On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Juan Lanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It also showcases a hardcore developer´s reaction.
Dilbert reaction to the harsh critic on his design is to diminish it: his
reply is almost a so
I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a
twist.
Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable
box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have
read/accept the TC or there are radio button for “yes”
auff.. will be in Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] end of November... will have to miss
this! :-(
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The online game - Eve Online eve-online.com - implements this for their TC
during the installation. When you scroll to the bottom of the text you get
the option to accept or decline - but not before. This is an installed
application rather than a Web site, but the principle is as you've described
I forgot to mention I also use both Leap and Yep to store and browse
the 2.5GB of PDFs and other docs in my reference library. I've tried
DEVONThink a few times and found it good, but not really suited to the
way I work.
Best,
Andy
It's such an insane way of thinking about TCs though because it
assumes people actually read them. Nobody does. At least nobody that I
know.
I once told a legal team from a bank that calling the legal info
important information was terrible because it isn't important to
anyone except
Terms and conditions can be important and they do impose legal obligations
so perhaps we should encourage reading them through good design. I bought
some clip art once and since my wife is an IP lawyer was always encouraged
to read the Terms and Conditions I discovered that I could use the clip
The same applies to the immensely popular and disruptive game World of
Warcraft. After every major update, the user is forced to at least scroll
all the way to the bottom of the terms before Accept or Decline are
accessible.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Steve Baty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Topic: 10-Minute Talks
When:
Wednesday, November 19th
Refreshments Networking: 6-7:00 PM – Food beverages will be
provided.
Meeting: 7:00 PM – 8ish
Where:
Autodesk, Inc.
100 Commercial Street
Manchester, NH 03101
Summary:
Presenter talks are strictly limited to 10 minutes and 6 slides
i'm a fan of moleskins and have been carrying around some form of
physical notebook since i was 14. numbered and catalogged, therye
great to flip through years later for reference but prove auful as
far as being any cohesive form of organization. i recently started
posted somewhat religously to a
Perhaps we should encourage people to read the terms and conditions.
Or perhaps we should not have quite so many terms and conditions and
everyone relax a bit more. Copyright is in a tailspin anyway...
Best,
Andy
Andy Polaine
Slightly away from the original topic, Chauncey I think you raise a
great point... I wonder if the lawyers who insist TCs are prominent
and must be fully 'eye-balled' to be accepted would be willing to
take it a step further and look at the usability of their document?
Maybe creating an index of
Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even more
complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to what was
mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to the
legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical relation to
one
Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even
more complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to
what was
mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to
the legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical
relation to
Great point made by Lane Halley on
http://www.cooper.com/journal/2008/10/joe_six_pack_is_not_a_persona.html
Quote:
When someone hears the name %u201CNora the newbie%u201D or
%u201CJoe Helpdesk%u201D they draw on past experience to imagine
someone they know, or project the context of other times
Hello folks,
is there anyone out there who has used or is using Liferay platform? How was
your experience with it and what are your opinions about its usability and
accessibility?
Thanks,
Maria
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Can't we make that the lawyers problem? ;-)
Seriously, I wasn't thinking of re-writing the doc, more like a
layman's reference... take for example Chauncey's case above about
limited use of the clip art graphic. That's really important
information that most people will miss. So the reference
Hi Guys,
The company I work for is a very lean, fast moving company, and we're
constantly looking for ways to tighten our product life cycle timelines.
One thing we've noticed in the last few months is that IxDA (and general
design practitioners) have been extremely valuable not just during the
Actually
Terms and conditions are complex and in the USA, states generally follow the
UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code, which generally harmonizes all the
different laws into one that is complex, but can be used across state
borders and one that lawyers recognize across the USA. So, complex
Will you be posting the slides after the event?
On 10/27/08 9:34 AM, Kyle Soucy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Topic: 10-Minute Talks
When:
Wednesday, November 19th
Refreshments Networking: 6-7:00 PM Food beverages will be
provided.
Meeting: 7:00 PM 8ish
Where:
Autodesk, Inc.
100
Bravo. Having an IxD/UX person as part of the QA process is fantastic - even
better is having the QA person involved upfront in the design spec/func spec
writing process b/c then they are intimately familiar with the design
trade-offs, compromises and root goals of any particular user scenario and
I hadn't even thought of the back of the hand -- that's great. I once
had both my thumbs broken at the same time and walked about with both
arms in casts -- had I been so inclined, they might have made for a
great note-taking device, and a semi-public one at that. In fact the
history of
I believe there is a big problem with many tools available when it
comes to storing your inspiration. It might take a week, month or
even a couple of years but in the end you%u2019ll end up losing most
of the context and reasons why you saved a piece of inspiration in
the first place. No matter if
Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? How
about refer back to their ideas that the posted to Twitter to follow up -
with images attached? Just trying to get a feel for all the ways we keep
track of the constant assault on our senses, how we process, store, and
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Will Evans wrote:
Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to
themselves?
