Re: [FRIAM] flocking windmills

2009-11-24 Thread Carl Tollander
What they lack is mobility - lacking some sort of mobile platform maybe they could get together and decide where the next best placement would be and tell the manufacturing and installation people. Some sort of distributed instantiation - Group orders another member, turbine shows up in the

Re: [FRIAM] Rethinking artificial intelligence

2009-12-16 Thread Carl Tollander
As long as we're on AI and Math (whenever were we not) , recall that the hard problems in AI are less matters of chess and more those of the first five years of development. Here are some mathematicians discussing same - Interesting to see how the conversation unfolds.got some Category

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

2010-04-11 Thread Carl Tollander
Also, Topoi, The Categorical Analysis of Logic Robert Goldblatt Dover Publications, Mineola, NY, 1984 and I'm sure Baez has a bunch of stuff on them. On 4/11/10 5:25 AM, John Kennison wrote: Thanks very much for the references. A basic reference for much of what is in my papers would be

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

2010-05-10 Thread Carl Tollander
It's this stuff. http://www.formerol.comSugru appears to be the consumer marketing arm for the F.03 / sugru products. They say you can order it with other properties. I also like this stuff. http://www.solarcomposites.com It would be nice to have a less obnoxious-to-work-with

Re: [FRIAM] What can 'you' do?

2010-05-14 Thread Carl Tollander
The choice is both and neither, as they are false choices. You have conflated 'media', 'person', 'corporation', and 'forum'. Congress may very well restrict media, for example, I may take it as my freedom of expression to jam some competing media channel with noise, or stray outside my FCC

Re: [FRIAM] Gravity as an emergent phenomenon

2010-07-13 Thread Carl Tollander
Sabine Hossenfelder's summations are fun and interesting and, alas more informative than the nyt article: http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2010/03/gravity-is-entropy-is-gravity-is.html http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-praise-of-black-holes.html Carl On 7/13/10 10:55 AM, glen e. p.

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, like an exercise program, the best books are the one's one actually rereads. I was that liberal arts major, until I came across computer science, then all was lost, then complexity and developmental biology, and all was *really* lost...virtually nothing on the English major curriculum

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Carl Tollander
Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can get agressive and the bites are persistently painful. Ubiquitous and the big one's can be resilient against 2x4's. They make more. Lots more. Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper -

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Carl Tollander
. Particularly if children are bitten. Nick *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Tollander *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Name

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Carl Tollander
More complex, less complicated. Knowledge or ontology becomes more robust if it is independently *accessible*, whereas expertise is the fluidity of understanding what knowledge is most *reachable*, given some variety of current contexts. So its more topological (what's the most or least

Re: [FRIAM] A new use for the Stephen's sandtable technology?

2010-10-14 Thread Carl Tollander
Maybe instrument the stones? There is something satisfying about their physicality. I can see using the projection for a remote game, but I want to use 'real' stones on my side of the virtual world. Some network interface through the board where they could talk to their

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera

2010-10-15 Thread Carl Tollander
Maybe The Art you takeis equal to the Artyou make. I've always had a bias for the performance arts, in that appreciation there comes to mean making a piece developed possibly somewhere else your own by performing it; making it manifest in your own unique context. Sterling might

Re: [FRIAM] Lying is an Art?

2010-10-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Artists who don't lie to themselves usually end up looking for a day job too. Carl On 10/18/10 5:15 PM, Victoria Hughes wrote: How about the word misdirection? Lies we tell ourselves are different that the sleight of hand we offer others, with a wink and a nudge, to say things without being

Re: [FRIAM] Art is a Lie

2010-10-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Ummm, not quite. You could argue that some portion of science is concerned with obtaining true answers to some questions asked, and there might be explicit or implicit deception involved there. But another large chunk is concerned with finding better questions to ask. If I find, for

Re: [FRIAM] More Light, Less Touchy-Feely

2010-11-21 Thread Carl Tollander
Do we harass 10^6 people at a cost of $10^9 for one discovery of note, one which would stop an air-bomb? Isn't that the terrorist's victory condition?If so, they don't need to blow anything up anymore; it's way more cost-effective for them to just publicly fail periodically. Carl On

