Re: Jperl is bad name -;

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Ward
What does it do that is different from the existing JavaScript modules? Maybe you can build on top of one of those? On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Jean-Damien Durand jeandamiendur...@free.fr wrote: Big thanks for all the suggestions! Let me reply to the original mail directly. I liked -

Re: please help me name a module

2013-09-12 Thread Bill Ward
I'd suggest Vehicle instead of Car since future instances might be trucks, vans, motorcycles, etc. Sent from my phone (sorry if my reply is brief, ask me again when I'm at a real keyboard) On Sep 12, 2013 1:47 AM, Aaron Trevena aaron.trev...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 September 2013 07:58,

Re: please help me name a module

2013-09-12 Thread Bill Ward
automatic, not automobile. Also, I would suggest including the ::ModelS, as it's entirely possible that Tesla will release budget modules in future which won't support all the cool stuff. Bill Ward writes: I'd suggest Vehicle instead of Car since future instances might be trucks

Re: please help me name a module

2013-09-12 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Greg Lindahl lind...@pbm.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 05:38:00PM +0100, Smylers wrote: How about Vehicle::Tesla::ModelS then? Does putting Device:: in front of that lot actually add anything, other than to the unwieldiness of the name? Vehicle::

Re: What to call a module that rewrites Perl code

2013-08-31 Thread Bill Ward
Is it truly only ever going to work on Perl code? Mightn't it also be pluginnable to rewrite other kinds of files? On Friday, August 30, 2013, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 06:11:03 +0100 Robert Rothenberg r...@cpan.org javascript:; wrote: At $work, I've been writing scripts that

Re: Namespace for Module Wrapping iTunes' Store Executable

2013-06-25 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote: Net::iTMS No, for the well-known reasons. What well-known reasons? -- Check out my LEGO blog at brickpile.com http://www.brickpile.com/ Follow/friend me: Facebook http://facebook.com/billward •

Re: Namespace for Module Wrapping iTunes' Store Executable

2013-06-25 Thread Bill Ward
Thanks On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote: http://pause.perl.org/pause/query?ACTION=pause_namingmodules#Net -- Check out my LEGO blog at brickpile.com http://www.brickpile.com/ Follow/friend me: Facebook http://facebook.com/billward •

Re: removal request - Sys::UniqueID

2012-05-02 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Daniel Lukasiak est...@estrai.com wrote: On 02/05/12 00:49, Todd Rinaldo wrote: On May 1, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 wrote: If removal isn't possible is there any other mechanism (forced depreciation?) that can be used? You could take it over and

Re: Changing module name

2012-04-09 Thread Bill Ward
I think the easiest solution is to create a new module with the new name, and refactor the old one to use it... so Plack::Middleware::Auth::Form would still exist as a consumer of the new module, and perhaps there are some Plack-specific things that it might add to the inherited object, especially

Re: Seeking advice on module name: Config::CPP?

2012-03-23 Thread Bill Ward
Consider CPP::Config? On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, David Oswald daosw...@gmail.com wrote: I maintain Inline::CPP. Currently that module's Makefile.PL jumps through a bunch of hoops to detect the C++ compiler most compatible with the C compiler that built perl, and to detect what default

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Bill Ward writes: File::RegexMatch? I think having ::Find:: in there would be better, so that it's immediately obvious that this module performs a similar task to the other modules already named like that. File::Find

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Bill Ward writes: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Bill Ward writes: File::RegexMatch? I think having ::Find:: in there would be better, so that it's immediately obvious

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-13 Thread Bill Ward
File::RegexMatch? On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:21 AM, ll...@singletasker.co.uk wrote: Hi there, I'm close to completing a module, but I'm pretty clueless on what to call it. The purpose of the module is to find files which match a regular expression. The module currently only has one

Re: Module naming: postifx/dovecot/MySQL configuration

2011-12-13 Thread Bill Ward
Mail::Postfixadmin seems fine to me On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote: Hi, I've been working on a module which basically makes it easy to write command-line tools for interacting with a postfixadmin[0] installation, that is a Postfix/Dovecot mail server with

Re: The module authors pledge

2011-11-11 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM, yan...@babyl.dyndns.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:27:04PM +, Neil Bowers wrote: Interesting thought. How about: - if a distribution author appears to be inactive, then the author would receive an email to their registered CPAN

