Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: DISCLAIMER I have never done a release so I'm only giving you my interpretation of the document. Authorative answers will come from elsewhere if I have got something wrong. A bit of background might help. Jeff Turner did the releases up to

Re: [SUMMARY] Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-08 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... Does this sound OK? It sounds brilliant. Indeed! The part that i like most is that each project is focussing on their own tools, we are not duplicating, and we are collaborating. David, it seems Ross cracked open the coconut [1] and we now

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: OK, along the same theme of quick hacks I've put a simple demo together for you. To see it you need to checkout the locationmap_branch of Forrest. Seed a fresh site, do forrest run and look at the locaitonmap sample (last item in the samples

old skins leather-dev and corium?

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
There are two skins of uncertain status: leather-dev and corium. Are they part of the Views now and we don't need them any more? They are not listed when we do 'forrest available-skins'. If they are not needed, then can we remove them, as i reckon they will confuse new users. Alternatively we

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: ... so initially, people could write documents in lenya, publish them, and then head over to forrest(bot?) to slurp all these pages in? My personal view is not to use the Forrestbot, but to mod_proxy/mod_cache a live Forrest instance that gets files from a

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: ... - Create a new file, etc/RELEASE-NOTES-x.y.txt, where x.y is the version currently being released. It is best to copy an earlier RELEASE-NOTES file, to keep a common layout. In this file, provide a summary of changes,

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross, are you able to explain what needs to happen with the plugins at release-time. I mean do they all need to have -0.7 appended to the names of the zip files? Blast I forgot that entirely (again!). Yes we need two zipped versions, a pluginname-0.7.zip and a

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: The new ability might assist, but we still need the RELEASE-NOTES-0.7.txt file. cd FORREST_HOME/site-author forrest run http://localhost:/releaseNotes_0.7-dev.txt What's missing from this document, I'll fix it while

Re: svn commit: r189541 - /forrest/trunk/site-author/status.xml

2005-06-08 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: crossley Date: Wed Jun 8 00:29:42 2005 New Revision: 189541 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=189541view=rev Log: Add missing @type attribute for one entry. sorry, I was testing jedit for editing status. Do you think that this attribute should be marked

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
David Crossley wrote: This time it sounds like Ferdinand is offering to help. Yes, I'll try. The reason I didn't say so before asking the questions was that I want to fully understand what I have to do before I commit myself to doing it ... That is great, because we need more people to

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: ... A first step would be to update the instructions before i start. Anybody mind if I update them to show more details for people w/o that background? Mind, I hate doing those kinds of jobs, please be my guest. (note David already did some

Re: [SUMMARY] Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... Does this sound OK? It sounds brilliant. Indeed! The part that i like most is that each project is focussing on their own tools, we are not duplicating, and we are collaborating. David, it seems Ross cracked

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: ... so initially, people could write documents in lenya, publish them, and then head over to forrest(bot?) to slurp all these pages in? My personal view is not to use the Forrestbot, but to mod_proxy/mod_cache a live Forrest instance

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Following the developing discussion amongst you and having tried to do a few of the things you mentioned, I'm feeling slightly overwhelmed by the complexity of the task. So looking at our ambitious time frame I'd like to take up David on his offer I reckon it would be better that i do the

Re: svn commit: r189541 - /forrest/trunk/site-author/status.xml

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: crossley Date: Wed Jun 8 00:29:42 2005 New Revision: 189541 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=189541view=rev Log: Add missing @type attribute for one entry. sorry, I was testing jedit for editing status. Do you think that this

Re: cocoon protocols

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Tim Williams wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: According to my understanding as expressed above a cocoon:/ in the project sitemap will *not* search the root sitemap, a cocoon:// will. Of course, you have provided an example that indicates this is not the case despite the

[jira] Created: (FOR-528) Add version control to plugins

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
Add version control to plugins -- Key: FOR-528 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-528 Project: Forrest Type: Improvement Versions: 0.7-dev Reporter: Ross Gardler Assigned to: Ross Gardler Priority: Blocker

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
David Crossley wrote: - Set your Java version to be the lowest specified of our supported versions. Where is the definitive info on the supported versions? The FAQ says we need Java 1.4 or better. Does that mean it has to be 1.4.0 or can it be 1.4.x 1.4.0 Oooh, glad you asked that

Re: old skins leather-dev and corium?

2005-06-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 16:51 +1000, David Crossley wrote: There are two skins of uncertain status: leather-dev and corium. Are they part of the Views now and we don't need them any more? They are not listed when we do 'forrest available-skins'. Actually leather-dev is the default skin for

[jira] Created: (FOR-529) Validate our use of cocoon:// and cocoon://

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
Validate our use of cocoon:// and cocoon:// --- Key: FOR-529 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-529 Project: Forrest Type: Task Reporter: Ross Gardler Priority: Minor Tim Williams has highlighted an

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:21 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: ... so initially, people could write documents in lenya, publish them, and then head over to forrest(bot?) to slurp all these pages in? My personal view is not to use

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:21 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... Aditionally, what we would need is just to add an _edit_ link to each Forrest page that points to the url Lenya uses for editing. Currently this is done through filter XSL's (see

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 10:08 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:21 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... Aditionally, what we would need is just to add an _edit_ link to each Forrest page that points to the url Lenya uses

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 10:08 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... :) Yeah, that is simply a contract that contains a link to daisy/lenya/anyOtherCms edit page. I will make an example as soon I have updated the locationmap branch on my harddrive

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 11:11 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 10:08 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... :) Yeah, that is simply a contract that contains a link to daisy/lenya/anyOtherCms edit page. I will make an example

Re: [SUMMARY] Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... Does this sound OK? It sounds brilliant. Indeed! The part that i like most is that each project is focussing on their own tools, we are not duplicating, and we are collaborating.

