date:20091030

On Friday 30 October 2009 12:23:45 dhk wrote:
 Below is the output from the failed emerge of app-text/spellutils-0.7 .
  The error is an access violation, but I don't know why.  It seems to be
 the /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/spellutils.mo file but that file
 doesn't exist.

It's failing on the install step, not the merge step. So it doesn't help 
looking in /usr/share/ because the build is not working there yet.

The problem will lie in /var/tmp/portage/$STUFF/usr/share
You must look there

 `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/spellutils-0.7/work/spellutils-0.7/intl'
 Making install in po
 make[1]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/spellutils-0.7/work/spellutils-0.7/po'
 if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
 .././mkinstalldirs /usr/share; \
   else \
 /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/share; \
   fi
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:  /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/spellutils.mo
 /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file
 `/usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/spellutils.mo': Permission denied
 installing da.gmo as /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/spellutils.mo
 if test spellutils = gettext; then \
 if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
   .././mkinstalldirs /usr/share/gettext/po; \
 else \
   /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/share/gettext/po; \
 fi; \
 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./Makefile.in.in \
 /usr/share/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in; \
   else \
 
 : ; \
 
   fi

You have an permission denied error here at this point. Run the emerge again 
and when it fails navigate through /var/tmp/portage/ to find the directory or 
file in question. See what the problem is - I'll bet money that a regular user 
is trying to write to a directory owned by root with perms 755.

When you have all the info, file a bug at b.g.o. because this should not 
happen (it's a bug in the build scripts)




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Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-30 Thread Arnau Bria

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:52:31 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:

Hi Neil,

 There's also tentakel, just as you were ready to make a choice :)
I'm taking a look on it, but are few examples...

how does tentakel behaves when passing | , $, etc.. ?

Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging app-text/spellutils-0.7 fails

2009-10-30 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:34:28 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 It's failing on the install step, not the merge step. So it doesn't
 help looking in /usr/share/ because the build is not working there yet.

the trouble is that it is trying to work there

ACCESS DENIED open_wr:  /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/spellutils.mo

This is a sandox violation error and needs a bug filing against it,
unless someone has already done it.


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A: If only it was just the light bulb..we'll have to replace the
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Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-30 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:42:39 +0100, Arnau Bria wrote:

  There's also tentakel, just as you were ready to make a choice :)  
 I'm taking a look on it, but are few examples...
 
 how does tentakel behaves when passing | , $, etc.. ?

The commands are executed in a remote shell, but interpreted by the local
shell when you call tentakel. So if you want a variable or pipe to be
referenced on the remote shell, you'll have to quote or escape it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmplayer, video and audio not syncing.

2009-10-30 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

 I haven't snipped - the output might be useful later in the thread.

 First, the slow system message always means something, but it's a bit 
 generic. It means that mplayer can't process the audio fast enough and like 
 the message says is often buggy driver or wrong configs. Try the suggestions 
 listed.

 An OOo compile in the background will indeed kill interactive processes. I 
 find that even on this DualCore2 2.6 notebook with 4G of RAM, building OOo 
 sends the load through the roof, especially when it starts printing progress 
 lines with lots of dots. It's IO blocking on something and the entire machine 
 just sits there doing nothing whatsoever except sit in a tight loop waiting 
 for soemthing to happen in the build.

 Try again once emerge OOo has completed. emerge KDE should not affect things 
 anywhere near the same amount.



   

I'm a snipping.  LOL  I haven't ignored this reply, I been testing some
things.  It appears that some file types are worse than others.  .mp4
for example seems to be worse than a .flv.  I'm still trying to make
some sense out of this so I can report back something that makes sense. 
Trust me, that can be a challenge for me sometimes.  ;-) 

Back when something falls into place.  Oh, waiting until OOo was done
compiling did help a LOT.  It's still a little bit off tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:21 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
  Not that it is XINPUT that is driving my keyboard, not Keyboard1.
 So
  I'm guessing it's the X config.
 
 Might be. Do you have any keyboard section in xorg.conf?
 I assume I could get rid of xorg.conf at all but whenever I tried that
 my X11 didn't start up anymore ... 

I'm using evdev with hal.  I'm told if you use this combination you
shouldn't have any input devices in xorg.conf.  In fact I don't even
have an xorg.conf in either my Gentoo or Fedora machines and they both
work fine. YMMV.