Re: The module authors pledge

2011-11-10 Thread Bill Ward
I think the Should I die (though I think in the event of my death would be better) can only really work if a family member replies to the email saying that the maintainer has passed away, which isn't too likely but could happen. Since those time limits would expire eventually anyway, it's probably

Re: Math::BigInt inheritance problems

2011-10-10 Thread Bill Ward
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Paul Bennett paul.w.benn...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:34:46 -0400, Leon Timmermans faw...@gmail.com wrote: I think the obvious mistake you're making is using inheritance in the first place. Why are you doing that? Your interface is not «an IP

Re: Math::BigInt inheritance problems

2011-10-10 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Paul Bennett paul.w.benn...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:30:22 -0400, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Paul Bennett paul.w.benn...@gmail.com** wrote: Ah, but an IP address *is* really a number. An unsigned 128-bit

Re: PDF in Marpa::XS distribution?

2011-07-18 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Andreas J. Koenig andreas.koenig.7os6v...@franz.ak.mind.de wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:43:01 -0700, Jeffrey Kegler jeffreykeg...@mac.com said: I'd like feedback on a question. My feeling is that internals documentation is important, that disk is

Re: Need suggestions for a module name

2011-06-18 Thread Bill Ward
It's not really that high level or specialized. It's just a matter of updating how the file name is generated. I could easily see it going either way. If you do go with a separate module, the interface should be the same (with whatever added options needed to add the new features) as File::Temp,

Re: Need suggestions for a module name

2011-06-18 Thread Bill Ward
, necessarily. File::Temp only manages single temp files or directories in isolation, whereas my module manages a set of them with logs about how they were created. On 18 Jun 2011 23:44, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: It's not really that high level or specialized. It's just a matter of updating

Re: Interesting licensing requires written permission of the author to modify it

2011-03-14 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I found a module on CPAN http://search.cpan.org/~goyali/google_talk_bot_v_01/ with the following comment regarding licensing: You are not

Re: Module Naming Suggestion - Carp from somewhere else

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Ward
Have you talked to the maintainer of Carp about this? It might be best to just suggest it as a new feature in Carp itself. Otherwise, Carp::Whence or something might seem reasonable to me. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.ukwrote: (To copypaste

Re: best practices for module renaming

2011-02-07 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Dave Rolsky auta...@urth.org wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Xavier Noria wrote: Hi, I am the author of Net::FluidDB, which let's you talk to FluidDB. FluidDB has been renamed to Fluidinfo, and I should rename the module in accordance. Is there a recommended way

Re: Setting an environment variable for tests

2010-12-17 Thread Bill Ward
But the question is having the command be interpreted by make, not by the shell, right? On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Andrew Savige ajsav...@yahoo.com.auwrote: I don't know Module::Install, but a more portable Unix way to write: export MATH_ROUND_FAIR_DEBUG=1 is:

Re: Discussion question: what is the best syntax for documenting a coderef parameter?

2010-12-07 Thread Bill Ward
I would have just said $retry and then gone on to document each of the parameters including what type they should be... and of course a croak XXX unless ref($retry) eq 'CODE' before doing any real work. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:12 PM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com wrote: The pod for

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-12-01 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Lyle webmas...@cosmicperl.com wrote: I wasn't *shitting* as you put it, on other peoples work. At least no more so than Bill's original comment about Perl 6. I expressed my opinion only

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-11-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Chris Dolan ch...@chrisdolan.net wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Bill Ward wrote: What hurts me is that Perl has fallen out of favor so much ... I'm contemplating jumping ship myself, and moving to Ruby or Python, not because of anything intrinsic

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-11-29 Thread Bill Ward
What hurts me is that Perl has fallen out of favor so much ... I'm contemplating jumping ship myself, and moving to Ruby or Python, not because of anything intrinsic to the language but just because Perl is going the way of Cobol or Fortran. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Gabor Szabo

Re: Naming a module: Non bioperl related Taxonomy modules

2010-11-04 Thread Bill Ward
I think if you put it under Bio:: then people will naturally assume that your modules are bioperl-related. Probably a different top level name is appropriate, maybe something starting with Bio. 2010/11/4 Miguel Pignatelli pignatelli_...@gva.es Dear all, I have written a small set of modules

