Re: [gentoo-user] lanmap ebuild

2008-12-08 Thread Justin
It is in sunrise now.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:44:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to
 anything I want to on the internet.  
 
 Its just that I can't ping the internet.

I thought you couldn't ping the rest of the LAN either?

If the only box you can ping is the router,it sounds like a router setting
somewhere. What happens if you plug the computer into a different port on
the router? Does the router have any DMZ features turned on?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Ninety-Ninety Rule Of Project Schedules - The first ninety percent of
the task takes ninety percent of the time, and the last ten percent
takes the other ninety percent of the time.


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[gentoo-user] Amarok 2 Beta: add mp3 support

2008-12-08 Thread damian
Hi,

I'm trying the beta version of amarok. The problem is that I cannot
play mp3 files. Does any of you worked out this problem?

Regards,
Damian.



[gentoo-user] Re: Amarok 2 Beta: add mp3 support

2008-12-08 Thread damian
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM, damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying the beta version of amarok. The problem is that I cannot
 play mp3 files. Does any of you worked out this problem?

 Regards,
 Damian.
Already solved. I installed kde-base/phonon-xine and then I started alsasound.



Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command

2008-12-08 Thread Supreme




I went ahead and installed gvim as Nicolas suggested. I did not have
any problems undoing changes in gvim. After further investigation I
only have this problem when I run vi. If I do vim undo works also. The
only thing I have in my home dir that's related to vi is .viminfo which
a history file. 

J.J.

smallnow wrote:

  do you have a ~/.vimrc?
Try
:map u
and see if there is a mapping.

- Ian

Supreme wrote:
  
  
Thanks for your reply,

I dont have gvim installed. I'll install it and see if I get the same error.

  
  

  







Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command - don't do top posting

2008-12-08 Thread KH
Supreme schrieb:
 I went ahead and installed gvim as Nicolas suggested. I did not have
 any problems undoing changes in gvim. After further investigation I
 only have this problem when I run vi. If I do vim undo works also. The
 only thing I have in my home dir that's related to vi is .viminfo
 which a history file.

 J.J.

 smallnow wrote:
 do you have a ~/.vimrc?
 Try
 :map u
 and see if there is a mapping.

 - Ian

 Supreme wrote:
   
 Thanks for your reply,

 I dont have gvim installed. I'll install it and see if I get the same error.
 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command

2008-12-08 Thread Supreme




I solve the problem by creating a symbolic link from vim to vi. For
some reason vi symbolic link was pointed to //bin/busybox. Now
everything is working properly.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ ls -lash vi*
 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 27 20:12 vi - //bin/busybox
 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 27 20:12 view - //bin/busybox
4.0K -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.3K Nov 29 12:09 vigra-config
2.5M -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.5M Nov 30 03:08 vim
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Nov 30 03:08 vimdiff - vim

Thanks for your help. 

J.J. 

Supreme wrote:

  
  
I went ahead and installed gvim as Nicolas suggested. I did not have
any problems undoing changes in gvim. After further investigation I
only have this problem when I run vi. If I do vim undo works also. The
only thing I have in my home dir that's related to vi is .viminfo which
a history file. 
  
J.J.
  
smallnow wrote:
  
do you have a ~/.vimrc?
Try
:map u
and see if there is a mapping.

- Ian

Supreme wrote:
  

  Thanks for your reply,

I dont have gvim installed. I'll install it and see if I get the same error.




  
  
  







Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1

2008-12-08 Thread Yannick Mortier
Here it is what you are looking for:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml

Greetings,

-- 
Currently developing a browsergame...
http://www.p-game.de
Trade - Expand - Fight



[gentoo-user] kde-4.1

2008-12-08 Thread András Csányi
Hi all!

I want to upgrade my kde from 3.5.9 to 4.1.x and I look some tutorial
or guide how I can do this.
I searched in the archive emails without results.

Thanks for the suggestions!


-- 
- -
--  Csanyi Andras  -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando
--  Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell


Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel, compiz, mplayer -fs file.avi freeze

2008-12-08 Thread Kacper Kopczyński

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:


How about you replace the = symbols by '~', such that revision
updates are also alwowed?



I'll try as soon as I fix my laptop. It survived journey across the country,
daily trips by bus... But it didn't survived my mother taking care of flowers.

...Most accidents happen at home.

--
Kacper Kopczyński


[gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread pat
Hello,

I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits are
stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.

The applications are:
- Seamoneky/Firefox
- Java
- Flash
- Audacious
- mplayer
- VirtualBox/VMware
- Qemu
- Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
- X.org/fluxbox
- system suspending

I have 4GB RAM and I know better is to compile for 64 bits, but for me is more
important stability.

Thanks a lot

 Pat



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:59 AM, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
 question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits are
 stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.

 The applications are:
 - Seamoneky/Firefox
 - Java
 - Flash
 - Audacious
 - mplayer
 - VirtualBox/VMware
 - Qemu
 - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
 - X.org/fluxbox
 - system suspending

 I have 4GB RAM and I know better is to compile for 64 bits, but for me is more
 important stability.

 Thanks a lot

 Pat

I think both 32-bit and 64-bit are very stable. I run both here. My
input would be that 32-bit Flash and Java are still more compatible
with stuff that's out there on the web and I'm generally better of on
my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine than my own 64-bit machine. don't get
me wrong - 64-bit works really, really well or I would have dropped
it, but if you build 64-bit Gentoo you want to build with multi-lib so
you can run 32-bit stuff along the way.

Anyway, I'm not the most software technical guy and I don't run much
stuff that isn't marked stable so I cannot give you a leading edge
view but if I had purchased your hardware I'd build and run 32-bit
today and leave a 20GB partition for building 64-bit later.

Good luck,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 08 Dezember 2008, pat wrote:
 Hello,

 I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
 question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits
 are stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.

 The applications are:
 - Seamoneky/Firefox
stable

 - Java
stable for years

 - Flash

32bit+nspluginwrapper works very well - crash of flash does not kill browser, 
64bit is said to be a bit more stable

 - Audacious
don't know

 - mplayer
works as good as 32bit

 - VirtualBox/VMware
virtualbox works well

 - Qemu
qemu sucks - in any version independent from 'bitness'.

 - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
they are

 - X.org/fluxbox
really no problems there.

 - system suspending
if there are problems they are independent from 32/64bit.


 I have 4GB RAM and I know better is to compile for 64 bits, but for me is
 more important stability.

if stability is more important for you, go 64bit.



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread damian
Hello,

I have a couple of problems only with proprietary software: real movie
videos and flash.

 The applications are:
 - Flash
Sometimed the nspluginviewer eats the 100% of the CPU. Most of the
time it works great, but it's quite annoying.

 - mplayer
I cannot see real movie videos. I don't have many of them (actually
just a documentary) so I don't try very hard to find a solution.

Hope that helps.



Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1

2008-12-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 08 Dezember 2008, András Csányi wrote:
 Hi all!

 I want to upgrade my kde from 3.5.9 to 4.1.x and I look some tutorial
 or guide how I can do this.
 I searched in the archive emails without results.

 Thanks for the suggestions!

set the kdeprefix useflag
emerge @kde-4.1




Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 14:59 +0100, pat wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
 question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits are
 stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.
 
 The applications are:
 - Seamoneky/Firefox
 - Java
 - Flash
 - Audacious
 - mplayer
 - VirtualBox/VMware
 - Qemu
 - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
 - X.org/fluxbox
 - system suspending

With very very few exceptions, stability shouldn't be much of an issue
for you.  It's pretty much the same source code base. What you should be
more concerned about is application availability, especially WRT:

  * if the application is closed-source is there a 64-bit version
  * have the Gentoo maintainers marked it (yet) for amd64 (stable).
Gentoo is (or at least used to be) a bit slower at marking
things amd64 just because there are (were) fewer testers.  I
think this is pretty much a non-issue nowadays.
  * if it has code optimized in assembler is there optimized
x64/compabile assembler.

We (well, I) still use the closed-source (well, binary) versions of
java.  IBM's Java at least has a 64-bit port.