Ok, I just plugged a Logitech KB into my laptop.  It has glitzy keys but
  not as many (just multimedia, zoom, calculator and power/lock.  Again,
   all the keys just work except for zooms and also the Media Center
   key and the Music key seem to both map to the same keypress
   (XF86Tools), but I'm not one to use that button.  I did lie in my
previous email though.   I *do* use the volume keys but that's about it.
 Anyway, when I plugged in the USB keyboard this is what got appended to
 Xorg.0.log:

(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Receiver
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: Device: /dev/input/event12
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: Device: /dev/input/event12
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found keys
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech USB Receiver (type:
KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech USB Receiver (type:
KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev

(**) Option xkb_model(**) Option xkb_model evdev

(**) Option xkb_layout(**) Option xkb_layout us
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Receiver
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: Device: /dev/input/event13
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found 12 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found scroll wheel(s)
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found relative axes
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found absolute axes
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found absolute axes
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Found keys
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Configuring as mouse
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia:
10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech USB Receiver (type:
KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout us

(**) Logitech USB Receiver: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) Logitech USB Receiver: (accel) acceleration profile 0
(II) Logitech USB Receiver: initialized for relative axes.
(WW) Logitech USB Receiver: ignoring absolute axes.

Well, it's interesting that it shows EmulateWheelButton because there's
nothing on the keyboard physically that appears to do that. But anyway,
just works

I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard synaptics mouse in make.conf and
in the GNOME keyboard preferences I just have Evdev-managed keyboard.
For kernel config I have:

$ zgrep EVDEV /proc/config.gz 
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
CONFIG_USB_VIDEO_CLASS_INPUT_EVDEV=y
# CONFIG_USB_PWC_INPUT_EVDEV is not set

HTH,
-a

[gentoo-user] Whose bug is it? [was: hal greps my USB printer - help !]

2009-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch

After a long search on the net I've found out
that the permissions of the usb device are set wrong
(root.usb)
It looks like an UDEV rule installed by sane-backends
sets the user to root and the group to usb.
With these settings CUPS won't recognize/use the printer.

I had to add the following rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
(e.g.)

ATTR{idVendor}==0482, ATTR{idProduct}==0015, MODE:=0777,
  GROUP:=lp, USER:=lp, ENV{libsane_matched}:=yes

where one has to vary the idVendor and idProduct, of course.

Even for a casual Gentoo user that's neither trivial nor comfortable.
If the printer breaks sometime one has to remember to change that rule.
And it wasn't easy to find that advice.

Where should I report a bug to ?
To
net-print/cups
or
media-gfx/sane-backends
or where else?

Thanks for your help,
Helmut.


-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] Whose bug is it? [was: hal greps my USB printer - help !]

2009-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 30 Oct, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 After a long search on the net I've found out
 that the permissions of the usb device are set wrong
 (root.usb)
 It looks like an UDEV rule installed by sane-backends
 sets the user to root and the group to usb.
 With these settings CUPS won't recognize/use the printer.
 
 I had to add the following rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
 (e.g.)
 
 ATTR{idVendor}==0482, ATTR{idProduct}==0015, MODE:=0777,
   GROUP:=lp, USER:=lp, ENV{libsane_matched}:=yes

this must be OWNER:=lp
of course.

 
 where one has to vary the idVendor and idProduct, of course.
 
 Even for a casual Gentoo user that's neither trivial nor comfortable.
 If the printer breaks sometime one has to remember to change that rule.
 And it wasn't easy to find that advice.
 
 Where should I report a bug to ?
 To
 net-print/cups
 or
 media-gfx/sane-backends
 or where else?
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Helmut.
 
 

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

[gentoo-user] xen and ext4

2009-10-30 Thread Xi Shen

hi,

i am using gentoo x64. i want to try xen, but my file system is ext4,
and i cannot fine ext4 support while compiling xen-source. have i
missed something, or ext4 is not supported by xen for now? when will
it be available?


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Re: [gentoo-user] xen and ext4

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 20:50 +0800, Xi Shen wrote:
 hi,
 
 i am using gentoo x64. i want to try xen, but my file system is ext4,
 and i cannot fine ext4 support while compiling xen-source. have i
 missed something, or ext4 is not supported by xen for now? when will
 it be available?

You've by now noticed that the xen-sources kernel is *very* old. It's a
patched version of 2.6.18.  ext4dev didn't come around until 2.6.19, and
ext4 proper until 2.6.28.

When will it be available?  That's probably a question to ask Citrix.
It's basically in their hands to release a (supported) Xen kernel that's
based on a more modern Linux kernel or at least get Xen dom0 in good
enough shape that it will be accepted into the mainline kernel (though
I'm not holding my breath).

-a

[gentoo-user] Replacement for hal maybe?

2009-10-30 Thread Dale

Hi,

I know there are a few people having issues with hal and the new
xorg-server.  Well, lookie what I found.

http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/devicekit-disks

http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/devicekit-power

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit

It's a start at least.  I'm just hoping this will be a lot smoother
transition for me.  I still can't get hal to work on this rig.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

2009-10-30 Thread Stroller



On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote:

I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA .
There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet  
controller,

which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci').


A very casual Google suggests that this card uses the the atl1e kernel  
driver / module.


EG:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25

says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs

CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname.

Have you tried this driver?

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:01 -0400, Duncan Smith wrote:
 The company I work for is using gentoo on all its machines.  We just
 got a license to a commercial tool which does not support gentoo.  The
 closest thing it supports is RHEL v4.
 
