Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 09:09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I would hate to know that you guys got bored and needed something to do. LOL And here I am reading this thread while Firefox using something like 800M of RAM just by itself... I got you beat tho. 27229 dale 20 0 770m 271m 38m S 39 1.7 22:46.02 seamonkey-bin 27210 dale 20 0 750m 219m 38m S 5 1.4 34:57.04 firefox I got both Seamonkey and Firefox running. Neat huh? Of course, I got plenty of ram. root@fireball / # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 16080 15559 520 0 510 13315 -/+ buffers/cache: 1733 14346 Swap: 956 0 956 root@fireball / # I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. Dale :-) :-) AFAIK there's not yet a vic20 or ~vic20 in Portage, so... Go ahead :-D Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
[gentoo-user] 2.6.38-r1 kernel boot problem with acpi support
Hi all, My six-year old laptop does not boot anymore with 2.6.38-r1 kernel and acpi support. I saw the related bug here : http://us.generation-nt.com/bug-619433-linux-image-2-6-38-1-686-early-crash-acpi-regression-help-202664292.html Have you any information to solve that problem ? Thank you very much, Cheers, -- Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:30:24 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. On the other hand, xorg-server 1.9.5 is perfectly fine! ;-) A lot cheaper than upgrading my video card, too -- they only sell the video card I need when you buy the whole laptop! Oh, well. It was just a thought. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 09:09, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I got you beat tho. 27229 dale 20 0 770m 271m 38m S 39 1.7 22:46.02 seamonkey-bin 27210 dale 20 0 750m 219m 38m S5 1.4 34:57.04 firefox I got both Seamonkey and Firefox running. Neat huh? Of course, I got plenty of ram. root@fireball / # free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 16080 15559520 0510 13315 -/+ buffers/cache: 1733 14346 Swap: 956 0956 root@fireball / # I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. Dale :-) :-) AFAIK there's not yet a vic20 or ~vic20 in Portage, so... Go ahead :-D Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Do you know what a Vic-20 is? It came out a bit before the Commodore 64. I guess the Vic-20 was my first computer, if you want to call it that. I think mine ran at 2Mhz and had just a few K of ram. Seems like it was 4K or so. This may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 It would take a small Linux to run on that. Would be interesting to see tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:09:56 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. It's been done on a C-64, but I think a 3.5KB box with no mass storage might be a little too challenging. -- Neil Bothwick Old hitchhikers never die-they just throw in the towel. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:09:56 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. It's been done on a C-64, but I think a 3.5KB box with no mass storage might be a little too challenging. I had the little cassette thing to store my stuff on. I think the OS in on a ROM which would be hard to get around unless the ROM was changed. Then it may not really be a Vic-20 anymore. I'm not sure about the C64 since I got me a 20Mhz oscilloscope to work on TVs and stuff. I still got the scope tho. My biggest use for my old Vic-20 was a alarm clock. Worked fine unless the power went out. Well, that sounds like todays alarm clock. lol I guess some things never change. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On 2011-04-03 10:53, Dale wrote:
Do you know what a Vic-20 is? It came out a bit before the Commodore
64. I guess the Vic-20 was my first computer, if you want to call it
that. I think mine ran at 2Mhz and had just a few K of ram. Seems like
it was 4K or so. This may help:
Of course, completely off-topic, but interesting non-the-less...
www.c64web.com
I started programming on a Vic-20, moved on to C64, Amiga {500,4000}
then PC with GNU/Linux.
Best regards
Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On 04/03/11 20:04, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:09:56 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. It's been done on a C-64, but I think a 3.5KB box with no mass storage might be a little too challenging. I had the little cassette thing to store my stuff on. I think the OS in on a ROM which would be hard to get around unless the ROM was changed. Then it may not really be a Vic-20 anymore. I'm not sure about the C64 since I got me a 20Mhz oscilloscope to work on TVs and stuff. I still got the scope tho. My biggest use for my old Vic-20 was a alarm clock. Worked fine unless the power went out. Well, that sounds like todays alarm clock. lol I guess some things never change. Dale :-) :-) The ol' Vic-20 was my first computer as well. I remember you had two choices; boot from a cartridge (usually a game, Radar Rat Race was one of my favourites), or boot from the internal O/S. if you chose the latter, you could (IIRC) issue a load program_name and it would go to the cassette tape drive and start reading, so very very slowly, the tape from the beginning and try to find a program with the name you specified. I had a subscription to Compute magazine, and entered the programs from there in either Basic or binary, and was amazed at what it could do. I even tried to do some of my own programs in Basic, but at about 6-8 years old, it was a bit beyond me. :-P Jake
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
on 2011-04-03 at 10:47 Neil Bothwick wrote: It's been done on a C-64, but I think a 3.5KB box with no mass storage might be a little too challenging. 3.5? wow, i always thought that the name meant it had 20K... like the C64 and C128. but no. now, almost 30 years later, i learn that it had 5K, 1.5 of them used by the system (you wouldn't want to leave the system without ram, would you?) i never had a vic-20 (my first computer was the atari st-1040 in 1988), but a friend of mine had one in the early 80's and i always wondered at all the things you could do with the thing. i couldn't program, so i used to sit next by him telling him my ideas for a program for algorithmic composition, that he tried to code.
