[gentoo-user] resizing multiple images with adding a frame as needed
Hi, suppose I have a number of images that need to be displayed side by side in a nice layout. The images are of different sizes and have different aspect ratios. To fit the images into the layout, I can scale the images either by height or width or by percantage, and they will look messy in the layout because I need to keep their aspect ratio when scaling them. So what I need to do is put a frame around each image just as needed when scaling it so that I will end up with all the images having the same size while maintaining their aspect ratio. I guess 'convert' (from imagemagick) or 'ffmpeg' can do this, yet I couldn't find out how. (In this particular case, I would set a default size to scale all images to rather than doing something more complicated like examine all images in advance to compute a good size to use from the largest or smallest one or from their average dimensions.) Any ideas how to do this?
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:45:58 +0200, David Haller wrote: You can also start USE with -* in make.conf to turn everything off then set your own choices. This is the ideal setup for those who prefer to spend more time fixing their computer than using it. Hah! Hey, I got no printer, had others print about 5 pages for me in ~10 years. Why would I want cups? You do know that only the desktop profiles include cups as a default USE flag? The one I recommended does not. -- Neil Bothwick WindowError:01B Illegal error. Do NOT get this error. pgpnBgF7RIvxW.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] resizing multiple images with adding a frame as needed
hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Hi, suppose I have a number of images that need to be displayed side by side in a nice layout. The images are of different sizes and have different aspect ratios. To fit the images into the layout, I can scale the images either by height or width or by percantage, and they will look messy in the layout because I need to keep their aspect ratio when scaling them. So what I need to do is put a frame around each image just as needed when scaling it so that I will end up with all the images having the same size while maintaining their aspect ratio. I guess 'convert' (from imagemagick) or 'ffmpeg' can do this, yet I couldn't find out how. (In this particular case, I would set a default size to scale all images to rather than doing something more complicated like examine all images in advance to compute a good size to use from the largest or smallest one or from their average dimensions.) Any ideas how to do this? You maybe can use media-gfx/graphicsmagick or media-gfx/imagemagick for that purpose (I prefer graphicsmagick because it's faster). With the composite command and it's repage parameter it should be possible to do what you want. But I'm not sure about this, I never done this by myself. -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:35:10 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: I really like to have control over my machine as much as possible. In this way I will learn a lot, so I am trying to remove all the default use flags and control them manually. [..] You can also start USE with -* in make.conf to turn everything off then set your own choices. This is the ideal setup for those who prefer to spend more time fixing their computer than using it. Hah! # find /usr/local/portage/*/ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | wc -l 55 Hey, I got no printer, had others print about 5 pages for me in ~10 years. Why would I want cups? And BTW: qtwebkit:5 compiles just fine without leveldb (with a little -D help)... --- /usr/portage/dev-qt/qtwebkit/qtwebkit-5.4.2.ebuild 2015-06-17 17:24:04.0 +0200 +++ /usr/local/portage/dev-qt/qtwebkit/qtwebkit-5.4.2.ebuild 2015-06-23 07:05:01.823067740 +0200 @@ -14,13 +14,13 @@ # TODO: qttestlib, geolocation, orientation/sensors -IUSE=gstreamer gstreamer010 multimedia opengl printsupport qml udev webp +IUSE=gstreamer gstreamer010 multimedia opengl printsupport qml udev webp leveldb REQUIRED_USE=?? ( gstreamer gstreamer010 multimedia ) RDEPEND= dev-db/sqlite:3 dev-libs/icu:= - =dev-libs/leveldb-1.18-r1 + leveldb? ( =dev-libs/leveldb-1.18-r1 ) dev-libs/libxml2:2 dev-libs/libxslt =dev-qt/qtcore-${PV}:5[icu] @@ -88,6 +88,9 @@ use webp || sed -i -e '/config_libwebp: WEBKIT_CONFIG += use_webp/d' \ Tools/qmake/mkspecs/features/features.prf || die + use leveldb || sed -i -e 's/ENABLE_INDEXED_DATABASE=1/ENABLE_INDEXED_DATABASE=0/' \ + Tools/qmake/mkspecs/features/features.pri || die + # bug 458222 sed -i -e '/SUBDIRS += examples/d' Source/QtWebKit.pro || die As I hate cmake, I don't know if there's a better way to inject that ENABLE_INDEXED_DATABASE=0 or something to that into the build process. It works, I'm happy ;) Oh, and BTW, mozillen (via mozconfig) work just fine without a spellchecker. Which I hate and never use. They distract more and introduce errors that anything else, so I patch eclass/mozconfig-*.eclass. BTW2: how can I overlay my eclass stuff over the /usr/portage one? ATM, I just copy it over after each sync. -dnh, minimalist, obviously ;) -- my other signature is more intellectual
Re: [gentoo-user] One Time Passwords
Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2015, 14:49:41 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, I'd like to log into my Gentoo system from my smartphone. But I don't trust Google (Android's parents). Therefore I need a OTP solution for loggin into my Gentoo system. Can anybody recommend a solution? I set up a RADIUS/OTP system with mOTP. This works with android. Perhaps you also have a look at http://www.multiotp.net for different OTP schemems. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Michael Schwartzkopff -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64, +49 (162) 165 0044 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 23/06/2015 09:27, Ran Shalit wrote: I am a beginner with Gentoo. I have followed the instruction for the installation, and tried to see that I really understand all of them. There is the command: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Which I'm not sure I really understand. [..] 2. Another thing I've noticed is that some tutorial add to the above also bind to sys folder , and other do not include it. mount -o bind /sys /mnt/gentoo/sys The handbook says to do it, and it makes sense to do it. Any tutorial that doesn't say it, is wrong/outdated or it's author doesn't understand. If the official handbook says to do it, and some other post from Joe Random Blogger says not to, which one you gonna believe? Therefore I would like to ask if it is really required ? Yes ACK. There's more actually. Currently, I run Gentoo mostly in a chroot from my old system[1], and also updated it that way[2]. Currently, I use this script to chroot into gentoo: /root/bin/chrooter #!