 Running any command provided by the tool results in an explosive
 memory leak (virtual memory hits 400G in 1 second, and continues to
 climb).
 
 I suspect the problem is that RHEL v4 uses =sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4,
 whereas we have =sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2 installed.
 
 I have three questions:
  1. Am I posting to the right list?

You are just just as likely to get support from Gentoo about software we
have no access to as your distributer is to support Gentoo.
 
  2. Any idea what's going on?  Could it be something other than glibc
 causing the problem?

It could be one of a hundred million things.  Without access to the
program it's really hard to tell.

  3. If it is glibc, is there some way to install glibc slotted?  Could
 I install an old version of glibc to some other lib folder (like
 /opt/lib64), and then use LD_LIBRARY_PATH somehow to get the tool to
 look there first?  How? 

You can't have multiple versions of glibc.  And you can't downgrade
glibc.  Attempting to do so may result in having more than just that
program misbehaving ;)

My suggestion, for your sanity and support: if you insist on Gentoo then
at least run RHEL4 (or CentOS or whatever) inside a virtual machine and
run your app from there.

[gentoo-user] firefox-3.5.4 xulrunner version

2009-10-30 Thread Graham Murray

The ebuild for mozilla-firefox-3.5.4 has been changed to force
~xulrunner-1.9.1.3. As xulrunner-1.9.1.4 was put into the tree at the
same time as firefox-3.5.4 and is shown as a security fix, is it right
that mozilla-firefox-3.5.4 is forcing the downgrade to
xulrunner-1.9.1.3-r1 (which is dated before the security fixes)?

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:

   3. If it is glibc, is there some way to install glibc slotted?  Could
  I install an old version of glibc to some other lib folder (like
  /opt/lib64), and then use LD_LIBRARY_PATH somehow to get the tool to
  look there first?  How?
 
 You can't have multiple versions of glibc.  And you can't downgrade
 glibc.  Attempting to do so may result in having more than just that
 program misbehaving ;)

you can have multiple glibc's. Just not via portage.
But yes, it is a mess. A mess that is most likely to explode violently.

 
 My suggestion, for your sanity and support: if you insist on Gentoo then
 at least run RHEL4 (or CentOS or whatever) inside a virtual machine and
 run your app from there.
 

yeah, I would go down that route too.

[gentoo-user] Re: firefox-3.5.4 xulrunner version


On 10/30/2009 05:26 PM, Graham Murray wrote:

The ebuild for mozilla-firefox-3.5.4 has been changed to force
~xulrunner-1.9.1.3. As xulrunner-1.9.1.4 was put into the tree at the
same time as firefox-3.5.4 and is shown as a security fix, is it right
that mozilla-firefox-3.5.4 is forcing the downgrade to
xulrunner-1.9.1.3-r1 (which is dated before the security fixes)?


Seeing no explanation for it in ChangeLog, this looks like an oversight.

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-30 Thread Dan Johansson

On Thursday 29 October 2009 20.16:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Thursday 29 October 2009 21:08:27 Dan Johansson wrote:
  On Thursday 29 October 2009 19.52:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson:
Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the
following:
   
8---
   -- -- -- - # emerge --update --deep
--verbose --reinstall changed-use --with-bdeps y world --pretend
--tree
   
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
   
Calculating dependencies... done!
   
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-
libs/cairo-1.6[X].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your
request: - x11-libs/cairo-1.8.8 (Change USE: +X)
(dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.16.6 [ebuild])
(dependency required by media-gfx/ufraw-0.15-r1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9 [ebuild])
(dependency required by www-apps/gallery-2.3 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
8---
   -- -- -- -
   
As this is a server I really do not want/need X on this host.
  
   So why do have gtk+ in your USE, then? That's the one that makes ufraw
   pull in gtk+ which in turn wants cairo with the X flag. OTOH, this
   doesn't mean you'll get X installed on your machine. You'll only get a
   handful of X libs.
  
I can not see why it works if I first deletes all USE flags (-*) and
the just sets the USE flags I need again.
  
   Because it's not imagemagick that wants cairo with X (which the emerge
output above clearly states).
  
   Bye...
  
 Dirk
 
  Yes, I can see that it's not imagemagick directly that pulls in cairo.
  And I do not have the gtk USE flag set:
 
  # euse -i gtk
  global use flags (searching: gtk)
  
  [-] gtk - Adds support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit)
  ...snip...
 
 ufraw's DEPEND:
 
 RDEPEND=media-libs/jpeg
 
 =media-libs/lcms-1.13
 
 media-libs/tiff
 
 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.0
 
 You don't have a choice. With ufraw you are going to get gtk+.
 
 imagemagick pulls in ufraw:
 
 RDEPEND=raw? ( media-gfx/ufraw )
 
 But you have -raw in USE for imagemagick
 
 Hmm. What does emerge --info have to say about USE=raw?
 What does emerge -pvt imagemagick have to say?
 I'm thinking raw may be overridden in your profile. what profile are you
 using?