Re: [FRIAM] More Light, Less Touchy-Feely

2010-11-21 Thread Carl Tollander
And what will be in that profile? The bemused smile, the desperate poker face, the jaded look of resignation, perhaps any attempt at humor? Perhaps you did not pay your credit card bill this month, or are behind in your party dues? Maybe you know too much about spiders,

Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-02 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, hmm, ok, I'll take a stab at it. The reason it's important is that it may be the tip of the iceberg of a category of alternative biologies, ie 'if this can happen what else can' - is this kind of thing prevalent? If there are alternative biologies (or 'shadow ecologies') beyond what

Re: [FRIAM] Help with memory

2010-12-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Google Roger Rabbit, which sends you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_streetcar_scandal Many links. On 12/17/10 8:03 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Many years ago, perhaps more than 40, I swear I read a series of articles, later published as a book, that laid out the basic

Re: [FRIAM] Daphnia's jeans

2011-02-06 Thread Carl Tollander
Perhaps it is the other way around.   That more complex structures and processes evolve as a consequence of some developmental ability to do ever more with less (where 'less' may mean less pre-specification).   While it may be an understatement that that would be kind

Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there

2011-02-09 Thread Carl Tollander
Thanks Vladimyr! I've often felt that the cognitive process you describe is analogous to extended dynamic range operations a la http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm . Sampling notions also come to the fore when learning a language (or a new music). A beginner

Re: [FRIAM] Scary event at Japanese Nuclear Power Plant

2011-03-12 Thread Carl Tollander
BBC stories on this seem to have retained a modicum of rationality. Other google sources are mostly worthless. The live coverage (press conferences, etc) is here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/japanhelpchannel though I'm afraid my japanese is not good enough to translate. Much of it

Re: [FRIAM] Books about true love

2011-03-13 Thread Carl Tollander
Yes there is. No, there is no best book about it. There may be a best sandwich about it, but not for long. C. On 3/13/11 3:29 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: A new study says it is a piece of missing DNA which restricts brain growth that makes us human

Re: [FRIAM] A modest proposal

2011-03-16 Thread Carl Tollander
Oranges and Apples maybe? They're different technologies (BWR vs PWR). It does not appear that any of the current issues at Fukushima originated with the basic design, but were due to loss of supporting infrastructure (e.g., loss of grid power to the pumps, the wave washed out the diesel

Re: [FRIAM] Apocalypse in Japan

2011-03-16 Thread Carl Tollander
Everything of consequence is on a fault somewhere. On 3/16/11 5:31 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Well not just that but hopefuly it's a time to apreciat the unreal amount of help asia does for the global economy. That being said offshoring is a horrible way to run the US economy. It makes it way

Re: [FRIAM] toxins from magnets

2011-03-23 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, if we stopped using rare earths for refrigerator magnets, it might make a dent. On 3/22/11 9:10 AM, peggy miller wrote: I wondered if any of you know of a way to keep magnet production from producing enormous toxin byproducts. Turns out magnets are needed for large wind turbines that

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Carl Tollander
This is a weird turn of phrase, to export externalities. Where are we exporting them from if they are already, well, external? Hmph. Of course we import them as well, for example the flight you take today is safer and cheaper because the complex of airplane manufacturers, airports and

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Carl Tollander
-5105 / blog: /http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ vita: http://sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ /_/ On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com mailto:c...@plektyx.com wrote: This is a weird turn of phrase, to export

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Carl Tollander
Panic over intangibles is the right thing? Promise? On 3/29/11 11:30 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: In the absence of a functioning moral compass, I suppose this is a workable definition. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com mailto:sroy...@gmail.com wrote: What

Re: [FRIAM] wind magnet pollution

2011-04-05 Thread Carl Tollander
Ah, California. Molycorp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass_rare_earth_mine Not online yet, maybe. ISO 9001 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9001 Read down. On 3/31/11 1:52 PM, peggy miller wrote: Hi -- Since many of us got involved in the wind turbine/magnet production

Re: [FRIAM] existantial french star wars video...

2011-05-15 Thread Carl Tollander
DV: Hell is other autonomous agents? Or could it be more one's awareness of the insidious gnawing persistent illusion of their autonomy? The bird in the school and the fish in the flock have to live with such an existential nausea. Yet they have to effectively treat their fellows as

Re: [FRIAM] What evolves?

