Lending a Hand

2013-08-14 Thread Robin Molnar
Hello, I'm Robin, I do QA and is good to be here. Thus, I look forward to our working together on this great product. Have a great day! R. -- Robintel BMS www.robintel.ro

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for AOO 4.0.1

2013-08-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/13/13 6:55 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: 2013/8/13 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: But if we change it it annoys potentially other users. The question is what would be the correct and most often wanted

[RELEASE]: propose translation deadline for AOO 4.0.1

2013-08-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, it seems that besides new languages some communities are working on fixes/improvements of the existing translation which is fine for me. To coordinate this work with the rest I would like to propose a general translation deadline for new languages as well as updates of existing ones. I

Re: [Pootle] about translating AOOE site

2013-08-14 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/8/13 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 23:47, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/12 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 11:11, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 12 August 2013 11:01, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 12.08.13

Debian Build Scripts

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there, I am looking for the debian source packages and or debian/rules for apache open office, can anyone give me some pointers? mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion

Re: Debian Build Scripts

2013-08-14 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 14.08.2013 12:57, Mike Dupont wrote: I am looking for the debian source packages and or debian/rules for apache open office, can anyone give me some pointers? AOO creates its Debian packages using EPM [1] when the configure option --with-package-format=deb is given to the AOO build. They

Re: Debian Build Scripts

2013-08-14 Thread Mike Dupont
Thank you, that is what I was looking for! mike On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 14.08.2013 12:57, Mike Dupont wrote: I am looking for the debian source packages and or debian/rules for apache open office, can anyone give me some pointers? AOO

Re: unexpected behavior from configure -- new env script not generated

2013-08-14 Thread Andre Fischer
On 13.08.2013 23:02, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 13 August 2013 21:03, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I did a dmake clean to start over with my build, and then proceded with autoconf and configure. I had chagned my ant

Re: unexpected behavior from configure -- new env script not generated

2013-08-14 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 14.08.2013 14:28, Andre Fischer wrote: On 13.08.2013 23:02, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 13 August 2013 21:03, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I did a dmake clean to start over with my build, and then proceded

Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
We're working now on AOO 4.0.1, to fix defects in AOO 4.0.0. The fact that we're doing this, and their are no arguments against it, shows that we value quality. I'd like to take this a step further, and see what we can learn from the defects in AOO 4.0.0 and what we can do going forward to

[BUILD] Linux32 snapshot configure

2013-08-14 Thread Andrew Rist
Here is the current configure statement for the Linux32 bot - is this correct, and what changes would make it better? ./configure \ --with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk \ --with-epm-url=http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz \

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
I apologize in advance if my note was note clear. I'm not at all interested in off-the-cuff opinions. We all have our opinions. But I'm only interested in fact-based analysis of the actual regressions reported in BZ. Specifically: what caused the actually defects that ended up in 4.0.0 and

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:55 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 14 August 2013 19:36, Edwin Sharp el...@mail-page.com wrote: Dear Rob The 4.0 release was too ambitious - we should advance in smaller steps. Nothing compares to general public testing - betas and release candidates should not

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 14.08.13 20:21, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Edwin Sharp el...@mail-page.com wrote: Dear Rob The 4.0 release was too ambitious - we should advance in smaller steps. Nothing compares to general public testing - betas and release candidates should not be avoided.

[Extensions website] Timeline don't work

2013-08-14 Thread FR web forum
Hello list, For the last 3 recents OXT, timeline don't work: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?query=sort_by=createdsort_order=DESC Download numbers seems to be not tracked. If you jump to SF.net, you got an error: The /17434 file could not be found or is not available.