/bin/bash root=$1 shift ### those test -e check for files/subdirs to not bind-remount if I ### chroot in more than one xterm, /dev/shm/dh is just a subdir I ### create via a custom boot-script on the old system, you'll have to ### revert to grepping /proc/mounts for ${root}/dev/shm if your ### /dev/shm is empty, and mind you: I use /Gentoo as $root, but it ### appears as /root_ssd2 in /proc/mounts! test -e ${root}/proc/kcore || mount --bind /proc/ ${root}/proc test -e ${root}/sys/block || mount --bind /sys/ ${root}/sys test -e ${root}/dev/zero || mount --bind /dev/ ${root}/dev test -e ${root}/dev/shm/dh || mount --bind /dev/shm ${root}/dev/shm test -e ${root}/dev/pts/0 || mount --bind /dev/pts/ ${root}/dev/pts ### convenient way to mount further stuff outside the chroot (with the ### appropriate fstab entries). Ran, you should just ignore these lines for d in $@; do grep -q $d /proc/mounts || mount $d done ### adjust the environment (old system still uses iso8859-15) export LANG=en_US.utf8 unset LC_CTYPE ### finally do the chroot cd $root chroot $root So, basically, I bind-mount the usual /proc, /sys, /dev plus /dev/shm and /dev/pts. IIRC compiling some stuff barfed when /dev/shm was not available (icedtea?) and /dev/pts gives proper terminals (cf. output of 'tty'). HTH have fun, -dnh [1] have not migrated/tested my much used programs under gentoo yet and too much to do, but most stuff runs from the chroot (even X stuff once I copied my ~/.Xauthority :) [2] from a 2010 install not touched since then! Had to use the unpacked stage3 a couple of times setting PATH/LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the stage3 directory (due to emerge/glibc stuff), I definitely do _NOT_ recommend this ;) Was fun though and I learned a lot about the inner workings of emerge/gentoo :) -- No, it's a small country on the South American Ivory Coast, just to the left of the Caucasus, with penguin wool and yucca meat as primary exports. -- H. Ekker on the question if Austria is in Europe
Re: [gentoo-user] One Time Passwords
On 06/23/2015 02:55:35 PM, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2015, 14:49:41 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, I'd like to log into my Gentoo system from my smartphone. But I don't trust Google (Android's parents). Therefore I need a OTP solution for loggin into my Gentoo system. Can anybody recommend a solution? I set up a RADIUS/OTP system with mOTP. This works with android. What's that? Many thanks, Helmut.
[gentoo-user] One Time Passwords
Hi, I'd like to log into my Gentoo system from my smartphone. But I don't trust Google (Android's parents). Therefore I need a OTP solution for loggin into my Gentoo system. Can anybody recommend a solution? Many thanks, Helmut
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnu Common Lisp / cl-ppcre and ... sbcl???
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: It would be THAT nice to get sbcl running, since it is very activilky supported and maintained and it is what I run on my Beaglebone Black (another somehow bigger embedded system) and my PC. Any Way out of this ? Best regards, Meino Sorry! It seems you're right. SBCL requires vfp, softfp just means the abi is compatible with the soft abi. My last suggestion is ECL. It has a package on Debian's soft float port. https://common-lisp.net/project/ecl/ --David
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:35:10 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: I really like to have control over my machine as much as possible. In this way I will learn a lot, so I am trying to remove all the default use flags and control them manually. I just don't know which global use flags are absolutely necessary to the system to make it snappier or secure. What do you recommend ? Use a minimal profile like default/linux/amd64/13.0 which will set only the USE flags most people need. From there you can disable individual flags if you think you don't need them. You can also start USE with -* in make.conf to turn everything off then set your own choices. This is the ideal setup for those who prefer to spend more time fixing their computer than using it. -- Neil Bothwick A man needs a mistress - just to break the monogamy pgpw9mjcLypNH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
Hello everyone. I really like to have control over my machine as much as possible. In this way I will learn a lot, so I am trying to remove all the default use flags and control them manually. I just don't know which global use flags are absolutely necessary to the system to make it snappier or secure. What do you recommend ? Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2015, at 3:16 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am seriously thinking of updating my dell 6430s laptop purchased 3 years ago. NYU has an arrangement with dell so that is the only maker I am considering. This machine will be essentially gentoo only (I configure my computers to dual boot some version of windows for ease in dealing with dell support). The hardest decision is size vs performance, but I know you can't help with that. I have pretty much decided on the dell 7450. My questions concern three options: Graphics, Wireless, Screen. But would appreciate any other advice you have. I will definitely get * 16GB ram (2 x 8GB) * 512GB solid state disk * most powerful CPU compatible with the options chosen 1. Graphics. I can afford a high-end graphics co-processor, but prefer the software/administrative simplicity of intel graphics. I do not play high speed games or otherwise run graphics intensive applications. Am I correct in believing that Linux (the kernel) supports (the dell option) Intel Core i7-5600U Processor, UMA graphics, Smart Card directly with no extra gentoo package needed? 2. Wireless. My current home router/wireless-access-point (linksys WRT54G) supports 10/100 wired and 802.11bg wireless. I have no problems with this device or our home network, but I could upgrade to a 1-gigabit version if deemed important. Currently I must install net-wireless/broadcom-sta. This has caused no problems to date, but a wireless chip supported directly by linux would be preferable. I would appreciate help choosing among the following dell options (the prices are about the same). a. Intel Tri Band Wireless-AC 17265 802.11AC Wi-Fi + Wi-Gig + BT 4.0 LE Wireless Card b. Dell Wireless 1707 802.11n Single Band Wi-Fi + BT 4.0LE Wireless Card c. Dell Wireless 1560 (802.11ac 2x2, WiFi BT) d. Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 802.11AC Wi-Fi + BT 4.0 LE Wireless Card (2X2) 3. Screen I am only considering 1920x1080 (best available) with a camera. a. Touch is available for $160. Are touch screens supported on gentoo/gnome? b. Some screens (including touch) are WiGig capable. This requires option 2a above (Tri Band Wireless-AC). Is WiGig valuable and is it easy to administer? Thanks in advance, allan Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now. However there's no swipe capability. I've read someone who did it but that was just one person and couldn't figure out how he did it. I think they used KDE's Plasma.
