[SailfishDevel] Problem with installing

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I wanted to try out qt-components-qt5 on Sailfish. I created a new project,
copied packaging and .desktop to the folder of a Harmattan project. But
now, while deploying, there's an error:

 Error on file /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop:
No such file or directory

What am I doing wrong? The root project file is a subdirs file, .desktop is
in the subdir 'src'

Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] File chooser

[Marcin M.]

As Roberto said: don't take Android and iOS as a reference point. I simply
don't want just another borked  crappy UX! Maemo Fremantle was nice at
filepicking, though the build-in file picker had no option of displaying
the whole FS. Harmattan was a step back, as most apps store there files in
mysterious or dumb place (some downloads go to .downloads, some to
Downloads, and the documents are stored in /home/user). Please, don't make
Sailfish two steps forward, one hundred steps back by making it an
Android/iOS clone.

The gallery might be usable at times, but nothing can replace a normal file
picker. Tabs would work great here: one for normal picking, 2nd for the
gallery.


--
Marcin


2013/11/4 Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com

 4.11.2013 12:32, Roberto Colistete Jr.:

  Em 04-11-2013 07:41, Artem Marchenko escreveu:

 As for my current person and arguably humble opinion, iOS is doing just
 great without the file dialog. It does force/encourage all the apps use own
 sandbox only (and own file-like selection dialogs then) and calls for
 workarounds when you actually want apps to interoperate, but.. the
 simplicity benefits you get to user by hiding the file level are great.


 Please, Sailfish community, don't take Android, iOS and other dumbed
 down mobile OS as examples. These mobile OS limit the freedom of the users,
 as well as developers : fake multi-tasking, restricted file system access,
 no dependencies, etc. For example, Ubuntu Touch 13.10 has more limitations
 than Android, because Canonical takes Android and iOS as models to copy
 many features. Please, Sailfish community, continue to take the examples
 from Maemo, MeeGo Harmattan and Nemo Mobile.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases, databases
depend on the free app)

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2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

 Good point, thanks!


 On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:

 And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain the
 library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side (after
 that you can depend against it).

 re, Jonni
 
 From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-bounces@lists.
 sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto [jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
 To: Sailfish OS Developers
 Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

 HI,

 AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only depend on
 common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires field.

 re, Jonni
 
 From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-bounces@lists.
 sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey Kozhevnikov [coderusin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
 Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

 Please more information about Harbour:

 - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some libraries,
 required as depends for my appliction?

 - does it acts as repository?

 On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:

 Ahoy all,

 Today we're launching Jolla Harbour harbour.jolla.com, the portal for
 submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
 You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able to
 install them directly from their Jolla phones.

 Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:

 Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
 Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla Harbour
 landing page (harbour.jolla.com) or if you have pre-ordered your Jolla
 phone, you have everything you need to get started. To manage your account
 details, please visit account.jolla.com.

 Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
 You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla Harbour.
 The submission process is the same.

 Start with free applications:
 At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
 applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we will
 keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.

 Binary package naming:
 You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary package to
 Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning at
 http://semver.org.

 Preparing your metadata:
 Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
- An app icon for the Store  (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
 90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
- 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
- An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or jpg)

 Submission process:
 To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata for it
 and upload the binary and required images. After you have submitted your
 app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.

 Quality Assurance testing:
 Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
 devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a few
 days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email address you have
 registered to your Jolla account.


 If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
 developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish developers
 mailing list at devel at lists.sailfishos.org.

 Happy hacking!
 The Jolla Store Team


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a modular
app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase system,
it wouldn't be so bad :)

--
Marcin


2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com

 I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
 to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.

 An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have their
 own applications, libraries and tools there.

 Just my 0.02

 Cheers,

 On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
   Hi,
   Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
   Regards,
 
   --
   Marcin
   2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto [1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com
 
   Hi,
   AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
   cannot depend on store packages.
   re, Jonni
   __
 
   From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
   [[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
   databases depend on the free app)
   --
   Marcin
   2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov [5]coderusin...@gmail.com
 
   Good point, thanks!
 
   On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
 
   And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
   the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
   (after that you can depend against it).
   re, Jonni
   
   From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
   [[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   HI,
   AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
   depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
   field.
   re, Jonni
   
   From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
   Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
   To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   Please more information about Harbour:
   - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
   libraries,
   required as depends for my appliction?
   - does it acts as repository?
   On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
 
   Ahoy all,
   Today we're launching Jolla Harbour [13]harbour.jolla.com, the
   portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
   You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
   to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
   Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
   Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
   Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
   Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
   pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
   started. To manage your account details, please visit
   [15]account.jolla.com.
   Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
   You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
   Harbour. The submission process is the same.
   Start with free applications:
   At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
   applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we
   will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
   Binary package naming:
   You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
   package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning
   at [16]http://semver.org.
   Preparing your metadata:
   Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
   - An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
   90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
   - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
   - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
   jpg)
   Submission process:
   To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
   for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have
   submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
   Quality Assurance testing:
   Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
   devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a
   few days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email
   address you have registered to your Jolla account.
   If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
   [17]developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish
   developers mailing list at devel at [18]lists.sailfishos.org.
   Happy

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Openrepos bear here :)

--
Marcin


2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  Opensource dies here :D


 On 06.11.2013 22:12, Marcin M. wrote:

 It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
 modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase
 system, it wouldn't be so bad :)

  --
 Marcin


 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com

 I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
 to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.

 An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have their
 own applications, libraries and tools there.

 Just my 0.02

 Cheers,

 On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
   Hi,
   Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
   Regards,
 
   --
   Marcin
2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto [1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com
 
   Hi,
   AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
   cannot depend on store packages.
   re, Jonni
__
 
   From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
   [[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
   databases depend on the free app)
   --
   Marcin
2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov [5]coderusin...@gmail.com
 
   Good point, thanks!
 
   On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
 
   And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
   the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
   (after that you can depend against it).
   re, Jonni
   
From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
   [[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   HI,
   AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
   depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
   field.
   re, Jonni
   
From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
   Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   Please more information about Harbour:
   - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
   libraries,
   required as depends for my appliction?
   - does it acts as repository?
   On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
 
   Ahoy all,
Today we're launching Jolla Harbour [13]harbour.jolla.com, the
   portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
   You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
   to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
   Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
   Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
   Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
   pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
   started. To manage your account details, please visit
[15]account.jolla.com.
   Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
   You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
   Harbour. The submission process is the same.
   Start with free applications:
   At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
   applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we
   will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
   Binary package naming:
   You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
   package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning
at [16]http://semver.org.
   Preparing your metadata:
   Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
   - An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
   90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
   - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
   - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
   jpg)
   Submission process:
   To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
   for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have
   submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
   Quality Assurance testing:
   Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
   devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a
   few days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email
   address you have registered to your Jolla account.
   If you encounter any

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

No dependencies mean problems too...

--
Marcin


2013/11/6 Benoît HERVIER kher...@khertan.net

  But apps shipping his own libraries mean not updated library, and could
 be a mess if there is a security issue on one of it s libs ...

 There is always advantages and problems :)

 Le 2013-11-06 17:25, 郭云鹤 a écrit :

 i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many
 problems.

 郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe)
 http://guoyunhe.me/
 在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com写道：

 It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
 modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase
 system, it wouldn't be so bad :)

  --
 Marcin


 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com

 I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
 to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.

 An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have their
 own applications, libraries and tools there.

 Just my 0.02

 Cheers,

 On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
   Hi,
   Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
   Regards,
 
   --
   Marcin
   2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto [1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com
 
   Hi,
   AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
   cannot depend on store packages.
   re, Jonni
   __
 
   From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
   [[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
   databases depend on the free app)
   --
   Marcin
   2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov [5]coderusin...@gmail.com
 
   Good point, thanks!
 
   On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
 
   And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
   the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
   (after that you can depend against it).
   re, Jonni
   
   From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
   [[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
   To: Sailfish OS Developers
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   HI,
   AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
   depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
   field.
   re, Jonni
   
   From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
   [[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
   Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
   To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
   Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
   Please more information about Harbour:
   - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
   libraries,
   required as depends for my appliction?
   - does it acts as repository?
   On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
 
   Ahoy all,
   Today we're launching Jolla Harbour [13]harbour.jolla.com, the
   portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
   You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
   to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
   Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
   Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
   Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
   Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
   pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
   started. To manage your account details, please visit
   [15]account.jolla.com.
   Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
   You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
   Harbour. The submission process is the same.
   Start with free applications:
   At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
   applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we
   will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
   Binary package naming:
   You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
   package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning
   at [16]http://semver.org.
   Preparing your metadata:
   Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
   - An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
   90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
   - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
   - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
   jpg)
   Submission process:
   To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
   for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have
   submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what
bad can happen?

--
Marcin


2013/11/6 Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 guoyunhebr...@gmail.com:
  i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many
  problems.

 I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is
 cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user
 experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the OS or
 other apps.

 You can either try to get the library into Nemo, or include it in your
 package or link to it statically. Those few kbytes wasted by this
 approach should be no real problem, but worth it, if it improves the
 user's experience and happiness with Sailfish devices.

 I remember people crying they could not update their N900 because of
 some library dependencies. Don't let this happen again.
 1337 Linux h4x0rz in need of obscure libs and stuff will always find a
 workaround to fulfill their needs, e.g. with 3rd party repositories.
 :)

 Keep in mind that Sailfish wants to be attractive to regular users and
 user experience should be highly valued.


 My 2 cents,
 Martin


 
  郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe)
  http://guoyunhe.me/
  在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com写道：
 
  It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
  modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an
  in-app-purchase
  system, it wouldn't be so bad :)
 
  --
  Marcin
 
 
  2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com
 
  I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
  to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.
 
  An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have
  their
  own applications, libraries and tools there.
 
  Just my 0.02
 
  Cheers,
 
  On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
Hi,
Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
Regards,
  
--
Marcin
2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto [1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com
  
Hi,
AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
cannot depend on store packages.
re, Jonni
__
  
From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
[[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
databases depend on the free app)
--
Marcin
2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov [5]coderusin...@gmail.com
  
Good point, thanks!
  
On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
  
And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
(after that you can depend against it).
re, Jonni

From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
[[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
HI,
AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
field.
re, Jonni

From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
Please more information about Harbour:
- it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
libraries,
required as depends for my appliction?
- does it acts as repository?
On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
  
Ahoy all,
Today we're launching Jolla Harbour [13]harbour.jolla.com, the
portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
started. To manage your account details, please visit
[15]account.jolla.com.
Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
Harbour. The submission process is the same.
Start with free applications:
At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends...

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2013/11/6 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com

 If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what
 bad can happen?

 --
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 2013/11/6 Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 guoyunhebr...@gmail.com:
  i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many
  problems.

 I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is
 cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user
 experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the OS or
 other apps.

 You can either try to get the library into Nemo, or include it in your
 package or link to it statically. Those few kbytes wasted by this
 approach should be no real problem, but worth it, if it improves the
 user's experience and happiness with Sailfish devices.

 I remember people crying they could not update their N900 because of
 some library dependencies. Don't let this happen again.
 1337 Linux h4x0rz in need of obscure libs and stuff will always find a
 workaround to fulfill their needs, e.g. with 3rd party repositories.
 :)

 Keep in mind that Sailfish wants to be attractive to regular users and
 user experience should be highly valued.


 My 2 cents,
 Martin


 
  郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe)
  http://guoyunhe.me/
  在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com写道：
 
  It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
  modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an
  in-app-purchase
  system, it wouldn't be so bad :)
 
  --
  Marcin
 
 
  2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com
 
  I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
  to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.
 
  An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have
  their
  own applications, libraries and tools there.
 
  Just my 0.02
 
  Cheers,
 
  On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
Hi,
Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
Regards,
  
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2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto [1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com
  
Hi,
AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages,
 you
cannot depend on store packages.
re, Jonni
__
  
From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
[[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
databases depend on the free app)
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2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov [5]coderusin...@gmail.com
  
Good point, thanks!
  
On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
  
And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to
 maintain
the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile
 side
(after that you can depend against it).
re, Jonni

From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni
 Rainisto
[[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
HI,
AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
field.
re, Jonni

From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
Please more information about Harbour:
- it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
libraries,
required as depends for my appliction?
- does it acts as repository?
On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
  
Ahoy all,
Today we're launching Jolla Harbour [13]harbour.jolla.com, the
portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
started. To manage your account details, please visit
[15]account.jolla.com.
Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Well, the whole problem with repos and deps is not about the user side but
the server side ;) Maemo.org doesn't expose DiffIndex like Debian does but
normal Packages and Release (maybe compressed). DiffIndex would greatly
reduce download time.