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Saturday 02 April 2011 23:47:42 Neil Bothwick wrote: Yes. the script that I use to start up and enter the chroot for each system not only does the usual mounting of /dev/ and /proc in the chroot, it also rsyncs /etc/portage and /var/lib/portage/world* with the real target. Make.conf has to be maintained manually, because there are settings in the two that need to be different, although I suppose I could split out the common settings, USE, CHOST etc, into a separate file and source that. In my case the chroot is identical in structure to the real target, apart from the number of cores, so I can copy make.conf into the chroot without risk. to those on its target? And do you nfs-mount only the PKGDIR, or the whole of /usr/portage/ ? Just PKGDIR and DISTDIR, I have an NFS exported directory that contains a global DISTDIR and individual PKGDIRS, as well as my and layman's overlays. I'm hoping not to have to use any overlays here, mostly because the target box is going to be a LAN server, so shouldn't need any cutting-edge versions of anything. My setup mounts /usr/portage over nfs from the target; it's going to contain the latest tree for rsync'ing clients from, so it's the master version. Interesting - many thanks. It's all getting quite involved. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.comwrote: On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been a few years since I upgraded. I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very good machine under gentoo. -- Valmor I have the X200. I use it with 8GB of ram, so all compilation of Gentoo system and Catalyst is done on the ram. Really good. 8GB cost me on ebay 90$ ! The wifi works good, but again as Valmor said there is no cam on the laptop. I also don't have touch pad, just the red stick. I like it that way. The computer goes to sleep, but I didn't tried to hibernate. I have also the X60s and it is a bad laptop. It gets really hot, fairly quickly, and it is very annoying. About the wifi: take care that the wifi card can be changed, as it is a pcie card. So if the laptop seems to be good for the buck, and the wifi is not what you want, you can just buy one of the good wifi cards on ebay and replace it on your new laptop. This of course will void the warranty ;-) Other thing you should consider is the battery life. In my Thinkpad x60s I have upgraded the battery to a 12cell big one, and it lasts about 7-9 hours. Such a battery is hard to fine for other brands of laptops. You will usually find them for thinkpads, I guess because their made for work. I think it cost me about 60$ or so on ebay. Regards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:09:56 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. It's been done on a C-64, but I think a 3.5KB box with no mass storage might be a little too challenging. I had the little cassette thing to store my stuff on. I think the OS in on a ROM which would be hard to get around unless the ROM was changed. Then it may not really be a Vic-20 anymore. I'm not sure about the C64 since I got me a 20Mhz oscilloscope to work on TVs and stuff. I still got the scope tho. The first UNIX system was on a PDP-7 with 8K of memory and loaded by paper tape... so you never know what might be possible. :)
[gentoo-user] x11-terms/enterminus-9999 won't compile
enterminus fails to compile - any ideas why? = Emerging (1 of 1) x11-terms/enterminus- from enlightenment * Package:x11-terms/enterminus- * Repository: enlightenment * Maintainer: enlightenm...@gentoo.org * USE:elibc_glibc kernel_linux nls userland_GNU x86 * FEATURES: ccache sandbox usersandbox Unpacking source... * subversion update start -- * repository: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/PROTO/enterminus At revision 58306. *working copy: /usr/portage/distfiles/svn- src/enlightenment/PROTO/enterminus * Running eautoreconf in '/var/tmp/portage/x11- terms/enterminus-/work/enterminus' ... * Running aclocal ... [ ok ] * Running libtoolize --copy --force --install --automake ... [ ok ] * Running aclocal ... [ ok ] * Running autoconf ... [ ok ] * Running autoheader ... [ ok ] * Running automake --add-missing --copy ... [ ok ] * Running elibtoolize in: enterminus/ * Applying portage-2.2.patch ... * Applying sed-1.5.6.patch ... * Applying as-needed-2.2.6.patch ... * Removing useless C++ checks ... [ ok ] Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/x11-terms/enterminus-/work Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/x11- terms/enterminus-/work/enterminus ... * econf: updating enterminus/config.guess with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess * econf: updating enterminus/config.sub with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub ./configure --prefix=/usr --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share -- sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking dependency style of i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc3 checking for library containing strerror... none required checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... (cached) i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed checking dependency style of i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... (cached) gcc3 checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... (cached) i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed checking dependency style of i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... (cached) gcc3 checking how to run the C preprocessor... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -E checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking how to print strings... printf checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for fgrep... /bin/grep -F checking for ld used by i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /usr/bin/nm -B checking the name lister (/usr/bin/nm -B) interface... BSD nm checking whether ln -s works... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864 checking whether the shell understands some XSI constructs... yes checking whether the shell understands +=... yes checking for /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-objdump... i686-pc-linux-gnu-objdump checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip... i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:55:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Yes. the script that I use to start up and enter the chroot for each system not only does the usual mounting of /dev/ and /proc in the chroot, it also rsyncs /etc/portage and /var/lib/portage/world* with the real target. Make.conf has to be maintained manually, because there are settings in the two that need to be different, although I suppose I could split out the common settings, USE, CHOST etc, into a separate file and source that. In my case the chroot is identical in structure to the real target, apart from the number of cores, so I can copy make.conf into the chroot without risk. You probably don't want EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--usepkg in the chroot's make.conf. I also turn off the ELOG* functions in the chroot, as the emails it sends contain the wrong hostname, leading to much confusion. -- Neil Bothwick / For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. / signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users. Cheers -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:08:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: You probably don't want EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--usepkg in the chroot's make.conf. In fact I don't have it in either of them; so far I've been issuing manual parameters. When I've settled the process down I'll encapsulate it in scripts. I also turn off the ELOG* functions in the chroot, as the emails it sends contain the wrong hostname, leading to much confusion. Good idea. Logging isn't working for me yet either, but with any luck it will be. Thanks again -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:12:32 Robin Atwood wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) I meant to say before, but one big advantage of my T61, now a couple of years old, is that I can disable that execrable touch-pad in the BIOS - much finer config control than I've had in a laptop before. Well done, anyway. Good luck with it. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:20:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users. Cheers -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- Everything runs on the thinkpad, I even had mine running plan9 for awhile. :) -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v' caveat utilitor
[gentoo-user] Re: x11-terms/enterminus-9999 won't compile
On 04/03/2011 09:45 AM, Mick wrote: enterminus fails to compile - any ideas why? term.c:338: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘ecore_timer_add’ from incompatible pointer type /usr/include/ecore-1/Ecore.h:534: note: expected ‘Ecore_Task_Cb’ but argument is of type ‘int (*)(struct Term *)’ make[3]: *** [term.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs Just a wild guess: I see lots of warnings, but no real error message. (I'm not sure if that note: is an error or a warning.) Anyway, looks like you're compiling with -j 1, so I'd suggest trying again with -j1 just for fun.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-terms/enterminus-9999 won't compile
On Sunday 03 April 2011 19:21:05 walt wrote: On 04/03/2011 09:45 AM, Mick wrote: enterminus fails to compile - any ideas why? term.c:338: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘ecore_timer_add’ from incompatible pointer type /usr/include/ecore-1/Ecore.h:534: note: expected ‘Ecore_Task_Cb’ but argument is of type ‘int (*)(struct Term *)’ make[3]: *** [term.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs Just a wild guess: I see lots of warnings, but no real error message. (I'm not sure if that note: is an error or a warning.) Anyway, looks like you're compiling with -j 1, so I'd suggest trying again with -j1 just for fun. Thanks Walt, just tried it, but it fails in the same way. All I now see is this: [snip ...] In file included from pty.c:1: term.h:1:1: warning: _GNU_SOURCE redefined command-line: warning: this is the location of the previous definition pty.c: In function ‘execute_command’: pty.c:121: warning: ignoring return value of ‘chdir’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result mv -f .deps/pty.Tpo .deps/pty.Po i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../lib -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -pthread -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/evas-1 - I/usr/include/librsvg-2.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/libpng14 - I/usr/include/eet-1 -I/usr/include/SDL -I/usr/include/freetype2 - I/usr/include/eina-1 -I/usr/include/eina-1/eina -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 - I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 - I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/qt4 -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui - I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/ecore-1 - I/usr/include/ecore-1 -I/usr/include/eina-1 -I/usr/include/eina-1/eina - Wall -O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -pipe -MT term.