[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-17 Thread David Tayler
Whole takes have edits :) What would be fun is to release ALL the takes. That would be cool. Having worked on a number of live, unedited recordings, I can say that they are mostly not unedited. Even taking whole phrases, or even pieces, is still some editing, but these unspecified ones had

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-17 Thread David Tayler
Release it as a DVD! I'll lend you a camera! best dt At 02:07 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote: Passion is a delicious fruit too, David ;-) ! I agree with you and I also deplore the standardization of lute sound in recent recordings. But H2s or equivalent devices can be very useful, impartial tools to

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-17 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, These are topics close to my heart at the moment, having started to make simple MP3 recordings for my website. So far, my efforts are all essentially single takes, though in a couple of cases with a kind of join in the middle. It is so hard to play a complete piece without a

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-17 Thread Anthony Hind
David, Jean-Marie et les autres There is another side to this question. Jacob Heringman speaks about it on his interview with Ed Durbrow, and also on his home site. He is often not happy with his recordings, he feels that he over monitors his playing in the recording context (he is too

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-17 Thread Anthony Hind
I work a lot with a particular singer who responds very well to audiences, and the audiences to him. Studio recordings with him tend to be a lot safer and therefore blander. For our next cd, we've done three studio edited recordings together so far, I've talked him into a live recording.

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Jarosław Lipski
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:26 PM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the sound and the easy volume changes

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-16 Thread David Tayler
I don't think EQ will do it, the free room simulator software or the more expensive professional versions help a little bit, but once you lose the essential harmonics it is difficult to replace them. When using budget mics, the main thing is minimize the reflections. So here you need a really

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Anthony Hind
David, your comparison of the digital camera and the digital recorder are helpful, although I am not technologically competent enough to say just how far you can go in that direction. Evidently, the lens or microphone set the overall limit in recording quality, whatever equipment comes

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Passion is a delicious fruit too, David ;-) ! I agree with you and I also deplore the standardization of lute sound in recent recordings. But H2s or equivalent devices can be very useful, impartial tools to work with, certainly NOT to make a Cd !!! I am preparing to do a recording next summer

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Edward Martin
This is fascinating, in that the topic of recordings is coming up, in particular with lack of editing. Toyohiko Satoh just released a new CD, music of Phillip Franz LeSage de Richee, on a period instrument, in a.. plain gut, no edits, complete whole takes. It is refreshing, to say the

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread dc
Warmest thanks, David, for all the detailed explanations. Much appreciated by the dummy I am! In this case, you will want 48/24 unless you wish to make a CD recording, for that you need 44.1/24. Does this mean that one can only burn this type of file to an audio CD? Thanks again! Dennis

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
CDs are 44.1/16 bit, and 44.1 is a bad fraction. In converting 44.1/24 to CD, the music is organized into blocks, and the extra bits are tossed (remember that they can be used for gain), but if you record at 44.1 you then can get almost exactly that info onto the CD. If you record at 48, you

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread dc
Thanks, David, for all the further information. Very helpful! For $100 or less you can get a sound card for a laptop or PC that has exceptional sound. Do you have any specific recommendations? Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Hi David, I thought that one benefits in high resolution recording because there is some room left for mastering like reverb etc...so that we don't loose quality in the end. Obviously this is more important when we deal with rock or pop music where we have lots of effects involved, but still

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the sound and the easy volume changes. When presented with the long list of choices, unless disk space is really an issue, you are looking at 44/24 for CD, 48/24

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread Peter Martin
I wish I could understand any of this.. P : ) On 15/03/2008, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, yes, it is better to have more bits. I'm just saying the primary advantage, one of many, for the 24 bits is the depth of the sound and the easy volume changes. When presented

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
Sorry... When you buy a flash audio recorder--a great teaching/learning tool-- you have to decide in the settings how much resolution to use. There's lots of settings, and the manufacturers are not helpful. The bits is like (but not exactly like) the number of megapixels on a camera, more

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-14 Thread dc
Hi folks, Martin Shepherd wrote: here are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this machine. Which settings did you use? I just got mine and have been playing around with it instead of working. I'm rather impressed with the quality of the out-of-the-box