About the storing list of apps on-device... Hmm... In my debian repo, it's
~1 KB per package. Let's assume 1 million apps. It's 1 GB. Much too much.
But if only installed apps were added as a repo? Let's assume a user has a
maximum of 10.000 apps. It means 10 MB and is acceptable with such a big
number of apps. Nokia did a deb-exec field for sources.list and a special
adapter.

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2013/11/7 Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com

 Ahoy,
 thank you for all the interest in the Harbour. First of all a big apology
 for for the problems that we are having here at Harbour - we faced some
 unexpected issues due to a small storm that passed by and are working hard
 to resolve them.

 We will keep you posted when you can dock again to our Harbour and start
 submitting your apps.

 Thank you for your patience!

 The Jolla Store Team

 On 06 Nov 2013, at 13:06, Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com wrote:

  Ahoy all,
 
  Today we're launching Jolla Harbour harbour.jolla.com, the portal for
 submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
  You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able to
 install them directly from their Jolla phones.
 
  Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
 
  Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
  Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla Harbour
 landing page (harbour.jolla.com) or if you have pre-ordered your Jolla
 phone, you have everything you need to get started. To manage your account
 details, please visit account.jolla.com.
 
  Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
  You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla Harbour.
 The submission process is the same.
 
  Start with free applications:
  At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
 applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we will
 keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
 
  Binary package naming:
  You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary package to
 Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning at
 http://semver.org.
 
  Preparing your metadata:
  Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
  - An app icon for the Store  (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
 90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
  - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
  - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or jpg)
 
  Submission process:
  To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata for it
 and upload the binary and required images. After you have submitted your
 app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
 
  Quality Assurance testing:
  Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
 devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a few
 days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email address you have
 registered to your Jolla account.
 
 
  If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
 developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish developers
 mailing list at devel at lists.sailfishos.org.
 
  Happy hacking!
  The Jolla Store Team
 
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Well, indeed it's better than the hour is spent to provide better apps for
Sailfish than to do some freaky copy-protection, finally broken by some
talented hacker (If iOS is jailbroken, WAT in Win7 broken, why should
Jolla's library avoid that?)

... Or to spend this hour to bring xwayland! ;)

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2013/11/8 Attila Csipa q...@csipa.in.rs

 On 07-Nov-13 17:31, Michal Jerz wrote:

 Well, as Ronni wrote, using their copy-protection library is going to be
 entirely OPTIONAL, so its existence should not hurt anyone


 That will depend on what it actually does, and what kind of support it
 requires from the system. At the most benign level it can just try to
 figure out if the IMEI is authorized and such, at worst, it can interfere
 with system activities (how you guarantee a chain of trust if your
 copy-protection library relies on calls to user-replaceable parts of the
 system?).


  Rather than studying any researches, I'd prefer to simply give it a try
 myself and see if it makes any difference for me. After two years with the


 That's also a way of research :)


  Nokia Store preventing use of any protection, I'd really like to at least
 TRY and see what difference it can make.


 Certainly, I'm not implying what other developers must or must not do -
 everyone is free to make their own business decisions, good or bad (and
 since I still didn't earn a million $ by selling apps, I will not claim to
 be a monetization guru :). I'm just baffled at just how hellbent some
 people are on reducing the number of pirated copies without fully
 understanding the cost of development and dynamics of app-stores. And every
 hour a Jolla engineer (or 3rd party dev) spends devising or employing a
 copy-protection scheme is an hour that he's not putting towards other parts
 of the platform or his/her apps.


  One thing I know for sure is that in 2013, after all those who used to
 crack
 and release Symbian 'warez' got disinterested in the dying platform, sales
 of my Symbian applications actually noticeably INCREASED, despite the
 rapidly shrinking user base. So there must be some correlation between
 these
 things...


 Again, without proper context and research, the origin of that correlation
 might not be obvious (Was legally buying it in the beginning hard or an
 obstacle? Did Nokia introduce carrier billing or better payment coverage in
 some markets along the way?). The same applies here. I agree there is an
 inflection point, where the platform is too small for real piracy to exist,
 but then the question is - who wants to remain a small player? And if you
 get big, that scheme will not help you anyway, so why make it?

 Best regards,
 Attila Csipa

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Well, about Michal's point: I agree it'll be hard on Sailfish.

I think that the best measure against so-called piracy is a dynamic price
changing possibility as in AppStore as previously said.

But I won't agree about $650 - not everyone can buy first-minute device.
And take it in account that in some countries (like Poland) minimal pay is
$400. New N900 is half of that in Poland. And if you'd like to expand to
countries like Uzbekistan, Kazachstan, Ukraine, Belarus, ... than $1 is a
lot in these countries. Don't make the mistake HP/Palm did: assuming that
the world ends on EU borders (in their case it was East and West Coast of
the US)

The blacklisting might have detrimental effect on sales altogether - the
person won't be able to buy apps even if they change their mind, if they
want to undo their deeds - they won't be able to do it.

What happens if someone gets blacklisted from the Harbor?


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2013/11/9 Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com

 8.11.2013 23:40, Attila Csipa:

  On 08-Nov-13 13:48, Michal Jerz wrote:

 So it is actually a matter of *ALTERNATIVE COST*. Make it sufficiently
 cumbersome (and possibly also risky) and at least SOME people will find
 paying $1 simply EASIER and QUICKER than bothering with not so easily
 installable and potentially risky stuff.  Or opt for lack of any
 protection


 How about we try to figure out how to make the legal way Easy and
 Painless, rather than trying to figure out how to make software
 installation/usage (even) more complex and difficult?

 +1

 Personally I don't care about any copy protection stuff - all my apps are
 free  open source so I rather want people to copy them as much as
 possible. :)

 On the other hand I guess I would start to care if the copy protection
 functionality (if implemented in the end) limited OS/device functionality,
 leaked sensitive information, etc.



 Best regards,
 Attila

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla app store and copyright protection. Just make app store easier than piracy

[Marcin M.]

Absolutely agree!

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2013/11/9 Artem Marchenko artem.marche...@gmail.com

 Yeah, this discussion went too far, but then if I remain silent maybe
 point of view I don't like will influence Jolla sailors too much :)

 So my two cents:
 
 IMHO, the main point preventing piracy in Apple App Store is it's easy of
 use. It's just many times easier to search and tap buy for $1.95, than it
 is to search torrents for the same stuff.
 
 And that is hopefully the main razor-sharp goal sailors are working on.
 Going from unpacking device to buying my app should take less than a minute
 and a dozen of taps + maybe one time account creation.

 People who don't have money to buy will pirate anyway, they won't buy many
 apps anyway, so why optimize for then? All these stats that MANY% of
 Android apps are pirated doesn't mean at all that these apps would have
 been bought if copy protection was impenetrable.

 And yes, identifying users/accounts inapp is still useful, but first of
 all for easy in-app purchasing and *possibly* giving users discount codes
 for this or that purchase. Hopefully both things will work on the system
 level.


 Cheers and clear seas to everybody!
 Artem.

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 http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com
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[SailfishDevel] qt-components-qt5

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I'm trying to run an app using qt-components-qt5 (installed in the
emulator). It fails though. The output is:

 QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.

Using Wayland-EGL

Module 'com.nokia.meego' does not contain a module identifier directive -
it cannot be protected from external registrations.

MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString, QObject*)
Theme: jolla-ambient

LocalThemeDaemonClient: Looking for assets in
(/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch,
/usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch)

file:///usr/share/MeeIrregulars/qml/MeeIrregulars.qml:5:1: PageStackWindow
is not a type

PageStackWindow

^

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Problem with installing

[Marcin M.]

Well, it was indeed the problem. (No installing from qmake) Thanks!

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2013/11/1 sonyfe...@ovi.com

 Take a look at your yaml and see if there's *.desktop specified in Files
 field. Try changing the path to include the subdir.

 Also make sure you have specify where to install the desktop file in. pro.

 These are what I did to get the rpm packaging working.

 Regards,
 William

   *From: *Marcin M.
 *Sent: *Friday, November 1, 2013 03:00
 *To: *devel@lists.sailfishos.org
 *Subject: *[SailfishDevel] Problem with installing

 Hi,

 I wanted to try out qt-components-qt5 on Sailfish. I created a new
 project, copied packaging and .desktop to the folder of a Harmattan
 project. But now, while deploying, there's an error:

 Error on file /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop:
 No such file or directory

 What am I doing wrong? The root project file is a subdirs file, .desktop
 is in the subdir 'src'

 Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] qt-components-qt5

[Marcin M.]

Hello,

I am aware of that, that Sailfish native apps should use Silica. But it's
not my point in this case to switch I'm just experimenting with the old
com.nokia.meego components. They're available in the repos, so I tried, how
would the app basing on it work.

I installed it in Emulator only - I don't need it for building. I added to
Requires instead of sailfishsilica-qt5, but it's still not detected still
after installing.

Thanks

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2013/11/11 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch

 Hi Marcin

 Have you installed that package to both the Emulator and the SDK Build
 Engine? (and synced in the SDK Control Center?)

 My next guess is that you get this error from QML. Normally the qml types
 are available in a version of the package with import-declarative in the
 name (to be installed to both the Emulator and SDK build chain). But for
 qt-components-qt5 I can't find a import-declarative version of the package,
 so it looks to me to be C++ only ). But as I don't have experience of
 that package, I may be wrong.

 Sorry I have to dash off, otherwise I would experiment further ...

 Chris


 Zitat von Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:


  Hi,

 I'm trying to run an app using qt-components-qt5 (installed in the
 emulator). It fails though. The output is:

  QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.

 Using Wayland-EGL

 Module 'com.nokia.meego' does not contain a module identifier directive -
 it cannot be protected from external registrations.

 MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString,
 QObject*)
 Theme: jolla-ambient

 LocalThemeDaemonClient: Looking for assets in
 (/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch,
 /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch)

 file:///usr/share/MeeIrregulars/qml/MeeIrregulars.qml:5:1:
 PageStackWindow
 is not a type

 PageStackWindow

 ^

 What am I doing wrong?

 Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

Will there be OBS for Sailfish available?

Regards,
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2013/11/12 Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com

 Ahoy all,

 We managed to fix all issues with the Harbour and it is open again for all
 of you to dock there harbour.jolla.com.

 Few updates:
 We currently support only 3 screenshots but will improve this so that in
 the future you can upload more.
 The optional Cover image dimensions are 540x270 px

 IMPORTANT NOTICE:
 When changing the build target from i486 to ARM or vice versa, be sure to
 clean your project before building it again.If you don't do this you might
 end up deploying wrong architecture binaries of your application. Cleaning
 is done by selecting  Build-Clean project project or Build-Clean
 All from Qt Creator.

 Also please note that Qt Creator shadow building does not work for
 SailfishOS - yet.

 If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
 developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish developers
 mailing list at devel at lists.sailfishos.org.

 Br,

 The Jolla Store Team

 On 06 Nov 2013, at 13:06, Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com wrote:

  Ahoy all,
 
  Today we're launching Jolla Harbour harbour.jolla.com, the portal for
 submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
  You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able to
 install them directly from their Jolla phones.
 
  Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
 
  Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
  Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla Harbour
 landing page (harbour.jolla.com) or if you have pre-ordered your Jolla
 phone, you have everything you need to get started. To manage your account
 details, please visit account.jolla.com.
 
  Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
  You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla Harbour.
 The submission process is the same.
 
  Start with free applications:
  At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
 applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we will
 keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
 
  Binary package naming:
  You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary package to
 Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning at
 http://semver.org.
 
  Preparing your metadata:
  Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
  - An app icon for the Store  (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
 90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
  - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
  - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or jpg)
 
  Submission process:
  To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata for it
 and upload the binary and required images. After you have submitted your
 app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
 
  Quality Assurance testing:
  Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
 devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a few
 days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email address you have
 registered to your Jolla account.
 
 
  If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
 developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish developers
 mailing list at devel at lists.sailfishos.org.
 
  Happy hacking!
  The Jolla Store Team
 
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Saving state/config

[Marcin M.]

The plugin uses gconf, doesn't it?
Can we use it to modify any gconf entry then?

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2013/11/15 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

 both are easy. check Qt Assistant. examples and api reference are inside
 your Qt Creator ;)


 On 15.11.2013 20:48, Thomas Tanghus wrote:

 On Friday 15 November 2013 20:26 Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:

 use QSettings as Jonni said and register own component to use in qml, if
 need, or export single class instance via setContextProperty

 The latter sounds like the easiest approach.

 Thanks both for your good advice.

  On 15.11.2013 20:24, Thomas Tanghus wrote:

 On Friday 15 November 2013 05:44 Jonni Rainisto wrote:

 import org.nemomobile.configuration 1.0

 My n00bness shows again :P Will I have to add this module to my project?
 The SailfishOS-i486-x86 target only comes with org.nemomobile.ngf


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Re: [SailfishDevel] installing extra files via rpm

[Marcin M.]

Is it possible to install files directly via .yaml/.spec (without using the
qmake installs)?