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:35:32 +0200, David Haller wrote: You do know that only the desktop profiles include cups as a default USE flag? The one I recommended does not. Try compiling icedtea, libreoffice, scribus and whatnot without pulling in cups, no matter the use-flags. And sabotaging the ebuild and buildsystem to not use cups leads to failed builds, BT,TriedThat :(( The OP wanted to set up a snappier system. Java and LibreOffice are not the first programs that spring to mind when I think snappier... Why does a GUI (a USER INTERFACE Toolkit fer f*** sake! Not a Printer Interface!) _ALWAYS_ be able to print (if I interpret the AWT right)? That's just dumb. No argument there. [1] speaking of that: I noticed, that when I bork[2] an ebuild in /usr/local/portage, it gets silently(!) ignored and the one from /usr/portage is used. The only indication is the flag on the package e.g. ::gentoo vs. ::local. Only once I move the gentoo ebuilds into e.g. the .attic subfolder, emerge tells me what's actually wrong with my ::local ebuild in /usr/local/portage. Have I overlooked an option of emerge or is that a bug? ebuild /usr/local/portage/cat/pkg/pkg-x.y.ebuild merge will use the specific ebuild you give it. -- Neil Bothwick Got kleptomania? Be sure to take something for it. pgpIWvnAOgb58.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:31 AM, David Haller gen...@dhaller.de wrote: Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 23/06/2015 09:27, Ran Shalit wrote: I am a beginner with Gentoo. I have followed the instruction for the installation, and tried to see that I really understand all of them. There is the command: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Which I'm not sure I really understand. [..] 2. Another thing I've noticed is that some tutorial add to the above also bind to sys folder , and other do not include it. mount -o bind /sys /mnt/gentoo/sys The handbook says to do it, and it makes sense to do it. Any tutorial that doesn't say it, is wrong/outdated or it's author doesn't understand. If the official handbook says to do it, and some other post from Joe Random Blogger says not to, which one you gonna believe? Therefore I would like to ask if it is really required ? Yes ACK. There's more actually. Currently, I run Gentoo mostly in a chroot from my old system[1], and also updated it that way[2]. Currently, I use this script to chroot into gentoo: /root/bin/chrooter #!/bin/bash root=$1 shift ### those test -e check for files/subdirs to not bind-remount if I ### chroot in more than one xterm, /dev/shm/dh is just a subdir I ### create via a custom boot-script on the old system, you'll have to ### revert to grepping /proc/mounts for ${root}/dev/shm if your ### /dev/shm is empty, and mind you: I use /Gentoo as $root, but it ### appears as /root_ssd2 in /proc/mounts! test -e ${root}/proc/kcore || mount --bind /proc/ ${root}/proc test -e ${root}/sys/block || mount --bind /sys/ ${root}/sys test -e ${root}/dev/zero || mount --bind /dev/ ${root}/dev test -e ${root}/dev/shm/dh || mount --bind /dev/shm ${root}/dev/shm test -e ${root}/dev/pts/0 || mount --bind /dev/pts/ ${root}/dev/pts ### convenient way to mount further stuff outside the chroot (with the ### appropriate fstab entries). Ran, you should just ignore these lines for d in $@; do grep -q $d /proc/mounts || mount $d done ### adjust the environment (old system still uses iso8859-15) export LANG=en_US.utf8 unset LC_CTYPE ### finally do the chroot cd $root chroot $root So, basically, I bind-mount the usual /proc, /sys, /dev plus /dev/shm and /dev/pts. IIRC compiling some stuff barfed when /dev/shm was not available (icedtea?) and /dev/pts gives proper terminals (cf. output of 'tty'). HTH have fun, -dnh [1] have not migrated/tested my much used programs under gentoo yet and too much to do, but most stuff runs from the chroot (even X stuff once I copied my ~/.Xauthority :) [2] from a 2010 install not touched since then! Had to use the unpacked stage3 a couple of times setting PATH/LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the stage3 directory (due to emerge/glibc stuff), I definitely do _NOT_ recommend this ;) Was fun though and I learned a lot about the inner workings of emerge/gentoo :) -- No, it's a small country on the South American Ivory Coast, just to the left of the Caucasus, with penguin wool and yucca meat as primary exports. -- H. Ekker on the question if Austria is in Europe Ok what was the point of you posting all this?? Are you trying to confuse the OP who is new to Gentoo? Or just trying to show off that you use Gentoo in a non-practical way foreign to the average user? If you're going to add such non-sense as a reply that doesn't contribute to really helping someone new to how this all works, best be adding explanations of what all your mess is doing and means.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT} Intel D2700 processor + NM10 chipset - how to kernel config?
Hi again. I've found something, it looks like Intel had outsourced the video graphics part of this family of processors to Imagination Technologies, using their PowerVR technology. Besides this, there are recent posts in a few forums that talks about an open source driver, on the way. In Intel's website, I could only find a 32-bit driver, and the hint that it was extracted from an older SDK. Meanwhile: http://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/graphics-sdk/ I guess that inside the SDK package there might be its driver also, as suggested by Intel, going to try it right now. Best regards, Francisco 2015-06-23 8:40 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Hi, I have bought a cheap mini ITX board with an embedded Intel D2700 processor and NM10 chipset, and the kernel I have built a few months ago doesn't even allow text mode console - meanwhile, among other things, I'm trying to find and strip out any frame buffer entries in the kernel configuration, so that at least a plain text console might be visible. Also meanwhile, a live CD (kubuntu) managed to get a VGA KDE running (no pure text mode console), but only using a large screen monitor, and exclusively using HDMI port (the same monitor did not work on VGA, and the board does not support DVI), so that at least I could check the full specification of the processor (`cat /proc/cpuinfo`) and all of the peripherals (`lspci -k`), so that I could build a better suited kernel. Any specifics on your minds about this hardware? Thanks! Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: purchasing a dell laptop
On Sun, Jun 21 2015, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Allan Gottlieb writes: The hardest decision is size vs performance, but I know you can't help Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps I was unclear. I simply meant that clearly higher performance is better and so is a smaller/lighter laptop. The trade-off seems to be a matter for personal preference. 1. Graphics. I can afford a high-end graphics co-processor, but prefer the software/administrative simplicity of intel graphics. I do not play high speed games or otherwise run graphics intensive applications. Am I correct in believing that Linux (the kernel) supports (the dell option) Intel Core i7-5600U Processor, UMA graphics, Smart Card directly with no extra gentoo package needed? Cuda on nvidia is well seasoned, but expensive. Gentoo distros such as Pentoo, use cuda for smokin fast passwd cracking. Many/most apps will benefit, in the near future, with the deployment of GCC-5.x as RDMA via gcc% will allow for using that smoking GPU (a simd processor) and the DDR5 ram as if it was part of the CPU/ram resources. If you read up on all the advances with GCC 5 you will see most gpu (amd, Intel etc) will/should be supported. How long for stabilization, is unknown, at this time. But for very few dollars it's the biggest thing to hit hardware, since the FPU was integrated onto the same die, imho. YMMV. Check whatever GPU you select for the amount of its own (discrete) DDR5 memory on the GPU (card). So on the whole, my experience with higher-end Dell is that hardware is pretty much well-supported across the boards with very few gotchas. The only two exceptions would be wifi cards (cheap to fix) and maybe GPU co-processor (if you are unlucky to get an unsupported cutting edge one and need to wait a bit for Linux support to catch up). I'd check around on the precise details of the GPU before purchase. Some GPU use the general system ram, and that is a severe (buss-bandwidth) bottleneck that really dampens performance on many softwares. The looming gcc-5 is a game changer on using video resources, as general system resources... I doubt that gcc 5 (or 6) will extract much parallelism that Cuda can exploit for my primary use cases: compiling (largely gentoo) sources and running emacs. I have learned that the high end graphic coprocessors (or GPUs as they are now called) carry a significant administrative overhead, at least for gentoo. Thanks for responding, allan