Re: Naming a module: Non bioperl related Taxonomy modules

2010-11-04 Thread Bill Ward
, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: I think if you put it under Bio:: then people will naturally assume that your modules are bioperl-related. Probably a different top level name is appropriate, maybe something starting with Bio. 2010/11/4 Miguel Pignatelli pignatelli_...@gva.es Dear all, I

Re: Module naming - Test::Import::DontRun

2010-10-07 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Paul Johnson p...@pjcj.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:36:41PM +0100, Charles Colbourn wrote: Test::Include::DontRun I'll just point out that any name which includes DontRun rather than Don't::Run has sold its soul and should probably start with

Re: my $self = shift

2010-09-18 Thread Bill Ward
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.comwrote: On 10-09-12 04:58 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Shawn H Coreyshawnhco...@gmail.com [2010-09-10 14:30]: On 10-09-10 03:02 AM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: sub foo { my $self = shift; my $self = shift @_;

Re: Please advise before I submit to CPAN

2010-09-10 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.ukwrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:37:43PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: Yes, but doing so is naughty. Really? Howso? I ask because I do it in a module of mine. http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/PEVANS/IO-Async-0.29/lib/IO

Re: Storable Stream - Module namespace help

2010-08-09 Thread Bill Ward
Does it actually use the Storable format/algorithm or are you using storable in a more generic sense of the word? If the latter, I'd avoid using it in the name of your module to avoid confusion. On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Marco Neves [ModAuthors] perl-module-auth...@knowhunter.cjb.net

Re: The CPAN Definitive Tags Spec

2010-08-06 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: On 08/06/2010 10:58:02 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! Today I converted the Definitive Tags list to a POD-based spec. One can find it inside a Mercurial repository here:

Re: pause.perl.org: cert expired

2010-05-15 Thread Bill Ward
Maybe a few days ago was before the new certificate was installed, and you had told your browser to save the exception for the old one, so you didn't see it before. 2010/5/15 p...@0ne.us p...@0ne.us I swear that a few days ago I got on pause to upload a dist and didn't see that warning then

Re: Goodbye Perl6::Say

2010-04-15 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: On Thu, April 15, 2010 4:09 pm, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Honestly, if you're setting up a blank machine next week with less than 5.10, not finding Perl6::Say in the index is going to be the least of your problems anyway. But

Re: Trimming the CPAN

2010-03-26 Thread Bill Ward
Also, see if the list of big files correlates to old versions when there are newer versions available -- one large distro with a huge archive of back versions could easily tip the scales. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: Some people are more space conscious

Re: Module uploaded - whats next?

2009-12-04 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Arthur Corliss corl...@digitalmages.com wrote: On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Dave Rolsky wrote: The idea that you couldn't learn the basics of Catalyst and get things running in the same time seems unlikely. Also, you haven't factored in all the time it's going to take

Re: Problems with Date::Manip

2009-11-24 Thread Bill Ward
I haven't taken a look any deeper than reading this email but the first thing that jumps to mind would be something to do with list vs. scalar context... perhaps the new Date::Manip is returning a list, and you're assigning it to a scalar? On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Rene Schickbauer

Re: Weekend entertainment

2009-11-17 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 15, 2009, at 18:45 , David Golden wrote: E.g. from his site today: You might be a redneck if your Christmas ornaments are made out of spent shot-gun shells. (And maybe I'm guilty of stereotyping, but I suspect

Re: Term::Info - takeover

2009-09-24 Thread Bill Ward
Oh, sorry. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Fayland Lam fayl...@gmail.com wrote: I think you forget to CC the list. :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Bill Ward b...@wards.net Date: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Term::Info - takeover To: Fayland Lam fayl

Re: how to set $VERSION throughout distribution

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Ward
Subversion is more like mercurial/git in that sense - versions go by changesets rather than individual files. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Dana Hudes dhu...@hudes.org wrote: Quite simply you are stuck in the concept of tracking files a la sccs/rcs/cvs/svn. 3rd generation VCS doesn't track

Re: gentle nudgings about upgrading your tools

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Eric Wilhelmenoba...@gmail.com wrote: # from David Cantrell # on Friday 28 August 2009 04:10: I guess maybe.  It still seems arbitrary, and my point was that it is a workaround to the fact that it's currently difficult for a module to do the right thing to

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-25 Thread Bill Ward
Do I understand this right? If a tar file contains a directory with permissions 777 - as would be likely to happen if it was made on Windows - then PAUSE rejects it? Why doesn't PAUSE just modify the permissions in the tarfile and publish the resulting file?