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2013/11/21 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

 check __ARMEL__ or __ARM_ARCH_7__


 On 21.11.2013 21:37, Luciano Montanaro wrote:

 For the record, I also have problems,. whenever I switch between
 ARM/486 builds or between sailfish and harmattan.

 A slightly different topic...

 Is there a way to detect the kit in use from the qmake file?

 Currently, I add CONFIG+=sailfish on the build options when I want to
 build for sailfish... But this setting also gets lost often. If there
 were a method to detect the toolchain automatically from the qmake
 file that would be great.

 Alternatively, is it possible to add the CONFIG+=sailfish option to
 the .yaml file?

 Am I the only one that is trying to keep their applicaion buildable
 for sailfish as well as other targets?
 How are you dealing with this? Because my application.pro file is
 getting hard to maintain.


 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov
 coderusin...@gmail.com wrote:

 i have src/client and src/server and everything is built correctly
 automatically.


 On 21.11.2013 21:05, Artem Marchenko wrote:

 Yes, Qt Creator plugin trying to modify .yaml is a big annoyance to
 anybody
 with non standard .yaml (I have src/test subprojects and plugin is
 apparently able to work with one package only). How I solved it, I just
 keep
 resetting .yaml to version from version control whenever QtCreator wants
 to
 be clever and touch .yaml himself. Sure, sometimes I miss it, but most of
 the time everything's fine.

 Maybe same will work for you. Or maybe somebody will now post how to kill
 this .yaml modification plugin completely :)

 Cheers,
 Artem.




 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Thanks.
 Removing and adding kits seems to generate new .yaml file based on .pro
 and .pri.



 On 11/21/2013 11:11 AM, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:

 create sailfish project, or dont use yaml, use spec.

 On 21.11.2013 16:01, Wim de Vries wrote:

 Hi Artem,
 Thanks for the reply.
 Best way would then to change .yaml, I guess.
 But somehow there is no .yaml in the rpm dir.
 Tried to add an empty one hoping that qmake or rebuild would fill it,
 but
 remains emty.
 Any idea how to get the yaml created?
 Thanks.


 On 11/20/2013 09:45 PM, Artem Marchenko wrote:

 You need to mention these files in .yaml (or user editable part of .spec
 that's generated from .yaml).

 Basically here's what happens:

 1. Your project files are mounted to the virtual build machine
 2. make install copies data to the appropriate final folders on the
 build machine (not visible from your PC)
 3. RPM generation happens on build machine. RPM packager puts
 installed
 file to one or more (just one for a simple case) RPM packages according
 to
 .yaml/.spec and then it figures that some installed files are not
 going
 into any .rpm, so it gives you an error:
 Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:

 Cheers,
 Artem.



 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I am able to deploy via RPM. Or better, QtCreator is able to do it ;-)
 Still, I need to install some data files as well.
 pro file:

 data.files = checklistsdata/*
 OTHER_FILES += \
  checklistsdata/skyArrow-walkaround \
  checklistsdata/skyArrowEMERGENCY \
 .

 In the .pri:
 data.path = /home/nemo/checklistsdata
 INSTALLS += target qml desktop data

 As far as I understand this should be sufficient.
 Still deployment fails.
 Any hints?
 Thanks.

 Output when deploying:

 nstall -m 755 -p checklists
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin/checklists

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/main.qml
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/checklists/

 cp -f -R /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/pages
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/checklists/

 cp -f -R /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/cover
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/checklists/

 cp -f -R /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/controls
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/checklists/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/main.qml
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/checklists/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklists.desktop
 /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/eurofox
 /home/deploy/installroot/home/nemo/checklistsdata/

 install -m 755 -p
 /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/eurofoxEMERGENCY
 /home/deploy/installroot/home/nemo/checklistsdata/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/GEO1
 /home/deploy/installroot/home/nemo/checklistsdata/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/GEO2
 /home/deploy/installroot/home/nemo/checklistsdata/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/GEO3
 /home/deploy/installroot/home/nemo/checklistsdata/

 install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/qt/checklists/checklistsdata/GEO4
 

Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications

[Marcin M.]

Well, seems strange 2 me too.

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2013/11/22 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

 really?

 harbour-org.coderus.application

 how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages?

 why?


 On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote:

 Ahoy,

 In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to
 use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our
 attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to
 limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time
 limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans.

 The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of
 “harbour-“.

 The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that
 applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device.

 We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you
 have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as
 always!

 P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store
 requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops
 up.

 Happy hacking,
 The Jolla Crew
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Dynamically populate a ContextMenu

[Marcin M.]

Agree with Cristopher. This is a workaround, but it should be fixed so that
no manual tweaking is needed. Just as in c++ - private is private.
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2013/11/23 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

 Just dont use dynamic childs if you dont want, but let it to others ;)


 On 24.11.2013 00:03, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

 We should not have to make that choice.

 using an underscore property is the pragmatic solution, but I would be
 interested to hear what the Jolla developers have to say on this issue.

 Zitat von Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  You should use it if you want real dynamically created components.
 Or reimplement ContextMenu item.

 What would you prefer?





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Re: [SailfishDevel] Mer SDK

[Marcin M.]

And is it possible to get a scratchbox shell like in the Maemo5 sdk.

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2013/11/27 Matthias Fulz mf...@olznet.de

 Thank you very much - that was exactly the missing point !

 I successfully compiled and deployed a test app on the emulator.

 BR,

 Matthias


 Quoting Luciano Montanaro mikel...@gmail.com:

  I did some build directly on the SDK...
 ssh to the build machine, then check the mb2 command

 mb2 --help

 I think you need the
 mb2 build
 and
 mb2 deploy

 commands, though I need to get back to the SDK to tell for sure.

 Regards,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

[Marcin M.]

Or maybe just leave it to the user, whether to use a sandbox or not? (set
the default behavior and make override rules)

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2013/12/1 Sven Putze sailfish...@hardcodes.de


 
  2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to
 freeze to death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably goes against
 Mer/Sailfish philosophy though.
  Yeah, I would say properly tested applications  community feedback are
 enough and no artificial limitations are needed. :)
 But how deep can a tester dive into the app? Maybe it goes bad two weeks
 after first usage.

 BR.
 Sven
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Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

[Marcin M.]

But an important thing must be done: you can run a script, create a
start-up script and not mess with any security frameworks (like chaning mac
on Harmattan)
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2013/12/1 AL13N al...@rmail.be

  2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to freeze
  to death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably goes against
  Mer/Sailfish philosophy though.

 IMHO:

 Sandboxing is something that helps for security and QA, and if it's done
 structurely, it might even help developing and have apps communicate with
 other apps, because it might even enforce an API for each app.

 Sandboxing should not interfere with efficiency though...


 The way i see it, if each app is closed down from the outside, but it has
 a list of services for other apps (think DBUS, or whatnot), and it can
 use other apps services, and even export a list of permissions for their
 services (so that the user can inspect or even not give permission for one
 of the permissions), this could help security alot.

 of course, some generic services and permissions could be supplied from
 core apps or even system itself...

 a list of permissions and API stuff for services of each app, will also
 alow other people to see what kind of communication is possible with other
 apps, without even looking at their code or even documentation...

 it might even help in this way to create ideas that are original.

 plus, it will help security and find misbehaving apps...

 running as their own user in a separate cgroup is a first step, imho
 (policykit could give extra access where needed), but this general
 security would help for example with rpm's being emailed to sailfishos
 devices... if those apps are installed, at least they will be kept
 separate from the system...

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Serious request: please let us use C++!

[Marcin M.]

I mean: use plain Qt, get Silica lookfeel. Just like on Fremantle: you use
Qt, but get the gtk theme look  feel.

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2013/12/6 Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl

  On 12/05/2013 06:41 PM, Marcin M. wrote:

 A style for plain Qt which would display with the native look  feel
 (compare the unsupported and buggy meegotouch-qt-style) would be great too!

 Do you mean QML or QWidgets lookfeel?



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 2013/12/5 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com

 W dniu 05.12.2013 13:30, Sven Putze pisze:

  Hi,

 if such an example exists, I could make templates from them. I am sure
 that the folks at Jolla would integrate them ;-)


  That's the community spirit! Thanks Sven!


 Regards,
 Filip

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Serious request: please let us use C++!

[Marcin M.]

Thanks for elaborating! :)

Btw. will this payback always in QML (so let's assume Fremantle Qt 4.7.4)
or only on Sailfish?
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2013/12/7 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com

 On 06 Dec 2013, at 17:46, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com wrote:
  2013/12/6 Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl
  On 12/05/2013 06:41 PM, Marcin M. wrote:
  A style for plain Qt which would display with the native look  feel
 (compare the unsupported and buggy meegotouch-qt-style) would be great too!
   Do you mean QML or QWidgets lookfeel?
 
  I mean: use plain Qt, get Silica lookfeel. Just like on Fremantle: you
 use Qt, but get the gtk theme look  feel.

 (walls of text here again; tl;dr: try QML, you’ll like it, it is better
 [easier to write + faster to render] than QWidgets for implementing UIs)

 No, that won’t be possible, and even if someone were to try and replicate
 it (with much time and dedication, one can “fake” enough of it to look
 almost like Sailfish Silica, I’m sure), you wouldn’t achieve the same
 visual quality (note how the pattern of e.g. buttons and switches is not
 tied to the button and switch, but rather “lights up” the background when
 you scroll? cannot see that in screenshots, but only when you try it in the
 emulator / on the device) and performance (QML2 with the Qt Scene Graph can
 utilize the GPU quite well, and from what I’ve seen with Qt 5.2, this is
 only getting better).

 QML is actually quite nice for defining how the UI looks. See it as (in
 QWidgets terms) “more powerful versions of .ui files”. And don’t see it as
 “now I have to code my app in JavaScript”, that’s not the case - you can
 use as much or as little JavaScript as you want, and do the important stuff
 in C++.

 Granted, most of the time you actually have to use JavaScript expressions
 to set some property values, but the expressions look syntactically not
 much different from their C++ counterparts, and you get the property
 binding (automatic recalculation + update when a value the expression
 depends on) for free. And that’s also the reason why (short from moc-style
 pre-processing and custom language extensions on the C++ side) there is an
 actual need for dynamic languages like JavaScript in QML - you can’t do
 property bindings in “pure” C++ code, as the AST of the expression is lost
 after compile time.

 Yes, it requires you to learn something new, and yes, it’s hard in the
 beginning (it was for me) until you start realizing that you’re not
 modifying the UI tree from your C++ code anymore, but rather, you access
 the C++ code/state from your UI. The C++ code only needs to expose the
 state / content / database in a nice way (Qt models, invokables,
 properties, signals and slots, etc..) and then you can access these from
 the UI whenever you want.

 And if you get the properties on your C++ objects right, with
 notifications and all, you never have to worry when (for example) to set
 your button to enabled / disabled manually (mybutton.setEnabled(true),
 etc..), because you only define e.g. on the C++ side a property that tells
 you if you’re currently processing something or not (say a boolean property
 “processing”) and then on the QML side, you can easily say “Button {
 enabled: !myobject.processing }” and the button enabled state will always
 be right, and will be recalculated accordingly when the processing
 property’s value changes. This provides a nice way to split your backend
 from the UI and not worry about keeping your UI state in sync. You can even
 use that property in multiple places in the UI or not at all - the C++ side
 doesn’t change, which is nice (so you can e.g. have the same C++ backend
 for different QML UIs - one for phone, one for tablet, one for desktop,
 etc..)

 If that little JavaScript running there every time something changes
 sounds like too much overhead for you, think of it this way: The amount of
 CPU “wasted” by running JS in the QML case is saved (and paid back multiple
 times) by offloading big parts (not all) of the rendering from the CPU to
 the GPU.


 HTH :)
 Thomas
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Daemons in app store. And/or other ways of getting activated on event/schedule

[Marcin M.]

And for example phone speaker switcher as on Maemo (though it would be
better if it was provided by Jolla), changing mac address on startup, etc.
etc.

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2013/12/29 Alejandro Exojo s...@badopi.org

 El Saturday 28 December 2013, Artem Marchenko escribió:
  What would be the sailfish way to do it?
  - Harmattan-like hooking to alarm clock scheduler?

 Seems so.

 I was looking at the same issue, because I would like to understand how and
 alarm application should work. The Jolla one is not open source, but
 looking
 at the behaviour, where it doesn't need to be started, and is not even
 started
 for displaying the alarm (is displayed though the primary/general UI, in
 which
 seems to be a mode of the lock screen), I think it uses this Nemo
 framework:

 https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-alarms

 Is installed by default (or, on demand after the installation of the Alarm
 app), but it doesn't seem Harbour approved yet.

 However, I think in the future they might approve harbour- prefixed
 daemons,
 since the mention systemd services in their porting guide:

 https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Porting/Harmattan

 Sailors would provide more info.