That was it, if I put -raw in make.conf I am able to upgrade imagemagick 
without pulling in all the X stuff (~25 new packages).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmplayer, video and audio not syncing.

2009-10-30 Thread Jesús Guerrero

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:17:51 -0500, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 I haven't snipped - the output might be useful later in the thread.

 First, the slow system message always means something, but it's a bit

 generic. It means that mplayer can't process the audio fast enough and
 like
 the message says is often buggy driver or wrong configs. Try the
 suggestions
 listed.

 An OOo compile in the background will indeed kill interactive
processes.
 I
 find that even on this DualCore2 2.6 notebook with 4G of RAM, building
 OOo
 sends the load through the roof, especially when it starts printing
 progress
 lines with lots of dots. It's IO blocking on something and the entire
 machine
 just sits there doing nothing whatsoever except sit in a tight loop
 waiting
 for soemthing to happen in the build.

 Try again once emerge OOo has completed. emerge KDE should not affect
 things
 anywhere near the same amount.



   
 
 I'm a snipping.  LOL  I haven't ignored this reply, I been testing some
 things.  It appears that some file types are worse than others.  .mp4
 for example seems to be worse than a .flv.  I'm still trying to make
 some sense out of this so I can report back something that makes sense. 
 Trust me, that can be a challenge for me sometimes.  ;-) 

kmplayer can get in the middle, can you -please- test regular mplayer from
command line?

I've had a similar issue a couple of weeks ago, and we were able to track
it down on the mplayer mailing lists. If it's the same bug, I was able to
consistently reproduce it in streams with ac3 (5.1) audio (stereo worked
fine), and only when using ALSA. So, check that and see if you can see a
pattern there. If you see that same pattern, then it might be the same bug,
it's been fixed in the development branch, and the following ebuilds should
work fine:

1.0_rc4_p20091026, 1.0_rc4_p20091026-r1, 

If not, then it's probably something else. But try with mplayer alone when
debugging, since kmplayer just adds another level to worry about. For your
reference, here's the bug I opened, there you can also find links to the
relevant mails in the mplayer ML.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286020

-- 
Jesús Guerrero

Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

2009-10-30 Thread Philip Webb

091030 Stroller wrote:
 On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote:
 I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA .
 There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet controller,
 which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci').
 A very casual Google suggests
 that this card uses the the atl1e kernel driver / module.  EG:
 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25
 says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs
 CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname.  Have you tried this driver?

Yes, as I said in detail in my OP : 'insmod atl1e' works,
but as before 'pppoe-start' times out when trying to connect to my ISP;
this is using the Gentoo minimal install ISO , which has that driver.
As I also said in my OP, I can't compile a driver (or kernel)
using the install system, as it doesn't have 'make'.

How have others got Gentoo installed on their 1005HA's ?
-- did they all use wireless access to the Internet ?

Again, does anyone have advice re trying a netless install ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

2009-10-30 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:48, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
 091030 Stroller wrote:
 On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote:
 I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA .
 There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet controller,
 which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci').
 A very casual Google suggests
 that this card uses the the atl1e kernel driver / module.  EG:
 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25
 says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs
 CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname.  Have you tried this driver?

 Yes, as I said in detail in my OP : 'insmod atl1e' works,
 but as before 'pppoe-start' times out when trying to connect to my ISP;
 this is using the Gentoo minimal install ISO , which has that driver.
 As I also said in my OP, I can't compile a driver (or kernel)
 using the install system, as it doesn't have 'make'.

 How have others got Gentoo installed on their 1005HA's ?
 -- did they all use wireless access to the Internet ?

 Again, does anyone have advice re trying a netless install ?


I would simply try any other LiveCD. Knoppix works OK for me on most
machines. Gentoo can be installed from any media that's able to use
the hardware.

-- 
Daniel da Veiga

Re: [gentoo-user] memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE


 I'm not sure why your system needed to be checked for each boot.
 Perhaps you can post the exact error message?  I'm pretty sure it wasn't
 fragmentation.  What it *might* be saying (but again we can't verify
 without an error message) is that your filesystem contains errors that
 cannot be fixed in non-interactive mode (i.e. you need to run fsck
 manually).

 It's hard to tell you what option you need when we are unsure what
 problem you are trying to fix.


Look for the thread running e2fsck pre-boot on this list.

Willie Wong had the answer: tune2fs, not e2fsck.

$man tune2fs
...
It is strongly recommended that  either  -c  (mount-count-depen-
  dent)  or -i (time-dependent) checking be enabled to force peri-
  odic full e2fsck(8) checking of the filesystem.  Failure  to  do
  so  may lead to filesystem corruption (due to bad disks, cables,
  memory, or kernel bugs) going unnoticed, ultimately resulting in
  data loss or corruption.
...