Re: Suggested module name

2009-07-10 Thread Bill Ward
That name works for me. I trust you have sub-classes for each OS and/or window manager you support? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Ivan Wills ivan.wi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a new module that provides a simple way to run functions when the screen saver starts/stops (X11 or Gnome

Re: module/script to clean up old files and prune empty directories

2009-07-01 Thread Bill Ward
File::Find can be used to write such a script, but doesn't by itself address this issue. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Dana Hudes dhu...@hudes.org wrote: File::Find::Perl --Original Message-- From: Jonathan Swartz To: module-authors@perl.org Sent: Jun 30, 2009 7:59 PM Subject:

Re: module/script to clean up old files and prune empty directories

2009-06-30 Thread Bill Ward
I want it, whether it is already extant or you write it... On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jonathan Swartz swa...@pobox.com wrote: At various places around our system we want to clean up files older than x, and sometimes prune empty directories. Naturally we have to be careful doing this

lexical warnings question

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Ward
In the perllexwarn man page, it states that the scope of the warning pragma is limited to the enclosing block. It also means that the pragma setting will not leak across files (via use, require or do). This allows authors to independently define the degree of warning checks that will be applied to

Re: lexical warnings question

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Hans Dieter Pearceyhdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 02:39:21PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: So, do I need to monkey with $SIG{__DIE__} or something? $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { die @_ }; Apply more advanced filtering to @_ as desired

Re: lexical warnings question

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Hans Dieter Pearceyhdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 02:49:36PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: Arg, I meant to say $SIG{__WARN__} when I wrote the original message... sorry.  I was hoping to avoid that, since I think we are already

Re: lexical warnings question

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Ovidpubliustemp-moduleautho...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 02:39:21PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: So, do I need to monkey with $SIG{__DIE__} or something

Re: Module::Build + documenation woes

2009-06-11 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Ovid publiustemp-moduleautho...@yahoo.comwrote: What would be nice if if the main documentation ( http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Build/lib/Module/Build.pm) had, right at the top, sample Build.PL code in the synopsis. After that, maybe a few optional

Re: Process for Removing Qt Module from CPAN

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Ward
It also makes it easier to inherit the constructor when subclassing the module. I would suggest that Perl modules should be done the Perl way, rather than by importing ideas from other languages. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.comwrote: Chris: I'm not sure

Re: Process for Removing Qt Module from CPAN

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:56:10PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of May 26, 2009 12:33:08 PM -0700, Bill Ward is alleged to have said: How would you feel about ref($foo)-new

Help needed testing security of login module

2009-05-20 Thread Bill Ward
Over the years I've developed my own private Perl web login module. It takes a username or email address and password, checks it against the database, and creates the cookies. It has a 'forgot my password' option which is reasonably secure (of course it assumes that the email address of record

Re: Help needed testing security of login module

2009-05-20 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.comwrote: Bill: To clarify why a salt is necessary, consider the classic time-space tradeoff. Let's say I know that your password is exactly 8 characters long and I know all of the possible characters it could be. So let's say

Re: Help needed testing security of login module

2009-05-20 Thread Bill Ward
stored on your server in the passworded area that they want to get to. Never hurts to fix those things, really. It doesn't negatively impact performance in a noticeable way, and the security benefits dramatically outweigh the costs. Cheers, Jonathan On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Bill Ward b

Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-11 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Elaine Ashton eash...@mac.com wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, David Golden wrote: I don't object to you being busy -- it happens to all of us -- but blaming others for not trying hard enough is absurd. You probably aren't in the middle of a trans-con

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Ward
Do you mean Parse::Method::Signatures ? On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, breno oainikus...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: Params::Validate has the right features, but I really don't like the verbosity of its configuration. I was hoping

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, breno oainikus...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: Do you mean Parse::Method::Signatures ? No, I mean http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Method::Signatures http://www.slideshare.net/schwern/methodsignatures

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 07:10:49AM -0400, David Golden wrote: I don't think he deserves public scorn in response to a reasonable question and reasonable objections to suggestions. I agree about