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[SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK in /opt

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I've installed the SDK into /opt, but I'm unable to launch the emulator nor
the SDK VM - only the buttons are grayed out. Is there a known workaround,
so that I can avoid reinstalling into /home/$USER/ ?

thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK in /opt

[Marcin M.]

I'm using simply virtualbox-4.3 from the official repo:

$ apt-cache policy virtualbox-4.3
 virtualbox-4.3:
   Installed: 4.3.6-91406~Ubuntu~raring
   Candidate: 4.3.6-91406~Ubuntu~raring
   Version table:
  *** 4.3.6-91406~Ubuntu~raring 0
 500 http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/saucy/contrib 
 amd64 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  4.3.0-89960~Ubuntu~raring 0
 700 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ petra/import amd64 Packages

$ vboxmanage list vms
 WinXP {4bfb163e-8537-470b-81ac-542629875e44}
 SailfishOS Emulator {10d6d122-6581-42da-b6e0-562266fced05}



vboxmanage list runningvms shows nothing

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2014/1/1 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch

 marcin

 What do the following commands give you (in a terminal)'

 vboxmanage list vms

 vboxmanage list runningvms


 The first should show installed VMS, the second those currently running.

 You may also have the Virtualbox-qt gui installed somewhere giving similar
 info.

 Grüsse

 Chrsi

 Zitat von Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:


  Hi,

 Thanks, it was a (partial) fix.

 Now, when trying to build, I get:

 Virtual Machine 'MerSDK' is not installed!

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 2014/1/1 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch

  Hi Marcin

 The project templates have changed quite a bit since then, and I am
 fairly
 sure I have seen the same behaviour.

 Try a new default project.

 If that works, then you can copy across your c++ / qml files from your
 alpha project into the new default project.

 Chris

 Zitat von Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrz...@gmail.com:


  Well, I should've said it more precisely :) - I open a project created
 by

 the first alpha. I click the emulator button. It grays out, nothing
 happens.
 --
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 Marcin

 On Wed Jan   1 15:56:45 2014 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

  Marcin

 Do you have a project open? The Emulator and SDK launch buttons remain
 grey until you do

 Chris

 Zitat von Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se:

  That should work, I have it in opt and have no problem.
 
  Looks more like you have an issue with you project file?
 
  check the compile output/message screen if you get qmake errors or
  similar?
 
  also try build-clean all.
 
 
  On Wednesday 01 January 2014 11.12.58 Marcin M. wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I've installed the SDK into /opt, but I'm unable to launch the
   emulator nor the SDK VM - only the buttons are grayed out. Is there
   a known workaround, so that I can avoid reinstalling into
   /home/$USER/ ?
  
   thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK in /opt

[Marcin M.]

Well, after opening the VM in Virtualbox, it's gotten fixed. Thanks!

My installation log must've been overwritten, 'cause it has some
downloadable content stuff.

Thanks again!

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2014/1/4 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch

 Hi Marcin

 Did you get any further on this?


 Zitat von Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

  I repeat, on this installation I've never had any SDK install. The remains
 have been wiped with the system reinstall.

 What's strange, the virtual machine exists. See the attached file

 --
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 As the files for the SDK vm are on your host, it looks like something went
 wrong in the installation of the VM to VBox.

 In your SailfishOS directory there should be a log file
 InstallationLog.txt. Open this and search for MerSDK.vbox.

 Around this entry you should find lots of commands for VBoxManage for the
 SDK vm. I have pasted mine at the bottom of this mail.

 As the files are in place, perhaps you will be able to run equivalent
 commands via VBoxManage to activate the VM?

 Alternatively you might find it easier to add the VM using the VirtualBox
 Gui.

 You should find this in /usr/share/virtualbox Start it with ./VirtualBox,
 Then press the new icon.

 Grüsse

 Chris



 backup org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, setextradata, global,
 GUI/SuppressMessages, remindAboutAutoCapture,remindAboutWrongColorDepth,
 showRuntimeError.warning.HostAudioNotResponding,
 remindAboutMouseIntegrationOff
 Done
 perform org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, setextradata, global,
 GUI/SuppressMessages, remindAboutAutoCapture,remindAboutWrongColorDepth,
 showRuntimeError.warning.HostAudioNotResponding,
 remindAboutMouseIntegrationOff
 /usr/bin/VBoxManage started, arguments: setextradata global
 GUI/SuppressMessages remindAboutAutoCapture,remindAboutWrongColorDepth,
 showRuntimeError.warning.HostAudioNotResponding,
 remindAboutMouseIntegrationOff
 Done
 backup org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, createvm, --name, MerSDK,
 --register, --basefolder, /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk,
 UNDOEXECUTE, /usr/bin/VBoxManage, unregistervm, --delete, MerSDK,
 errormessage=Please shutdown the MerSDK VM
 Done
 perform org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, createvm, --name, MerSDK,
 --register, --basefolder, /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk,
 UNDOEXECUTE, /usr/bin/VBoxManage, unregistervm, --delete, MerSDK,
 errormessage=Please shutdown the MerSDK VM
 /usr/bin/VBoxManage started, arguments: createvm --name MerSDK
 --register --basefolder /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk
 Virtual machine 'MerSDK' is created and registered.
 UUID: 8d3ae826-1ce9-48db-a39c-e331f55997a4
 Settings file: '/Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk/MerSDK/
 MerSDK.vbox'

 Done
 backup org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, modifyvm, MerSDK, --ostype,
 Linux26, --memory, 512, --vram, 10, --ioapic, on, --pae, on, --nic1, nat,
 --nictype1, virtio, --natpf1, guestssh,tcp,127.0.0.1,,,22, --natpf1,
 guestwww,tcp,127.0.0.1,8080,,9292, --nic2, intnet, --intnet2,
 sailfishsdk, --nictype2, virtio, --macaddress2, 08005A11F155
 Done
 perform org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, modifyvm, MerSDK, --ostype,
 Linux26, --memory, 512, --vram, 10, --ioapic, on, --pae, on, --nic1, nat,
 --nictype1, virtio, --natpf1, guestssh,tcp,127.0.0.1,,,22, --natpf1,
 guestwww,tcp,127.0.0.1,8080,,9292, --nic2, intnet, --intnet2,
 sailfishsdk, --nictype2, virtio, --macaddress2, 08005A11F155
 /usr/bin/VBoxManage started, arguments: modifyvm MerSDK --ostype Linux26
 --memory 512 --vram 10 --ioapic on --pae on --nic1 nat --nictype1 virtio
 --natpf1 guestssh,tcp,127.0.0.1,,,22 --natpf1
 guestwww,tcp,127.0.0.1,8080,,9292 --nic2 intnet --intnet2 sailfishsdk
 --nictype2 virtio --macaddress2 08005A11F155
 Done
 backup org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, storagectl, MerSDK, --name,
 SATA, --add, sata, --controller, IntelAhci, --bootable, on
 Done
 perform org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: /usr/bin/VBoxManage, storagectl, MerSDK, --name,
 SATA, --add, sata, --controller, IntelAhci, --bootable, on
 /usr/bin/VBoxManage started, arguments: storagectl MerSDK --name SATA
 --add sata --controller IntelAhci --bootable on
 Done
 backup org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: {0,1}, /usr/bin/VBoxManage, closemedium, disk,
 /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk/mer.vdi
 Done
 perform org.merproject.mersdk operation: Execute
 - arguments: {0,1}, /usr/bin/VBoxManage, closemedium, disk,
 /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk/mer.vdi
 /usr/bin/VBoxManage started, arguments: closemedium disk
 /Users/christopherlamb/SailfishOS/mersdk/mer.vdi
 Done
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[SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I'm wondering, what are the advantages  disadvantages of Zypper vs
PackageKit. Why has the latter been selected for Sailfish as default?

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[SailfishDevel] qt-components-qt5 are missing theme files

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I tried to experiment with the MeeGo components, and I noticed that the
graphics for it are missing:

 Connecting to device...

 [D] QQmlDebuggingEnabler::QQmlDebuggingEnabler:1392 - QML debugging is
 enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.

 [D] QWaylandEglIntegration::QWaylandEglIntegration:58 - Using Wayland-EGL

 [W] QQmlImportDatabase::importPlugin:1697 - Module 'com.nokia.meego' does
 not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from
 external registrations.

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient:82 -
 MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString, QObject*)
 Theme: jolla-ambient

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient:138 -
 LocalThemeDaemonClient: Looking for assets in
 (/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch,
 /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch)

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-button-background

 [W] unknown:80 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:80:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-button-background

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-toolbar-portrait-background

 [W] unknown:89 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ToolBar.qml:89:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-toolbar-portrait-background

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-menu-shadow-bottom

 [W] unknown:82 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ToolBar.qml:82:5:
 QML Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-menu-shadow-bottom

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-menu-shadow-right

 [W] unknown:76 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ToolBar.qml:76:5:
 QML Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-menu-shadow-right

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-menu-shadow-top

 [W] unknown:70 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ToolBar.qml:70:5:
 QML Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-menu-shadow-top

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-menu-shadow-left

 [W] unknown:64 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ToolBar.qml:64:5:
 QML Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-menu-shadow-left

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-bottom-right

 [W] unknown:123 -
 file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/PageStackWindow.qml:123:13: QML
 Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-bottom-right

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-bottom-left

 [W] unknown:118 -
 file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/PageStackWindow.qml:118:13: QML
 Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-bottom-left

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-top-right

 [W] unknown:113 -
 file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/PageStackWindow.qml:113:13: QML
 Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-top-right

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-top-left

 [W] unknown:108 -
 file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/PageStackWindow.qml:108:13: QML
 Image: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-applicationwindow-corner-top-left

 [W] err_method_notfound:2082 - QObject::connect: No such signal
 QScreen::currentOrientationChanged(Qt::ScreenOrientation)

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-button-background-pressed

 [W] unknown:80 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:80:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-button-background-pressed

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-button-background

 [W] unknown:80 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:80:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-button-background

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-button-background-pressed

 [W] unknown:80 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:80:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-button-background-pressed

 [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:186 - Unknown theme image:
 meegotouch-button-background

 [W] unknown:80 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:80:5:
 QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider:
 image://theme/meegotouch-button-background

 [D] 

Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

[Marcin M.]

And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes) progress
just like apt or zypper?

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2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 Martin Grimme wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be installed.

 One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

[Marcin M.]

The manual is about the D-Bus service, and I meant the CLI interface -
pkcon.

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2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information you want.


 On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:

 And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes)
 progress just like apt or zypper?

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 2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 Martin Grimme wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
 installed.

  One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

[Marcin M.]

It does only:

Installing[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Starting  [=]
Refreshing software list  [=]
Querying  [=]
Resolving dependencies[=]
Installing packages   [=]
The following packages have to be installed:
 augeas-libs-1.0.0-1.1.1.i486Libraries for augeas
 zypper-1.8.3-1.1.3.i486Command line software manager using libzypp
Proceed with changes? [N/y] y

  [=]
Installing[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Waiting for authentication[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Starting  [=]
Refreshing software list  [=]
Querying  [=]
Resolving dependencies[=]
Installing packages   [=]
Downloading packages  [=]

And doesn't show in the geeky way as apt ;)

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2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  so? pkcon providin same data which pk server sent :)


 On 07.01.2014 00:23, Marcin M. wrote:

 The manual is about the D-Bus service, and I meant the CLI interface -
 pkcon.

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 2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information you
 want.


 On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:

 And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes)
 progress just like apt or zypper?

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 2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 2014%2020.07.52 Martin Grimme
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
 installed.

  One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Scriptlets in RPM hot allowed to Harbour

[Marcin M.]

So how else can we update sudoers...? No custom package manager could be
done without it.

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2014/1/11 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com

 Duty calls[1]...

 tl;dr: No postinst scripts in Harbour. chmod 666 stuff in /usr/ is wrong.

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 13:51, Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com wrote:
  11.1.2014 13:34, Alejandro Exojo:
  QA can check if post script doing some good job and allow it?
  If the script is simple, yes. If it is not, there is a serious risk that
  somebody adds a trojan horse to the phone.
 
  That would mean that somebody has to define what is a simple script.
 And that a
  problem in QA could mean a trojan horse is added to users' phones.
  And yet normal Linux distributions like Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu or
 openSUSE manage to check their tens of thousands of packages just fine…

 The following is just my personal opinion on this story in the form of a
 wall of text[4], in which you can choose to run into or not. Also, it’s not
 meant to be harsh, even if it reads like this in some parts of it. Just a
 (hopefully thorough enough) explanation of why it’s a bad idea to have
 postinst and chmod 666 stuff in /usr/ so that app developers can go back to
 creating great apps, understanding the reasons for not having postinst
 scripts and that it’s a Good Thing, and doesn’t conflict with What We’re
 Used To on Desktop Linux.