 I ran it before on my SSD and it worked like a charm. But I neglected
to run it on the
SD card that holds /home and /var on my eee. Now it is starting to
display the same symptons. Yes I know, ext2 is rather retro, but I was
persuaded to use it by reading the forums and now it's a lot simpler
just to run tune2fs rather thman scrap the system and start again.

mw

Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

I sort of just did a networkless install on my desktop. I only have
very slow dialup at home, but access to wifi once mobile. My netbook
is fairly up-to-date so I used it to download the latest install-iso,
stage3, portage-latest. These I installed on the desktop then copied
over all the distfiles on the netbook to the desktop. Now when I want
to emerge something, the latest tarball is already waiting.

But, of course, you're gonna have the have some sort of web access.

On 10/30/09, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:48, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
091030 Stroller wrote:
On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote:
I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA .
There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet
controller,
which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci').
A very casual Google suggests
that this card uses the the atl1e kernel driver / module. EG:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25
says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs
CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname. Have you tried this driver?

Yes, as I said in detail in my OP : 'insmod atl1e' works,
but as before 'pppoe-start' times out when trying to connect to my ISP;
this is using the Gentoo minimal install ISO , which has that driver.
As I also said in my OP, I can't compile a driver (or kernel)
using the install system, as it doesn't have 'make'.

How have others got Gentoo installed on their 1005HA's ?
-- did they all use wireless access to the Internet ?

Again, does anyone have advice re trying a netless install ?

I would simply try any other LiveCD. Knoppix works OK for me on most
machines. Gentoo can be installed from any media that's able to use
the hardware.

--
Daniel da Veiga

Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

2009-10-30 Thread Stroller



On 30 Oct 2009, at 16:48, Philip Webb wrote:


091030 Stroller wrote:

On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote:

I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA .
There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet  
controller,

which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci').

A very casual Google suggests
that this card uses the the atl1e kernel driver / module.  EG:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25
says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs
CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname.  Have you tried this driver?


Yes, as I said in detail in my OP : 'insmod atl1e' works,
but as before 'pppoe-start' times out when trying to connect to my  
ISP;

this is using the Gentoo minimal install ISO , which has that driver.
As I also said in my OP, I can't compile a driver (or kernel)
using the install system, as it doesn't have 'make'.


I'm really sorry. I skipped over that, because atl1e is part of the in- 
tree sources here (gentoo-sources, since at least august).


Surely you can put the stage4 on a USB stick, untar it to the laptop,  
and then have make once you're chrooted in?


Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE

2009-10-30 Thread Stroller



On 30 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Maxim Wexler wrote:

...
Yes I know, ext2 is rather retro, but I was
persuaded to use it by reading the forums and now it's a lot simpler
just to run tune2fs rather thman scrap the system and start again.


I know you  can convert an ext3 filesystem to ext4. Can you not do the  
same ext2 - ext3?


Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Whose bug is it? [was: hal greps my USB printer - help !]

2009-10-30 Thread James Ausmus

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Helmut Jarausch 
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 After a long search on the net I've found out
 that the permissions of the usb device are set wrong
 (root.usb)
 It looks like an UDEV rule installed by sane-backends
 sets the user to root and the group to usb.
 With these settings CUPS won't recognize/use the printer.

 I had to add the following rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
 (e.g.)

 ATTR{idVendor}==0482, ATTR{idProduct}==0015, MODE:=0777,
  GROUP:=lp, USER:=lp, ENV{libsane_matched}:=yes

 where one has to vary the idVendor and idProduct, of course.

 Even for a casual Gentoo user that's neither trivial nor comfortable.
 If the printer breaks sometime one has to remember to change that rule.
 And it wasn't easy to find that advice.

 Where should I report a bug to ?
 To
 net-print/cups
 or
 media-gfx/sane-backends
 or where else?


Hmm, I'm not entirely convinced there is a bug here... I don't have your
particular situation, but on my system, cupsd runs as root, which means that
it should be able to access the device just fine, whether it's set up as lp
or usb. Is it possible that the user that you are logged in as isn't a
member of the usb group?

-James




 Thanks for your help,
 Helmut.


 --
 Helmut Jarausch

 Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
 RWTH - Aachen University
 D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

2009-10-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Albert Hopkins schrieb:

 I'm using evdev with hal.  I'm told if you use this combination you
 shouldn't have any input devices in xorg.conf.  In fact I don't even
 have an xorg.conf in either my Gentoo or Fedora machines and they both
 work fine. YMMV.

Nice for you. I just gave that a try and removed xorg.conf ... but I run
two monitors on a Nvidia-card so to define their resolutions and
positions I had to generate a config ... and that in turn also contains
input-sections. Removing those only still did not give me working mm-keys.

 Well, it's interesting that it shows EmulateWheelButton because there's
 nothing on the keyboard physically that appears to do that. But anyway,
 just works

I have that EmulateWheelButton (for the keyboard) as well ...