[gentoo-user] Re: necessary use flgas
David Haller gentoo at dhaller.de writes: You can also start USE with -* in make.conf to turn everything off then set your own choices. This is the ideal setup for those who prefer to spend more time fixing their computer than using it. Huh? There is an entire universe of embedded devices out there. Vendors refer to this as the 'internet of things', for commercialization and mindshare purposes. It is actually just embedded devices, with tcp/ip/udp... So there are trillions of reasons for gentoo folks to pursue minimization all the way down to a stripped (optimized) linux kernel to the point of running embedded linux. Just take a look at Linaro. Hey, I got no printer, had others print about 5 pages for me in ~10 years. Why would I want cups? You do know that only the desktop profiles include cups as a default USE flag? The one I recommended does not. Try compiling icedtea, libreoffice, scribus and whatnot without pulling in cups, no matter the use-flags. And sabotaging the ebuild and buildsystem to not use cups leads to failed builds, BT,TriedThat :(( One of the (I guess not so obvious) purposes of my recent thread on profiles is for the community to discuss profiles that are less than the default profile for a given arch. We should be able to readily move up (from an embedded) and down (from a default profile), on each and every arch, with just the minimal flags, configs and such. Default is not even close to minimal. I'm just surprised (mildly disappointed :: but not really) that one of our embedded devs has not already championed this issue. David is just pointing out yet another reason for a different minimization need, but still in-line with what I outlined. I just think that the gentoo community should not have to go it individually alone when such minimizations are desired. Beside just as gentoo teaches one the basics of linux, so do does one learn about hardware issues, when you run an embedded system on a given platform. However, I do understand that *everyone with any sort of embedded expertise* is now mostly focused on the possibilities with the new arm64 SoCs about to appear on the market. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:45:58 +0200, David Haller wrote: You can also start USE with -* in make.conf to turn everything off then set your own choices. This is the ideal setup for those who prefer to spend more time fixing their computer than using it. Hey, I got no printer, had others print about 5 pages for me in ~10 years. Why would I want cups? You do know that only the desktop profiles include cups as a default USE flag? The one I recommended does not. Try compiling icedtea, libreoffice, scribus and whatnot without pulling in cups, no matter the use-flags. And sabotaging the ebuild and buildsystem to not use cups leads to failed builds, BT,TriedThat :(( ATM, I just juggle it around. Install cups/cups-filter/ghostscript with cups-flag, build icedtea/libreoffice/scribus, remove cups/cups-filter, rebuild ghostscript without cups and ignore any dependency errors on cups ;-P I do not care one bit about printing not working, as long as the programs run. Speaking of that, is there a gentoo-way, to link _some_ specific libs (cups) statically to a program that won't run without it? I don't care about a 'emerge cups/build program and link statically to cups/unmerge cups' cycle. Oh, yes, I did search on gentoo.org and generally, apparently, icedtea just won't build without cups. icedtea-bin also yammers for cups: !!! existing preserved libs: package: net-print/cups-2.0.2-r1 * - /usr/lib64/libcups.so.2 * used by /opt/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3/jre/lib/amd64/headless/libmawt.so (dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3) * used by /opt/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so (dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3) * used by /usr/bin/scribus (app-office/scribus-1.5.0-r1) * used by 2 other files As long as programs run, I'll get the big stick ;) Scribus seems to work. Still gotta test the Java stuff ... Moving stuff to a subfolder like .attic works nicely though in such cases, also inside */portage/*[1] for ebuilds ;) All this is not a problem with gentoo, it's a problem with upstream. Why does a GUI (a USER INTERFACE Toolkit fer f*** sake! Not a Printer Interface!) _ALWAYS_ be able to print (if I interpret the AWT right)? That's just dumb. Oh well, not your problem, but I fear the patch to remove the cups dep would be large and tedious at best to maintain which is why the icedtea maintainers gave up on it, as far as I've found. *sigh* Anyway, I still got some questions about JDKs on gentoo, but that's for another day and another thread. BTW: I might sound like an ass demanding stuff, it's just that I'm a old-time (15+ years) of roll-your-own-package guy, just not really on gentoo thus far. Actually, systemd beyond an init was the point where I said to myself: no way. I've been reading this list for quite a while now (a bit in 2010, then very little, and now quite a lot), and I've already got e.g. you and Neil (just from today) on my like list, so to speak, always helpful, patient ... Been doing that kind of support elsewhere for a long time too, so I much appreciate you doing it here and help me with pointers. Sorry, I'm having such a go at you, feel free to point me to documentation (even vaguely, just a good search word), to another thread etc. pp. I admit, I haven't searched for [1][2], but the other stuff I did at least a site search on gentoo.org. Thanks, -dnh PS: I hope I'll soon get into the roll and co-maintain that odd package here or there ;) I've been maintaining packages elsewhere, and ebuild stuff looks quite straightforward, I'm just still running into details a bit too often for my taste. [1] speaking of that: I noticed, that when I bork[2] an ebuild in /usr/local/portage, it gets silently(!) ignored and the one from /usr/portage is used. The only indication is the flag on the package e.g. ::gentoo vs. ::local. Only once I move the gentoo ebuilds into e.g. the .attic subfolder, emerge tells me what's actually wrong with my ::local ebuild in /usr/local/portage. Have I overlooked an option of emerge or is that a bug? [2] trivial stuff. Using 'foo? ( =libfoo-1.2.3 )' without adding foo to IUSE, or missing the () around the dep after the useflag... That's those I run into most often so far ;) And emerge even tells you about it once you disable the ::gentoo main portage ;) -- Getting a penguin to pee on demand is _messy_. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop
On Sun, Jun 21 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 21/06/2015 21:16, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am seriously thinking of updating my dell 6430s laptop purchased 3 years ago. NYU has an arrangement with dell so that is the only maker I am considering. This machine will be essentially gentoo only (I configure my computers to dual boot some version of windows for ease in dealing with dell support). The hardest decision is size vs performance, but I know you can't help with that. I have pretty much decided on the dell 7450. My questions concern three options: Graphics, Wireless, Screen. But would appreciate any other advice you have. I've used nothing bur Dell laptops for 10 years (currently on #5), and I've yet to run into any hardware support issues. Same here (but 20+ years). However, some friends and my children did have problems. I believe the difference is NYU buys many dells, whereas the friends/children were individual purchasers. I will definitely get * 16GB ram (2 x 8GB) * 512GB solid state disk * most powerful CPU compatible with the options chosen 1. Graphics. I can afford a high-end graphics co-processor, but prefer the software/administrative simplicity of intel graphics. Am I correct in believing that Linux (the kernel) supports (the dell option) Intel Core i7-5600U Processor, UMA graphics, Smart Card directly with no extra gentoo package needed? All intel cards I've ever seen are supported. Good. I will get the Core i7-5600U 2. Wireless. I would appreciate help choosing among the following dell options (the prices are about the same). a. Intel Tri Band Wireless-AC 17265 802.11AC Wi-Fi + Wi-Gig + BT 4.0 LE Wireless Card b. Dell Wireless 1707 802.11n Single Band Wi-Fi + BT 4.0LE Wireless Card c. Dell Wireless 1560 (802.11ac 2x2, WiFi BT) d. Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 802.11AC Wi-Fi + BT 4.0 LE Wireless Card (2X2) Intel wifi cards OTH, seem to Just Work. I recommend you go with an intel card, or swap it out later (they are fairly cheap). OK. I guess I will choose a. over d. above for the (stupid/naive) reason that tri band is better than dual band. 3. Screen I am only considering 1920x1080 (best available) with a camera. a. Are touch screens supported on gentoo/gnome? No idea, never used one. b. Is WiGig valuable and is it easy to administer? Never heard of it :-) OK. I will (shudder) ask dell which 1920x1080 w/ camera screen to get. So on the whole, my experience with higher-end Dell is that hardware is pretty much well-supported across the boards with very few gotchas. The only two exceptions would be wifi cards (cheap to fix) and maybe GPU co-processor (if you are unlucky to get an unsupported cutting edge one and need to wait a bit for Linux support to catch up). I've had similar experiences but very much appreciate the confirmation and your comments. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop
On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: Sent from my iPhone Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now. However there's no swipe capability. I've read someone who did it but that was just one person and couldn't figure out how he did it. I think they used KDE's Plasma. Thanks. I use gnome and would make little use of the touch screen capability if it were available. As a result I decided against it for this purchase since it appears the admin overhead would exceed the very modest use I would make of it. Hopefully in 3 years, when I buy my next laptop it will be well supported and just works in gnome. thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: Sent from my iPhone That figures. On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:31 AM, David Haller gen...@dhaller.de wrote: [..] /root/bin/chrooter [..] ### convenient way to mount further stuff outside the chroot (with the ### appropriate fstab entries). Ran, you should just ignore these lines [..] Ok what was the point of you posting all this?? Are you trying to confuse the OP who is new to Gentoo? Or just trying to show off that you use Gentoo in a non-practical way foreign to the average user? I showed how *I* did a ton of stuff chrooted and clearly wrote that was how just I did it, and that /dev/shm and /dev/pts might be needed and how I wrapped all that up into one convenient command. And, do you think I have that Ran, ... comment in my actual script? My real script has not _one_ comment actually! So, you proved, you have not actually read what I mailed. If you're going to add such non-sense as a reply that doesn't contribute to really helping someone new to how this all works, best be adding explanations of what all your mess is doing and means. What is useful or helpful to the OP, or any other (but you), what contributes, is not for you to decide! So just shut it if you've nothing to contribute, will ya? And effing READ what is written. My explanations are there! And the OP is always welcome to ask for more (unless explicitly told otherwise)! That's what this list is for or is it? -dnh, as a newbie to this list, reigning himself in -- If a 'train station' is where a train stops, what's a 'workstation'?
Re: [gentoo-user] necessary use flgas
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:35:32 +0200, David Haller wrote: You do know that only the desktop profiles include cups as a default USE flag? The one I recommended does not. Try compiling icedtea, libreoffice, scribus and whatnot without pulling in cups, no matter the use-flags. And sabotaging the ebuild and buildsystem to not use cups leads to failed builds, BT,TriedThat :(( The OP wanted to set up a snappier system. Java and LibreOffice are not the first programs that spring to mind when I think snappier... Well, I use LaTeX anyway for office, but one needs stuff that mom is used to, so one can talk her through stuff, eh? And Java? There's e.g. tvbrowser and MediathekView. No need to talk about snappy but I digressed from the OP anyway already. I just happily jumped on the topic of leaving stuff out that one doesn't need. And generally stuff you don't have installed cannot be attacked, esp. such ubiquitously used stuff as cups (used by MacOS/iOS too), is an important attack vector less installed. Actually: mom uses libreoffice-calc to edit a .csv file, that is then fed to a perl-script by me (via a couple of links on the XFCE/formerly WinXP Desktop (via a .cmd batch) calling it differently), that generates a LaTeX file using labels.sty that is fed to pdflatex and spits out a PDF to be printed on labels, and even starting a pdf-viewer to check it before printing ;) Worked just like a charm for, ah, about 7+ years without any maintanece required, but recentenly, mom must've borked up the charset on saving multiply, probably due to changed defaults in libreoffice, looked like double encoded utf8, but was borked even beyond that. Manually fixing it turned out to be the least work. *Gah*. As mom wanted to weed out outdated stuff anyway, she did it, but we talked about it and I'd had done it. Except from that, mom writes her letters and stuff with -writer, and has been doing so since 199x (then with StarOffice). Why does a GUI (a USER INTERFACE Toolkit fer f*** sake! Not a Printer Interface!) _ALWAYS_ be able to print (if I interpret the AWT right)? That's just dumb. No argument there. *MEH* :) Yeah, there's a couple of dumb deps by upstream, that are not configurable and not even easily patched out (I think I have one where I could patch, but usually, it's too hardwired in, so to speak). Makes you want to grab a fish (fresh from Lutetia), and slap the culprit around the head with it ... And boy! Are we in for something getting systemd hardwired as a dep ... *cringe* [1] speaking of that: I noticed, that when I bork[2] an ebuild in /usr/local/portage, it gets silently(!) ignored and the one from /usr/portage is used. The only indication is the flag on the package e.g. ::gentoo vs. ::local. Only once I move the gentoo ebuilds into e.g. the .attic subfolder, emerge tells me what's actually wrong with my ::local ebuild in /usr/local/portage. Have I overlooked an option of emerge or is that a bug? ebuild /usr/local/portage/cat/pkg/pkg-x.y.ebuild merge will use the specific ebuild you give it. Got to alias/script that! But it is a clumsy workaround. As your local overlay (or any with a higher precedence) should override the base, emerge should at least tell you about the problem with the overlay, and then e.g. ask to emerge the base (/usr/portage), or abort. How about it? I consider it a bug (unless I and Neil overlooked a switch to emerge, and even then, I'd be for a different default of that, as hey, if I do an overlay, I want to be told if I borked anything there, not just almost quietly ignored, but anyways not told the actual error, until I remove the /usr/portage version (again: missed option to emerge?)) @all: What's your take on this? Have I (and Neil?) missed an option? or has emerge a sort of a bug? -dnh, who has not yet ever looked at emerge code, but guessing it should not be much of a problem emitting the errors in the overlay and some simple handling afterwards ;) -- vi, pr.n. A computer program designed to stress-test the use of modal bleeping.
Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome and audio capture
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:26:31 -0500, Dale wrote: Take from that what you will. Note, the issues are for chromium and not for Google Chrome, shouldn't make a difference for what you want to know though. Thanks. That was what I was looking for. I guess they did do this then. This may be the first time I checked into a story from that site and it be true. It seems google did sort of sneak some code in there. o_O There is a now a USE flag to specifically enable this. It defaults to disabled but if you previously emerged chromium before the flag as added, you will still have it. Using --newuse will cause a world update to re-emerge chromium, but if you use --changed-use it doesn't, so re-emerge chromium if you want to get rid of this. I use Seamonkey and Firefox. I tried that thing once and I didn't like it. I just saw this posted on a social site I'm on and the site the article is on sometimes has good stories but a lot of the time, they are questionable at least. I just wanted to see if it was somewhat accurate before folks started going all goofy over it. It seems each distro is patching a fix for this. I don't know when people are going to learn that enabling something like this by default and not mentioning it to the users is going to create a dust storm. A lot of people really watch for things like this and they get upset when it happens. This is why I don't have a microphone or camera on my puter and never have. I most likely, never will. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: necessary use flgas
Hello, On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, James wrote: David Haller gentoo at dhaller.de writes: [..] Try compiling icedtea, libreoffice, scribus and whatnot without pulling in cups, no matter the use-flags. And sabotaging the ebuild and buildsystem to not use cups leads to failed builds, BT,TriedThat :(( [..] David is just pointing out yet another reason for a different minimization need, but still in-line with what I outlined. I just think that the gentoo community should not have to go it individually alone when such minimizations are desired. Yeah, that's an extra aspect for the same want: What's some random server or a RasPi or whatnot, needing one Java app, need Cups for? Or some other lib that's superfluous? Sad thing is, upstream is making it extra hard. Upstream deps often are weird (to choose a harmless expression) and to often extremely hard to patch out, if at all.[0] -dnh PS: I'm not sure how many David's are here, if in doubt, refer to me as 'dnh', as I'm used to it anyways, ok? Oh, darn it, I've not adjusted my mail yet. My fault. [0] I know I repeat myself today, but, a fresh fish from Lutetia, slapped around the head of the responsible ... would at times be quite satisfactory :) -- / panic(Fod fight!); \ \ -- /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aha1542.c /
Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop
On 06/23/2015 10:50 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: Sent from my iPhone Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now. However there's no swipe capability. I've read someone who did it but that was just one person and couldn't figure out how he did it. I think they used KDE's Plasma. Thanks. I use gnome and would make little use of the touch screen capability if it were available. As a result I decided against it for this purchase since it appears the admin overhead would exceed the very modest use I would make of it. Hopefully in 3 years, when I buy my next laptop it will be well supported and just works in gnome. thanks again, allan I discovered another mark against touchscreens - I tried to repair a friend's laptop with a touch screen (not a Dell) and found that the supply chain for parts for repair is slim to none. They do break and in a couple years you may not be able to find a digitizer (or if you do you can't get it separate from the laptop screen assembly - camera, screen, digitizer). And if you are really unlucky you'll find that the connectors are different from the non-touch to the touch models so swapping in a plain screen won't work. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/06/2015 09:27, Ran Shalit wrote: Hello, I am a beginner with Gentoo. I have followed the instruction for the installation, and tried to see that I really understand all of them. There is the command: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Which I'm not sure I really understand. It's a bind mount, not a regular mount. A regular mount takes a volume/block device/whatever and mounts it somewhere. A bind mount makes a copied mount that is already present on your system and makes it also available somewhere else. You do not want /dev/ and /sys mounted twice - they are core system directories and bad things can happen if you mount them twice then change one of them. You get sync issues for one thing. Much much easier to use bind mounts and potential problems just go away Err... that's not actually true. You can mount as many instances of devtmpfs as you like; they all point to the same memory and contain the same files. Add a file to one and it will appear in all other instances. This is a distinction between tmpfs and devtmpfs. sysfs is even more straightforward; the kernel maintains all of the files in sysfs, so mounting it multiple times is no issue at all.