2011-05-15 Thread Carl Tollander
That is very nearly a tautology. On 5/15/11 12:16 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote: No, the END result is everything dies. Your morbid thought for the day. Ray Parks - Original Message - From: Prof David West [mailto:profw...@fastmail.fm] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 02:23 PM To: The Friday

Re: [FRIAM] hospice care?

2011-06-16 Thread Carl Tollander
I replied to Owen separately about my experiences, but I'd like to reiterate for all what Rich and Pamela said. Don't wait until the stress is upon you, because you can't really hide that stress. You can never prepare yourself completely, but you can do the research about alternatives

Re: [FRIAM] Apropos of a certain off-limits thread

2011-07-05 Thread Carl Tollander
I think xkcd draws extremely well. Stick figures, ovals, hats, a few lines for hair and he ends up with these extremely expressive characters we can relate to and come to care about (at least for a few panels). All this brilliance several times a week while under much stress (see his recent

Re: [FRIAM] Apropos of a certain off-limits thread

2011-07-05 Thread Carl Tollander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xkcd On 7/5/11 6:49 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Pamela! Brilliant!! Yes, xkcd is definitely brilliant. And Doug, well, he does have a way. FWIW, until I actually followed up and checked it out I *assumed* that the cartoonist was a *wicked-smart* young woman...

Re: [FRIAM] Deafening silence re downgrade -

2011-08-09 Thread Carl Tollander
So glad I already bought new tires. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/ I seem to remember a bet of some kind with somebody on the list about the unemployment rate? On 8/8/11 10:14 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 8/8/2011 9:33 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: So in sum, yes Doug is right, a flock of

Re: [FRIAM] Draw - Google Correlate

2011-09-03 Thread Carl Tollander
Just in time for elections! On 9/3/11 2:13 AM, Tom Johnson wrote: You will never have trouble fitting your data analysis results to SOMETHING ever again. -tj Search by Drawing Draw an interesting curve, then click 'Correlate!' to find query terms whose popularity over time matches the

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Carl Tollander
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/09/neutrino-results-depend-on-exquisite-measurements-of-time-space.ars On 9/24/11 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Until you get the real answer, I will offer what I thought I learned from the expert opinion around the table yesterday. It was done

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Carl Tollander
The issue may not be how to get the advantaged to include the disadvantaged as part of 'their' group. The issue is that they do that by failing to see that anyone is disadvantaged. On 10/27/11 8:32 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote: Gillian, H tryingto put my evolutionary psychology hat on,

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Carl Tollander
Group membership is not necessarily self-selecting. Perceiving group identity, deciding to be part of the group, working to be accepted into the group, and having the group 'accept' a member are different activities, and of course there are multiple groups with competing, occasionally

Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Fwd: FlowingData - Best statistics question ever

2011-10-29 Thread Carl Tollander
Imagine it's not multiple choice... On 10/29/11 9:44 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: Oops fat fingered earlier email. I think this, as Tyler sez, is tricky because of the double 25. You have a 50% chance of 25, but only 25% of the other two. Like the Monty Hall, I'd like to hear a pro reason

Re: [FRIAM] Theory, and Why It's Time Psychology Got One

2011-11-12 Thread Carl Tollander
Levers? There are levers? I was supposed to be pushing levers? Dang, that explains it. C. On 11/12/11 9:32 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Stephen, I thought Lakoff's Moral politics was bloody awful -- SHAMEFUL even, given his earlier stuff which I liked. A terrifying example of what

[FRIAM] models behaving badly

2011-11-14 Thread Carl Tollander
http://mathbabe.org/2011/10/25/emanuel-dermans-models-behaving-badly/ Worth a look. I like the oath, at least as a halfway measure. C. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Music - Product Update

2011-11-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Most of the music I have on my x2 phone/iPad/iTouch is stuff I'm trying to learn or appreciate enough so that I can learn it better from some other source. Since most all the stuff I'm trying to learn has choreography and staging components; there are very strong visual elements that

[FRIAM] Money

2011-11-21 Thread Carl Tollander
Yeah, you've been sent this ten times already this morning. http://xkcd.com/980/ C. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at

[FRIAM] sensordomo?