Adobe just released a Linux x64 port of Flash (in Alpha).  From my
experience it's just as stable (or rather unstable) as the x86 version.

win32codecs will not work unless it's used by a 32-bit exe (You can run
32-bit apps on x64).

System suspending if largely kernel.

Anyway probably more than you wanted to know, but I don't think
stability is ever really a factor.  Linux has supported 64-bit
processors for at least 15 years (I think).  Usually the only issue
(just like running Linux on *any* non-x86 architecture) is the
availability of proprietary apps.

-a




Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1

2008-12-08 Thread András Csányi
2008/12/8 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Montag 08 Dezember 2008, András Csányi wrote:
 Hi all!

 I want to upgrade my kde from 3.5.9 to 4.1.x and I look some tutorial
 or guide how I can do this.
 I searched in the archive emails without results.

 Thanks for the suggestions!

 set the kdeprefix useflag
 emerge @kde-4.1

Thanks the informations.
The situation was little bit complicated. My system is stable and I
had to unmask portage and some other package before I started emerge
the 4.x KDE.
So the tutorial was good place to start.

-- 
- -
--  Csanyi Andras  -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando
--  Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell


Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield

smallnow wrote:

Mike Edenfield wrote:



Um, on my system, i have
/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz
/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IS8859-1.gz
notice charmaps vs charsets
the other folders all have en_US files and folders, no utf8 extensions. And my
locale stuff seems to work fine. Do you actually have those files on your
computer or did you just type them from memory and get them wrong?


I was working from memory, and yes, I meant charmaps instead of charsets 
(I've seen both names used, but it's the same data.)





Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP

 Hi all,
   OK, it appears that this has solved the problem as best I can tell
 right now. The two most consist manifestations of the problem - error
 messages when running layman and warning messages when starting k3b -
 are all gone.

   The solution in my case for anyone who might find this thread later was:

 1) Move all the locale stuff out of /etc/make.conf. I now only have
 the LINGUAS statement in there.

 2) Move all the locale stuff into /etc/env.d/02locale. I'm not
 qualified to say what the right set of statements in 02locale might
 be. I copied the ones kindly provided by smallnow. I did not set
 LC_ALL.

 3) Possibly most important run eselect env update. I've been running
 the older env-update script. I guess I did miss the memo! ;-)

   At this point the machine seems the happiest it's been in months.
 I'll of course have to watch it go through some updates over the next
 few weeks but the obvious issues seem solved.

 Good night, over and out,
 Mark


Good morning,
   Finishing the thread from last night, I think it was obvious but
for anyone reading later I did re-emerge glibc.

   OK, it turns out there may still be an issue or two. At least I'd
like to get your input on it.

   All of the issues I had recognized up through yesterday were
successfully fixed using the steps above. However when compiling
Ardour this morning I found that it was installing locale data for as
much as I can tell every language possible. Does this imply there is
still a locale issue? If I only need en_US derivatives then why are
other locale messages getting installed?

   Also, I noticed when using slocate that there are some locale
directories under X11. In the same spirit, are they there by default
or left over from something I did earlier and haven't correctly
cleaned up?

lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/X11/locale/
C iso8859-11  jamicrosoft-cp1251  zh_CN.UTF-8
am_ET.UTF-8   iso8859-13  ja.JISmicrosoft-cp1255  zh_CN.gb18030
armscii-8 iso8859-14  ja.S90microsoft-cp1256  zh_CN.gbk
compose.dir   iso8859-15  ja.SJIS   mulelao-1 zh_HK.UTF-8
el_GR.UTF-8   iso8859-2   ja.U90nokhchi-1 zh_HK.big5
en_US.UTF-8   iso8859-3   ja_JP.UTF-8   pt_BR.UTF-8   zh_HK.big5hkscs
georgian-academy  iso8859-4   kotatar-cyr zh_TW
georgian-ps   iso8859-5   ko_KR.UTF-8   th_TH zh_TW.UTF-8
ibm-cp1133iso8859-6   koi8-cth_TH.UTF-8   zh_TW.big5
iscii-dev iso8859-7   koi8-rtscii-0
isiri-3342iso8859-8   koi8-uvi_VN.tcvn
iso8859-1 iso8859-9   locale.alias  vi_VN.viscii
iso8859-10iso8859-9e  locale.dirzh_CN
lightning ~ #


Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mark Knecht wrote:


   Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories!
/usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I
want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I
think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not
charsets, like yours: (This is an AMD64 machine so maybe that's part
of the difference?)


No, those are mistakes on my part, I was working from memory, and my 
memory apparently sucks :\


The folders you should be looking at are the locales and charmaps 
directories, as you found.  Also, you may not have anything in 
/usr/share/locales for the en_US stuff, since it's the default language 
and doesn't usually need translation.


Now that I'm physically at my Gentoo desktop, here's what I have:

apollo ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

apollo ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US*
/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US

apollo ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF*
/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz

apollo ~ # locale-gen -l
en_US.UTF-8

apollo ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
GDM_LANG=en_US.UTF-8



   Before I do something stupid, can I erase all this /usr/share stuff
by hand, then re-emerge glibc, rerun locale-gen to get the right
stuff. I suspect that since I had weird settings in make.conf, now
fixed with Dale's help, that now if I re-emerge glibc maybe I'll get
the right stuff?


I wouldn't erase anything unless you're concerned about disk space.  The 
items in i18n are installed by default by glibc.  The extra items in the 
locale folder may have been installed by an ebuild that isn't LINGUAS 
aware -- those folders contain the translated user interface messages. 
Having extras around shouldn't hurt anything.




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mark Knecht wrote:


You may be correct about setting all of this in 02locale. I noticed
that the Gentoo formatting stuff for vi is treating LC_ALL and
LC_COLLATE differently than LINGUAS. The manual seems to say set
system wide stuff in 02locale and user stuff in your own account.


They are different.

LINGUAS is a build-time hint for localized programs that lists which 
languages you want translations for.  It has no effect at run-time other 
than ensuring that your selected languages are available.


The LC_* variables, and LANG, are run-time settings that tell the C 
library which locale to use.  LC_COLLATE, for example, tells vi how to 
sort things alphabetically.


Just as an aside, I see frequent warnings not to set LC_ALL because it's 
dangerous, but that seems like a vast overreaction to me.  LC_ALL is a 
global setting that overrides all of the other LC_ variables with a 
single setting.  The danger is that you cannot then individually 
override the behavior, say to use a different currency or sorting 
format, but IMO the people who need to do that are the exception, and 
would clearly know how to do it.


For a single user system with a single locale where all the LC_* 
variables have the same value anyway, setting LC_ALL to en_US and 
settings the other half-dozen LC_* variables to en_US has the same effect.




Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:59 AM, damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a couple of problems only with proprietary software: real movie
 videos and flash.

 The applications are:
 - Flash
 Sometimed the nspluginviewer eats the 100% of the CPU. Most of the
 time it works great, but it's quite annoying.

They recently released a 64-bit version of Flash plugin for Linux. I
unmerged the nspluginwrapper and unmasked the latest flash plugin and
it's working beautifully since. It hasn't crashed/frozen once.

 - mplayer
 I cannot see real movie videos. I don't have many of them (actually
 just a documentary) so I don't try very hard to find a solution.

I think all real-related stuff was removed from portage recently.
There's a thread on the gentoo forums with explanation of why and
instructions how to unmask it if you'd like to get it back.

Paul



[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:44:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to
 anything I want to on the internet.  
 
 Its just that I can't ping the internet.

 I thought you couldn't ping the rest of the LAN either?

No.  I can ping anywhere on the home lan.  Sorry if that was not
clear. 

 If the only box you can ping is the router,it sounds like a router setting
 somewhere. What happens if you plug the computer into a different port on
 the router? Does the router have any DMZ features turned on?

I can ping any box inside the lan, including the router, but even then
it still sounds like a router setting since any other lan box can ping
out to internet with no problem.  However I cannot find a router
setting that would do that.  And I have no special setting in place
that I can find.