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-14 Thread David Tayler
The simple answer is that it depends on what you will do with the recording. All converters are tweaked a bit to favor a particular notch. However, unless you will be using the zoom professionally, your concerns will be the final format. In this case, you will want 48/24 unless you wish to make

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings and esnips

2008-03-05 Thread wolfgang wiehe
hello, seems to me, that esnips solved the problem. my folder lautenklang works again in firefox. http://www.esnips.com/web/lautenklang greetings wolfgang To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-03 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: ...Gesture is important in all music, be it blues, jazz, or French Baroque, and I feel that composers did not notate it simply because it was hard to capture on paper without performers making it sound too automated, Much like swing in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-02 Thread Stephen Arndt
, Stephen Arndt - Original Message - From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: baroque Lutelist baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings After a short discussion with Stephen Arndt and with his consent, here's

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-02 Thread Rob MacKillop
VERY nice, Mathias. Beautiful tone, the bass especially. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-02 Thread igor .
F A N T A S T I C ! you and Valerie are my favorite ! respect -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread The Other
Andrew Gibbs wrote: I've been thinking about getting a Zoom H2 - does anyone know how they work with Macs? Thanks Andrew The manual says PC and Mac supported. There is a operating system update to version 1.20 at the Zoom site. The major update is for the USB card reader support under Mac

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread The Other
Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear Valéry, Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this machine. Which settings did you use? What was the recording distance? Wonderful to hear you play with the better

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread igor .
Fantastic Valery ! I can say , you are one of the best luthistes i ever heard ! probably the best at the moment -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread Stephen Arndt
Valéry, I would like to add my voice to those who have already praised your work. I have long enjoyed your flawless performances on YouTube, and I am amazed that you get such a warm, mellow tone from synthetics. Great work! I hope that you are back on the baroque list as well. Best regards,

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread igor .
I agree Stephan Valery, i hope you''ll decide giving concert in major venues : you desrve it, not to mention all concert goers longing for a true musician! Igor -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-01 Thread Valéry Sauvage
. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Valéry Sauvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings I agree Stephan Valery, i hope you''ll decide giving concert in major venues : you desrve it, not to mention

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Valéry, Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this machine. Which settings did you use? What was the recording distance? Wonderful to hear you play with the better sound quality than on

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread wolfgang wiehe
moin valery, very good playing and recording! it seems to me, that we have now a little zoom H2 group here. the quality of the recorded lute sound is amazingly. greetings wolfgang p.s. i used the zoom h2 for our players meeting in hamburg last weekend. in 120° option i recorded voices, lutes,

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Doc Rossi
Beautiful sound, Valéry! What exactly are you using? On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Valéry Sauvage wrote: Hello, Back on this list... I'd like to present some recordings I made with my brand new zoom h2... (nice machine !) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/luthval/musiques/packington.mp3

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Doc Rossi
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916 On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear Valéry, Excellent! Good to see you on this list again - there are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should share our experiences with this machine. Which settings

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Andrew Gibbs
I've been thinking about getting a Zoom H2 - does anyone know how they work with Macs? Thanks Andrew On 29 Feb 2008, at 09:19, wolfgang wiehe wrote: moin valery, very good playing and recording! it seems to me, that we have now a little zoom H2 group here. the quality of the recorded lute

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Valéry Sauvage
Hi, I use some standart settings on the h2, as I receive it yesterday at 3pm and recorded at 4... So front mic, stereo, mic level at H, wave format, about arm lenght distance (to switch on and off the machine without having to move from the chair...) I'll try some other settings when I read the

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread Anthony Hind
This article seems the best review I have seen, with clear explanations http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2007/09/13/ review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder.html?page=1 This one has recorded examples http://www.audiotranskription.de/english/interviews-en/zoom-h2/zoom- h2.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread wolfgang wiehe
I bought mine in a german online store for 199€ all inclusive. www.musik-produktiv.com Greetings wolfgang -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: dc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 12:43 An: Lute Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings Martin Shepherd écrit

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-02-29 Thread lautenist
inclusive. www.musik-produktiv.com Greetings wolfgang -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: dc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 12:43 An: Lute Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings Martin Shepherd écrit: there are now so many of us with the Zoom H2 we should