I use 37 Signals' Tada-List to record ideas for blog posts. They have
an iPhone-optimized version that I use when out and about.
Jack L. Moffett
Interaction
I have started using my iphone this way. I use the Unote (younote?)
application to basically jot down random thoughts. I have a lot of these
while driving for some reason, and if I don't write them down they
evaporate. The key advantage of the iphone is that I always have it with
me, unlike a
Here some random thoughts.
It occurs to me that you could do something like Creative Commons, for
instance: the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported license has a
proper legal document at
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/legalcode but they also have
the Human
On that same note - does anyone email themselves notes to GooToDo? They have
a nice way of emailing yourself todo's - but the same could be done for
ideas - anyone using that tool as well?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Jack Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:58 AM,
At any given moment, Bart Simpson could be able to answer all the asked
questions to impersonate his father and purchase online an expensive Tommy
Daly relique.
As of the IP, in the company I work for we are hundreds, and we all share
the same IP, or few IPs. It's at home that we share a public
Hi Damon,
I've been involved in this type of work so much that sometimes it
makes my head spin. To echo Will's bravo and also his explanation of
the benefits which you are seeming to see yourself. I've also found
that being a part of the QA process has helped me to build closer
relationships with
Hi Rein,
I believe as Interaction Designer you should work closely with your
visual designers (and developers, industrial designers, etc). In my
opinion this part can never be missing. Some interaction problems can
best be solved graphically or can better be combined with a nice piece
of visual
In the UK there is a campaign to make legal contracts simpler to understand.
See:-
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/
they have a list of guides available here:-
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/guides.htm
and a software tool for inspecting websites.
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/DrivelDefence.html
Hello
there,
For those
of you interested in e-Inclusion, Design for All/Universal Design, here is an
event that will take place in Florence Italy, in summer 2009.
Few topics:
Technological innovation in Assistive Technology;The need for
interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary
At 2:19 PM +0100 10/27/08, Andy Polaine wrote:
snip
Sigh.
p.s. To answer your question, sort of, Apple's installers do
something similar. They show a screen of legal cack, then when you
just hit continue it pops up an Accept Don't Accept alert that
you have to click on one of to continue.
Hi all,
We are organizing a one-day workshop at CHI'09 (April 4, in Boston)
focusing on the development of free, publicly accessible multimodal
datasets recorded in the homes of volunteer participants. Although
this work was initially motivated by the lack of high quality sensor
data
Please contact Penny Curtis if you're interested. Blue Coat Systems is #1 in
secure content and application delivery marketplace – with over 8,000
worldwide clients. They are looking to expand their UX Design team in
Waterloo because they are in the process of a major re-write of their custom
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Commission Junction is using that kind of TC form in the application
process.
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Welcome to the
Perfect timing for this discussion. I get to copy paste my thoughts from
another list. :)
I think this is an interesting area for us usability folks to talk about.
Does legalese really have to be written in a style that is inaccessible to
99% of the population?
I would argue that there is a
Hi Damon,
During the design phase I conduct reviews regularly with the leads
from Development, QA and (System) Architecture and this has been very
successful so far. I'm also the reviewer for the QA test plans.
Before my arrival (the IxD position is brand new at this company) a
very large number
The underlying issue here is how legal forms are evaluated. We can evaluate
whether people understand the terms, but that is not the same as the
evaluation that goes on in court. So, apart from all the opinion about
reading comprehension, is there any empirical data on the efficacy of
simplified
Hello members,
as a recent graduate buying more books and reading these during my
sparetime I have realized that I am a researcher. (By the way the book
written by Bill Moggridge is amazing! `Designing Interactions`)
At the moment I am jobless since most corporations wish to hire an ID, UEA
or UA
There is a way to ensure users actually read the TC:
1. Place a link or button labeled I read the Terms Conditions
at the bottom of the terms...
2. ...leading to a multiple choice test on legal issues, that users
must pass in order to continue.
For extra points, change the questions on page
On Bruce Tognazzi's words:
it is the job of every designer to blunt and, where possible,
eliminate the lawyer's attempts to sabotage your company's
products.
Full article: http://www.asktog.com/columns/049Lawyers.html
--
Santiago Bustelo // icograma
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Yes, unless the people doing the hiring have confused interaction
design with visual design.
However, you will probably be better off (and more marketable) if you
know about visual design, but I see it as more akin to having
understanding something about programming (or whatever medium you're
As a side note, I recently met with a recruiter for an interaction
design job. In the job description they asked for people who could
research requirements/competitors, define the behavior of XYZ in
wireframes and written documentation, and conduct user testing, etc.
However, for all practical
I know that somebody has posted UCD processes diagrams on the web but can't
find in the archive where they are posted.
Any ideas?