 All the core packages (well, most of them at least) of Fedora, Debian,
 etc.. are open source in the repositories, built on their servers, and
 could at least in theory be reviewed by someone. Try to get a package into
 Fedora or Debian that does “chmod 666” to some directory in /usr/share/ in
 the postinst script - probably not going to be accepted there.

 In fact, if you want to go all “Desktop Linux” on this issue, read the
 FHS[6], and let me quote RedHat’s documentation[7]:

   “The two most important elements of FHS compliance are: […] The ability
 to mount a /usr/ partition as read-only.

 In any case, at least for Debian, here’s the policy page regarding
 maintainer scripts in case you haven’t read it yet:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html

 Also, have a look at all those nice flow graphs (I especially like the
 “Upgrading” one) in the Debian wiki related to maintainer scripts (it might
 be different in the RPM world, but the point is that it’s not as trivial as
 it sounds initially):
 https://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts

 But - we’re neither Debian nor Fedora (nor openSuSE for that matter); and
 I don’t even know if we comply to the FHS or not - this is Sailfish OS.
 Don’t say “It’s an RPM system - I know this”[2] while not understanding the
 subtle points, and that a package in Debian/Fedora is different from an
 “app” on a mobile device. Where postinst scripts make sense on Debian for
 system packages, and even where they make sense on Sailfish OS/Mer for
 system packages (we use postinst scripts there, and for good reasons!),
 these scripts in almost all cases do not make sense in third-party app
 packages.

 If you think your package is that useful and needs to run as daemon and
 have postinst scripts, chances are you should be trying to get it into Mer
 or Nemo Mobile, from which it can then be picked up and be installed into
 the system - possibly even by default (yay!), because it’s so awesome
 (seriously, if you have such an app/middleware/service, don’t bother
 getting it into Harbour - get the middleware parts into Nemo Mobile and
 integrated well, then only push a GUI for it into Harbour [yes, I know
 that’s more work *for you* and will take “ages, but it will result in
 something much nicer and saner *for everybody*]).

 The problem in this thread is that somebody is trying to do something
 that’s a bad idea in general. The question should not be “How do I make
 /usr/share/$NAME world-writable?” (that is usually NEVER a good idea), but
 rather “My app wants to do this and that, my initial approach was to make
 /usr/share/$NAME world-writable, but that’s not allowed by Harbour, and now
 that I come to think of it, it’s probably the wrong solution - how would I
 solve this problem in a way that is acceptable by Harbour and still
 achieves my goal?” (and if you ask that question, I’ll be more than happy
 to help ;).

 By the way, the Harbour rules are not set in stone and up for discussion
 to be improved and more developer-friendly, so please post any issues that
 you have here. However, postinst scripts (at the current state where they
 are run as root at installation time) and world-writable /usr/ are NOT up
 for discussion (and this very mail tries to explain why).

 Just for the record, in case it wasn’t clear:

  - Files in /usr/share/ must not be writable by normal users (guess what?
 that’s a requirement in Fedora, Debian, etc.. as well!, also it makes
 debugging so much harder; there’s no way to just “nuke the app’s config in
 /home/nemo/ to start afresh“ if the app might have overwritten, 

Re: [SailfishDevel] Scriptlets in RPM hot allowed to Harbour

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

Sorry, I forgot about PackageKit! ;) I was still in the apt world :)

Regards,

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2014/1/11 Mike Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com

 Hi Marcin,

 On Sat, 2014-01-11 at 16:49 +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
  So how else can we update sudoers...? No custom package manager could
  be done without it.

  As I understand it you don't need to be root to carry out package
 management tasks on Sailfish due to the way it implements packagekit,
 which you can communicate with via dbus. Take a look at pkcon as an
 example of a command line packagekit client, you'll notice that running
 pkcon install foo or pkcon remove bar all works as the normal nemo
 user. In addition to this ssu can be used to add new repositories.

  You might also want to checkout the new warehouse client for an example
 of a custom graphical package manager:
 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1404764postcount=194

 Cheers,
  Mike.

  2014/1/11 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com
  Duty calls[1]...
 
  tl;dr: No postinst scripts in Harbour. chmod 666 stuff
  in /usr/ is wrong.
 
  On 11 Jan 2014, at 13:51, Martin Kolman
  martin.kol...@gmail.com wrote:
   11.1.2014 13:34, Alejandro Exojo:
   QA can check if post script doing some good job and allow
  it?
   If the script is simple, yes. If it is not, there is a
  serious risk that
   somebody adds a trojan horse to the phone.
  
   That would mean that somebody has to define what is a
  simple script. And that a
   problem in QA could mean a trojan horse is added to users'
  phones.
 
   And yet normal Linux distributions like Fedora, Debian,
  Ubuntu or openSUSE manage to check their tens of thousands of
  packages just fine…
 
  The following is just my personal opinion on this story in the
  form of a wall of text[4], in which you can choose to run into
  or not. Also, it’s not meant to be harsh, even if it reads
  like this in some parts of it. Just a (hopefully thorough
  enough) explanation of why it’s a bad idea to have postinst
  and chmod 666 stuff in /usr/ so that app developers can go
  back to creating great apps, understanding the reasons for not
  having postinst scripts and that it’s a Good Thing, and
  doesn’t conflict with What We’re Used To on Desktop Linux.
 
  All the core packages (well, most of them at least) of Fedora,
  Debian, etc.. are open source in the repositories, built on
  their servers, and could at least in theory be reviewed by
  someone. Try to get a package into Fedora or Debian that does
  “chmod 666” to some directory in /usr/share/ in the postinst
  script - probably not going to be accepted there.
 
  In fact, if you want to go all “Desktop Linux” on this issue,
  read the FHS[6], and let me quote RedHat’s documentation[7]:
 
“The two most important elements of FHS compliance are: […]
  The ability to mount a /usr/ partition as read-only.
 
  In any case, at least for Debian, here’s the policy page
  regarding maintainer scripts in case you haven’t read it yet:
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html
 
  Also, have a look at all those nice flow graphs (I especially
  like the “Upgrading” one) in the Debian wiki related to
  maintainer scripts (it might be different in the RPM world,
  but the point is that it’s not as trivial as it sounds
  initially):
  https://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts
 
  But - we’re neither Debian nor Fedora (nor openSuSE for that
  matter); and I don’t even know if we comply to the FHS or not
  - this is Sailfish OS. Don’t say “It’s an RPM system - I know
  this”[2] while not understanding the subtle points, and that a
  package in Debian/Fedora is different from an “app” on a
  mobile device. Where postinst scripts make sense on Debian for
  system packages, and even where they make sense on Sailfish
  OS/Mer for system packages (we use postinst scripts there, and
  for good reasons!), these scripts in almost all cases do not
  make sense in third-party app packages.
 
  If you think your package is that useful and needs to run as
  daemon and have postinst scripts, chances are you should be
  trying to get it into Mer or Nemo Mobile, from which it can
  then be picked up and be installed into the system - possibly
  even by default (yay!), because it’s so awesome (seriously, if
  you have such an app/middleware/service, don’t bother getting
  it into Harbour - get the middleware parts into Nemo Mobile
  and integrated well, then only push a GUI for it into Harbour
  [yes, I know

Re: [SailfishDevel] Division by zero in Slider.qml

[Marcin M.]

In the second case it's not 0, but 10.

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2014/1/16 Hendrik Borghorst hendrikborgho...@gmail.com

 Hello folks,

 I've noticed some strange behaviour in Silica Silder. If you set
 minimumValue=maximumValue , the handle gets invisible and cannot get
 activated
 again.

 if you've a look at (except from Slider.qml) you'll see:

 function _updateHighlightToValue() {
 highlight.x = (sliderValue - minimumValue) / (maximumValue -
 minimumValue) * _grooveWidth - highlight.width/2 + leftMargin
 }
 that there is a case where an zero divison is done. For example (
 min=Max=0 or
 min=-5 and max=5)

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[SailfishDevel] Status menu?

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I've recently installed Sailfish on my N950 and, well, I'm impressed, but
there's one thing that drives me nuts (and which would discourage me from
buying a Jolla). The thing is the status menu, and exactly lack of it. I
see no possibility of quick connecting to a wifi network, as it was in
Harmattan/Fremantle.

The settings have some wifi thing on the top, but it seems to be
enable/disable auto-scanning, and I'd like to always connect myself, never
automatically, no scanning in background... And the actual option is dug
deep in the settings.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status menu?

[Marcin M.]

It's a workaround, indeed ;)

And connect to internet shortcut isn't enough!

It would be ideal to be able to launch some status menu from the lockscreen
;) Changing brightness, wlan+mobile internet, 2G/3G switch are things I
very often use from status menu, and I want them to be at hand. Some
orientation lock is useful, switching availability from such menu

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2014/1/17 Oleksii Serdiuk conta...@oleksii.name

 On 17.01.2014 20:14, Marcin M. wrote:

 The settings have some wifi thing on the top, but it seems to be
 enable/disable auto-scanning, and I'd like to always connect myself,
 never automatically, no scanning in background... And the actual option
 is dug deep in the settings.


 There's a nice feature I accidentally found in Settings.

 Go to Settings - System settings and long tap WLAN. Context menu will
 slide out. Tap Add to favourites there. This will place an icon to the
 top of the main page of Settings app that will take you directly to WLAN
 page.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Applications Bug Tracking

[Marcin M.]

Nevertheless, some bugzilla should be created for a better bug management.

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2014/1/19 Hannes Rantzsch hannes.rantz...@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de

 Great tip, thanks!
 Actually, the issue I wanted to post is even there already :)

 Hannes


 On 01/19/2014 05:19 PM, Martin Grimme wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/19, Hannes Rantzsch hannes.rantz...@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:
  I was wondering if there is a bug tracking system for Jolla applications
  somewhere.
  You can use https://together.jolla.com for reporting bugs or
  suggestions. This is the official place where the Jolla developers
  look for feedback from the users.
 
 
  Martin
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status menu?

[Marcin M.]

And how to quickly turn it off then? The same problem appears. What I'm
missing on Harmattan and Sailfish is something like Autodisconnect for
Maemo :)

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2014/1/17 martin.gri...@lintegra.de

 Hi,

 just do something that requires an internet connection and Sailfish will
 popup a connection dialog. No need to go to the settings.

 Martin

 Am Fri Jan 17 2014 20:31:57 GMT+0100 (CET) schrieb Julius Loman:
 Yes, but we want to have shortcut to Connect to internet option in the
 pulley
 menu. :)
 Shortcut to WLAN doesn't really help. It just skips one menu level.
 
 Connect to internet should be definitely in the pulley menu on the
 lockscreen
 somewhere else quickly accessible.
 
 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 08:28:10PM +0100, Oleksii Serdiuk 
 conta...@oleksii.name wrote:
  On 17.01.2014 20:14, Marcin M. wrote:
  The settings have some wifi thing on the top, but it seems to be
  enable/disable auto-scanning, and I'd like to always connect myself,
  never automatically, no scanning in background... And the actual option
  is dug deep in the settings.
 
  There's a nice feature I accidentally found in Settings.
 
  Go to Settings - System settings and long tap WLAN. Context menu
  will slide out. Tap Add to favourites there. This will place an
  icon to the top of the main page of Settings app that will take you
  directly to WLAN page.
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

Just a thought - maybe using some legacy (i.e. Fremantle) theme could be a
fix. But I have no idea whether it can be done and with how much effort.

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2014-01-26 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch

 Hi Dietmar

 Zitat von Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de:



 Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it is very
 un-pythonic to use this mixture of two languages.


 There is only one language here, QML, which is an extension of javascript.
 Qt Quick is a set of components used by QML. This component set is further
 extended by the Sailfish Silica component set.

 I did not find QML itself that hard to learn, and there are lots of
 examples and tutorials on the interweb.

 The mix of 2 languages comes when need to do some heavy-lifting and have
 to fall back to C++. Having said that C++ and QML are well integrated.

 Zitat von Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de:


 ...there's quite some effort to stay compatible over
 multiple platforms 


 You have hit the nail on the head. Multiplatform coding is not easy,
 especially if you want to keep native interaction, and look and feel. We
 know that Sailfish is quite a bit different from any other platform.
 Multi-platform is not impossible, but it does involve compromises.

 I have been working for some while to port a Harmattan app to Sailfish.
 For the most part I have got it working, but not without some obstacles.
 Off the top of my head (and without going into detail), here is a list of
 differences I found between these 2 platforms

 1) Qt Version  4.7.4 -- 5.x

 2) QtQuick version 1.0 -- 2.0

 3) Mobility 1.2 -- Qt 5.0 equivalents

 4) Project Template Files C++ main function, Pro file

 5) Project structure

 6) Sailfish look and feel, user interaction

 7) Sailfish Specials: e.g Cover

 8) Missing QML Components / Extra Components,

 9) Component Property differences

 10) Library differences inc. Bugs

 11) Niggly Technical Stuff

 11.1) How a javascript file imports a second javascript file

 11.2) Location of LocalStorage DB

 12) Harbour rules (somethings are technically possible, but not allowed to
 be harbour compliant)

 13) etc 

 Grüsse

 Chris


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour compliant way to read contacts

[Marcin M.]