About DMZ, yes the router has the capability to send to a DMZ but it
is disabled.

my network is simple and looks like (hope this survivs mail encoding):

  Cable modem to internet
   |
   |
 =  Netgear FVS-318 gateway  ==
  |  |   |  || 
 mch1  mch2mch3   mch4 mch5
^^
  ^
  ^
no ping to internet
From above mch1
But it can ping any of 
the other mchs including router  




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:44:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to
 anything I want to on the internet.

 Its just that I can't ping the internet.

 I thought you couldn't ping the rest of the LAN either?

 No.  I can ping anywhere on the home lan.  Sorry if that was not
 clear.

 If the only box you can ping is the router,it sounds like a router setting
 somewhere. What happens if you plug the computer into a different port on
 the router? Does the router have any DMZ features turned on?

 I can ping any box inside the lan, including the router, but even then
 it still sounds like a router setting since any other lan box can ping
 out to internet with no problem.  However I cannot find a router
 setting that would do that.  And I have no special setting in place
 that I can find.

 About DMZ, yes the router has the capability to send to a DMZ but it
 is disabled.

 my network is simple and looks like (hope this survivs mail encoding):

  Cable modem to internet
   |
   |
  =  Netgear FVS-318 gateway  ==
  |  |   |  ||
  mch1  mch2mch3   mch4 mch5
 ^^
  ^
  ^
 no ping to internet
 From above mch1
 But it can ping any of
 the other mchs including router


I agree with Neil. It sounds like a router issue. Possibly a DMZ
setting in the router is the same as the IP of the machine that
doesn't work correctly so the ping gets to the DMZ and the response is
sent out to the Internet instead of back inside?

If the 5 internal machines have consecutive addresses, have you tried
changing the IP address of the machine that doesn't work to something
above #5? Maybe disconnect one of the other machines and give the
problem box that IP address?

I don't think you stated how the problem box got its address. Is it
fixed IP or something provided by the router?

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 08 December 2008 13:59:00 pat wrote:

 I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
 question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits
 are stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.

I too have a laptop with that processor (it's a Thinkpad T61), and I 
installed my system from a 64-bit minimal CD with the standard 
make.profile:

$ ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2008-05-27 
10:22 /etc/make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0

I can't tell you about Flash, but everything else runs flawlessly - even 
wireless networking.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread damian
 They recently released a 64-bit version of Flash plugin for Linux. I
 unmerged the nspluginwrapper and unmasked the latest flash plugin and
 it's working beautifully since. It hasn't crashed/frozen once.

Thanks for the tip!

By 'flash plugin' you do you mean this package
http://gentoo-portage.com/net-www/netscape-flash
? (just to be sure)



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They recently released a 64-bit version of Flash plugin for Linux. I
 unmerged the nspluginwrapper and unmasked the latest flash plugin and
 it's working beautifully since. It hasn't crashed/frozen once.

 Thanks for the tip!

 By 'flash plugin' you do you mean this package
http://gentoo-portage.com/net-www/netscape-flash
 ? (just to be sure)

Yes, that's the one. I'm using this version:

net-www/netscape-flash-10.0.20.7_alpha



Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits

2008-12-08 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 08 December 2008 17:09:04 Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 14:59 +0100, pat wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
  question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits
  are stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.
 
  The applications are:
  - Seamoneky/Firefox
  - Java
  - Flash
  - Audacious
  - mplayer
  - VirtualBox/VMware
  - Qemu
  - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
  - X.org/fluxbox
  - system suspending

 With very very few exceptions, stability shouldn't be much of an issue
 for you.  It's pretty much the same source code base. What you should be
 more concerned about is application availability, especially WRT:

   * if the application is closed-source is there a 64-bit version
   * have the Gentoo maintainers marked it (yet) for amd64 (stable).
 Gentoo is (or at least used to be) a bit slower at marking
 things amd64 just because there are (were) fewer testers.  I
 think this is pretty much a non-issue nowadays.
   * if it has code optimized in assembler is there optimized
 x64/compabile assembler.

 We (well, I) still use the closed-source (well, binary) versions of
 java.  IBM's Java at least has a 64-bit port.

 Adobe just released a Linux x64 port of Flash (in Alpha).  From my
 experience it's just as stable (or rather unstable) as the x86 version.

 win32codecs will not work unless it's used by a 32-bit exe (You can run
 32-bit apps on x64).

 System suspending if largely kernel.

 Anyway probably more than you wanted to know, but I don't think
 stability is ever really a factor.  Linux has supported 64-bit
 processors for at least 15 years (I think).  Usually the only issue
 (just like running Linux on *any* non-x86 architecture) is the
 availability of proprietary apps.

 -a
I am using amd64/x86 Gentoo for 3 years. Both of them are really really great.
Especially amd64 machine which is my desktop/development can run simply 
everything. All the mainline applications can run perfect on in
So if you want my advise, forget about the x86 and go install amd64. You wont 
regret it :)
-- 
Markos Chandras



[gentoo-user] Need to recover corrupt disk drive...

2008-12-08 Thread Mike
Hi all,

Over the weekend, I did a lot of software updates to my workstation.
Finally, I rebooted the system and it wouldn't boot.  It reported a
kernel panic because it couldn't mount / (/dev/sda3)

Further investigation from a live CD (Ubuntu) indicates that my
partition table has been modified!  sda4 wasn't there when I installed
the system.  The other 3 partitions seem reasonable.  However, GRUB
can't identify the filesystem on either sda1 nor sda3.  I'm also not
able to mount them from my live CD.  Ubuntu doesn't even create device
files for anything other than /dev/sda, but it shows the other
partitions under fdisk.

Here is what I've got:

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9b889b88

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   1 100  803218+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2 101 225 1004062+  82  Linux swap /
Solaris
/dev/sda3 226   38913   310761360   83  Linux
/dev/sda4   1   1   0   53  OnTrack DM6 Aux3

==

So, I'm looking for advise.  What should I try before I just blow it all
away and start over?  I REALLY would like to get my system
restored/fixed, though.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Mike.




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote:

I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with
 /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it
 seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those
 files. I've never modified that file in 8 years of running Gentoo. I
 suppose I probably missed the memo! I tried to solve this problem a
 couple of months ago and heard something similar on the gentoo-64 list
 but didn't get far enough to want to do it. Maybe now's the time?

Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not 
have /etc/env.d/02locale at all.  Am I supposed to create it manually?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I agree with Neil. It sounds like a router issue. Possibly a DMZ
 setting in the router is the same as the IP of the machine that
 doesn't work correctly so the ping gets to the DMZ and the response is
 sent out to the Internet instead of back inside?

I agree too.

I once had a DMZ setting set up on the router long ago.  The address
was 192.168.0.19. It was an old home machine running openbsd with a pf
firewall. 

Currently no machine on the lan has that address and the DMZ
capability is disabled at the router anyway.  (I just checked again
for about the 10th time.)

 I don't think you stated how the problem box got its address. Is it
 fixed IP or something provided by the router?

They are assigned by hand (by me) so static IPs.

 If the 5 internal machines have consecutive addresses, have you tried
 changing the IP address of the machine that doesn't work to something
 above #5? Maybe disconnect one of the other machines and give the
 problem box that IP address?

No I haven't but I'll try it now... just ifconfigging up a new
address.

  ifconfig eth0 down
  ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.27  =was 192.168.0.4
  route add default gw 192.168.0.20
  
  ping ftp.ucsb.edu
  PING ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43) 56(84) bytes of data.
  64 bytes from ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=129 ms
  64 bytes from ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43): icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=117 ms
[...]

Oh boy, we in the chips now.

Yippeee

I new there would be some simple common sense test I would have
overlooked.  Thanks.

So that proves something is blocking that particular address
182.168.0.4 and that seems almost certainly to be something on the
router. 

It must be a setting I cannot find and it must be for icmp only since
I've been able to traceroute or any other kind of connect, right
along.

I could just change that machines address but it would mean changing
all other machines hosts files and such not too big a deal I
guess.

Might be easier to reset the router to default factory condition and
and then set it up for my needs which wouldn't be much work either.
It has a little hole where you press a pin and reset it.