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/term.Tpo -c -o term.o term.c In file included from term.c:1: term.h:1:1: warning: _GNU_SOURCE redefined command-line: warning: this is the location of the previous definition term.c:144: error: conflicting types for ‘term_tcanvas_data’ term.h:156: note: previous declaration of ‘term_tcanvas_data’ was here term.c: In function ‘term_init’: term.c:337: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘ecore_timer_add’ from incompatible pointer type /usr/include/ecore-1/Ecore.h:534: note: expected ‘Ecore_Task_Cb’ but argument is of type ‘int (*)(void *)’ term.c:338: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘ecore_timer_add’ from incompatible pointer type /usr/include/ecore-1/Ecore.h:534: note: expected ‘Ecore_Task_Cb’ but argument is of type ‘int (*)(struct Term *)’ make[3]: *** [term.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/x11- terms/enterminus-/work/enterminus/src/bin' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/x11- terms/enterminus-/work/enterminus/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/x11- terms/enterminus-/work/enterminus' make: *** [all] Error 2 emake failed * ERROR: x11-terms/enterminus- failed (compile phase): * (no error message) * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile * environment, line 2791: Called enlightenment_src_compile * environment, line 1465: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die; -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:24:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: Logging isn't working for me yet either, I should have said that e-mailing of logs isn't working. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
I had the little cassette thing to store my stuff on. I think the OS in on a ROM which would be hard to get around unless the ROM was changed. Then it may not really be a Vic-20 anymore. I'm not sure about the C64 since I got me a 20Mhz oscilloscope to work on TVs and stuff. I still got the scope tho. My biggest use for my old Vic-20 was a alarm clock. Worked fine unless the power went out. Well, that sounds like todays alarm clock. lol I guess some things never change. That's really funny, Dale. That brings back memories (and more than 5K of them!). My dad gave me a VIC-20 when I was in college and I used it for several years. I wrote lots of BASIC apps to ease all the ciphering I had to do for enzyme kinetics, chemistry labs and things like that. I had a cassette tape which was slow but it was a heck of a lot faster than typing in your program every time! -- Bill Longman
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID on new install
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:46 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I'm about to install a dual HD (mirrored) gentoo software raid system, with BTRFS. Suggestion, guides and documents to reference are all welcome. I have this link, which is down as the best example: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software Additionally, I have these links for a guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml Any other Raid/LVM/BTRFS information I should reference? James The last guide recommends using raid0 on some partitions; everytime I use LVM2, I use nothing but raid1 partitions. I'd rather have the full raid1 than partial raid 1 + speed of raid0.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to change from one harddrive to software raid
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Einux einux...@gmail.com wrote: thank you guys, you've been helpful :) On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.orgwrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2011 07:28:40 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 30.03.2011 05:02, schrieb Einux: Hi, I bought a new 1T harddrive which is exactly the same as my previous harddrive. So I'm planning to make a Raid-1 layout(for security reasons). But here's the problem: I've already setup LVM2 on the existing harddrive and I don't want to destroy the existing LVM volume groups. I tried to google it, but I'm not sure which is the right keyword. Could you guys help me out? Thanks in advance:) 1. Create a degenerated RAID1 with your new disk mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 missing /dev/sdb 2. Partition the raid device 3. Add one of the partitions to your LVM volume group. pvcreate /dev/sdb2 vgextend volume_group /dev/sdb2 4. Move everything from the old physical volumes to the new pv. pvmove /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb2 5. Remove the old and now empty physical volume vgreduce volume_group /dev/sda3 6. Move everything else which is not on LVM to your new raid. Guess you need to go to single user mode to do this safely. 7. Grow your raid to also contain the old disk. mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sda No, I have not tested this and you should double-check everything. No guarantees, etc. One warning, though: pvmove is known to create problems from time to time. Leaking memory, bogging systems with infinite system load and so on. If it gives you trouble, you can abort it with `pvmove --abort` and try it again later by calling `pvmove volume_group` (without physical device specified) to resume it. It SHOULD survive system crashes. Trying another kernel version sometimes helps when pvmove gives you trouble. To avoid that, with large moves, do the following: # pvmove -i 600 /dev/sda3 The -i 600 means, only report every 10 minutes. It's the reporting that causes the memory leak. Also, when just wanting to empty one physical volume, it is not necessary to specify the target. It's a good idea to mark the PVs on the existing drive non-allocatable. Then LVM won't try to move anything to that PV: # pvchange -xn /dev/sda3 The rest of the steps read correct. It's how I did a similar operation, but still double-check all the parameters and when in doubt, read the manual and/or ask on the list. -- Joost Roeleveld -- Best Regards, Einux I starred this in Gmail in case I ever need to do something like this. Thanks guys!
