my old AMD 133 MHz shows)

# grep DMA config-2.2.20
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
CONFIG_DMASCC=m

Hardware question:
Are all jumpers (master/slave) correct, including CD / DVD drive ?
May it be worth to switch the sequence of HD / CD .. drives?

Wilko


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Re: nfs problem

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BTW, is there still a way to mount a windows dirtree via nfs ?


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Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
 english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape 
   etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and 
   lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together. 
   the lego-like structure of english makes it easier to create a computer 
   language...
  ...
 Which is also one reason why English is a successful Lingua Franca
 (pun intended).
 
I agree, especially to your lego example. The following attempts to
look at some possible historical reasons for linguistic differences
of these languages.

The English language is, apart from it's Romance admixture, widely
derived from the ancient (mutually closely related) Frisian / Saxon /
Anglian languages of the 5th century A.D. (Even the English people today
prove indiscernable from their continental Frisian neighbours to DNA
investigations excluding Welsh and Scottish relationships, of course.)
Up to the 12th century, English puppet actors could play without
interpreter at continental shores.

These ancient languages were known for their terse, concentrated legal
terminology: Frisia non cantat, Frisia ratiocinatur (Frisia doesn't
sing, Frisia counsels). The other linguistic root, the Latin language,
was equally well adjusted to legislation; the Roman Law is still being
studied by law-students.

(As both linguistic ancestors proved inclined rather to legal
terminologies, I wonder how far the English musical culture might be
based on Celtic influences.)

Legal terminology requires defining rock solid linguistic terms in order
to stay firm to legal disputing. On the other hand, legal terms must be
flexible in a certain way, to be able to cover individual cases through
generalized rules. In legislation, the real, practical social life is
condensed to an abstract model - quite similar to computing, I guess.

Another benefit to the English language may have been the long seafaring
history of the British nation. Sailing in rough weather condtions tends
to shorten clumsy words (the big ones get lost), an effect one can find
in the Dutch language, too.

Over the centuries, the German language had been split up into various
regional dialects - since the Roman Empire of German Nation was
scattered into hundreds of powerless mini-states, probably due to the
fact that the German emperors, contrary to their neighboured kingdoms,
had to permanently fight an additional war: not only against their own
vassals, but also against the popes representing the power of the Roman
Church. So, beneath the weakened power of the empire, the vassals became
more and more independent, a cause for permanent quarreling among each
other. Finally, the German empire ended up as the main battlefield for
the European powers (it was terminated during the French invasion under
Napoleon in 1806).

While the European neighbours started discovering and later ruling the
world, the Germans lead a rather regional life within small societies,
physically and mentally confined to narrow boundaries, where people were
fairly familiar with each other, where the presence of strangers meant
war and distress. Such a powerless life for centuries led to a deep
longing for that great, strong emperor, who would unify his empire, end
all feuds and take his people out of distress and misery into peace.

On the other hand, this rather poor ground grew a precious little social
flower, the subtle democratic organizing of life in co-operative ways,
e.g. leading to nationwide farmer's co-operative banking assosiations,
combined with co-operatives for buying and selling farmer's products
(Raiffeisen) as well as to exemplary trade unions with their special
retail stores (Konsum) for their working class members. Governmental
responses were (due to the power of the trade unions) the first social
insurances and, later in the 20th century, the social market economy.

(It is my opinion that the German military efficiency during the last
two centuries is more a kind of explosive reaction to the ending of the
old confinement to a small life - similar to the Irisch, who became by
far the fiercest fighters during the Civil War, after having been freed
from distress and helpless powerty of the past.)

I touched these aspects to give some hint on how the collective German
mind - and language - might have been touched in the long-term past. I
think the linguistic terms become more like bricks in ruling societies
staying atop of their problems compared to societies subdued to other
powers and helpless about their problems. The German language tends to
be more like bricks, where scholars left the turf of practical reality
to deal with more abstract problems in philosophy and religion. Instead
of conquering the world, the Germans tended to develop the instruments
for such tasks.

A small German poem might illustrate 

Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 07:57:20AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
 As for setting up basic bash configuration, a little experimentation
 shows that this is what I've got (debian 3.0r1). 
 
 Root has both .bashrc and .profile, and the configuations (custom bash
 prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
 .bash_profile (there's no .profile), and the configuration must go
 into the latter. It does not work for me if put into .bashrc.
 

I once gathered this information (is this right ?):

# ~/.profile, at login autoread by all Bourne-compatible shells \
(after /etc/profile)

# ~/.profile is *NOT* executed by bash shell if ~/.bash_profile exists

# All 2nd level bash shells will read ~/.bashrc
 


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Re: vim syntax

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:53:22AM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 05:25:01PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
 } Hi
 } 
 } How do I have vim syntax highlighting always on instead of having to
 } type :syntax on?
 
 Add syntax on to your .vimrc
 
or to '/etc/vim/vimrc' for other users, too


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Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:53:11AM +, Pigeon wrote:
 
 SiS6326-based cards are cheap, are available in PCI format, and can be
 used with svgatextmode using my ClockProg. They're crap for games but
 fine for desktop stuff.
 

Thanks for your information, I'll try buying such a card.

What is it about your 'ClockProg', can it's output be used as Clocks 
in '/etc/X11/XF86Config' ?


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Re: Pathetic Writer (or siagoffice)

[Wilko Fokken]

On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:40:29PM +1100, Ken Caldwell wrote:
 
 I was looking for a small word processor and spreadsheet to be used on
 some old computers (Pentium 75 with 32MB RAM and 520MB HDD) and tried to
 use Pathetic Writer which is part of siagoffice but it seems to crash.
 
 Ken
 
Do you really need wordprocessing combined with a spreadsheet within one
single program?

If not, you may try 'slsc' as a not so bad spreadsheet in text mode;
this may lead you to a better wordprocessor not overeating your system
ressources - if not even to working with 'latex'.

Wilko


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