2011-12-06 Thread Carl Tollander
We're looking at various ways to instrument our taiko dojo and are considering ambient solutions. Is there a sensordomo-like thing for iOS devices? Thanks, Carl FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] Gates discussing new nuclear reactor with China - Yahoo! News

2011-12-07 Thread Carl Tollander
More here: http://bravenewclimate.com/2010/09/22/twr-vs-ifr There appears to be some sentiment that Gate's TWR is not as good as the IFR designs. I don't know enough to judge. Also, Monbiot has a new screed out on GE-Hitachi's proposal for an IFR: ...last week GE Hitachi (GEH) told the

Re: [FRIAM] Gates discussing new nuclear reactor with China - Yahoo! News

2011-12-08 Thread Carl Tollander
I believe France is a net energy exporter, quite possibly increasingly to Germany. Could you say more what this paying dearly business is about? The slow moving hydro turbine thing is interesting, but I don't know of any that aren't experimental. There would of course be a gov't subsidy

Re: [FRIAM] CERN to announce Higgs boson observation at LHC | ExtremeTech

2011-12-12 Thread Carl Tollander
Another discussion: http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/ I think the odds are quite high that there will be a press conference. One should not take anything said as evidence for or against any particular string theory, despite what media commentary will happen afterwards. carl On

[FRIAM] cigars, grocers, a function of one complex variable....

2011-12-18 Thread Carl Tollander
There are some sweet yet obscure physics anecdotes for some holidays at http://backreaction.blogspot.com/ . C. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives,

[FRIAM] indices vs search rewrite for mixed phonetic/pictorgram languages

2011-12-21 Thread Carl Tollander
I was wondering if anyone out there had any insight on how search engines work with mixed phonetic/pictogram queries. If you enter a search in the phonetic alphabet (e.g. jp Hiragana) does it try to convert to the pictogram (e.g. jp Kanji) first and then try matches against a pictogram-based

Re: [FRIAM] parislemon • Why I Hate Android

2012-01-10 Thread Carl Tollander
Any smartphone OS for the foreseeable future will be free as in kittens. It would be nice if the battery were to last longer. I don't know what the the battery life is on 'standard' android, never seen one. I use my Droid X2 pretty hard, and a days use is usually about 40% of the full

Re: [FRIAM] parislemon • Why I Hate Android

2012-01-10 Thread Carl Tollander
I'd actually like to see some sort of software radio thing, but again, kittens. What is the victory condition? What is the problem we want to solve? It seems its not really battery life On 1/10/12 6:10 PM, Victoria Hughes wrote: What a great solution- the mesh network. Communal,

Re: [FRIAM] parislemon • Why I Hate Android

2012-01-10 Thread Carl Tollander
-frances-free-will-reinvent-mobile/ On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com mailto:c...@plektyx.com wrote: I'd actually like to see some sort of software radio thing, but again, kittens. What is the victory condition? What is the problem we want

Re: [FRIAM] preprint from Stu Kauffman

2012-01-11 Thread Carl Tollander
Bit of a slog (an editor please!) but once you finess the jargon and get your mind on the path it's rewarding (that said I'm only up to page 5). Recommended so far, though multiverse and block-universe folks may become unhappy. Just off-the-cuff, maybe a way to think about the arguments in

Re: [FRIAM] Complex Numbers .. the end of the line?

2012-01-23 Thread Carl Tollander
Consider Baez on Octonions - talks about what the issues are. Beyond me for now. Suspect you are about to pop out of algebra and end up someplace else as interesting. Carl On 1/23/12 5:38 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Integers, Rationals, Reals .. these scalars seemed to be enough for quite a

Re: [FRIAM] Elsevier — my part in its downfall « Gowers's Weblog

2012-02-01 Thread Carl Tollander
Some further developments: http://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-faculty-of-1000/ http://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/ban-elsevier/ On 1/27/12 5:28 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: I was elated to find JoVE (the Journal of Visual Experiments, a video database of footage of

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Re: Friam Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9

2012-02-13 Thread Carl Tollander
Yes, I notice that I have a different facial expression if I'm trying to speak Japanese than if I'm trying to speak English. It's not that the phonemes themselves are that different (well, there's the 'rolled d' style 'r' and English has some that are not present in Japanese (e.g., 'ye'

Re: [FRIAM] Printing Drones by the Sheet (or how we get to tens of billions of drones by 2020) - Global Guerrillas