 I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard synaptics mouse in make.conf and
 in the GNOME keyboard preferences I just have Evdev-managed keyboard.
 For kernel config I have:
 
 $ zgrep EVDEV /proc/config.gz 
 CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
 CONFIG_USB_VIDEO_CLASS_INPUT_EVDEV=y
 # CONFIG_USB_PWC_INPUT_EVDEV is not set

Thanks a lot for your helpful infos.

--


Mine looks quite OK now as well:


(II) config/hal: Adding input device Lite-On Technology USB Productivity
Option Keyboard( has the hub in # 1 )
(II) LoadModule: evdev
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 2.2.5
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): always reports core events
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Device: /dev/input/event2
(II) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Found 12 mouse buttons
(II) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Found keys
(II) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Configuring as keyboard
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10,
EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Lite-On Technology USB
Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in # 1 ) (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout us
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Lite-On Technology USB Productivity
Option Keyboard( has the hub in # 1 )
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): always reports core events
(**) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Device: /dev/input/event1
(II) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Found keys
(II) Lite-On Technology USB Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in
# 1 ): Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Lite-On Technology USB
Productivity Option Keyboard( has the hub in # 1 ) (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout de
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event0
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found 12 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4,
EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical
Mouse (type: MOUSE)
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: (accel) set acceleration profile 0
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: initialized for relative axes.


--- No more errors or warnings ... and evdev is used ... OK.

I still get no output/event for those upper seven keys ... oh my.
At least I got a cleaned up xorg.conf for now ;-)

It ain't that important although I would like to see them working, it's
a bit hard to understand that issues like this don't just work as well.

Thanks anyway for help, Stefan

[gentoo-user] Mplayer multi-thread/multi-core ( FFmpeg-mt branch) upgrade

2009-10-30 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o

Speed up the playback of 1080 H.264 files in MPlayer, on multi-core cpus.

Thank You, Nikos Chantziaras

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282154

[gentoo-user] Re: removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-30 Thread James

Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:


 Remove the offending lines from /var/lib/portage/world_sets, then merge the 
 -meta packages you want, finally --depclean to take away those you don't want.


I'm sure glad, the '3 wisemen' (wiseguys?) all agree.
Planets now converging;
World peace is imminent;
and I shall have a good night sleep.
AAU Basketball (tournament) all day;
then KDE4 adventures!


thx,
James

[gentoo-user] Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox

There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After 
performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when 
scrolling in some pages.  Example:


  http://www.simplemachines.org

(Try to scroll up/down).

Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt 
xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't 
make any difference.

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

2009-10-30 Thread Duncan Smith

Thank you both for your quick response.

I'll probably end up taking the virtual machine approach.  I may also
try some sort of chroot solution... I'll see how much of a hassle
vmware is.

2009/10/30 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com:
 On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:

   3. If it is glibc, is there some way to install glibc slotted?  Could
  I install an old version of glibc to some other lib folder (like
  /opt/lib64), and then use LD_LIBRARY_PATH somehow to get the tool to
  look there first?  How?

 You can't have multiple versions of glibc.  And you can't downgrade
 glibc.  Attempting to do so may result in having more than just that
 program misbehaving ;)

 you can have multiple glibc's. Just not via portage.
 But yes, it is a mess. A mess that is most likely to explode violently.


 My suggestion, for your sanity and support: if you insist on Gentoo then
 at least run RHEL4 (or CentOS or whatever) inside a virtual machine and
 run your app from there.


 yeah, I would go down that route too.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After
 performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when
 scrolling in some pages.  Example:
 
http://www.simplemachines.org
 
 (Try to scroll up/down).
 
 Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt
 xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't
 make any difference.
 

do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
because it seems to be fine here.

gtk is 2.18.3 and firefox 3.5.4 here.

[gentoo-user] Re: Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox


On 10/30/2009 09:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After
performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when
scrolling in some pages.  Example:

http://www.simplemachines.org

(Try to scroll up/down).

Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt
xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't
make any difference.



do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
because it seems to be fine here.


http://www.kamenos.gr

[gentoo-user] Re: Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox


On 10/30/2009 09:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After
performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when
scrolling in some pages.  Example:

http://www.simplemachines.org

(Try to scroll up/down).

Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt
xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't
make any difference.



do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
because it seems to be fine here.


I forgot to mention that the problem is only really apparent with 
smooth scrolling enabled (Preferences-Advanced-Use smooth 
scrolling).  It was a bit slow before the update too, but nothing 
serious, but now it's *extremely* slow.

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Duncan Smith wrote:
 Thank you both for your quick response.
 
 I'll probably end up taking the virtual machine approach.  I may also
 try some sort of chroot solution... I'll see how much of a hassle
 vmware is.

chroot can work nicely, but you have to create a gentoo with a very old glibc. 
The problems might not be worth it.