Is there any chance the blockage is coming from something on that
machine and not the router?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I agree with Neil. It sounds like a router issue. Possibly a DMZ
 setting in the router is the same as the IP of the machine that
 doesn't work correctly so the ping gets to the DMZ and the response is
 sent out to the Internet instead of back inside?

 I agree too.

 I once had a DMZ setting set up on the router long ago.  The address
 was 192.168.0.19. It was an old home machine running openbsd with a pf
 firewall.

 Currently no machine on the lan has that address and the DMZ
 capability is disabled at the router anyway.  (I just checked again
 for about the 10th time.)

 I don't think you stated how the problem box got its address. Is it
 fixed IP or something provided by the router?

 They are assigned by hand (by me) so static IPs.

 If the 5 internal machines have consecutive addresses, have you tried
 changing the IP address of the machine that doesn't work to something
 above #5? Maybe disconnect one of the other machines and give the
 problem box that IP address?

 No I haven't but I'll try it now... just ifconfigging up a new
 address.

  ifconfig eth0 down
  ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.27  =was 192.168.0.4
  route add default gw 192.168.0.20

  ping ftp.ucsb.edu
  PING ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43) 56(84) bytes of data.
  64 bytes from ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=129 ms
  64 bytes from ftp.ucsb.edu (128.111.24.43): icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=117 ms
 [...]

 Oh boy, we in the chips now.

 Yippeee

 I new there would be some simple common sense test I would have
 overlooked.  Thanks.

 So that proves something is blocking that particular address
 182.168.0.4 and that seems almost certainly to be something on the
 router.

 It must be a setting I cannot find and it must be for icmp only since
 I've been able to traceroute or any other kind of connect, right
 along.

 I could just change that machines address but it would mean changing
 all other machines hosts files and such not too big a deal I
 guess.

 Might be easier to reset the router to default factory condition and
 and then set it up for my needs which wouldn't be much work either.
 It has a little hole where you press a pin and reset it.

 Is there any chance the blockage is coming from something on that
 machine and not the router?

I don't think there's much chance the problem is on the machine. I
don't know much about these things though.

As for the router I would consider looking for a router firmware
update. I've had a couple of funny problems over the years with my
LinkSys routers. Usually installing more up-to-date firmware has fixed
them.

Glad you are making headway.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote:

I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with
 /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it
 seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those
 files. I've never modified that file in 8 years of running Gentoo. I
 suppose I probably missed the memo! I tried to solve this problem a
 couple of months ago and heard something similar on the gentoo-64 list
 but didn't get far enough to want to do it. Maybe now's the time?

 Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not
 have /etc/env.d/02locale at all.  Am I supposed to create it manually?
 --
 Regards,
 Mick


hehe!! (Laughing at me, not you!)

I don't know... ;-)

I think those files are the responsibility of maybe the baselayout
package? equery belongs doesn't tell me anything. It could depend on
what version you are running. There is some small amount of discussion
about them in the install guides, but not enough info for someone
looking for information to really learn anything.

I'm running baselayout-1.12.11.1 and have updated to the 2008.0
desktop profile. This is an AMD64 install. Don't think any of that
matters but I don't know. (Again, I'm not that much into how all this
works really so I struggle at these things sometimes!)

- Mark



[gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0
from July.  Downloaded from bagvapp.com.

It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems.

But now updating I'm finding I cannot get a newer kernel compiled that
will boot.  The original kernel is 2.6.24-r8 and boot just fine.

I attempted to compile a somewhat leaner meaner version.  It appears
the original was a `genkernel' creation.

I paid close attention to SCSI settings in the original and any other
settings having to do with disks.

However my attempts consistently break out with the message:
  /dev/sda3 is an invalid device

Of course the same /dev/sda3 is recognized fine if I boot from the
original kernel.

You'd think having a kernel on hand that works.. it would'nt be to
tough to build a newer one using setting where possible from the old,
but I'm finding it is proving to be quite difficult.

Admittedly my skill level is rather low but still with one to
plagiarize from seem like it should be a shoo-in.

I've posted two  horribly long configs here:

  http://www.jtan.com/~/reader/massive/

During menuconfig I ran a separate menuconfig in the old kernel
directory so I had them both on screen trying to copy what seemed
important.  

I've already tried many attempts here but still something I'm missing
thats causing the kernel not to recognize /sda3 as a valid device.
I hoped it would be something simple like SCSI_BUSLOGIC but that is
not the case.




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote:

   
I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with
 /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it
 seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those
 files. I've never modified that file in 8 years of running Gentoo. I
 suppose I probably missed the memo! I tried to solve this problem a
 couple of months ago and heard something similar on the gentoo-64 list
 but didn't get far enough to want to do it. Maybe now's the time?
 

 Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not 
 have /etc/env.d/02locale at all.  Am I supposed to create it manually?
   

I noticed earlier that that file does not belong to any package on my
machine so I would guess that you do have to create it.  It appears I
did on mine anyway.  If it needs to be updated later, I'm sure portage
will catch it and config updater will catch it.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


P.S.  I guess it could have been put there by a older package that is no
longer installed and just left over crude.  I dunno.  :/



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mick wrote:

Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not 
have /etc/env.d/02locale at all.  Am I supposed to create it manually?


The file isn't automatically created by anything, since strictly 
speaking you can get away without using it.  However, if you are going 
to add the locale information to your environment, that file name in the 
env.d directory is considered the correct way to do it.


Without it, your locale is probably falling back to C or POSIX, the 
defaults, which for the most part behave just like en_US anyway.  It 
certainly wouldn't hurt for you to explicitly set your locale and 
language options.






[gentoo-user] Re: Need to recover corrupt disk drive...

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, I'm looking for advise.  What should I try before I just blow it all
 away and start over?  I REALLY would like to get my system
 restored/fixed, though.

 Any ideas would be most appreciated.

I have'nt seen something like that happen before.

You said grub could not identify fs on /dev/sda1/3.

Can you post the out put or check it like this:

grub
I'm  assuming sda1 is /boot
  find (hd0,0)/kerntab

if you have something at /boot/kern*
pressing TAB like shown above will complete the name and show
that grub sees that partition.

  You could try (hd0,2)/something you know is there

  Like: 
  find (hd0,2)/bin/attab
  
Should complete to attr if grub sees the partition.
You might get some kind of error too but check if the file name
completed. 


If that stuff works, I'd try re-installing grub in the mbr of the
/boot partition /sda1.  In grub terms thats (hd0,0)

So it would be:

 grub
  root (hd0,0)
  setup (hd0,0)
  grub outputs several lines of response

  quit

Then reboot it and see what happens.




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've posted two  horribly long configs here:

   http://www.jtan.com/~/reader/massive/ 

Sorry.. I screwed up the url.  It should be:

   http://www.jtan.com/~reader/massive/

   (no leading diag line before `reader')

The page lists both the working 2.6.24-r8 working config
and the 2.6.27-r5 non-working

I hope someone with a similar vmware running gentoo on winXP can see what
I've left out.  Or maybe just supply a working config for 2.6.27*.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've posted two  horribly long configs here:

   http://www.jtan.com/~/reader/massive/

 Sorry.. I screwed up the url.  It should be:

   http://www.jtan.com/~reader/massive/

   (no leading diag line before `reader')

 The page lists both the working 2.6.24-r8 working config
 and the 2.6.27-r5 non-working

 I hope someone with a similar vmware running gentoo on winXP can see what
 I've left out.  Or maybe just supply a working config for 2.6.27*.


I will be no real help but I run the rt-sources kernel from the
pro-audio overlay. (Not vmware - just a normal Gentoo machine) I have
run a 2.6.24-rt version for a long time and it runs great. I recently
tried the 2.6.27-rt version and I had to give up on it. It has
problems for me on a normal box. I haven't paid any attention to
what's going on with the kernel recently but I had to drop 2.6.26 and
2.6.26 in favor of 2.6.24.