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Jonathan Leto jal...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Thanks guys for sticking up for me. I am just old-fashioned, I guess; for better or for worse, I'm not interested in changing/fixing Perl itself, just in finding writing reusable code that meets my needs

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.ukwrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 11:27:05 -0700 Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: (Perl's approximation of) OO I've often seen this one bandied about, and I can't say I agree with it. Neither do I, but I threw

Re: Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:02 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.ukwrote: On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 12:23:27PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andy Armstrong a...@hexten.net wrote: On 3 May 2009, at 20:07, Bill Ward wrote: For my module Number::Format I am getting

Re: Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
Thanks David. This is a nice module, but overkill for my needs and I'd rather not make people install more CPAN modules than they have to. Looks like the key thing is this line: $ok = abs($p - $q) $epsilon; I'll incorporate that bit into my test suite for Number::Format. On Tue, May

Re: Dual-Build Modules (What to do if both Makefile.PL and Build.PL exist)

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
The way I've interpreted that in my own auto-build scripting is that if Build.PL exists, the module author is probably a Module::Build user who is only providing a Makefile.PL grudgingly for the sake of those who haven't installed Module::Build, and thus I figure that if there's any difference

Arguments checker module

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
Is anyone aware of any modules that will check subroutine arguments? I can think of two similar features of Perl, but neither is quite right: 1. Prototypes (perlsyn) - put something like ($$@) after your subroutine declaration - but doesn't work for object methods and a few other cases. Plus,

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:51:09PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: I'm often having to add a half dozen lines of code to every subroutine to perform argument validation and I'd like to offload it once

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Dave Rolsky auta...@urth.org wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009, Bill Ward wrote: I'm often having to add a half dozen lines of code to every subroutine to perform argument validation and I'd like to offload it once and for all into a CPAN module. Has anyone written

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-05 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:04:35PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote: I'm not interested in being locked-in to a framework like Moose, so I won't even consider those. http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky

Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-03 Thread Bill Ward
For my module Number::Format I am getting a strange result from cpan testers that I can't replicate. See this error report... http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/03/msg3560533.html # Failed test 'pi with precision=6' # at t/round.t line 18. # got: 3.141593 #

Re: Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-03 Thread Bill Ward
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andy Armstrong a...@hexten.net wrote: On 3 May 2009, at 20:07, Bill Ward wrote: For my module Number::Format I am getting a strange result from cpan testers that I can't replicate. See this error report... http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers

Re: Configuration files and ExtUtils::MakeMaker

2009-04-28 Thread Bill Ward
For this kind of thing I usually copy the Config.pm generated by Perl or the CPAN::Config module -- create a MyModule::Config file that defines a hash %MyModule::Config with all my stuff in it. The script can then just use MyModule::Config and off you go. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bill

Re: Naming advice for retry manager module

2009-04-21 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:12 PM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: Something like Object::Retry maybe?  Then things can inherit from it? The proposed module sounds more like a has-a than an is-a.  Or maybe just a new

Re: a lot of controversy about Module::Build

2009-04-09 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us wrote: Most people I know compile one perl for each of their applications. The OS perl is for the OS, not for you. (OK, and packages the OS installs. Basically, if you plan on modifying anything perl touches in any way, you

Re: a lot of controversy about Module::Build

2009-04-09 Thread Bill Ward
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us wrote: * On Thu, Apr 09 2009, Bill Ward wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us wrote: Most people I know compile one perl for each of their applications. The OS perl is for the OS

Re: a lot of controversy about Module::Build

2009-04-08 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:55:44PM +0300, Burak Gürsoy wrote: I think M::B has a clean and understandable interface while EU::MM is archaic (yes I know I didn't say something new). Any current

Re: RFC: Yet Another Excel Writer..