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
test -e ${root}/dev/zero || mount --bind /dev/ ${root}/dev test -e ${root}/dev/shm/dh || mount --bind /dev/shm ${root}/dev/shm test -e ${root}/dev/pts/0 || mount --bind /dev/pts/ ${root}/dev/pts no need to separately mount shm and pts, just use --rbind, as the install doc recommends https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base
Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop
On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Daniel Frey wrote: On 06/23/2015 10:50 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: Sent from my iPhone Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now. However there's no swipe capability. I've read someone who did it but that was just one person and couldn't figure out how he did it. I think they used KDE's Plasma. Thanks. I use gnome and would make little use of the touch screen capability if it were available. As a result I decided against it for this purchase since it appears the admin overhead would exceed the very modest use I would make of it. Hopefully in 3 years, when I buy my next laptop it will be well supported and just works in gnome. thanks again, allan I discovered another mark against touchscreens - I tried to repair a friend's laptop with a touch screen (not a Dell) and found that the supply chain for parts for repair is slim to none. They do break and in a couple years you may not be able to find a digitizer (or if you do you can't get it separate from the laptop screen assembly - camera, screen, digitizer). And if you are really unlucky you'll find that the connectors are different from the non-touch to the touch models so swapping in a plain screen won't work. Dan Thanks. I will wait until next cycle for a touchscreen. allan
[gentoo-user] repos.conf
Hello, So I nuked the /var/lib/layman/make.conf file. I have a list of sites (repos) I want to keep. Noodling around I figured out that I cannot use laymen to add git repos. bummer. So is there a tool/interface where I type something like 'layman -a java' and it writes out the file to /etc/portage/repos.conf/new.conf Layman -S pucked. So after following all the guides I must have missed something. Take java: * Warnings: * -- * The source of the overlay java seems to have changed. * You currently sync from * * git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java.git * * while the remote lists report * * 1. git://anongit.gentoo.org/proj/java.git * 2. git+ssh://g...@git.gentoo.org/proj/java.git * 3. https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/proj/java.git * * as correct locations. * Please consider removing and re-adding the overlay. I tried this (layman -d java; layman -a java) but it just does the ond /var/lib/layman/ entry. No tool to select a git repo and make the new.conf file in /etc/portage/resos.conf/ dir? I'd prefer a default file created that I just then edit, or one big repo.conf file for overlays (formerly overlays not gits) for all the repos I want to add. Maybe a few examples of /etc/portage/repos.conf to look at? Note the gentoo and local is fine. I keep /usr/local/portage for my stuff alone, so I guess I can just use the old layman dir stucture (/var/lib/layman) for my collection of exteranal repos? maybe something like: /var/lib/repos/devs/ultrabug/ and /var/lib/repos/sot/unknown-hacker/ I really like to keep the gentoo dev repos separate for the at large gentoo repos now using git. I probably should not use this old /var/lib/layman/ sturcture for the new git repos..? Will those layman svn sites be going away? or just the ones run by gentoo-devs? Suggests on a sane schema for all of this is most welcome. (how are other organizing/labeling ad wide collect of repos, gentoo dev repos and their own (code)fiefdom? naming and location strategies are most welcome. Lacking organization on repos, James
Re: [gentoo-user] resizing multiple images with adding a frame as needed
On Wednesday 24 Jun 2015 01:02:35 waben...@gmail.com wrote: hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Hi, suppose I have a number of images that need to be displayed side by side in a nice layout. The images are of different sizes and have different aspect ratios. To fit the images into the layout, I can scale the images either by height or width or by percantage, and they will look messy in the layout because I need to keep their aspect ratio when scaling them. So what I need to do is put a frame around each image just as needed when scaling it so that I will end up with all the images having the same size while maintaining their aspect ratio. I guess 'convert' (from imagemagick) or 'ffmpeg' can do this, yet I couldn't find out how. (In this particular case, I would set a default size to scale all images to rather than doing something more complicated like examine all images in advance to compute a good size to use from the largest or smallest one or from their average dimensions.) Any ideas how to do this? Look here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1787356/use-imagemagick-to-place-an-imag e-inside-a-larger-canvas You must add a resize paremeter as this example is only for placing an image inside a larger canvas. :-) You can easily find more examples in the Internet. -- Regards wabe Give this a spin, or modify accordingly to suit your needs: #!/bin/bash for i in *.JPG; do name=${i%.JPG} convert -resize 900x675 ${i} ${name}_s.jpg done -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
On 23/06/2015 09:27, Ran Shalit wrote: Hello, I am a beginner with Gentoo. I have followed the instruction for the installation, and tried to see that I really understand all of them. There is the command: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Which I'm not sure I really understand. It's a bind mount, not a regular mount. A regular mount takes a volume/block device/whatever and mounts it somewhere. A bind mount makes a copied mount that is already present on your system and makes it also available somewhere else. You do not want /dev/ and /sys mounted twice - they are core system directories and bad things can happen if you mount them twice then change one of them. You get sync issues for one thing. Much much easier to use bind mounts and potential problems just go away 2. Another thing I've noticed is that some tutorial add to the above also bind to sys folder , and other do not include it. mount -o bind /sys /mnt/gentoo/sys The handbook says to do it, and it makes sense to do it. Any tutorial that doesn't say it, is wrong/outdated or it's author doesn't understand. If the official handbook says to do it, and some other post from Joe Random Blogger says not to, which one you gonna believe? Therefore I would like to ask if it is really required ? Yes Thank you, Ran -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome and audio capture
On 15-06-23 at 03:06, Dale wrote: Howdy, Is this for real? I question the source and figure with all the Linux geeks we have here, someone here would know about this story and if it is real or not. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/got-chrome-google-just-silently-downloaded-this-onto-your-computer-3173880.html https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909 https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/TEMP-0786909-A21526 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435 Take from that what you will. Note, the issues are for chromium and not for Google Chrome, shouldn't make a difference for what you want to know though. -- Simon Thelen
Re: [gentoo-user] PPPoE ADSL modem choice
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:08:03 +0100, Mick wrote: That's one of the benefits of using OpenWRT/DD-WRT. You can ask on the forums or search the Wiki to see what features are available - or even RTF(online)M. As long as you pick a fully supported device, all the features of either OS should be available. DD-WRT are supporting many Asus routers, so the question to the forums/ML is if their firmware supports yours. I couldn't see it here, but if the chipset is the same with say RT-N13U (Ralink) then it could do the trick: https://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database You can also search the forums. My router didn't appear in the database but a search showed up a beta firmware for it that has worked flawlessly. -- Neil Bothwick How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? pgpA5ZjmIyrPM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
Hello, I am a beginner with Gentoo. I have followed the instruction for the installation, and tried to see that I really understand all of them. There is the command: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Which I'm not sure I really understand. 1. What is the difference between doing thses mount to just copy the contents of /dev into /mnt/gentoo/dev? 2. Another thing I've noticed is that some tutorial add to the above also bind to sys folder , and other do not include it. mount -o bind /sys /mnt/gentoo/sys Therefore I would like to ask if it is really required ? Thank you, Ran
[gentoo-user] Google Chrome and audio capture
Howdy, Is this for real? I question the source and figure with all the Linux geeks we have here, someone here would know about this story and if it is real or not. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/got-chrome-google-just-silently-downloaded-this-onto-your-computer-3173880.html Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] PPPoE ADSL modem choice
On Tuesday 23 Jun 2015 07:30:22 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:08:03 +0100, Mick wrote: That's one of the benefits of using OpenWRT/DD-WRT. You can ask on the forums or search the Wiki to see what features are available - or even RTF(online)M. As long as you pick a fully supported device, all the features of either OS should be available. DD-WRT are supporting many Asus routers, so the question to the forums/ML is if their firmware supports yours. I couldn't see it here, but if the chipset is the same with say RT-N13U (Ralink) then it could do the trick: https://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database You can also search the forums. My router didn't appear in the database but a search showed up a beta firmware for it that has worked flawlessly. OK. Thanks to all who've replied. -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] [OT} Intel D2700 processor + NM10 chipset - how to kernel config?