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I will be no real help but I run the rt-sources kernel from the
 pro-audio overlay. (Not vmware - just a normal Gentoo machine) I have
 run a 2.6.24-rt version for a long time and it runs great. I recently
 tried the 2.6.27-rt version and I had to give up on it. It has
 problems for me on a normal box. I haven't paid any attention to
 what's going on with the kernel recently but I had to drop 2.6.26 and
 2.6.26 in favor of 2.6.24.

Thanks for the input... I have 2.6.27-4 running ok on at least 2 other
machines so I guess it works ok on normal machines.  I suspect its
some little twit thing I keep overlooking.




[gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
I wonder if someone can guess at what I'm supposed to do to be able to
complete --depclean. The machine is currently clean on emerge -DuN
world and revdep-rebuild. I don't understand how I'm supposed to
handle this mit-krb5 thing.

I've shown the use flags for all the packages at the end and don't see
what they have in common. Was this caused somehow by my switch to
2008.0? The machine was clean before I changed the profile and started
rebuilding.

I did try rebuilding a couple fo the packages but nothing changed afterward...

Cheers and thanks in advance,
Mark

lightning ~ # emerge -p --depclean

 * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
 * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
 * be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
 * `emerge --noreplace atom`.  Packages that are listed in
 * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
 * depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
 *
 * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
 * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
 * consequence, it is often necessary to run `emerge --update
 * --newuse --deep @system @world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!
 Checking for lib consumers...
 Assigning files to packages...
 * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
 * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
 * packages that pulled them in.
 *
 *   app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 pulled in by:
 * app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62
 * dev-util/subversion-1.5.4
 * media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2
 * media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1
 * net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33
 * net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3
 * x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5
 *
 Adding lib providers to graph...
 -
Calculating dependencies... done!
 No packages selected for removal by depclean
 To see reverse dependencies, use --verbose
lightning ~ #

lightning ~ # emerge -pv ghostscript-gpl subversion vorbis-tools totem
gnome-cups-manager libgnomecups gtk+

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5  USE=X cups jpeg tiff -debug
-doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] dev-util/subversion-1.5.4  USE=berkdb dso java nls
perl python webdav-neon -apache2 -bash-completion -debug -doc -emacs
-extras -ruby -sasl -vim-syntax -webdav-serf 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2  USE=flac nls
ogg123 -speex 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62  USE=X cjk cups gtk
-bindist -djvu -jpeg2k 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1  USE=bluetooth gnome
python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
-tracker -xulrunner 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33  USE=-debug 0 kB

Total: 7 packages (7 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I will be no real help but I run the rt-sources kernel from the
 pro-audio overlay. (Not vmware - just a normal Gentoo machine) I have
 run a 2.6.24-rt version for a long time and it runs great. I recently
 tried the 2.6.27-rt version and I had to give up on it. It has
 problems for me on a normal box. I haven't paid any attention to
 what's going on with the kernel recently but I had to drop 2.6.26 and
 2.6.26 in favor of 2.6.24.

 Thanks for the input... I have 2.6.27-4 running ok on at least 2 other
 machines so I guess it works ok on normal machines.  I suspect its
 some little twit thing I keep overlooking.


My big issue so far with the 2.6.27-rt kernel is something having to
do with clocks. When booting it doesn't find the clock hardware I
guess, complains that it's not there, suggests lots of files have
dates in the future - that whole mess. However once it's booted to the
point where I can get control the clocks are working fine. I don't
know what to fix with that.

I'm also seeing some very strange delays with X. I get a GDM log-in,
then it disappears for 20 seconds, then it comes back. I haven't had
time to report it to the rt-kernel list.

- Mark



[gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

or this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is that I 
want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when I 
am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

 or this?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

 Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is that I 
 want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when I 
 am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?
   

Have you checked in the cache directory?  I read somewhere that they are
sometimes stored there, temporarily at least.

Also, you may be able to do a save this page as and then find it in
the directory it creates.  Maybe?  I have never tried that hence the maybe.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:40:42PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 I wonder if someone can guess at what I'm supposed to do to be able to
 complete --depclean. The machine is currently clean on emerge -DuN
 world and revdep-rebuild. I don't understand how I'm supposed to
 handle this mit-krb5 thing.

snip
  * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
  * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
  * packages that pulled them in.
  *
  *   app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 pulled in by:
  * app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62
  * dev-util/subversion-1.5.4
  * media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2
  * media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1
  * net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33
  * net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3
  * x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5
/snip

snip
 
 lightning ~ # emerge -pv ghostscript-gpl subversion vorbis-tools totem
 gnome-cups-manager libgnomecups gtk+
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5  USE=X cups jpeg tiff -debug
 -doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax -xinerama 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-util/subversion-1.5.4  USE=berkdb dso java nls
 perl python webdav-neon -apache2 -bash-completion -debug -doc -emacs
 -extras -ruby -sasl -vim-syntax -webdav-serf 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2  USE=flac nls
 ogg123 -speex 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62  USE=X cjk cups gtk
 -bindist -djvu -jpeg2k 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1  USE=bluetooth gnome
 python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
 -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33  USE=-debug 0 kB
/snip

Okay, gtk+, ghostscript, gnome-cups-manager, libgnomecups all are
obviously related to printing, which means they probably rely on
net-print/cups, which depends on mit-krb5 if you have the kerberos USE
flag turned on. Did you just recently switch off the kerberos flag? If
so try recompiling cups and then those four packages. 

vorbis-tools depends on curl if you have the ogg123 flag set, and
net-misc/curl also has the kerberos flag. So you may need to rebuild
the curl package then the vorbis-tools package. 

I suspect similar things happen for totem and subversion. My guess for
subversion is that it depends on neon, which USE kerberos (too lazy to
check the ebuild now). Totem I have no idea. 

I think your emerge -DuN probably have recompiled the cups/neon/curl
and what not because of the USE flag change, but since it is a
recompile, revdep-rebuild may not have caught the changing libs and
now you need to rebuild these seven packages. 

Does that sound reasonable?

HTH, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics,  Princeton University,  Princeton
A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given.



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Andrey Falko
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

 or this?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

 Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is that
 I
 want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when I
 am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?


I can't speak for what encoder cbsnews is using, but two things:

1) You can encode into flv using ffmpeg from just about any format you can
imagine. Just google your input video format, ffmpeg, and flv. For example:
mov to flv using ffmpeg

2) If you want to watch youtube videos offline, just use this web tool or
use google to find a million alternatives: keepvid.com.


Re: [gentoo-user] Need to recover corrupt disk drive...

2008-12-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 08 Dezember 2008, Mike wrote:
=

 So, I'm looking for advise.  What should I try before I just blow it all
 away and start over?  I REALLY would like to get my system
 restored/fixed, though.

testdisk. It can find and recover partitions - and if that is not enough - 
files.



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:40:42PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 I wonder if someone can guess at what I'm supposed to do to be able to
 complete --depclean. The machine is currently clean on emerge -DuN
 world and revdep-rebuild. I don't understand how I'm supposed to
 handle this mit-krb5 thing.

 snip
  * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
  * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
  * packages that pulled them in.
  *
  *   app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 pulled in by:
  * app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62
  * dev-util/subversion-1.5.4
  * media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2
  * media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1
  * net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33
  * net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3
  * x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5
 /snip

 snip

 lightning ~ # emerge -pv ghostscript-gpl subversion vorbis-tools totem
 gnome-cups-manager libgnomecups gtk+

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5  USE=X cups jpeg tiff -debug
 -doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax -xinerama 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-util/subversion-1.5.4  USE=berkdb dso java nls
 perl python webdav-neon -apache2 -bash-completion -debug -doc -emacs
 -extras -ruby -sasl -vim-syntax -webdav-serf 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2  USE=flac nls
 ogg123 -speex 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62  USE=X cjk cups gtk
 -bindist -djvu -jpeg2k 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1  USE=bluetooth gnome
 python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
 -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33  USE=-debug 0 kB
 /snip

 Okay, gtk+, ghostscript, gnome-cups-manager, libgnomecups all are
 obviously related to printing, which means they probably rely on
 net-print/cups, which depends on mit-krb5 if you have the kerberos USE
 flag turned on. Did you just recently switch off the kerberos flag? If
 so try recompiling cups and then those four packages.