[jira] Commented: (FOR-527) The project.issues-rss-url in forrest.properties need to refer to apache.org

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-527?page=comments#action_12313031 ] Ross Gardler commented on FOR-527: -- Actually I noted this when making the previous comment:

[jira] Created: (FOR-531) Searchbox floats to top in Moz browsers

2005-06-08 Thread Addison Berry (JIRA)
Searchbox floats to top in Moz browsers - Key: FOR-531 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-531 Project: Forrest Type: Bug Components: Skins (general issues) Versions: 0.7-dev Environment: Netscape 7.x

Couldn't attach screenshot to JIRA

2005-06-08 Thread Addi
I just opened a new issue and had to load the screenshot up by attaching a gif file (using attach file). When I tried to use the attach screenshot option, it seemed like it was working (paste screenshot, add comment, click attach) but after I clicked attach and the page reloaded, there was no

[jira] Updated: (FOR-531) Searchbox floats to top in Moz browsers

2005-06-08 Thread Addison Berry (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-531?page=all ] Addison Berry updated FOR-531: -- Attachment: searchbox_float.gif Attached screenshot of what I'm seeing. (attached as gif file because I can't attach a screenshot for some reason.) Searchbox

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-08 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thanks for fixing some of the docs already, David. Some questions remaining: - Set your Java version to be the lowest specified of our supported versions. e.g. J2SDK 1.4.0 See my ealier posting on this. - Run 'build release-dist' to generate the distributions on a UNIX machine. -

draft proposal

2005-06-08 Thread Mikler
Hello! Ross! Ive tried to locate the Eclipse plug-in, that you mentioned, the alpha one. But I wasnt able to find it in http links download. Tonight I will checkout forest from trunk cause it its expensive to do that in the day time. But even without it here is some kind of my proposition

Re: [views] Survival guide and setup

2005-06-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 20:15 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Comments from trying it: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I will write a howto on that I promise! For now try the following survival guide: *setup* 1) The first step is to build the view and the viewHelper plugins (that will be

[jira] Work started: (FOR-528) Add version control to plugins

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-528?page=all ] Work on FOR-528 started by Ross Gardler Add version control to plugins -- Key: FOR-528 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-528 Project: Forrest Type:

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: (cc'd to Lenya Dev for their comments as well - please reply-all) ... Looking at the Doco document [1] I see that Lenya and Forrest are not directly interacting, as both talk to a common repository. Right now, what we have is: --- committers ---. .

[jira] Created: (FOR-534) Skin sample donation

2005-06-08 Thread Torsten Stolpmann (JIRA)
Skin sample donation Key: FOR-534 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-534 Project: Forrest Type: Improvement Components: Other Versions: 0.6 Reporter: Torsten Stolpmann Priority: Minor As discussed on

[jira] Updated: (FOR-534) Skin sample donation

2005-06-08 Thread Torsten Stolpmann (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-534?page=all ] Torsten Stolpmann updated FOR-534: -- Attachment: verit-forrest-sample.zip Skin sample donation Key: FOR-534 URL:

Re: [RT] Accepting and managing Skin Packages (was Re: Forrest Example Sites)

2005-06-08 Thread Torsten Stolpmann
Ross Gardler wrote: Torsten Stolpmann wrote: As Claudia already pointed out, most work done on pelt was rather destructive (disabling/removing features we didn't need/like/got in the way) than constructive. I've often wanted to disable certain features in our skins, but never found the

[jira] Created: (FOR-532) Auto Generate plugins.xml entry

2005-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
Auto Generate plugins.xml entry --- Key: FOR-532 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-532 Project: Forrest Type: Improvement Reporter: Ross Gardler -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it

Re: old skins leather-dev and corium?

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: There are two skins of uncertain status: leather-dev and corium. Are they part of the Views now and we don't need them any more? They are not listed when we do 'forrest available-skins'. Actually leather-dev is the default skin for

locationmapped resources

2005-06-08 Thread Tim Williams
I've got resources in resources.xmap looking at locationmap now. I haven't done it for any non-image resource though.Should the following matches be resolvable through locationmaps too? I can't off the top of my head think of any reason why not but thought it important enough to query.

Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-08 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
On Wed, 2005-01-06 at 12:02 +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: Anyway, first I verified that setting value=es_ES in main/webapp/sitemap.xmap indeed works. It brings the Spanish strings from the right catalogue. I also verified that value=${env.LANG} does *not* work.

sitemap ?issues?.. maybe..

2005-06-08 Thread Tim Williams
I apologize up front for being a pest while you guys are prepping for the release but... I started my queries into sitemaps with the cocoon:/ cocoon:// protocols but now I'm starting to wonder whether we have other sitemap related issues too. (Not issues in the sense of bugs, but issues in the

[jira] Closed: (FOR-527) The project.issues-rss-url in forrest.properties need to refer to apache.org

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-527?page=all ] David Crossley closed FOR-527: -- The project.issues-rss-url in forrest.properties need to refer to apache.org

Re: sitemap ?issues?.. maybe..

2005-06-08 Thread David Crossley
Tim Williams wrote: I apologize up front for being a pest while you guys are prepping for the release but... No worries. Development continues on. You are not being a pest, far from it. Thanks anyway for being so considerate. I started my queries into sitemaps with the cocoon:/ cocoon://