2012-02-18 Thread Carl Tollander
No dissing of the Ultimaker intended, but I think the Mobee uses a bit gnarlier tech. Should get one anyway http://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-events/press-releases/pop-up-flying-robots http://robobees.seas.harvard.edu/ http://wyss.harvard.edu/viewpage/204/bioinspired-robotics (nice

Re: [FRIAM] Printing Drones by the Sheet (or how we get to tens of billions of drones by 2020) - Global Guerrillas

2012-02-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Better still, getting local folks up to speed on the Ardunio platform (e.g., Ultimaker uses 'em) might be a good idea. On 2/18/12 3:56 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: The printer they use, ultimaker, goes for EUR1,194.00, roughly $1564.14. ( http://goo.gl/Vqcg0) Is it time we buy one? -- Owen

[FRIAM] oops

2012-02-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Sorry for the misspelling, that's Arduino (arduino.cc). On 2/18/12 8:03 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: Better still, getting local folks up to speed on the Ardunio platform (e.g., Ultimaker uses 'em) might be a good idea. On 2/18/12 3:56 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: The printer they use, ultimaker

[FRIAM] Circles Disturbed

2012-04-01 Thread Carl Tollander
Tooling around on a Sunday, I came across a review of the book Circles Disturbed, and an interview with Barry Mazur, one of the authors. Recommended (the interview, haven't gotten to the book yet). Loved his ideas about templates and explanation futures.

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-01 Thread Carl Tollander
Nick, well, there is the issue of being on-topic or not. I think, it's on topic, insofar as folks thinking about how, when, and at what pace advanced civilizations might converse might have religious views that put a charge on how they are able to think about, say, what advanced, science,

Re: [FRIAM] evolving neural networks

2012-04-11 Thread Carl Tollander
As it might, in, um, the immune system? On 4/11/12 4:59 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: With the result that the neural networks _can_ evolve to become larger over time, the populations _can_ acquire a diversity in strategies that becomes a selection pressure for increasingly clever strategies for

Re: [FRIAM] James Cameron, Google Founder Back Space-Mining Venture - WSJ.com

2012-04-21 Thread Carl Tollander
There's a webcast on Tuesday. I'd watch. Carl On 4/21/12 9:11 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: This is so Star Trek: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303513404577356190967904210.html As /. said: http://goo.gl/DNDzV A team including Larry Page, Ram Shriram and Eric Schmidt of

[FRIAM] watch this

2012-04-24 Thread Carl Tollander
http://www.spacevidcast.com/live/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] watch this

2012-04-25 Thread Carl Tollander
, so there's an avenue for cooperation. 9000 near earth asteroids so far - a lot to see. On 4/25/12 9:40 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Interesting .. a swarm of 16 or more space explorers. Wow! On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com mailto:c...@plektyx.com wrote

Re: [FRIAM] Los Alamos Medical

2012-05-07 Thread Carl Tollander
I've heard the Rust Medical Center in Rio Rancho is quite good, and that if one had anything seriously awry with one's health that one should contrive to get transferred there. You could perhaps start there and get a referral. On 5/7/12 9:50 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Does anyone know about

Re: [FRIAM] Please Don't Learn to Code

2012-05-15 Thread Carl Tollander
If you are going to lead people, you need to come to some understanding of the depth of your own ignorance about what they do everyday. Many administrative crashes come from some manager thinking about what the managed do in terms of how hard could it be? So yeah, Bloomberg should learn

Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology

2012-05-16 Thread Carl Tollander
OK, what does it MEAN to you to have solved a problem in psychology? Are there criteria you can state succinctly? Where did those criteria come from? If you really can't say, phlogiston will have to do. Folks were grappling with how to describe their inner experiences coherently, given all

Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology

2012-05-16 Thread Carl Tollander
question or do you think the category is incoherent? Eric On Wed, May 16, 2012 11:15 PM, *Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com* wrote: Eric, so you've got a tech problem, not a science problem, and sure, the tech problem of trajectories wrt local gravitation can be solved. How do I

Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology

2012-05-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Nick, What if you're not actually in an ice cream store. But, some combination of: 1) when you believe you're hungry for hot fudge sundae, everything looks like an ice cream store. 2) you believe in the equivalence of ice cream stores to be all capable of producing a hot fudge sundae. 3) you

Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology

2012-05-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Curiously, most of the folks I know to whom many folks on this list would ascribe magical thinking to, do, I think, have very little trouble with the 50 kilofoot level explanation of General Relativity, and might even go so far as to say, what's the big deal? Trying to explain Special Relativity

Re: [FRIAM] Space Exploration in the 21st Century

2012-05-28 Thread Carl Tollander
It depends on what your implicit and explicit goals are. If you start from 'efficiently find out cool stuff' or 'more knowledge is good' you get one kind of answer. If you start from 'ask better questions and inform theory and understanding' you get another kind of answer. If you start from

Re: [FRIAM] Space Exploration in the 21st Century

2012-05-28 Thread Carl Tollander
. -- Owen On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com mailto:c...@plektyx.com wrote: Not seeing much of a pure commercial story for BEO. COTS isn't aimed at that. So right now BEO (fuel depot at L2, manned asteroid visits, Mars) is Orion/SLS-centric and conjecture

Re: [FRIAM] The Climate Fixers May 14 New Yorker

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Tollander
I think it was called Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Theodore Sturgeon. I recall there were giant squid. On 5/30/12 9:01 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: I found the article horrifying. Is anybody old enough to remember a sixties research project with a cute name which centered around a

Re: [FRIAM] List of Unsolved Problems in Psychology

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Tollander
If you're going to talk about the brain, you need to pause slightly before you say it, then turn your head a degree or two, lift your chin slightly, look nobly into the distance, and say it in quotes. the brain. Suddenly someone stands, we all raise our glasses, and they say,

Re: [FRIAM] atmospherics

2012-06-12 Thread Carl Tollander
On 6/12/12 5:43 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: And whiskey goes well with some mixers as well: I must now go atone to the whiskey gods and undergo a number of purification rituals for having read that. Carl FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-09-27 Thread Carl Tollander
I think the GR just says you might want to value context over doctrine. On 9/27/12 7:53 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote: Well... so much for discussing modeling... Personally, I am not a big fan of the Golden Rule because it implies that everyone /should /be happy with the same things. It also

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-10-01 Thread Carl Tollander
It's sort of like being cool. If you act like you're cool, and go around telling yourself how cool you are, you're not cool. If you care about whether or not you're cool, you're not cool. So if you get invested in how much you're not caring about whether or not you're cool, you're still not

[FRIAM] Seldon seen

2012-10-16 Thread Carl Tollander
New edition of Issac Asimov's Foundation series out, intro by Paul Krugman. Woo-hoo! https://webspace.princeton.edu/users/pkrugman/FDT%20intro.pdf FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] What's in your contact lens case?

2012-10-17 Thread Carl Tollander
And yet we live. One is reminded of the inside of a cell. Lots going on... Carl On 10/17/12 1:56 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Roger, You never favored us with a comment on these pieces. Are you speaking to us as an evolutionist or as a contact lens wearer. As a drinker of Santa Fe tap

Re: [FRIAM] The Presidential Election

2012-11-03 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, as someone who grew up in Nebraska and up until recently visited several times a year, I don't think its as weird a place as you portray. The social networks formed in part from the state's rural origins, fallout from and reaction to politics (e.g. populist revolt, you could look it

[FRIAM] jellyfish songs

2012-12-07 Thread Carl Tollander
Perhaps we have been promoting our science all wrong. http://www.benikurage.com/index_en/index_en.htm Singing scientists get more coverage. (This guy has 3 articles about him in the NYTimes in the last couple weeks.) The scientific *merits* are a different issue. This is about face and

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Volkswagen Levitating Car Concept

2012-12-10 Thread Carl Tollander
Clever, of course it's not really about a levitating car... On 12/10/12 8:06 AM, Ron Newman wrote: I watched it twice! On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net mailto:o...@backspaces.net wrote: From a friend .. cool concept people's car! On Sat, Dec 8,

Re: [FRIAM] Simulations again

2012-12-17 Thread Carl Tollander
There would be some assumptions involved on why the sim was made. http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=2824#comic Optimizing one's level may be one of those strategies that didn't pan out so well. Kind of an artifact that seems to turn up occasionally, but doesn't get much