And wouldn't separate permission for each app solve the thing?
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2014-01-26 Bernd Wachter bernd.wach...@jolla.com

 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch writes:

  Hi Sven
 
  I am equally curious:
 
  Reading and rereading Bernd's mail I see
 
   ..contacts synced to the device from some third party services...
 
  I entered all the contacts on my phone myself (most via bluetooth from
  the N9). No third parties are involved at all. So surely my apps
  should have full readonly access.
 
  If the source is an issue, then the source should be an attribute of
  each contact, thus allowing apps access to kosher contacts, and
  barring access to those from third parties.

 That's what we're currently working on.

  Surely what an app does with the contacts is more important than the
  source of the contacts?

 We need to follow the terms of service from where we sync the contacts,
 or they might revoke our API keys without warning, which then would
 affect the whole userbase. In doing so we need to allow for creative
 interpretation of the TOS on their end as well -- we're the ones in
 trouble if they decide to revoke our API keys after all.

 TLDR: Lawyers are making our contacts middleware unnecessarily
 complicated, not all features implemented yet.

 Bernd

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[SailfishDevel] White screen and no errors

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I'm giving one more go at my Sailfish app, but when I try to run it, I get
a white screen only. The log is

 [D] QQmlDebuggingEnabler::QQmlDebuggingEnabler:1392 - QML debugging is
enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.

[D] QWaylandEglIntegration::QWaylandEglIntegration:58 - Using Wayland-EGL



and nothing more...


Why can it happen?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] White screen and no errors

[Marcin M.]

You mean unclosed brackets? With the MeeGo components such thing always was
being reported in the log...

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2014-01-28 Gabriel Böhme m.gabrielboe...@googlemail.com

 Hi,

 but an error in the QML file - *should* throw an error message on the
 console?!

 Gabriel.


 Am Dienstag, den 28.01.2014, 15:25 +0100 schrieb Luciano Montanaro:
  On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
   Why can it happen?
 
 
  Something similar has happened to me when a QML file cannot be parsed.
 
  Check those curly brackets! :)
 
  Luciano
 


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in
Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed.

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2014-02-11 19:07 GMT+01:00 Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de
:

 Am 11.02.2014 16:51, schrieb Marcin M.:

   Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try installing
 some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll there'll be no
 native lookfeel

  Themes would only change the look.
 Things like dialogs, multiple windows, menus etc. still would not behave
 as expected.


 Regards,

 Dietmar


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

Death? The folks on qt project said that qt widgets isn't gonna be dropped.

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2014-02-16 16:40 GMT+01:00 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch:

 Dietmar

 Sailfish is very far from being QML only.

 Sailfish like all other platforms based on Qt5.X supports a rich mix of
 C++, QML and Javascript.

 The exact mix is up to you, and depends on your own experience,
 preferences and predilections, and of course on what you need to do.

 The death of Qt Widgets is nothing to with Sailfish, that is q Qt5.X thing.

 Grüsse

 Chris


 Zitat von Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de:

  Thanks for the hints.
 I've come to the conclusion that for me it's not yet time to make the
 switch from N900 to Jollaas main device.
 (The main blocking point is lack of calendar synchronization with
 Outlook on a PC.)

 So I will probably have enough time to learn QML...

 But IMHO restricting GUI to QML only is a mistake.
 Such a limitation of tools stops software frombeing ported, written
 and/orpublished.
 The unique selling point of Jolla / Sailfish OScould be thatit's as
 versatile as a PC. But QML only reduces this very much to being
 just another Smartphone platform.If the N900 had been QML only,
 then I would have bought an Android device instead.
 Of course I understand that the resources of Jolla are limited and
 that priorities are somewhere else.

 Regards,

 Dietmar


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

Is Qt Quick faster on desktop too?

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2014-02-17 13:12 GMT+01:00 Roberto Colistete Jr. 
roberto.colist...@gmail.com:

 Em 16-02-2014 12:40, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch escreveu:

  Dietmar

 Sailfish is very far from being QML only.

 Sailfish like all other platforms based on Qt5.X supports a rich mix of
 C++, QML and Javascript.

 The exact mix is up to you, and depends on your own experience,
 preferences and predilections, and of course on what you need to do.

 The death of Qt Widgets is nothing to with Sailfish, that is q Qt5.X
 thing.

 Grüsse

 Chris


 Long before Qt5 : with MeeGo Harmattan 1.2 in 2011, Qt Widgets were
 not supported to develop for Nokia N9.

 So Qt Quick 1.0  QML is not new at all.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] HowTo package my resources (images/sounds/etc)

[Marcin M.]

Is there no debian/install counterpart in rpm, not to have use qmake
INSTALLS?

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2014-02-27 20:25 GMT+01:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  res.files = Home/*
 res.path = /usr/share/mygame/resourcces

 INSTALLS += res


 On 28.02.2014 01:14, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote:

 ok thanks

  and if I am not making a Qt application but just a plain c/c++
 application? Is there a way to define just the root of my assets folder?

  Let's say my tree is:

  c:\workspace\mygame\Home
 c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media
  c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps
  c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps\.
  c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps\.\.
  c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\sounds
  c:\workspace\mygame\Home\other\
  etc

  is it possible to say I want everything under the
 c:\workspace\mygame\Home folder?

  If I have lots and lots of sounds, images, fonts etc it's getting .
 (I cannot find a polite word to use) to manually add each and every file,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

[Marcin M.]

Is there any estimated time when paid apps will be allowed to Harbour?

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2013-11-12 19:45 GMT+01:00 Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com:

 12.11.2013 17:57, David Greaves:

  Last I heard the plan was to allow the Mer OBS to build SailfishOS rpms.

 Sounds great, fingers crossed! :)


 David

 On 12/11/13 15:18, Marcin M. wrote:

 Hi,

 Will there be OBS for Sailfish available?

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 2013/11/12 Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com
 mailto:karl.granst...@jolla.com

  Ahoy all,

  We managed to fix all issues with the Harbour and it is open again
 for all
  of you to dock there harbour.jolla.com http://harbour.jolla.com
 .

  Few updates:
  We currently support only 3 screenshots but will improve this so
 that in the
  future you can upload more.
  The optional Cover image dimensions are 540x270 px

  IMPORTANT NOTICE:
  When changing the build target from i486 to ARM or vice versa, be
 sure to
  clean your project before building it again.If you don't do this
 you might
  end up deploying wrong architecture binaries of your application.
 Cleaning
  is done by selecting  Build-Clean project project or
 Build-Clean All
  from Qt Creator.

  Also please note that Qt Creator shadow building does not work for
  SailfishOS - yet.

  If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
  developer-c...@jolla.com mailto:developer-c...@jolla.com, or
 report them
  to the Sailfish developers mailing list at devel at
 lists.sailfishos.org
  http://lists.sailfishos.org.

  Br,

  The Jolla Store Team

  On 06 Nov 2013, at 13:06, Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com
  mailto:karl.granst...@jolla.com wrote:

   Ahoy all,
  
   Today we're launching Jolla Harbour harbour.jolla.com
  http://harbour.jolla.com, the portal for submitting
 applications to the
  Jolla Store.
   You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be
 able to
  install them directly from their Jolla phones.
  
   Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
  
   Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
   Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
 Harbour
  landing page (harbour.jolla.com http://harbour.jolla.com) or if
 you have
  pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
 started.
  To manage your account details, please visit account.jolla.com
  http://account.jolla.com.
  
   Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
   You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
 Harbour.
  The submission process is the same.
  
   Start with free applications:
   At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only
 free
  applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and
 we will
  keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
  
   Binary package naming:
   You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
 package to
  Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning at
 http://semver.org.
  
   Preparing your metadata:
   Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
   - An app icon for the Store  (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
 90x90px
  images; more details to follow soon)
   - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
   - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
 jpg)
  
   Submission process:
   To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
 for it
  and upload the binary and required images. After you have submitted
 your
  app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
  
   Quality Assurance testing:
   Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
 devices.
  We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a few
 days. You
  will be notified on the QA results via the email address you have
 registered
  to your Jolla account.
  
  
   If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
  developer-c...@jolla.com mailto:developer-c...@jolla.com, or
 report them
  to the Sailfish developers mailing list at devel at
 lists.sailfishos.org
  http://lists.sailfishos.org.
  
   Happy hacking!
   The Jolla Store Team
  
  
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[SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK install to /opt

[Marcin M.]

Why do the mersdk/MerSDK and emulator/SailfishOS Emulator directories have
700 permissions? It makes the VMs unaccesible.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK install to /opt

[Marcin M.]

And btw. even after fixing the permissions, VirtualBox comes with the
following error:

Failed to open a session for the virtual machine SailfishOS Emulator.

The VM session was closed before any attempt to power it on.

Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
Component: SessionMachine
Interface: ISession {12f4dcdb-12b2-4ec1-b7cd-ddd9f6c5bf4d}

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2014-07-12 10:02 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 Why do the mersdk/MerSDK and emulator/SailfishOS Emulator directories have
 700 permissions? It makes the VMs unaccesible.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] In-app-advertising

[Marcin M.]

In what sense imei is unavailable in harbour?
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2014-07-15 15:57 GMT+02:00 Giuliettasw users.giulie...@gmail.com:

 Inei == imei

 Von meinem iPad gesendet

  Am 15.7.2014 um 16.55 schrieb Giuliettasw users.giulie...@gmail.com:
 
  There are at least two adservices with qt sdks:
  Smaato (qt 4.7)
  Inneractive (ver ??)
 
  But at the moment inei is unavailable in harbour.
 
  Tortoisedoc
  .
 
  Von meinem iPad gesendet
 
  Am 15.7.2014 um 15.28 schrieb Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi,
 
  What about in-app-advertitising  Jolla Store. Will we be provided a
 framework for it?
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[SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.

[Marcin M.]

It happened to me after resuming my Linux box from suspend. Maybe this'll
give some clue.
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[SailfishDevel] A welcome dialog and pageStack's operation in progress.

[Marcin M.]

I'd like to open a welcome dialog at startup which can be disabled by a
user.

Page
{
id: mainPage
function openWelcomeDialog()
{
var component = Qt.createComponent(WelcomeDialog.qml)
var popup = component.createObject(mainPage)
popup.open()
}

Component.onCompleted: openWelcomeDialog()
// ...
}

In fact

[W] unknown:90 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:90:
Error: Cannot push while operation is in progress: push

happens.


What's done wrong?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] A welcome dialog and pageStack's operation in progress.

[Marcin M.]

This way the dialog opens after closing the dialog. Worked it around by


Component.onCompleted:
{
while (status != PageStatus.Active) {}
openWelcomeDialog()
}

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2014-07-16 11:01 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  do not use onCompleted in this case. use status == PageStatus.Active
 instead

 16.07.2014 14:58, Marcin M. пишет:

  I'd like to open a welcome dialog at startup which can be disabled by a
 user.

 Page
 {
  id: mainPage
 function openWelcomeDialog()
 {
 var component = Qt.createComponent(WelcomeDialog.qml)
 var popup = component.createObject(mainPage)
 popup.open()
 }

 Component.onCompleted: openWelcomeDialog()
 // ...
 }

  In fact

 [W] unknown:90 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:90:
 Error: Cannot push while operation is in progress: push

 happens.


  What's done wrong?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] A welcome dialog and pageStack's operation in progress.

[Marcin M.]

Take back what I said. The workaround doesn't work. :P

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2014-07-16 14:42 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 This way the dialog opens after closing the dialog. Worked it around by


 Component.onCompleted:
 {
 while (status != PageStatus.Active) {}
 openWelcomeDialog()
 }

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 2014-07-16 11:01 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  do not use onCompleted in this case. use status == PageStatus.Active
 instead

 16.07.2014 14:58, Marcin M. пишет:

  I'd like to open a welcome dialog at startup which can be disabled by a
 user.

 Page
 {
  id: mainPage
 function openWelcomeDialog()
 {
 var component = Qt.createComponent(WelcomeDialog.qml)
 var popup = component.createObject(mainPage)
 popup.open()
 }

 Component.onCompleted: openWelcomeDialog()
 // ...
 }

  In fact

 [W] unknown:90 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:90:
 Error: Cannot push while operation is in progress: push

 happens.


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[SailfishDevel] Translating apps for SailfishOS

[Marcin M.]