[gentoo-user] Which network monitoring?
Hello users! I am transitioning my infrastructure back-ends from Windows to Gentoo Linux. The next server to be transitioned is our infrastructure monitoring server. Currently, we're using WebWatchBot. Its abilities that we use are: - Monitoring Internet connection up/down (we have 4 Internet connections) - Monitoring website (which we host on a 3rd party webhosting) by searching for a keyword using HTTP - Monitoring free space on other servers (mostly Windows-based, thuse we use WMI) - Monitoring services on Windows-based servers (again, WMI) - Sending alerts to selected groups (PICs) when failure exceeds a threshold (e.g., Systems group will receive alerts for their database servers, Infrastructure group will receive all alerts) Can you recommend a suitable monitoring system for Gentoo? Thanks beforehand. Rgds, -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Bill Longman wrote: I had the little cassette thing to store my stuff on. I think the OS in on a ROM which would be hard to get around unless the ROM was changed. Then it may not really be a Vic-20 anymore. I'm not sure about the C64 since I got me a 20Mhz oscilloscope to work on TVs and stuff. I still got the scope tho. My biggest use for my old Vic-20 was a alarm clock. Worked fine unless the power went out. Well, that sounds like todays alarm clock. lol I guess some things never change. That's really funny, Dale. That brings back memories (and more than 5K of them!). My dad gave me a VIC-20 when I was in college and I used it for several years. I wrote lots of BASIC apps to ease all the ciphering I had to do for enzyme kinetics, chemistry labs and things like that. I had a cassette tape which was slow but it was a heck of a lot faster than typing in your program every time! -- Bill Longman The embarrassing part for me was when we got a Atari. My Dad played missile command and got well over a million points on that thing. He was like a little kid on that thing. Me, I liked the little chicken crossing the road. The cassette tape was nice. I had to walk about 6 miles to buy mine. It was the last one they had too. I already feel old but I think I'm really getting old now. It is amazing how far computer have come tho. Both in hardware and the OS, well, except for windoze. It hasn't come that far yet. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
I already feel old but I think I'm really getting old now. It is amazing how far computer have come tho. Both in hardware and the OS, well, except for windoze. It hasn't come that far yet. lol If windows hasnt come far for you, then you've never used the pre-windows 2000 editions, let alone 3.1 :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Adam Carter wrote: I already feel old but I think I'm really getting old now. It is amazing how far computer have come tho. Both in hardware and the OS, well, except for windoze. It hasn't come that far yet. lol If windows hasnt come far for you, then you've never used the pre-windows 2000 editions, let alone 3.1 :) When 3.1 came out, I changed careers. I worked for a major computer company until 3.1 came out. They had plenty of Apple techs since they didn't break much so I just found a new job and a new career. I was around when DOS was the thing, although it wasn't to good either. Oh the 5 1/4 drive days brings back memories. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Which network monitoring?
On 4/3/2011 7:10 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Hello users! I am transitioning my infrastructure back-ends from Windows to Gentoo Linux. The next server to be transitioned is our infrastructure monitoring server. Currently, we're using WebWatchBot. Its abilities that we use are: - Monitoring Internet connection up/down (we have 4 Internet connections) - Monitoring website (which we host on a 3rd party webhosting) by searching for a keyword using HTTP - Monitoring free space on other servers (mostly Windows-based, thuse we use WMI) - Monitoring services on Windows-based servers (again, WMI) - Sending alerts to selected groups (PICs) when failure exceeds a threshold (e.g., Systems group will receive alerts for their database servers, Infrastructure group will receive all alerts) Can you recommend a suitable monitoring system for Gentoo? Nagios still works well for me. And it'll do some wmi stuff, IIRC. I've been using a combination of Mysql backed Puppet with stored resources for system management. Then push Nagios configs to the Nagios server via tags in Puppet. Still working to get it right, but it's about there. Next step is to get collectd working with Nagios as well. kashani