2009-04-08 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:36 AM, sawyer x xsawy...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like a good module to me. I know I could have used it a few weeks ago. If so, is this set of modules aptly named? - Does it use a standard CPAN module for email sending? - What does it use for formating to web? If

Re: Net::Vimeo::API - namespace question

2009-03-10 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:23 AM, David Golden da...@hyperbolic.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: WWW::Vimeo. That would be my choice. Adding API seems redundant. I agree about dropping API, but prefer Net. WWW to me suggests web

Re: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: # from Joshua ben Jore # on Monday 02 March 2009 08:20: If you redesigned, replacing your hash with an array would be harder to typo, faster, smaller, not as nice to dump with Dumper, and harder for 3rd parties to

Re: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Ward
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:23:38AM -0800, Bill Ward wrote: Personally I always use hashes for objects. Hashes are pretty fast in Perl, especially when there aren't many keys, so I don't think the benefits of using

Re: ARGH! (was FW: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references)

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Ward
be avoided. ... is prominently displayed in the module. Thanks! Roger -Original Message- From: Bill Ward [mailto:b...@wards.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:11 AM To: raha...@ualr.edu Subject: Re: ARGH! (was FW: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references) What

Re: ARGH! (was FW: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references)

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jonas Brømsø Nielsen jona...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Roger, How do you perform your perlcritic runs? I can recommend the verbosity setting 8 perlcritic --verbose 8 This gives you quite friendly policy identifiers

Re: ARGH! (was FW: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references)

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Ward
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Curtis Jewell perl.module-auth...@csjewell.fastmail.us wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:03 +, Ezra Cooper e...@ezrakilty.net wrote: On Feb 18, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Bill Ward wrote: Still, that's bogus for ordinary hashes... it should only care about

Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Ward
, Jonathan On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: I sent mail to the author of HTML::Detoxifier but it bounced. Does anyone here have any suggestions for XSS-killers in Perl? -- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-dae

Re: Name for barcode-reading module?

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Ward
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Keith Ivey ke...@iveys.org wrote: Okay, it seems like Barcode is the best namespace for it. As Bill says, the module is essentially OCR for barcodes, so if there were a good space for OCR-related modules it might fit there, but there doesn't seem to be one.

Re: autoabbrev algorithm from Getopt::Long

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Darren Chamberlain d...@sevenroot.orgwrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:05, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: I could just extract the code from Getopt::Long but I think it would be a useful thing to have as a CPAN module... No problem with that,

Module::Build equivalent to MakeMaker's LIB= argument?

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Ward
I'm building a tech stack - that is, downloading CPAN modules and installing them in a new directory, not the one that Perl lives in. Until now, all the modules I build are MakeMaker-based, but I've just started adding a new Module::Build-based module (Net::OAuth, in case you're curious) and am

Re: Module::Build equivalent to MakeMaker's LIB= argument?

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Eric Wilhelm scratchcomput...@gmail.comwrote: # from Bill Ward # on Friday 13 February 2009 12:22: it can't find Module::Build! I suppose I could use perl -I or PERL5LIB to specify the path, but I was looking for something analagous to the LIB= argument

Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Ward
::Detoxifier From: Bill Ward b...@wards.net To: Patrick Walton pwal...@metajournal.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c599f30f35870462d42521 --001636c599f30f35870462d42521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed you have posted HTML

Re: Name for barcode-reading module?

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Ward
As the author of Barcode::Code128 (though I haven't done anything with barcodes in many years) I don't see anything wrong with the Barcode namespace. I think it predates the others, but I'm too lazy to dig up the dates on each. Anyway, I think filing it under Business is silly, since there are

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:57:42 -0800 Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: Why just strings? Why not scalars? Because only strings have character positions. Perhaps the description isn't clear enough - the string

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:15:35AM -0600, Jonathan Rockway wrote: * On Fri, Jan 30 2009, Bill Ward wrote: I agree here. There is prior art for calling these overlays: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:11:33AM -0800, Bill Ward wrote: String::Overlay String::Overlaid String::Overlays I think Overlain may be more grammatical than Overlaid Overlaid, Overlain... One of those

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:00:13PM -0600, David Nicol wrote: there is also intersection with the concept of ropes rather than strings as I

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Bill Ward
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:00:13PM -0600, David Nicol wrote

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-29 Thread Bill Ward
Why just strings? Why not scalars? On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: I find myself requiring an object to store a text string, with ways to throw markup or presentation attributes around it, but in such a way that they're easy to edit and change

Number::Format and locale woes

2009-01-26 Thread Bill Ward
WHEREAS, Number::Format uses POSIX for locale stuff, and WHEREAS, locale is b0rked on so many systems out there, and WHEREAS, Number::Format is constantly getting barraged by bug complaints and CPAN build failure emails, and WHEREAS, I'm getting tired of the above and can't do much about it,

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