I couldn't find the answers to a couple of questions:
1. Does SailfishOS SDK require external lupdate? If yes, where can the
command for lupdate be set (as of Mint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04), lupdate-qt5 is
not provided by any package)
2. If using sailfishapp_i18n, are the QTranslator steps still needed?
Should /usr/share/appname/i18n or .../appname/translations be used? If ` -
'%{_datadir}/%{name}' ` is already in .yaml is anything else needed
concerning packaging?
3. What's the recommended way of testing translations in the Emulator?
setting LANG in the environmental variables?

PS. There's no documentation concerning this on the sailfishos.org website.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Translating apps for SailfishOS

[Marcin M.]

Thanks

1. The problem is that Tools/External/lupdate doesn't do anything. I
created translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts, ran Tools/External/lupdate and
the pl translation file didn't change.

My .pro looks like that:

TARGET = harbour-myapp

CONFIG += sailfishapp

SOURCES += src/harbour-myapp.cpp \
src/settings.cpp

OTHER_FILES += qml/harbour-myapp.qml \
qml/cover/CoverPage.qml \
rpm/harbour-myapp.changes.in \
rpm/harbour-myapp.spec \
rpm/harbour-myapp.yaml \
harbour-myapp.desktop \
qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml \
qml/pages/MainPage.qml \
qml/pages/FontPickerDialog.qml \
qml/pages/WelcomeDialog.qml \
harbour-myapp.png \
translations/harbour-myapp-de.ts \
translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts
CONFIG += sailfishapp_i18n
TRANSLATIONS += translations/harbour-myapp-de.ts \
translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts

HEADERS += \
src/settings.h

What's missing here?

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2014-07-17 10:51 GMT+02:00 Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com:

 1. No, lupdate is included in the virtual machine used to bild your app
 and invoked automatically
 2. Just put your harbour-yourappname-xx.ts files into 'translations'
 directory and you're set
 3. Usually I install the RPM in the emulator and run it from command line
 after changing LANG env variable


 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I couldn't find the answers to a couple of questions:
 1. Does SailfishOS SDK require external lupdate? If yes, where can the
 command for lupdate be set (as of Mint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04), lupdate-qt5 is
 not provided by any package)
 2. If using sailfishapp_i18n, are the QTranslator steps still needed?
 Should /usr/share/appname/i18n or .../appname/translations be used? If ` -
 '%{_datadir}/%{name}' ` is already in .yaml is anything else needed
 concerning packaging?
 3. What's the recommended way of testing translations in the Emulator?
 setting LANG in the environmental variables?

 PS. There's no documentation concerning this on the sailfishos.org
 website.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Translating apps for SailfishOS

[Marcin M.]

And how can I run the mer's lupdate  lrelease from terminal?

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2014-07-17 11:36 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 Thanks

 1. The problem is that Tools/External/lupdate doesn't do anything. I
 created translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts, ran Tools/External/lupdate and
 the pl translation file didn't change.

 My .pro looks like that:

 TARGET = harbour-myapp

 CONFIG += sailfishapp

 SOURCES += src/harbour-myapp.cpp \
 src/settings.cpp

 OTHER_FILES += qml/harbour-myapp.qml \
 qml/cover/CoverPage.qml \
 rpm/harbour-myapp.changes.in \
 rpm/harbour-myapp.spec \
 rpm/harbour-myapp.yaml \
 harbour-myapp.desktop \
 qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml \
 qml/pages/MainPage.qml \
 qml/pages/FontPickerDialog.qml \
 qml/pages/WelcomeDialog.qml \
 harbour-myapp.png \
 translations/harbour-myapp-de.ts \
 translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts
 CONFIG += sailfishapp_i18n
 TRANSLATIONS += translations/harbour-myapp-de.ts \
 translations/harbour-myapp-pl.ts

 HEADERS += \
 src/settings.h

 What's missing here?

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 2014-07-17 10:51 GMT+02:00 Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com:

 1. No, lupdate is included in the virtual machine used to bild your app
 and invoked automatically
 2. Just put your harbour-yourappname-xx.ts files into 'translations'
 directory and you're set
 3. Usually I install the RPM in the emulator and run it from command line
 after changing LANG env variable


 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I couldn't find the answers to a couple of questions:
 1. Does SailfishOS SDK require external lupdate? If yes, where can the
 command for lupdate be set (as of Mint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04), lupdate-qt5 is
 not provided by any package)
 2. If using sailfishapp_i18n, are the QTranslator steps still needed?
 Should /usr/share/appname/i18n or .../appname/translations be used? If ` -
 '%{_datadir}/%{name}' ` is already in .yaml is anything else needed
 concerning packaging?
 3. What's the recommended way of testing translations in the Emulator?
 setting LANG in the environmental variables?

 PS. There's no documentation concerning this on the sailfishos.org
 website.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Is support for commercial apps a TABOO subject?

[Marcin M.]

When the Harbor becomes open for paid apps, will we be permitted to use
nemo-qml-plugin-configuration? Should we then put the apps' settings into
the Settings app or should they be handed inside the app?

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2014-05-29 9:22 GMT+02:00 Giuliettasw users.giulie...@gmail.com:

 Another cool thing could be possibility to have beta testing on end users
 (as for example steam does for games).


 Von meinem iPad gesendet

 Am 29.5.2014 um 2.32 schrieb Artem Marchenko artem.marche...@gmail.com:

 Hi there

  In the mean time, you have time to get your apps ready, tested and
 polished. Also,
  let us know what additional APIs you need for your Harbour app so that
 by the time
  payments are available, your app is ready to sail.

 As for harbour-related APIs and functions, subscription-based and
 try-before-you-buy would have been very nice [for me at least] as IMHO they
 motivate developers for continuous app improvement.

 I'd love to have platform support for something like WhatsApp is doing:
 have free usage for a substantially long time (a month at least, maybe a
 year), and then something like $1 or even $0.1 per half a year. That would
 motivate for paying only for the actually useful apps (you tried app for a
 long time and still use it) and for continuing development (if app doesn't
 improve, user uninstalls and goes for another app).

 Sure, how to implement it technically without touching user privacy too
 much is a separate story (who will check whether user still has the app
 installed/running?). One option could be to encourage implementing this via
 in-app purchase of subscriptions (a'la iOS?) that could be verified
 completely on device without contacting the home base except for the act of
 purchase.

 Cheers,
 Artem.

 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com
 wrote:

 Ahoy!!!

 We see the payment support in store as a really important part of our
 developer offering. We are currently working to support payments in our
 Jolla Store and Harbour but there are a lot of things for us to do. Our
 current target is to provide you the monetizing possibility durign the 2nd
 half of  2014.

 In the mean time, you have time to get your apps ready, tested and
 polished. Also, let us know what additional APIs you need for your Harbour
 app so that by the time payments are available, your app is ready to sail.

 Br,
 Jolla Store team



 On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:34, Mohammed Hassan 
 mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com wrote:

  On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 09:33:22AM +0200, tw_bolek wrote:
  [...]
  So my question is: is this some kind of taboo subject, or something of
 as little importance that for over 4 months now no Jollan has said A WORD
 about it despite numerous requests?
 
  A couple of my friends already gave up after waiting so long for even
 just any information, and I must say that I'm slowly losing hope, too.  We
 all understand and are aware of the enormous job Jolla has been doing, so
 we're asking for just INFORMATION about the progress, even just if AT ALL
 there are any plans to do it in a foreseeable future, and if so then
 knowing even just as little as if it will take a month or half a year would
 be all we need...
 
  There will be support for commercial apps and those will have copy
 protection. This was
  mentioned bt Rainisto long ago already.
 
  I cannot give more info nor can I give an ETA for that though :/
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to properly hide and show UI elements?

[Marcin M.]

OK, I thought it might be that the size of the inner elements is still  0,
so did like that (bolded changes)

Row
{
id: root
property string color: transparent
width: parent.width
Rectangle
{
id: colorIndicator
color: root.color
width: Theme.itemSizeSmall
*height: parent.height*
border.color: black
border.width: 5
}

Button
{
id: button
text: Choose a color
*height: parent.height*
onClicked:
{
var dialog = pageStack.push(Sailfish.Silica.ColorPickerDialog)
dialog.accepted.connect(function() { root.color = dialog.color
})
}
}
}


The Rectangle hides and so Button's label does. It doesn't work with the
Button. And after enabling and disabling the effect is similar as
previously. The button doesn't react if clicked. Seems I'll have go for
opacity, still the question is: why are these elements still shown?


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2014-07-18 16:15 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 It might be an option... I'll take a look. But why is the component left
 there? If it has height = 0, it should not be displayed.

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 2014-07-18 13:16 GMT+02:00 sfietkonstan...@free.fr:

 Add an opacity change from 1 to 0 inside your animation ?
 Or add a SequentialAnimation with a PropertyChanges to set visible at
 false at end of animation. Don't forget to disable reversible property,
 and write the reverse animation too.

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 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to properly hide and show UI elements?






 Visible = false is instant so it can't be animated. It won't look really
 nice without animation



 On 18.07.2014 12:42 Dmitriy Purgin wrote:


 so you try to hide a component by setting its height = 0? have you
 tried visible = false?


 2014-07-18 16:30 GMT+06:00 Marcin M.  marmistrz...@gmail.com :
  I'm want to display some elements only when needed. So I did it like
 this
  (the components are inside a Column):
 
  TextSwitch
  {
  id: switchTextColor
  text: qsTr(Override text color)
  checked: settings.overrideTextColor
  states: State
  {
  name: checked; when: switchTextColor.checked == true;
  PropertyChanges { target: textColorButton; height:
  Theme.itemSizeSmall}
  }
  transitions: Transition
  {
  from: *; to: checked; reversible: true
  NumberAnimation { property: height; duration: 200;
  easing.type: Easing.InOutQuad }
  }
  }
 
  ColorButton
  {
  id: textColorButton
  height: 0
  }
 
  And the ColorButton component is:
  Row
  {
  id: root
  property string color: transparent
  width: parent.width
  Rectangle
  {
  id: colorIndicator
  color: root.color
  width: Theme.itemSizeSmall
  height: Theme.itemSizeSmall
  border.color: black
  border.width: 5
  }
 
  Button
  {
  id: button
  text: Choose a color
  onClicked:
  {
  var dialog = pageStack.push(Sailfish.Silica.ColorPickerDialog)
  dialog.accepted.connect(function() { root.color = dialog.color
  })
  }
  }
  }
 
  Instead of hiding, the textColorButton is at the top of the Page. If I
 check
  switchTextColor, then it goes where it should be. If then I uncheck the
  Switch, the component below goes up, but the textColorButton doesn't
  disappear (screenshot)?
 
  What am I doing wrong?
 
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 On 18.07.2014 12:42 Dmitriy Purgin wrote:


 so you try to hide a component by setting its height = 0? have you
 tried visible = false?


 2014-07-18 16:30 GMT+06:00 Marcin M.  marmistrz...@gmail.com :
  I'm want to display some elements only when needed. So I did it like
 this
  (the components are inside a Column):
 
  TextSwitch
  {
  id: switchTextColor
  text: qsTr(Override text color)
  checked: settings.overrideTextColor
  states: State
  {
  name: checked; when: switchTextColor.checked == true;
  PropertyChanges { target: textColorButton; height:
  Theme.itemSizeSmall}
  }
  transitions: Transition
  {
  from: *; to: checked; reversible: true
  NumberAnimation { property: height; duration: 200;
  easing.type: Easing.InOutQuad }
  }
  }
 
  ColorButton
  {
  id: textColorButton
  height: 0
  }
 
  And the ColorButton component is:
  Row
  {
  id: root
  property string color: transparent
  width: parent.width
  Rectangle
  {
  id: colorIndicator
  color: root.color
  width: Theme.itemSizeSmall
  height: Theme.itemSizeSmall
  border.color: black
  border.width: 5
  }
 
  Button
  {
  id: button
  text: Choose a color
  onClicked:
  {
  var dialog = pageStack.push(Sailfish.Silica.ColorPickerDialog)
  dialog.accepted.connect(function() { root.color

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to properly hide and show UI elements?

[Marcin M.]

Oh, right. It was so trivial. I totally forgot about it. Thanks!

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2014-07-18 17:10 GMT+02:00 Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com:

 Dnia 2014-07-18, pią o godzinie 16:31 +0200, Marcin M. pisze:
  The Rectangle hides and so Button's label does. It doesn't work with
  the Button. And after enabling and disabling the effect is similar as
  previously. The button doesn't react if clicked. Seems I'll have go
  for opacity, still the question is: why are these elements still
  shown?

 QML Item does not clip by default.
 It allows for its children to draw outside Item boundaries. It's faster
 and usually useful.

 If you want an Item to clip its children, you need to set the property
 clip [1] to 'true'.


 [1] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-item.html#clip-prop


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[SailfishDevel] Adding colors the ColorPickerDialog

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

I want to make sure not to make mess in my app. I'd like to add additional
colors to the ColorPicker. Can I simply append the hexcodes to
ColorPickerDialog::colors? Or should I do it in another way?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Adding colors the ColorPickerDialog

[Marcin M.]

