Re: [Emc-users] One More Homing Question

2008-10-16 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:21:14 -0700, you wrote: If you have been machining that long and never crashed you are an exception. No - Just careful. Last machine crash I saw cost $30k to fix, the two people involved were both sacked. It is common knowledge that a new CNC lathe will not work properly

[Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Keil Hillman
I can't get hm2_7i43 and hostmot2 modules to init 7i43 card following firmware load. Been working on this for past month thinking the problem was hardware parallel ports, however the error seems to be the same invalid cookie, got 0xBCFE80FE, expected 0x55AACAFE. The read data or got 0xBCFE80FE

Re: [Emc-users] Homing noise/ limit switch question?

2008-10-16 Thread John Thornton
Bryce, If this is a typical micro switch you can move one wire and use the N/C set of contacts and that is the prefered way to connect a limit switch. Then change back to Both Limit + Home and when you start up if you get joint 0 limit switch error (and your not sitting on the limit switch)

Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill

2008-10-16 Thread John Thornton
John, The easy way is to use the Stepconf Wizard to generate a config for you. There is a Sherline Driver choice and a Sherline Outputs button that does all the hard work for you as you page through the wizard. Take a gander at the getting started guide. It tells you how to create a desktop

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Keil Hillman wrote: I can't get hm2_7i43 and hostmot2 modules to init 7i43 card following firmware load. Been working on this for past month thinking the problem was hardware parallel ports, however the error seems to be the same invalid cookie, got 0xBCFE80FE, expected 0x55AACAFE. The read

Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill

2008-10-16 Thread jdomville
My Sherline mill will not run whwn I select Sherline as the driver type. I have to use OTHER. Further along the wizard you again select the output to be Sherline and that works. I found the not in use selection for the limit switches and also had to enter different axis movements to get the

Re: [Emc-users] Axis question

2008-10-16 Thread Dean Bredenbeck
Sorry about the late comment on this thread. New to EMC. Another data point for future EMC enhancements related to feedhold/stopping/restarting a program.. On a Siemens Acramatic 2100 control (Cin-Mil vertical machining center), a spindle stop shuts down all axis movement, stops the

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and the Sherline mill

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
Ok ... thanks John -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:25 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and the Sherline mill On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 04:38:09AM -0400, John Domville wrote: No limit

Re: [Emc-users] Variable File Question

2008-10-16 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 04:42 PM 10/15/2008, you wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:16:21PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Any var that exists in the var file at startup will be saved, but I don't think that new ones are created in the file. So if you set #4327=1 in your G-code, but #4327 wasn't in the var

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and the Sherline mill

2008-10-16 Thread Jeff Epler
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 04:38:09AM -0400, John Domville wrote: No limit switches. Where do I find the step config ? Was that part of the machine config I set up originally through the config wizard? Yes. If you are using stepconf, it's the page entitled parallel port setup.

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and the Sherline mill

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
No limit switches. Where do I find the step config ? Was that part of the machine config I set up originally through the config wizard? John -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:26 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Axis question

2008-10-16 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 08:10 AM 10/16/2008, you wrote: Sorry about the late comment on this thread. New to EMC. Another data point for future EMC enhancements related to feedhold/stopping/restarting a program.. On a Siemens Acramatic 2100 control (Cin-Mil vertical machining center), a spindle stop shuts

[Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
Well, we have been progressing well in the learning curve for my new SHERLINE mill. I have been running the mill in CNC manual mode - Axis (EMC2) and noticed that the indicated distance is not the same as the actual tool movement. When I set up my config file I cannot use the SHERLINE DRIVER

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:32 -0400, John Domville wrote: ... snip Z-476 (way off, gave up poking different numbers in) Is there a recommended procedure / formula for this type of calibration? John Domville Elmira NY Check out the documentation page, section 1.3.9.3 here:

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Keil Hillman wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:55:01 -0700 From: Keil Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Keil Hillman
Thanks for the help. Some answers below. -Original Message- From: Sebastian Kuzminsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:21 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie? Keil Hillman wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
Snip... Also , I've loaded firmware via sc7i43p.exe and read with rpo.exe using the same cable setup and return value seemed reasonable. The DOS tools from Mesa have little or no documentation regarding firmware verify, so I'm just guessing if loading succeeded. snip... you might try

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 13:27 -0400, John Domville wrote: Thanks for the information. Where do I check the output scale? Somewhere in the config file? John Yes, in the config_name.ini file in the /home/user_name/emc2/configs/config_name/ directory. Each AXIS section in the file will have a

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Keil Hillman
-Original Message- From: Peter C. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie? On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Keil Hillman wrote: Date: Thu, 16