Virtualbox on the other hand is pretty much hassle free in my experience. 
Can't talk about vmware - haven't used that in years ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 
  do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
  because it seems to be fine here.
 
 http://www.kamenos.gr
 

scrolls without any lag. Instant response. No lag at all. 
Even with effects turned on there is no lag.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 10/30/2009 09:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After
  performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when
  scrolling in some pages.  Example:
 
  http://www.simplemachines.org
 
  (Try to scroll up/down).
 
  Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt
  xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't
  make any difference.
 
  do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
  because it seems to be fine here.
 
 I forgot to mention that the problem is only really apparent with
 smooth scrolling enabled (Preferences-Advanced-Use smooth
 scrolling).  It was a bit slow before the update too, but nothing
 serious, but now it's *extremely* slow.
 

'sanften Bildlauf aktivieren'? Turned it on, restarted firefox. There is a 
short jerk when scrolling the page for the first time but after that everything 
is quick.

[gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE

2009-10-30 Thread walt

On 10/30/2009 10:26 AM, Stroller wrote:
 
 On 30 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 ...
 Yes I know, ext2 is rather retro, but I was
 persuaded to use it by reading the forums and now it's a lot simpler
 just to run tune2fs rather thman scrap the system and start again.
 
 I know you  can convert an ext3 filesystem to ext4. Can you not do the
 same ext2 - ext3?

Yes, with the -j flag to tune2fs.

[gentoo-user] Re: Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox


On 10/30/2009 09:39 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Freitag 30 Oktober 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:



do you have a bigger page with more scrolling showing the problem?
because it seems to be fine here.


http://www.kamenos.gr



scrolls without any lag. Instant response. No lag at all.
Even with effects turned on there is no lag.


Then I wonder what's wrong here.  It's so slow, that if I scroll the 
mouse wheel up/down quickly a few times, Firefox is still scrolling for 
several seconds after I stopped using the wheel, trying to catch up. 
Starting with a clean profile didn't help either.


I've updated to Firefox 3.6 Beta (mozilla overlay) and this version 
restores the speed again.  I guess I'll stay with this beta since 
(fortunately) the add-ons I use work with it.


So I guess problem solved. :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Gtk+ update results in slow Firefox

On Friday 30 October 2009 21:16:56 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 There was an update to Gtk+ today (from 2.16.6 to 2.18.3).  After
 performing the update, Firefox (3.5.4) is slow as molasses when
 scrolling in some pages.  Example:
 
http://www.simplemachines.org
 
 (Try to scroll up/down).
 
 Anyone else noticing this or is it just me?  I'm on AMD64.  I've rebuilt
 xulrunner and Firefox after the Gtk+ update just in case, but it didn't
 make any difference.
 

Nope, no problem here.

Same versions as you, on ~amd64 with nvidia proprietary drivers and 
xorg-server-1.7.1

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removing kde4(sets)

On Friday 30 October 2009 20:53:24 James wrote:
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
  Remove the offending lines from /var/lib/portage/world_sets, then merge
  the -meta packages you want, finally --depclean to take away those you
  don't want.
 
 I'm sure glad, the '3 wisemen' (wiseguys?) all agree.
 Planets now converging;
 World peace is imminent;
 and I shall have a good night sleep.
 AAU Basketball (tournament) all day;

basketball you say? I dunno much about basketball, but ...

tomorrow I shall take myself off to see my special good friend Peter who is 
giving me a fantastic deal on a brand new mother of a motorcycle. And in the 
afternoon I shall watch the Blue Bulls thrash the living daylights out of the 
FreeState Cheetahs in the Currie Cup rugby final.

Oh wait, that's all ZA stuff. You probably have no idea what I'm on about :-)

Enjoy your game!


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE

On 10/30/09, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/30/2009 10:26 AM, Stroller wrote:

 On 30 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 ...
 Yes I know, ext2 is rather retro, but I was
 persuaded to use it by reading the forums and now it's a lot simpler
 just to run tune2fs rather thman scrap the system and start again.

 I know you  can convert an ext3 filesystem to ext4. Can you not do the
 same ext2 - ext3?

 Yes, with the -j flag to tune2fs

And it doesn't destroy the files? If so, that's good news.

mw

Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4 update meets kernel update and crashes-FIXED

On 10/29/09, Kyle Adams kad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, this issue.
 I ran into a similar issue before when I was doing the 2.6.29 to 2.6.30
 change.
 Make sure that you have emerged x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
 For some odd reason, I found that those broke when I moved kernels.

 Cheers

 Kad

Yippee! Onward!

ps Anybody on gmail notice that 'reply to all' addresses itself to the
user, not the group. I had to add the group's address by hand.

Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4 update meets kernel update and crashes-FIXED

On Friday 30 October 2009 23:18:06 Maxim Wexler wrote:
 On 10/29/09, Kyle Adams kad...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ah, this issue.
  I ran into a similar issue before when I was doing the 2.6.29 to 2.6.30
  change.
  Make sure that you have emerged x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
  x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
  For some odd reason, I found that those broke when I moved kernels.
 