-Wendy
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At 1:23 PM -0400 10/27/08, Chauncey Wilson wrote:
The underlying issue here is how legal forms are evaluated. We can evaluate
whether people understand the terms, but that is not the same as the
evaluation that goes on in court. So, apart from all the opinion about
reading comprehension, is
Not sure how this would shake out in terms of actual classes but from
the student perspective, I would say that the highest priorities
while in school are: learn fundamentals that will be useful
regardless of how you choose to specialize (25%), expand your mind by
learning about the obscurities of
Hello Jonas Loevgren,
i agree with you. I myself isnt a (great) visual designer yet I was
able to communicate your `fluency` concept in my Low Involvement
Interaction solution. (Thesis)
Your work was suggested to me by my thesis advisor Tomas Sokoler.
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Katie Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Similar issues exist throughout law...what sounds like the plain English
translation may carry or fail to carry very particular and important pieces
of the meaning of the statement.
kt
That's a great point Katie. It
Slightly off topic...(apologies)...
Ivrea was financially out reach for me a few years ago, but I'm
considering [EMAIL PROTECTED] for next fall. If there are any, I'd be
interested in hearing from alums, or others with insights into the
program. My biggest concern is the practicality of its
Original question about 'how to force/ensure TC perusal prior to
agreement':Years ago (early 2000's) I was branded by this experience where a
TC dialogue box broke my expectations: After several attempts to click
through, I figured out i *had to* scroll all the way through the TC text
box before I
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Terms and Conditions with a twist
In the UK there is a campaign to make legal contracts simpler to
understand.
See:-
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/
they have a list of guides available here:-
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/guides.htm
and a software tool
Hi Maria,
Yes, we (the company I work at) has been using Liferay (LR) with a few of
our websites. LR was 'sold' to our company (as a CMS) on
its drop-and-drag feature (sheer brilliance I was told) - being able to move
content elements at will. This has led to all sorts of problems - not worth
Started using Twitter a couple of weeks ago. For example it is nice to
see what people are doing in between their blog posts. Other than that
when given the chance of getting to know some very interesting people
is always something you at least try.
My twitter: www.twitter.com/aapjerockdt
Grtz,
I have been leaving myself voice mails for 15 years for exactly this
purpose -- it works best as a way of synthesizing one's thoughts
because of course you dont want to leave too long a vmail (knowing
that you'll have to listen to it later ;-0). I also take long showers
and talk to myself
Plain English campaign - can we apply that in academia too please?
Here in Germany the AGB (allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen - got to love
German nouns) are ridiculously long and companies frequently like to
wriggle out of responsibility by citing them and pointing out that you
should read
Evernote has a great iPhone app that lets you sync text, photo and
voice notes with the desktop and web editions of Evernote.
The only thing I miss from evernote is the ability to take a photo
and draw notes on the photo.
Andreas
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recorrder of some kind so that I can walk up and down the haight,
muttering and brainstorming. I'm not kidding. I used to do this to
try to capture others muttering -- once had a hapless and
unsuspecting dude lean into the left channel of my stereo sonic
studios mikes -- I hid them in a
Sometimes it is worth just showing the Terms and Conditions for the
purpose of capturing the user's click-through that makes it all
worthwhile.
It is impossible to make certain that users will read the terms and
conditions. However, with the applications I have worked on, it seems that
the
I've been doing this with my xv6800 (and before that, the 6700). I take
pictures of stuff then when I sync, they get transferred to my incoming
photo directory for me to sort/massage as needed.
I've also started shooting video this way -- the xv6800 camera is 2M and
shoots some pretty nice
Andy Polaine wrote:
I have 33 notebooks going all the way back to my university days when I
first started numbering them - these days they're mostly Moleskines or
Miquel Rius ones (if I can my hands on them). It's not a terribly formal
process though. They switch from being notebooks to
Here are things in my apartment that I interact with that do not
really have (great) visual designs:
Microwave
Digital display on my stove
DVR/cable menu
DVD/VHS player
TV menu
iPod - maybe the one exception...but really it's mostly text
mp3 player
alarm clock
Here's stuff at work:
Printer/Copy
Cindy,
I'd love your feedback on the msg i posted to twitter Oct 24 --
because you clearly read tweets with attention, and with a sense of
narrative -- and the person you described is interesting in what they
reveal -- my own posts are not nearly as content rich -- in fact are
often
Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words.
The result: For sale: baby shoes, never used.
Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel?
andreas
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I love that a simple strip like this--even if at the surface is
deliberately making a jab at design--illustrates the daily
struggle/compromise between 2 or more parties.
Sometimes Dilbert cartoons don't strike the right cord with me, but
we just had a conversation between our visual designers
Found: Baby. Needs shoes.
;-)
a
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:41 PM, Andreas Ringdal wrote:
Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words.
The result: For sale: baby shoes, never used.
Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel?
andreas
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Wicked sense of wordplay? Ukelele?
I guess Bill DeRouchey!
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