Thanks ;)

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2014-07-20 7:17 GMT+02:00 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi:

  TJC has answer for this:




 https://together.jolla.com/question/18240/more-colors-in-silica-color-picker/



 -kimmo



 *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:
 devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcin M.
 *Sent:* 19. heinäkuuta 2014 21:43
 *To:* devel@lists.sailfishos.org
 *Subject:* [SailfishDevel] Adding colors the ColorPickerDialog



 Hi,

 I want to make sure not to make mess in my app. I'd like to add additional
 colors to the ColorPicker. Can I simply append the hexcodes to
 ColorPickerDialog::colors? Or should I do it in another way?

 Thanks

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[SailfishDevel] How to combine multiple Flickables?

[Marcin M.]

Hi,

My app uses PullDown and PushUp menus. Besides, it has a SilicaListView
inside to support multiple views inside the app (different text displayed
on each view).

Page
{
SilicaFlickable // vertical one
{
 PullDownMenu{ ... }
 PushUpMenu{ ... }
 SilicaListView { orientation: ListView.Horizontal; snapMode:
ListView.snapOneItem; ... }
 }
}

1. If the menu has been used, most gestures are stealed by the top
Flickable and it's difficult to switch views. if a view has been switched,
it's easy to go back to the view. How to cope with this (make all swipes -
both horizontal and vertical of equal importance)

2. How to properly indicate to the user, that there are still views left?
Should I do it the same way as the PullDownMenu indicates? Simply allowing
to go out of bounds for a little?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to combine multiple Flickables?

[Marcin M.]

Thanks, I'll try it out.

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2014-08-04 13:58 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  set pressDelay: 0 to flickable and listview

 04.08.2014 16:42, Marcin M. пишет:

 Hi,

  My app uses PullDown and PushUp menus. Besides, it has a SilicaListView
 inside to support multiple views inside the app (different text displayed
 on each view).

  Page
 {
  SilicaFlickable // vertical one
 {
   PullDownMenu{ ... }
  PushUpMenu{ ... }
   SilicaListView { orientation: ListView.Horizontal; snapMode:
 ListView.snapOneItem; ... }
  }
 }

  1. If the menu has been used, most gestures are stealed by the top
 Flickable and it's difficult to switch views. if a view has been switched,
 it's easy to go back to the view. How to cope with this (make all swipes -
 both horizontal and vertical of equal importance)

  2. How to properly indicate to the user, that there are still views left?
 Should I do it the same way as the PullDownMenu indicates? Simply allowing
 to go out of bounds for a little?

  Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Platform icons

[Marcin M.]

You might simply want to scp all of them from the Emulator to your desktop
system.

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2014-08-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 martin.gri...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Am Mon Aug 04 2014 15:21:58 GMT+0200 (CEST) schrieb fasza2mob...@gmail.com
 :
  Hi all,
  Is there a way to see a list/dictionary  of platform icons, such as
 image://theme/icon-[s/m/l]-iconname; Preferebly with the corresponding
 pictures, but a path in the OS will do just fine.
 

 One way would be to install Cargo Dock on your device or the emulator and
 (Developer mode enabled) navigate to
 /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/ to see them all.


 Regards,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to combine multiple Flickables?

[Marcin M.]

It worked like charm but one more difficulty occured: inside the delegate
there's a TextField (it's much easier to handle this than a global
TextField). If in gains focus, it doesn't autoScroll at all (it'd like to
scroll inside the inner flickable). If I put second TextField outside the
SilicaListView, it scrolls perfectly. How to handle this? I tried setting
the main SilicaFlickable as a visual parent but it causes even more trouble
(visual layout broken)

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2014-08-04 18:24 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 Thanks, I'll try it out.

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 2014-08-04 13:58 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  set pressDelay: 0 to flickable and listview

 04.08.2014 16:42, Marcin M. пишет:

 Hi,

  My app uses PullDown and PushUp menus. Besides, it has a SilicaListView
 inside to support multiple views inside the app (different text displayed
 on each view).

  Page
 {
  SilicaFlickable // vertical one
 {
   PullDownMenu{ ... }
  PushUpMenu{ ... }
   SilicaListView { orientation: ListView.Horizontal; snapMode:
 ListView.snapOneItem; ... }
  }
 }

  1. If the menu has been used, most gestures are stealed by the top
 Flickable and it's difficult to switch views. if a view has been switched,
 it's easy to go back to the view. How to cope with this (make all swipes -
 both horizontal and vertical of equal importance)

  2. How to properly indicate to the user, that there are still views
 left? Should I do it the same way as the PullDownMenu indicates? Simply
 allowing to go out of bounds for a little?

  Thanks
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to combine multiple Flickables?

[Marcin M.]

/edit: Yes, the visual parent seems to be the Column (it doesn't have
maximumFlickVelocity, it does have spacing)

What to do with this? I have two items in the Column.

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2014-08-12 16:36 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 OK, I might've found where the problem is. a - b will mean b is a's child
 (a is b's parent (doesn't have to be a visual parent). Then

 SilicaFlickable - Column - SilicaListView - Column (a delegate) -
 TextField.

 So maybe SilicaListView isn't simply the TextField's visual parent?
 TextAutoScroller.qml has some code for multiple Flickables.

 Maybe it'd be a good idea to add an option to specify the Flickable to
 scroll to manually?

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 2014-08-11 12:10 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 It worked like charm but one more difficulty occured: inside the delegate
 there's a TextField (it's much easier to handle this than a global
 TextField). If in gains focus, it doesn't autoScroll at all (it'd like to
 scroll inside the inner flickable). If I put second TextField outside the
 SilicaListView, it scrolls perfectly. How to handle this? I tried setting
 the main SilicaFlickable as a visual parent but it causes even more trouble
 (visual layout broken)

 --
 Marcin


 2014-08-04 18:24 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 Thanks, I'll try it out.

 --
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 2014-08-04 13:58 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  set pressDelay: 0 to flickable and listview

 04.08.2014 16:42, Marcin M. пишет:

 Hi,

  My app uses PullDown and PushUp menus. Besides, it has a
 SilicaListView inside to support multiple views inside the app (different
 text displayed on each view).

  Page
 {
  SilicaFlickable // vertical one
 {
   PullDownMenu{ ... }
  PushUpMenu{ ... }
   SilicaListView { orientation: ListView.Horizontal; snapMode:
 ListView.snapOneItem; ... }
  }
 }

  1. If the menu has been used, most gestures are stealed by the top
 Flickable and it's difficult to switch views. if a view has been switched,
 it's easy to go back to the view. How to cope with this (make all swipes -
 both horizontal and vertical of equal importance)

  2. How to properly indicate to the user, that there are still views
 left? Should I do it the same way as the PullDownMenu indicates? Simply
 allowing to go out of bounds for a little?

  Thanks
   --
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to combine multiple Flickables?

[Marcin M.]

OK, I might've found where the problem is. a - b will mean b is a's child
(a is b's parent (doesn't have to be a visual parent). Then

SilicaFlickable - Column - SilicaListView - Column (a delegate) -
TextField.

So maybe SilicaListView isn't simply the TextField's visual parent?
TextAutoScroller.qml has some code for multiple Flickables.

Maybe it'd be a good idea to add an option to specify the Flickable to
scroll to manually?

--
Marcin


2014-08-11 12:10 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 It worked like charm but one more difficulty occured: inside the delegate
 there's a TextField (it's much easier to handle this than a global
 TextField). If in gains focus, it doesn't autoScroll at all (it'd like to
 scroll inside the inner flickable). If I put second TextField outside the
 SilicaListView, it scrolls perfectly. How to handle this? I tried setting
 the main SilicaFlickable as a visual parent but it causes even more trouble
 (visual layout broken)

 --
 Marcin


 2014-08-04 18:24 GMT+02:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com:

 Thanks, I'll try it out.

 --
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 2014-08-04 13:58 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:

  set pressDelay: 0 to flickable and listview

 04.08.2014 16:42, Marcin M. пишет:

 Hi,

  My app uses PullDown and PushUp menus. Besides, it has a SilicaListView
 inside to support multiple views inside the app (different text displayed
 on each view).

  Page
 {
  SilicaFlickable // vertical one
 {
   PullDownMenu{ ... }
  PushUpMenu{ ... }
   SilicaListView { orientation: ListView.Horizontal; snapMode:
 ListView.snapOneItem; ... }
  }
 }

  1. If the menu has been used, most gestures are stealed by the top
 Flickable and it's difficult to switch views. if a view has been switched,
 it's easy to go back to the view. How to cope with this (make all swipes -
 both horizontal and vertical of equal importance)

  2. How to properly indicate to the user, that there are still views
 left? Should I do it the same way as the PullDownMenu indicates? Simply
 allowing to go out of bounds for a little?

  Thanks
   --
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[SailfishDevel] How to use the QML/JS console?

[Marcin M.]

I launched the app in a debug mode, launched the QML/JS console, but any id
I type in is undefined. Why?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Commercial apps - when?

[Marcin M.]

Martin: free software is really great unless you have to pay for a place to
sleep and for stuff to eat, e.g. as a univerisity student. You don't get a
big revenue from donations unless you create something really big (e.g. the
Whatsapp clients). And you rarely create big stuff. If you need money for
such things, a payment in a store is superior to a donation method. Correct
me if I'm wrong.

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2015-04-17 0:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com:

 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:27:46 + Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com:

 Hi,

 We are still working hard on it but the tablet support work has been
 eating our resources from this area. But some good news is that we are
 planing to launch the donation support in Store in really near future.

 That's a really good news! Especially for for developers that don't want
 to place any artificial barriers (such as requiring a payment) between
 users and their applications but still want to give the users a way of
 showing their gratitude and helping with furter development. :) This seems
 to work quite nicely in the Mozilla extension repository and elsewhere, so
 it is really good the see it also coming to the Jolla store. :)

 Best Wishes
 Martin Kolman


 Br,
 Karl

  On 15 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Any ETA for the support for commercial apps for Sailfish? IIRC, it was
 the second half of 2014, :) so time long past :)

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Commercial apps - when?

[Marcin M.]

Peter, I'm not against donations. I only think that both methods are needed
and if only one of them is available, it's poor.

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2015-04-24 22:37 GMT+02:00 Peter legi...@gmail.com:

  I do not get you. Are you against Donations?
 I think it is great step. Of course it would be nice to have a Payment
 option. But not all software is made based on payment.
 There are tons of software that work by donations. Most famous one,
 without beeing the next big thing, is the Apachee Web server.
 Another one is the Famous J2EE Aplication Server from JBoss. Actually the
 JBoss Server is a Paradigm shift in market. They became markt leader within
 view years.

 I am not saying Payment stuff is rubbish. I think it should also an
 option. For Software that does not work like Apache, JBoss or Star Citizen
 (The next Big thing ...).
 But to have the Option is freedom. And freedom we want or?

 Cheers
 Peter

 Am 24.04.2015 um 16:22 schrieb Marcin M.:

 Martin: free software is really great unless you have to pay for a place
 to sleep and for stuff to eat, e.g. as a univerisity student. You don't get
 a big revenue from donations unless you create something really big (e.g.
 the Whatsapp clients). And you rarely create big stuff. If you need money
 for such things, a payment in a store is superior to a donation method.
 Correct me if I'm wrong.

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 2015-04-17 0:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com:

 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:27:46 + Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com
 :

 Hi,

 We are still working hard on it but the tablet support work has been
 eating our resources from this area. But some good news is that we are
 planing to launch the donation support in Store in really near future.

  That's a really good news! Especially for for developers that don't want
 to place any artificial barriers (such as requiring a payment) between
 users and their applications but still want to give the users a way of
 showing their gratitude and helping with furter development. :) This seems
 to work quite nicely in the Mozilla extension repository and elsewhere, so
 it is really good the see it also coming to the Jolla store. :)

 Best Wishes
 Martin Kolman


 Br,
 Karl

  On 15 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Any ETA for the support for commercial apps for Sailfish? IIRC, it was
 the second half of 2014, :) so time long past :)

 Regards,
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[SailfishDevel] Commercial apps - when?

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Hi,

Any ETA for the support for commercial apps for Sailfish? IIRC, it was the
second half of 2014, :) so time long past :)

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Commercial apps - when?

[Marcin M.]

Thanks.

And what would be the planned time for introducing paid apps? I'm not
asking about the exact date but about an approximate period.

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2015-04-16 7:27 GMT+02:00 Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com:

 Hi,

 We are still working hard on it but the tablet support work has been
 eating our resources from this area. But some good news is that we are
 planing to launch the donation support in Store in really near future.

 Br,
 Karl

  On 15 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Any ETA for the support for commercial apps for Sailfish? IIRC, it was
 the second half of 2014, :) so time long past :)
 
  Regards,
  --
  Marcin
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