Re: [FRIAM] How to avoid shootings

2012-12-18 Thread Carl Tollander
: On 12/18/12 2:03 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: It seems to me the knee-jerk response to this sort of thing is to improve detection and mitigate consequences, as with gun control I'd guess detection can and will be defeated by someone like this (in part because he probably has someone helping him

Re: [FRIAM] Simulations again

2012-12-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Hmm, ok IF one were a sim, then one would have no way of knowing whether one's actions were efficacious or if the response one saw from one's environment were some activity slightly disconnected from one's actions. This might amount to testing whether some aspect of one's environment were an

Re: [FRIAM] Update on the Java update

2013-01-14 Thread Carl Tollander
My understanding is, the problem is with the 1.7 version plugin for the browsers. Standalone JRE is ok. OTOH, many folks have trouble with the disable java buttons or aren't clear on the distinction between the plugin and the runtime, so they're getting advice to uninstall it completely.

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on laptop

2013-01-24 Thread Carl Tollander
Go back one generation, get a refurbished one from Apple, pile on the memory. Get a real bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, unless you like keys that don't move very much. I'd second the motion on investigating a mac mini with a big honking monitor.You can hang out on the recliner with the

Re: [FRIAM] The Blog I just sent you

2013-02-09 Thread Carl Tollander
Nothingwhat? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/neo/ http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/nasa-exploration-roadmap-evaluation-crewed-missions-asteroids/ As for what we sort of know, survey-wise, start at: http://www.spaceweather.com/ and scroll to Near Earth Asteroids and follow links.

Re: [FRIAM] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time

2013-03-13 Thread Carl Tollander
But I like it! Should happen an odd number of times a year! Clocks are arbitrary anyhow; just wake up with the Sun. On 3/11/13 3:25 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: The title sez it all: Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time | We the People: Your Voice in Our

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time

2013-03-18 Thread Carl Tollander
I do not think it a bad idea, to get hit upside the head, perhaps, say, twice a year, with the notion that was lives on a planet, not a treadmill. It is at least an opportunity to occasionally discuss astronomy twice a year with those who might otherwise remain aloof. The days get longer,

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time

2013-03-20 Thread Carl Tollander
So everyone would have a little bit string (updated incessantly) that identified How You Relate To Time. There could be some ancillary info: Best met when shadows are long and so forth. We could go back to the hour of the tiger way of talking about time.This would open up whole new

Re: [FRIAM] less

2013-03-20 Thread Carl Tollander
Less used to be more, but now its something more and something less. Mixins, hmmm, is somebody trying to bring back flavors? In lisp land they were great until they weren't, it was like buttons and threads. Suddenly, a mess. On 3/20/13 9:25 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Anyone? How about one

Re: [FRIAM] You just READ the Google homepage. What actually happened?

2013-03-21 Thread Carl Tollander
You just READ the Google homepage. What actually happened? How do you digest your dinner? The problem at hand is not a new one. Couple years ago (2011), David Krakauer gave the Ulam lecture, which had some observations on outsourcing competencies. I seem to recall he thought it was a

Re: [FRIAM] Incoherence, Evil and Willful Ignorance

2013-03-23 Thread Carl Tollander
Perhaps harder to deal with than we think. http://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/meta-rationality/ On 3/23/13 4:47 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Nick - I suppose *willful ignorance* is a variant of evil, but I think a *lot* of what looks like simple incoherence is actually willful. -

Re: [FRIAM] Whirled Happiness

2013-04-11 Thread Carl Tollander
Here be a more or less recent paper about measuring happiness, from the famous Sabine Hossenfelder. Bears on the philosopher of science conversation too. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1754423 (just open what gets downloaded as a .pdf, even if doesn't look like one)

[FRIAM] funding science

2013-04-12 Thread Carl Tollander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMj_P_6H69gfeature=youtu.be Just askin', what if funding science was like this? What if this was the ONLY model available? Would you have gone into something else? Get a job, uh huh. C FRIAM

[FRIAM] Perimeter Ideas Roadshow....hmmm

2013-05-26 Thread Carl Tollander
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Atmospheric mechanics and thermodynamics

2013-06-12 Thread Carl Tollander
/*What we need to explain heat bursts perhaps is to discover something out there on the flatlands to perform the function of the mountain range. */ Corn. Out by Grand Island, everything is planted in corn, due to corn prices. Supported largely by irrigation from wells (the Platte River being

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