I may have. I don't remember:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv cups

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.9-r1  USE=X acl dbus java jpeg
ldap pam perl png ppds python ssl tiff -avahi -gnutls -kerberos -php
-samba -slp -static -xinetd -zeroconf LINGUAS=en -de -es -et -fr -he
-id -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

I will rebuild cups and those 4 packages to see if I make some headway.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 December 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?
 
  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml
 
  or this?
 
  http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n
 
  Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is
  that I
  want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when
  I am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?

 I can't speak for what encoder cbsnews is using, but two things:

 1) You can encode into flv using ffmpeg from just about any format you can
 imagine. Just google your input video format, ffmpeg, and flv. For example:
 mov to flv using ffmpeg

 2) If you want to watch youtube videos offline, just use this web tool or
 use google to find a million alternatives: keepvid.com.

Thank you for your answers.  youtube uses flv files which are listed in /tmp 
and can be saved.  CBS probably uses some DRM trick because the files are not 
shown anywhere - I've checked in real time in /tmp and in Opera's cache 
files.  Nothing visible is shown there.  :-(
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

 or this?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

 Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is that I
 want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when I
 am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?

CBS looks to be streaming from a Flash Media Server on port 1935
(http://www.adobe.com/products/flashcom/) rather than just downloading
a static FLV file over http like Youtube etc. do, so I think you're
out of luck there unless there are some specialized tools to do that.

For MOST sites, like YouTube, you can use the Firebug add-on for
Firefox which includes a network monitor that will show you the exact
URL (and let you right-click to download) of anything that any page
loads.



[gentoo-user] mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 
2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one 
exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't 
work anymore.  Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc 
-v file` also does nothing; the application simply exits with no error 
messages (or any other messages; just nothing).


Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild 
shows all is OK.





Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread KH
Andrey Falko schrieb:
 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this
 link?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

 or this?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

 Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The
 idea is that I
 want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch
 it when I
 am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?


 [snip]

 2) If you want to watch youtube videos offline, just use this web tool
 or use google to find a million alternatives: keepvid.com
 http://keepvid.com.
Hi
sometimes [1] is helpfull (it isn't for cbsnews).

Even tho he did not ask for it, there is a program in portage calles
youtube-dl [2] as well as others I never tried [3].

kh


[1]: http://viloader.net/index.php?language=en

[2]: http://gentoo-portage.com/net-misc/youtube-dl

[3]: http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=youtube



Re: [gentoo-user] mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from
 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one exception:
 viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore.
  Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` also
 does nothing; the application simply exits with no error messages (or any
 other messages; just nothing).

 Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild shows
 all is OK.

It still works fine for me. I'm using ~amd64 and these versions:

sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201
app-misc/mc-4.6.2_pre1

I didn't do anything special after upgrading glibc.

Does MC use file or some similar command to identify what kind of
document it is opening? Perhaps some supporting utility is broken on
your side for some reason.

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 December 2008, KH wrote:
 Andrey Falko schrieb:
  On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this
  link?
 
  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml
 
  or this?
 
  http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n
 
  Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The
  idea is that I
  want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch
  it when I
  am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?
 
 
  [snip]
 
  2) If you want to watch youtube videos offline, just use this web tool
  or use google to find a million alternatives: keepvid.com
  http://keepvid.com.

 Hi
 sometimes [1] is helpfull (it isn't for cbsnews).

 Even tho he did not ask for it, there is a program in portage calles
 youtube-dl [2] as well as others I never tried [3].

 kh


 [1]: http://viloader.net/index.php?language=en

 [2]: http://gentoo-portage.com/net-misc/youtube-dl

 [3]: http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=youtube

It seems to be that the SWF file design is such that unlike flv files (e.g. as 
served by youtube) which can be captured/save directly from browser/tmp 
cache, the SWF stream has to be unpacked first.  This is necessary to 
discover the URL that the video file is being served from.  Furthermore, 
there may well be cookie style session id issues so that capturing content 
from the stream/server requires programming abilities (I have none).

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashmediaserver/articles/digital_media_protection.html
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems to be that the SWF file design is such that unlike flv files (e.g. as
 served by youtube) which can be captured/save directly from browser/tmp
 cache, the SWF stream has to be unpacked first.  This is necessary to
 discover the URL that the video file is being served from.  Furthermore,
 there may well be cookie style session id issues so that capturing content
 from the stream/server requires programming abilities (I have none).

Yeah, I think they can do SSL tunneling of HTTP through RTMP and other
fun stuff like that.



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there a way to capture a flash video like the one shown in this link?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/60minutes/main4650223.shtml

 or this?

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4653109n

 Unlike e.g. youtube I don't find a Flash file in my /tmp.  The idea is that I
 want to be able to save the video on my drive so that I can watch it when I
 am offline.  Any applications/tricks/ideas?

I just downloaded a demo of Replay Media Catcher on my work (Windows)
PC and verified that it can in fact save the CBS video. It is a
commercial Windows program, though, but if you have access to a
windows machine (or virtualized windows machine) at least it's better
than nothing.

http://applian.com/replay-media-catcher/demo.php

And it's proof that capturing those videos is possible.

Paul



[gentoo-user] Re: 32-bit emulation not working with tsmuxer

2008-12-08 Thread Grant
 I'm trying to use the 32-bit tsmuxer on my 64-bit system but I get:

 $ ./tsMuxeR
 /tmp/tmp.UObdGrc5Iz/tsMuxeR:
 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/32/libstdc++.so.6: version
 `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /tmp/tmp.UObdGrc5Iz/tsMuxeR)

 I have emul-linux-x86-baselibs and emul-linux-x86-compat installed and
 I have IA32 Emulation enabled in my kernel.  Does this mean I need to
 set up a 32-bit chroot?

 - Grant

A guy on a 64-bit opensuse is telling me that tsmuxer runs fine for
him with emulation.  Does anyone know what could be wrong with mine?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:56:39PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0
 from July.  Downloaded from bagvapp.com.
 
 It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems.
 
 But now updating I'm finding I cannot get a newer kernel compiled that
 will boot.  The original kernel is 2.6.24-r8 and boot just fine.
 
 I attempted to compile a somewhat leaner meaner version.  It appears
 the original was a `genkernel' creation.
 
 I paid close attention to SCSI settings in the original and any other
 settings having to do with disks.
 
 However my attempts consistently break out with the message:
   /dev/sda3 is an invalid device
 
Try appending noapic (without the quotes, of course) to your kernel
line in grub.conf.

I was having the same issues.

festus
-- 
I just want to break even.


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[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from
2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one exception:
viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore.
 Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` also
does nothing; the application simply exits with no error messages (or any
other messages; just nothing).

Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild shows
all is OK.


It still works fine for me. I'm using ~amd64 and these versions:

sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201
app-misc/mc-4.6.2_pre1

I didn't do anything special after upgrading glibc.

Does MC use file or some similar command to identify what kind of
document it is opening? Perhaps some supporting utility is broken on
your side for some reason.


I've rebuild everything mc uses to no avail.  I made a quickpgk glibc 
before upgrading in hope to revert back if something like this happens, 
but I was not aware of this:



  emerge --usepkgonly glibc
  Calculating dependencies... done!

   Emerging binary (1 of 1) sys-libs/glibc-2.8_p20080602
   * glibc-2.8_p20080602.tbz2 MD5 SHA1 size ;-)   [ ok ]
   Extracting info
   * Sanity check to keep you from breaking your system:
   *  Downgrading glibc is not supported and a sure way to destruction


I just got owned?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've rebuild everything mc uses to no avail.  I made a quickpgk glibc
 before upgrading in hope to revert back if something like this happens, but
 I was not aware of this:


  emerge --usepkgonly glibc
  Calculating dependencies... done!

   Emerging binary (1 of 1) sys-libs/glibc-2.8_p20080602
   * glibc-2.8_p20080602.tbz2 MD5 SHA1 size ;-)   [ ok ]
   Extracting info
   * Sanity check to keep you from breaking your system:
   *  Downgrading glibc is not supported and a sure way to destruction


 I just got owned?