Hi, I have bought a cheap mini ITX board with an embedded Intel D2700 processor and NM10 chipset, and the kernel I have built a few months ago doesn't even allow text mode console - meanwhile, among other things, I'm trying to find and strip out any frame buffer entries in the kernel configuration, so that at least a plain text console might be visible. Also meanwhile, a live CD (kubuntu) managed to get a VGA KDE running (no pure text mode console), but only using a large screen monitor, and exclusively using HDMI port (the same monitor did not work on VGA, and the board does not support DVI), so that at least I could check the full specification of the processor (`cat /proc/cpuinfo`) and all of the peripherals (`lspci -k`), so that I could build a better suited kernel. Any specifics on your minds about this hardware? Thanks! Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome and audio capture
Simon Thelen wrote: On 15-06-23 at 03:06, Dale wrote: Howdy, Is this for real? I question the source and figure with all the Linux geeks we have here, someone here would know about this story and if it is real or not. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/got-chrome-google-just-silently-downloaded-this-onto-your-computer-3173880.html https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909 https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/TEMP-0786909-A21526 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435 Take from that what you will. Note, the issues are for chromium and not for Google Chrome, shouldn't make a difference for what you want to know though. Thanks. That was what I was looking for. I guess they did do this then. This may be the first time I checked into a story from that site and it be true. It seems google did sort of sneak some code in there. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome and audio capture
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:26:31 -0500, Dale wrote: Take from that what you will. Note, the issues are for chromium and not for Google Chrome, shouldn't make a difference for what you want to know though. Thanks. That was what I was looking for. I guess they did do this then. This may be the first time I checked into a story from that site and it be true. It seems google did sort of sneak some code in there. o_O There is a now a USE flag to specifically enable this. It defaults to disabled but if you previously emerged chromium before the flag as added, you will still have it. Using --newuse will cause a world update to re-emerge chromium, but if you use --changed-use it doesn't, so re-emerge chromium if you want to get rid of this. -- Neil Bothwick Time is an illusion but never so much as when you're using a modem. pgpXGLFdjYsbx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome and audio capture
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:06:10 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Is this for real? I question the source and figure with all the Linux geeks we have here, someone here would know about this story and if it is real or not. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/got-chrome-google-just-silently-downloaded-this-onto-your-computer-3173880.html Thanks for pointing this out. Like you, I don't have mics or cameras connected to my desktops, but I do have a google tablet and I've used the Okay Google feature before, so I knew about it. But, I never thought about what I say when I have the tablet stuck in my pocket, supposedly in power-saving sleep mode. No doubt in my mind that the mic could still be listening if google wants it to be.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome and audio capture
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:26:06 -0700, walt wrote: But, I never thought about what I say when I have the tablet stuck in my pocket, supposedly in power-saving sleep mode. No doubt in my mind that the mic could still be listening if google wants it to be. I have my phone on a stand by the bed at night, as an alarm clock. Good luck to whoever tries to make sense of the noises that picks up! -- Neil Bothwick The sum of all human intelligence is constant, only the number of humans increases. pgp8gR6CH3cyV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] One Time Passwords
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@skynet.be wrote: Hi, I'd like to log into my Gentoo system from my smartphone. But I don't trust Google (Android's parents). Therefore I need a OTP solution for loggin into my Gentoo system. Can anybody recommend a solution? You'll laugh at the irony, but my /etc/pam.d/sshd: auth include system-remote-login auth required pam_google_authenticator.so accountinclude system-remote-login password include system-remote-login sessioninclude system-remote-login The Google Authenticator PAM module comes from sys-auth/google-authenticator, and accepts OTPs from the Google Authenticator app, or any other app that uses the same algorithm (which is fairly standard I believe). It is FOSS, and doesn't give Google access to anything. That one line is all it takes to block anybody not using an OTP from logging in. To actually set the key for an account there is a utility that will generate a key and give you the seed for your OTP generator. It stores a file in your home directory with the seed, which the PAM module reads. It is very simple to set up, and very effective. Note that public key authentication with sshd normally bypasses PAM and doesn't require the code - I don't know offhand if you can have both. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Haller gen...@dhaller.de wrote: ACK. There's more actually. Currently, I run Gentoo mostly in a chroot from my old system[1], and also updated it that way[2]. Currently, I use this script to chroot into gentoo: You might consider running Gentoo Prefix instead based on what you're doing. It is a bit like Gentoo in a chroot, without the chroot. I haven't played with it too recently but getting it running on another linux distro is about the easiest way to use it. Getting it running on Solaris, on the other hand, was a bit more fun. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] resizing multiple images with adding a frame as needed
hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Hi, suppose I have a number of images that need to be displayed side by side in a nice layout. The images are of different sizes and have different aspect ratios. To fit the images into the layout, I can scale the images either by height or width or by percantage, and they will look messy in the layout because I need to keep their aspect ratio when scaling them. So what I need to do is put a frame around each image just as needed when scaling it so that I will end up with all the images having the same size while maintaining their aspect ratio. I guess 'convert' (from imagemagick) or 'ffmpeg' can do this, yet I couldn't find out how. (In this particular case, I would set a default size to scale all images to rather than doing something more complicated like examine all images in advance to compute a good size to use from the largest or smallest one or from their average dimensions.) Any ideas how to do this? Look here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1787356/use-imagemagick-to-place-an-image-inside-a-larger-canvas You must add a resize paremeter as this example is only for placing an image inside a larger canvas. :-) You can easily find more examples in the Internet. -- Regards wabe