4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123038] Update bundled dictionaries for OpenOffice 4.0.1

2013-08-14 Thread bugzilla
Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org has asked for 4.0.1_release_blocker: Bug 123038: Update bundled dictionaries for OpenOffice 4.0.1 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123038 --- Additional Comments from Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org Bundled dictionaries listed in

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit : I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40 or so regressions that were reported came from an install base (based on download figures since 4.0.0 was released) of around 3 million users. Realistically, can we expect

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit : Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit : I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40 or so regressions that were reported came from an install base (based on download figures since 4.0.0 was released) of around 3

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 09:01 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 14.08.13 20:21, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Edwin Sharp el...@mail-page.com wrote: Dear Rob The 4.0 release was too ambitious - we should advance in smaller steps. Nothing compares to general public testing - betas and

Re: [Website]

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Since a few weeks we get mails with just [Website] as subject. Just one word is not really meaningful to classify the mail content on the first view. So, I'm wondering from where they come from and how to improve this? Marcus

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit : Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit : I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40 or so regressions that were reported came from an

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/08/2013 21:37, Marcus (OOo) a écrit : In general, my feeling is that it's too early to do a retrospective and ask what was good, what needs to be improved? (to say it with SCRUM words ;-) ) Just after the first major release. Well, I visit forums and contribute since OOo 2.0 and it's

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 09:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Hagar Delesthagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit : Le 14/08/2013 21:01, Raphael Bircher a écrit : I like the idea of a public beta. But consider the numbers. The 40 or so

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/14/2013 09:01 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 14.08.13 20:21, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Edwin Sharp el...@mail-page.com wrote: Dear Rob The 4.0 release was too ambitious - we should

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 09:50 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: Le 14/08/2013 21:37, Marcus (OOo) a écrit : In general, my feeling is that it's too early to do a retrospective and ask what was good, what needs to be improved? (to say it with SCRUM words ;-) ) Just after the first major release. Well, I visit

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/08/2013 21:39, Rob Weir a écrit : Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for over a month. But maybe it is ignored unless we call it an RC? In other words, there were many opportunities for users to

4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 122881] OpenOffice Application icon invisible

2013-08-14 Thread bugzilla
Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org has asked for 4.0.1_release_blocker: Bug 122881: OpenOffice Application icon invisible https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122881 --- Additional Comments from Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org Ask for Release Blocker

Re: [Website]

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Since a few weeks we get mails with just [Website] as subject. Just one word is not really meaningful to classify the mail content on the first view. So, I'm wondering from where they come from and how to improve this?

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 09:58 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/14/2013 09:01 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 14.08.13 20:21, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Edwin Sharpel...@mail-page.com wrote: Dear Rob The

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 10:05 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: Le 14/08/2013 21:39, Rob Weir a écrit : Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for over a month. But maybe it is ignored unless we call it an RC? In other words,

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 10:24 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/14/2013 10:05 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: Le 14/08/2013 21:39, Rob Weir a écrit : Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for over a month. But maybe it is

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 August 2013 20:39, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for over a month. But maybe it is ignored unless we call it an RC? In other words, there were many

Re: [Website]

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 10:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Since a few weeks we get mails with just [Website] as subject. Just one word is not really meaningful to classify the mail content on the first view. So, I'm wondering from where

Re: [Website]

2013-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2013 10:32 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/14/2013 10:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Since a few weeks we get mails with just [Website] as subject. Just one word is not really meaningful to classify the mail content

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/14/2013 10:05 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: Le 14/08/2013 21:39, Rob Weir a écrit : Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more attention? We had a complete test build that we were testing for

Re: [Extensions website] Timeline don't work

2013-08-14 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/8/14 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr Hello list, For the last 3 recents OXT, timeline don't work: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?query=sort_by=createdsort_order=DESC Download numbers seems to be not tracked. Actually the timeline works only for extensions hosted on the

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread sebb
On 14 August 2013 23:10, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/14/2013 10:05 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: Le 14/08/2013 21:39, Rob Weir a écrit : Maybe we need to call an earlier build the RC so it will get more

Re: Some thoughts on quality

2013-08-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/14/2013 09:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Hagar Delesthagar.delest@laposte.**nethagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 14/08/2013 21:29, Hagar Delest a écrit : Le 14/08/2013 21:01,

Re: [BUILD] Linux32 snapshot configure

2013-08-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.comwrote: Here is the current configure statement for the Linux32 bot - is this correct, and what changes would make it better? ./configure \ --with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/**java-6-openjdk \