Whole takes have edits :)
What would be fun is to release ALL the takes. That would be cool.
Having worked on a number of live, unedited recordings, I can say
that they are mostly not unedited.
Even taking whole phrases, or even pieces, is still some editing, but
these unspecified ones had
Release it as a DVD!
I'll lend you a camera!
best
dt
At 02:07 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:
Passion is a delicious fruit too, David ;-) ! I agree with you and I
also deplore the standardization of lute sound in recent recordings.
But H2s or equivalent devices can be very useful, impartial tools to
Dear All,
These are topics close to my heart at the moment, having started to make
simple MP3 recordings for my website. So far, my efforts are all
essentially single takes, though in a couple of cases with a kind of
join in the middle. It is so hard to play a complete piece without a
David, Jean-Marie et les autres
There is another side to this question. Jacob Heringman speaks about
it on his interview with Ed Durbrow, and also on his home site.
He is often not happy with his recordings, he feels that he over
monitors his playing in the recording context (he is too
I work a lot with a particular singer who responds very well to
audiences, and the audiences to him. Studio recordings with him
tend to be a lot safer and therefore blander. For our next cd,
we've done three studio edited recordings together so far, I've
talked him into a live recording.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings
Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the
primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the
sound and the easy volume changes
I don't think EQ will do it, the free room simulator software or the
more expensive professional versions help a little bit, but once you
lose the essential harmonics
it is difficult to replace them. When using budget mics, the main
thing is minimize the reflections. So here you need a really
David, your comparison of the digital camera and the digital recorder
are helpful, although I am not technologically competent enough to
say just how far you can go in that direction.
Evidently, the lens or microphone set the overall limit in recording
quality, whatever equipment comes
Passion is a delicious fruit too, David ;-) ! I agree with you and I also
deplore the standardization of lute sound in recent recordings. But H2s or
equivalent devices can be very useful, impartial tools to work with, certainly
NOT to make a Cd !!! I am preparing to do a recording next summer
This is fascinating, in that the topic of recordings is coming up, in
particular with lack of editing. Toyohiko Satoh just released a new CD,
music of Phillip Franz LeSage de Richee, on a period instrument, in a..
plain gut, no edits, complete whole takes. It is refreshing, to say the
Warmest thanks, David, for all the detailed explanations. Much appreciated
by the dummy I am!
In this case, you will want 48/24 unless you wish to make a CD
recording, for that you need 44.1/24.
Does this mean that one can only burn this type of file to an audio CD?
Thanks again!
Dennis
CDs are 44.1/16 bit, and 44.1 is a bad fraction.
In converting 44.1/24 to CD, the music is organized into blocks, and
the extra bits are tossed (remember that they can be used for gain),
but if you record at 44.1 you then can get almost exactly that info
onto the CD.
If you record at 48, you
Thanks, David, for all the further information. Very helpful!
For $100 or less you can get a sound card for a laptop or PC that has
exceptional sound.
Do you have any specific recommendations?
Dennis
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Hi David,
I thought that one benefits in high resolution recording because there is
some room left for mastering like reverb etc...so that we don't loose
quality in the end. Obviously this is more important when we deal with rock
or pop music where we have lots of effects involved, but still
Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the
primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the
sound and the easy volume changes.
When presented with the long list of choices, unless disk space is
really an issue, you are looking at 44/24 for CD, 48/24
I wish I could understand any of this..
P
: )
On 15/03/2008, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the
primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the
sound and the easy volume changes.
When presented
Sorry...
When you buy a flash audio recorder--a great teaching/learning tool--
you have to decide in the settings how much resolution to use.
There's lots of settings, and the manufacturers are not helpful.
The bits is like (but not exactly like) the number of megapixels on a
camera, more
Hi folks,
Martin Shepherd wrote:
here are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our
experiences with this machine. Which settings did you use?
I just got mine and have been playing around with it instead of working.
I'm rather impressed with the quality of the out-of-the-box
The simple answer is that it depends on what you will do with the recording.
All converters are tweaked a bit to favor a particular notch.
However, unless you will be using the zoom professionally, your
concerns will be the final format.
In this case, you will want 48/24 unless you wish to make
hello,
seems to me, that esnips solved the problem. my folder lautenklang works
again in firefox.
http://www.esnips.com/web/lautenklang
greetings
wolfgang
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On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
...Gesture is important in all music, be it blues,
jazz, or French Baroque, and I feel that composers did not notate
it simply
because it was hard to capture on paper without performers making
it sound
too automated,
Much like swing in
,
Stephen Arndt
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings
After a short discussion with Stephen Arndt and with his consent, here's
VERY nice, Mathias. Beautiful tone, the bass especially.
Rob
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F A N T A S T I C !
you and Valerie are my favorite !
respect
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Andrew Gibbs wrote:
I've been thinking about getting a Zoom H2 - does anyone know how they
work with Macs?
Thanks
Andrew
The manual says PC and Mac supported. There is a operating system
update to version 1.20 at the Zoom site. The major update is for the
USB card reader support under Mac
Martin Shepherd wrote:
Dear Valéry,
Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so many
of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this
machine. Which settings did you use? What was the recording distance?
Wonderful to hear you play with the better
Fantastic Valery !
I can say , you are one of the best luthistes i ever heard !
probably the best at the moment
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Valéry,
I would like to add my voice to those who have already praised your work. I
have long enjoyed your flawless performances on YouTube, and I am amazed
that you get such a warm, mellow tone from synthetics. Great work! I hope
that you are back on the baroque list as well.
Best regards,
I agree Stephan
Valery, i hope you''ll decide giving concert in major venues : you desrve
it, not to mention all concert goers longing for a true musician!
Igor
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings
I agree Stephan
Valery, i hope you''ll decide giving concert in major venues : you desrve
it, not to mention
Dear Valéry,
Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so many
of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this
machine. Which settings did you use? What was the recording distance?
Wonderful to hear you play with the better sound quality than on
moin valery,
very good playing and recording!
it seems to me, that we have now a little zoom H2 group here.
the quality of the recorded lute sound is amazingly.
greetings
wolfgang
p.s. i used the zoom h2 for our players meeting in hamburg last weekend.
in 120° option i recorded voices, lutes,
Beautiful sound, Valéry! What exactly are you using?
On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Valéry Sauvage wrote:
Hello,
Back on this list...
I'd like to present some recordings I made with my brand new zoom
h2...
(nice machine !)
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/luthval/musiques/packington.mp3
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916
On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
Dear Valéry,
Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so
many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with
this machine. Which settings
I've been thinking about getting a Zoom H2 - does anyone know how
they work with Macs?
Thanks
Andrew
On 29 Feb 2008, at 09:19, wolfgang wiehe wrote:
moin valery,
very good playing and recording!
it seems to me, that we have now a little zoom H2 group here.
the quality of the recorded lute
Hi,
I use some standart settings on the h2, as I receive it yesterday at 3pm and
recorded at 4...
So front mic, stereo, mic level at H, wave format, about arm lenght distance
(to switch on and off the machine without having to move from the chair...)
I'll try some other settings when I read the
This article seems the best review I have seen, with clear explanations
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2007/09/13/
review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder.html?page=1
This one has recorded examples
http://www.audiotranskription.de/english/interviews-en/zoom-h2/zoom-
h2.html
I bought mine in a german online store for 199€ all inclusive.
www.musik-produktiv.com
Greetings
wolfgang
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inclusive.
www.musik-produktiv.com
Greetings
wolfgang
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there are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should
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