Wow, I never knew about that either. There is some discussion in this old bug:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/238521

It looks like you can edit the glibc ebuild and force it if you know
it'll be okay.

Good luck :)

paul



Re: [gentoo-user] mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from
 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one exception:
 viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore.
  Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` also
 does nothing; the application simply exits with no error messages (or any
 other messages; just nothing).

 Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild shows
 all is OK.

Also maybe you can try strace to see if anything unusual happens at
the end before it exits...

paul



[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from
2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one exception:
viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore.
 Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` also
does nothing; the application simply exits with no error messages (or any
other messages; just nothing).

Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild shows
all is OK.


Also maybe you can try strace to see if anything unusual happens at
the end before it exits...

paul


Does this say anything?

read(3, 0x22d80a4, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)

Also, running various programs through valgrind now show a bunch of 
errors (even a simple int main(){return 0;} C program). 
/lib64/ld-2.9.so is part of glibc:


==10783== ERROR SUMMARY: 4 errors from 4 contexts (suppressed: 0 from 0)
==10783==
==10783== 1 errors in context 1 of 4:
==10783== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
==10783==at 0x30AAAE: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3039A2: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3140CB: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3014F8: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x300C47: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x0: ???
==10783==by 0x7FF36: ???
==10783==
==10783== 1 errors in context 2 of 4:
==10783== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
==10783==at 0x30AAA5: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3039A2: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3140CB: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3014F8: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x300C47: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x0: ???
==10783==by 0x7FF36: ???
==10783==
==10783== 1 errors in context 3 of 4:
==10783== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
==10783==at 0x30AAAE: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3038BE: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3140CB: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3014F8: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x300C47: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x0: ???
==10783==by 0x7FF36: ???
==10783==
==10783== 1 errors in context 4 of 4:
==10783== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
==10783==at 0x30AAA5: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3038BE: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3140CB: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x3014F8: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x300C47: (within /lib64/ld-2.9.so)
==10783==by 0x0: ???
==10783==by 0x7FF36: ???
==10783== IN SUMMARY: 4 errors from 4 contexts (suppressed: 0 from 0)




Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:40:42PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 I wonder if someone can guess at what I'm supposed to do to be able to
 complete --depclean. The machine is currently clean on emerge -DuN
 world and revdep-rebuild. I don't understand how I'm supposed to
 handle this mit-krb5 thing.

 snip
  * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
  * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
  * packages that pulled them in.
  *
  *   app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 pulled in by:
  * app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62
  * dev-util/subversion-1.5.4
  * media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2
  * media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1
  * net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33
  * net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3
  * x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5
 /snip

 snip

 lightning ~ # emerge -pv ghostscript-gpl subversion vorbis-tools totem
 gnome-cups-manager libgnomecups gtk+

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5  USE=X cups jpeg tiff -debug
 -doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax -xinerama 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-util/subversion-1.5.4  USE=berkdb dso java nls
 perl python webdav-neon -apache2 -bash-completion -debug -doc -emacs
 -extras -ruby -sasl -vim-syntax -webdav-serf 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2  USE=flac nls
 ogg123 -speex 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62  USE=X cjk cups gtk
 -bindist -djvu -jpeg2k 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1  USE=bluetooth gnome
 python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
 -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33  USE=-debug 0 kB
 /snip

 Okay, gtk+, ghostscript, gnome-cups-manager, libgnomecups all are
 obviously related to printing, which means they probably rely on
 net-print/cups, which depends on mit-krb5 if you have the kerberos USE
 flag turned on. Did you just recently switch off the kerberos flag? If
 so try recompiling cups and then those four packages.


 I may have. I don't remember:

 lightning ~ # emerge -pv cups

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.9-r1  USE=X acl dbus java jpeg
 ldap pam perl png ppds python ssl tiff -avahi -gnutls -kerberos -php
 -samba -slp -static -xinetd -zeroconf LINGUAS=en -de -es -et -fr -he
 -id -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 lightning ~ #

 I will rebuild cups and those 4 packages to see if I make some headway.

 Thanks,
 Mark


Hi Willie,
   OK, it's *mostly* cleaned up. There is apparently some sort of
problem with the totem ebuild. Interesting that totem was the one you
didn't seem to have an answer for. It needs kerberos but doesn't seem
to have it as a dependency. I'll report it as a bug.

Thanks,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 
2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one 
exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't 
work anymore.  Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc 
-v file` also does nothing; the application simply exits with no error 
messages (or any other messages; just nothing).


Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild 
shows all is OK.


I've solved it.  I had to go ~arch on sys-kernel/linux-headers and 
rebuild glibc.  I was using stable headers before (2.6.23-r3).  After I 
upgraded to ~amd64 2.6.27-r2 and emerged glibc again, the bug went away.


One more for the archive.  Thanks anyone for trying to help :)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 Weird problem this one.  I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from
 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine.  With one exception:
 viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore.
  Pressing F3 (View) does nothing.  Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` also
 does nothing; the application simply exits with no error messages (or any
 other messages; just nothing).

 Anyone encountered this?  I've rebuild mc of course and revdep-rebuild
 shows all is OK.

 I've solved it.  I had to go ~arch on sys-kernel/linux-headers and rebuild
 glibc.  I was using stable headers before (2.6.23-r3).  After I upgraded to
 ~amd64 2.6.27-r2 and emerged glibc again, the bug went away.

 One more for the archive.  Thanks anyone for trying to help :)

Ah-ha. I didn't think about that, but every time I emerge kernel
headers it suggests rebuilding glibc. I guess they added something new
over the years :)

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Fabrice Delliaux
Le Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:32:29 -0800,
Mark Knecht a écrit :

 It needs kerberos but doesn't seem
 to have it as a dependency. I'll report it as a bug.

You should rebuild dev-libs/totem-pl-parser. See bug #235101.



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:32:29 -0800,
 Mark Knecht a écrit :

 It needs kerberos but doesn't seem
 to have it as a dependency. I'll report it as a bug.

 You should rebuild dev-libs/totem-pl-parser. See bug #235101.


Thanks Fabrice. You saved me a lot of time searching this out. My
machine is now updated to the 2008.0 profile, the locale problems are
fixed, and I'm clean on a world emerge, depclean and revdep-rebuild.

Cheers,
Mark


[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:56:39PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0
 from July.  Downloaded from bagvapp.com.
 
 It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems.
 
 But now updating I'm finding I cannot get a newer kernel compiled that
 will boot.  The original kernel is 2.6.24-r8 and boot just fine.
 
 I attempted to compile a somewhat leaner meaner version.  It appears
 the original was a `genkernel' creation.
 
 I paid close attention to SCSI settings in the original and any other
 settings having to do with disks.
 
 However my attempts consistently break out with the message:
   /dev/sda3 is an invalid device
 

 Try appending noapic (without the quotes, of course) to your kernel
 line in grub.conf.

Doesn't make any difference here.

 I was having the same issues.

So you are running gentoo inside a vmware on winXP?

Can you send your /usr/src/*2.6.27-r4/.config?
That is my real email address in the from field.

Maybe I can find whats different .. if anything between mine and
yours. 




Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Le Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:32:29 -0800,
 Mark Knecht a écrit :

 
 It needs kerberos but doesn't seem
 to have it as a dependency. I'll report it as a bug.
   
 You should rebuild dev-libs/totem-pl-parser. See bug #235101.


 
 Thanks Fabrice. You saved me a lot of time searching this out. My
 machine is now updated to the 2008.0 profile, the locale problems are
 fixed, and I'm clean on a world emerge, depclean and revdep-rebuild.

 Cheers,
 Mark
   

Now you can make your back-ups.  lol  Glad you got that thing running. 
Whew, I'm glad I updated mine a long time ago.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:32:29 -0800,
 Mark Knecht a écrit :


 It needs kerberos but doesn't seem
 to have it as a dependency. I'll report it as a bug.

 You should rebuild dev-libs/totem-pl-parser. See bug #235101.