  Cheers
 
  Kad
 
 Yippee! Onward!
 
 ps Anybody on gmail notice that 'reply to all' addresses itself to the
 user, not the group. I had to add the group's address by hand.
 

H. We used to have

Reply-Munging Considered Harmful

then we got

Reply-Munging Considered Harmful: A Rebuttal

now it looks like we have

Reply Munging: The Google Way

:-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE

2009-10-30 Thread Kyle Bader

And iirc you can got ext3 - ext2.  The same does not hold true for
ext4 - ext3.

On 10/30/09, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/30/2009 10:26 AM, Stroller wrote:

 On 30 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 ...
 Yes I know, ext2 is rather retro, but I was
 persuaded to use it by reading the forums and now it's a lot simpler
 just to run tune2fs rather thman scrap the system and start again.

 I know you  can convert an ext3 filesystem to ext4. Can you not do the
 same ext2 - ext3?

 Yes, with the -j flag to tune2fs.




-- 
Sent from my mobile device


Kyle

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

2009-10-30 Thread Kyle Bader

Avoiding 1, 2, and 3 but thought I'd propose a 4 other than a virtual
machine.  Ask the vendor if they can provide a statically compiled
version, that way you don't have to worry about libc.  I dunno how
flexible the vendor is but its worth asking :)

On 10/30/09, Duncan Smith duncanphilipnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 The company I work for is using gentoo on all its machines.  We just
 got a license to a commercial tool which does not support gentoo.  The
 closest thing it supports is RHEL v4.

 Running any command provided by the tool results in an explosive
 memory leak (virtual memory hits 400G in 1 second, and continues to
 climb).

 I suspect the problem is that RHEL v4 uses =sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4,
 whereas we have =sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2 installed.

 I have three questions:
  1. Am I posting to the right list?
  2. Any idea what's going on?  Could it be something other than glibc
 causing the problem?
  3. If it is glibc, is there some way to install glibc slotted?  Could
 I install an old version of glibc to some other lib folder (like
 /opt/lib64), and then use LD_LIBRARY_PATH somehow to get the tool to
 look there first?  How?

 Thanks for any help or ideas.

 Duncan

 P.S. In case it's useful, here is the output of ldd:
 linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff9e3ff000)
 libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x7f49c871b000)
 libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x7f49c8503000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f49c827e000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f49c807a000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f49c7d07000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f49c897a000)



-- 
Sent from my mobile device


Kyle

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)

On Friday 30 October 2009 23:52:10 Kyle Bader wrote:
 Avoiding 1, 2, and 3 but thought I'd propose a 4 other than a virtual
 machine.  Ask the vendor if they can provide a statically compiled
 version, that way you don't have to worry about libc.  I dunno how
 flexible the vendor is but its worth asking :)


If it's a somewhat critical machine for business, just drop a new stand-alone 
box running RHEL4. Critical machines usually generate|save more cash than the 
cost of the box they run on








 On 10/30/09, Duncan Smith duncanphilipnor...@gmail.com wrote:
  The company I work for is using gentoo on all its machines.  We just
  got a license to a commercial tool which does not support gentoo.  The
  closest thing it supports is RHEL v4.
 
  Running any command provided by the tool results in an explosive
  memory leak (virtual memory hits 400G in 1 second, and continues to
  climb).
 
  I suspect the problem is that RHEL v4 uses =sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4,
  whereas we have =sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2 installed.
 
  I have three questions:
   1. Am I posting to the right list?
   2. Any idea what's going on?  Could it be something other than glibc
  causing the problem?
   3. If it is glibc, is there some way to install glibc slotted?  Could
  I install an old version of glibc to some other lib folder (like
  /opt/lib64), and then use LD_LIBRARY_PATH somehow to get the tool to
  look there first?  How?
 
  Thanks for any help or ideas.
 
  Duncan
 
  P.S. In case it's useful, here is the output of ldd:
  linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff9e3ff000)
  libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x7f49c871b000)
  libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x7f49c8503000)
  libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f49c827e000)
  libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f49c807a000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f49c7d07000)
  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f49c897a000)
 

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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog-DONE

2009-10-30 Thread walt

On 10/30/2009 02:12 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 On 10/30/09, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/30/2009 10:26 AM, Stroller wrote:

 I know you  can convert an ext3 filesystem to ext4. Can you not do the
 same ext2 - ext3?

 Yes, with the -j flag to tune2fs
 
 And it doesn't destroy the files? If so, that's good news.

The man page says you can even do it to a mounted filesystem, but I'd
be more comfortable running tune2fs -j from a live CD or similar.

I haven't actually done this since ext3 became the standard many years
ago, but I'm pretty sure I converted unmounted partitions.

YMMV, naturally, and you might want to sacrifice a live chicken in front
of the computer before starting.  Couldn't hurt.

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)