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Alex Joni
OUTPUT_SCALE is only used on servo systems, and even there it's not mandatory. INPUT_SCALE will be dropped in favour of SCALE on stepper systems, stepconf already only puts SCALE in a generated ini file. More details here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/2.2/html//config_ini_config.html

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Keil Hillman
I ran readhmid.exe 0378 numerous times and it bailed every time. I really didn't know what function readhmid.exe performed, had a hunch, now I get it. sc7i43p.exe didn't successfully load firmware. OK, probably cable issues. I'll get a different parallel cable figured out this evening and try

Re: [Emc-users] hm2_7i43 hostmot2 loading - invalid cookie?

2008-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
Could be any number of things, but looks like maybe a signal integrity issue or incorrect bitfile to me. 1. What length and kind of cable connects the 7I43 to the PC? (cable should be IEEE-1284 compatible or flatcable, other printer cables may not have enough grounds) 2. You are using a

Re: [Emc-users] Axis question

2008-10-16 Thread robert
Andre' Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:10 AM 10/16/2008, you wrote: Sorry about the late comment on this thread. New to EMC. Another data point for future EMC enhancements related to feedhold/stopping/restarting a program.. On a Siemens Acramatic 2100 control (Cin-Mil

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
I have read and printed the 1.3.9.3 notes, don't really understand them. All I know is that The default steps set up in the config wizard are all 200. (For every AXIS) When I tell one of axis to move 1 inch (1.000) the actual tool movement is less than half. (around .480) That's why I arbitrarily

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Kasunich
John Domville wrote: I need to find someone with the same 5000 series mill running the same Sherline controller and see what his settings are. No. You need to study your machine and do some basic arithmetic. How many full steps per rev? For 95% of the motors used on CNC machines, that is

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Michael Buesch
On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:17:25 John Domville wrote: I have read and printed the 1.3.9.3 notes, don't really understand them. All I know is that The default steps set up in the config wizard are all 200. (For every AXIS) When I tell one of axis to move 1 inch (1.000) the actual tool

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
John Domville wrote: I have read and printed the 1.3.9.3 notes, don't really understand them. All I know is that The default steps set up in the config wizard are all 200. (For every AXIS) When I tell one of axis to move 1 inch (1.000) the actual tool movement is less than half. (around .480)

Re: [Emc-users] Zeroing rotary axis

2008-10-16 Thread Ian W. Wright
Jeff Epler wrote Ian, Thanks for your report. I've reproduced the problem and I believe I've fixed it. (A nod goes to SWPadnos for noticing the factor of 25.4 hidden in the numbers you cited) Thanks Jeff, I'm glad it wasn't just me going nuts. I've no idea how to apply the patch

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Thornton
If you're using the wizard then you need to read the docs for it. The 1.3.9.3 docs are for manually setting up EMC. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Getting_Started.pdf Start in the Stepper Quickstart section then read the Stepconf Wizard section. In a nutshell you need to know how many

Re: [Emc-users] New Guy help with EMC2 and Sherline Mill

2008-10-16 Thread John Thornton
Did you read the short Getting Started Guide? It's only 27 pages long and covers most of what you need to know to get up and running... The first one sets the stepper drive timing only. The second one sets the I/O of the parallel port card and they have nothing to do with each other. When you

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread Ray Henry
If this is a Sherline like the ones I run the motors are 200 steps per rev, the Sherline driver is 1/4 step, and the screws are 20 tpi. I believe that my INPUT_SCALE is 16000 or -16000 to reverse direction. On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 17:58 -0600, John Thornton wrote: If you're using the wizard

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
-Original Message- From: John Kasunich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:34 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC John Domville wrote: I need to find someone with the same 5000

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Domville
Thanks for the info. John -Original Message- From: Stephen Wille Padnos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:08 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC John Domville wrote: I have read and printed

Re: [Emc-users] Calibration of Sherline Mill under CNC

2008-10-16 Thread John Thornton
On 16 Oct 2008 at 20:37, John Domville wrote: 200 full steps per rev Yes You skipped one 8 microsteps per full step If this is 4 then you need 16000 if it is 2 then you need 8000 1 motor rev per screw rev Yes 20 turns of the screw per inch Yes to move the table 1 inch, you need:

Re: [Emc-users] Homing noise/ limit switch question?

2008-10-16 Thread Bryce Johnson
On the switches I have it only has the NO connection. I opened the halscope and It looked like it was triggering pretty bad when it was not supposed to. I was just using some regular unshielded wire and it was being run pretty close to the stepper wires I have some shielded wire that I am