 Thanks Fabrice. You saved me a lot of time searching this out. My
 machine is now updated to the 2008.0 profile, the locale problems are
 fixed, and I'm clean on a world emerge, depclean and revdep-rebuild.

 Cheers,
 Mark


 Now you can make your back-ups.  lol  Glad you got that thing running.
 Whew, I'm glad I updated mine a long time ago.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

Yeah, that's what I get for having to work in windows even at home. I
getbehind on Gentoo, then I start forgetting, then it's all down hill
from there.

I appreciate everyone's help.

Cheers


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:56:06PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:56:39PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
  
  However my attempts consistently break out with the message:
/dev/sda3 is an invalid device
  
 
  Try appending noapic (without the quotes, of course) to your kernel
  line in grub.conf.
 
 Doesn't make any difference here.
 
  I was having the same issues.
 
 So you are running gentoo inside a vmware on winXP?

Yeah, running 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 in vmplayer on XP. I was getting the same
error till I read somewhere about trying the noapic option. Fired right
up. Here's my grub.conf entry for the kernel in case it helps.

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.23-r9
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.23-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/sda3 noapic

If you'd like the .config even though it's a different kernel,
just say so.

festus
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange --depclean / mit-krb5

2008-12-08 Thread Dake Wang
I think in the configure script of some softwares they will just detect
whether certain things are installed even though you turned off the use
flag. So you just remove kerberos first, then remerge the packages that are
reported to be depending on them.

Cheers

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:40:42PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
  I wonder if someone can guess at what I'm supposed to do to be able to
  complete --depclean. The machine is currently clean on emerge -DuN
  world and revdep-rebuild. I don't understand how I'm supposed to
  handle this mit-krb5 thing.

 snip
   * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
   * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
   * packages that pulled them in.
   *
   *   app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 pulled in by:
   * app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62
   * dev-util/subversion-1.5.4
   * media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2
   * media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1
   * net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33
   * net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3
   * x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5
 /snip

 snip
 
  lightning ~ # emerge -pv ghostscript-gpl subversion vorbis-tools totem
  gnome-cups-manager libgnomecups gtk+
 
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.5  USE=X cups jpeg tiff -debug
  -doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax -xinerama 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] dev-util/subversion-1.5.4  USE=berkdb dso java nls
  perl python webdav-neon -apache2 -bash-completion -debug -doc -emacs
  -extras -ruby -sasl -vim-syntax -webdav-serf 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.2.0-r2  USE=flac nls
  ogg123 -speex 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.62  USE=X cjk cups gtk
  -bindist -djvu -jpeg2k 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1  USE=bluetooth gnome
  python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
  -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.33  USE=-debug 0 kB
 /snip

 Okay, gtk+, ghostscript, gnome-cups-manager, libgnomecups all are
 obviously related to printing, which means they probably rely on
 net-print/cups, which depends on mit-krb5 if you have the kerberos USE
 flag turned on. Did you just recently switch off the kerberos flag? If
 so try recompiling cups and then those four packages.

 vorbis-tools depends on curl if you have the ogg123 flag set, and
 net-misc/curl also has the kerberos flag. So you may need to rebuild
 the curl package then the vorbis-tools package.

 I suspect similar things happen for totem and subversion. My guess for
 subversion is that it depends on neon, which USE kerberos (too lazy to
 check the ebuild now). Totem I have no idea.

 I think your emerge -DuN probably have recompiled the cups/neon/curl
 and what not because of the USE flag change, but since it is a
 recompile, revdep-rebuild may not have caught the changing libs and
 now you need to rebuild these seven packages.

 Does that sound reasonable?

 HTH,

 W
 --
 Willie W. Wong
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Princeton
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yeah, running 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 in vmplayer on XP. I was getting the same
 error till I read somewhere about trying the noapic option. Fired right
 up. Here's my grub.conf entry for the kernel in case it helps.

 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.23-r9
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.23-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/sda3 noapic

Thanks... that addition doesn't help me here but as you've seen I'm
trying to run 2.6.27*.

Something I found on line may help you at some point... in the same
way you've used noapic some users have found doscsi to be helpful.
From what I remember it causes any scsi scanning or loading to proceed
earlier. 

 If you'd like the .config even though it's a different kernel,
 just say so.

No, I have earlier kernels working 2.6.24-r8, but thanks for the
offer. 

I just want to upgrade but there is really nothing I'm after in
a newer kernel.  However I would like to know if there is some change
since 2.6.24 that is making it so difficult to get a working config
for 2.6.27* because at some point I will need to upgrade.

I've successfully updated all other software on the vmware guest.





[gentoo-user] [OT] Anyone running 2.6.27* kernel as guest in vmware?

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I hope I don't get torched for posting several OT threads recently but
I'm really at my wits end with getting a newer kernel to work in
gentoo guest on windows XP inside a virtual machine.

I wondered if any kind sole who has a 2.6.27-* kernel working in that
situation would mind sending me the .config file to plagiarize?

I am using scsi virtual disks so if you are using ide it may make a
difference but I'd still like to see the .config

The `From:' address in my posts always contains my real email address so
feel free to use it.  That .config file is kind of large to post here.




Re: [gentoo-user] Automounting of USB drives

2008-12-08 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer

On 12/1/08 4:15 PM, AJ Spagnoletti wrote:

I have finally reached the point where I use enough USB media
(external hard drives and flash drives) that I would like to set up a
system to automount the media devices for me. I have read in the past
about hal + ivman and a bit of googling has brought up AutoFS as well.
I was just wondering what the best system to automount USB media would
be. I am looking for something that is relatively easy to set up and
is also well maintained. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

AJ


   
Anyone ever reply to this?  If you're using Gnome, then HAL + Gnome will 
take care of it.  I am using HAL + ivman in my servers.   It works well 
for fixing mount points.




Re: [gentoo-user] How can I capture this video?

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 December 2008, Paul Hartman wrote:

 I just downloaded a demo of Replay Media Catcher on my work (Windows)
 PC and verified that it can in fact save the CBS video. It is a
 commercial Windows program, though, but if you have access to a
 windows machine (or virtualized windows machine) at least it's better
 than nothing.

 http://applian.com/replay-media-catcher/demo.php

 And it's proof that capturing those videos is possible.

Thanks Paul, unfortunately I do not have a MSWindows machine virtual or 
otherwise for this purpose (my work's MSWindows PC is locked down 
completely).  As you say it proves that the concept works - all we need to do 
is develop this for the Linux-land.  I hope that someone who can, does and 
shares.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Only a proper analysis of your files will tell you this. It's easy enough to 
 check for individual file fragmentation and get stats on that before you do 
 the copy-off/copy-back.



   

This is interesting.  I am starting a new install on my backup drive. 
I'm part way through the install, fetching all the KDE stuff right now. 
This is what I got from the little frag script:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # /root/fragck.pl /backup/
0.953336175120985% non contiguous files, 1.02414182192021 average fragments.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Less than 1% is my starting point I guess.  This currently has ext3 on
it.  I did start out with a freshly formatted file system.  Also, this
is all on one big partition at the moment. 

I'll post later what it says after compiling a few packages.  I figure
KDE should stir up something.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] cannot burn cd: permissions error

2008-12-08 Thread Andrey Vul
I get the following error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 vmware/Windows\ XP\
Professional/shared/vLite.iso
cdrecord: No write mode specified.
cdrecord: Asuming -sao mode.
cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao.
cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive
dependent defaults.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a53 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright
(C) 1995-2008 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise
RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING:
Cannot do mlockall(2).
cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0'
devname: 'ATA'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/hd*'. Cannot
open or use SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls /dev/hd* -lh
brw-rw 1 root disk   3,  0 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hda
brw-rw 1 root disk   3,  1 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hda1
brw-rw 1 root disk   3,  2 Dec  9 02:15 /dev/hda2
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 64 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 65 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb1
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 66 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb2
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 67 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb3
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 69 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb5
brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 70 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdb6
brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22,  0 Dec  8 14:06 /dev/hdc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ groups
tty disk lp mem wheel audio cdrom video games usb andrey

How do I solve this (it's not a hardware issue)?

-- 
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