Mike Nelson wrote:
There is no excuse. Social workers and other euphorian types can make
all the excuses for people they want to, but the fact remains,it's
stupid, wrong, and disgusting.
WM: An observation, (i.e. 'I've noticed people litter) connected with a
reason of how this observation might
This is quite an observation!
On Friday, April 16, 2004, at 02:51 PM, WizardMarks wrote:
All of us who live in this general area (So. Phillips, Central,
Powderhorn, Corcoran) have worked our fannies off to change this stuff
for a very long time.
Another observation: gangbangers throw litter to
There is no excuse. Social workers and other euphorian types can make
all the excuses for people they want to, but the fact remains,it's
stupid, wrong, and disgusting.
I just pick the stuff up, and if I'm in a snotty mood, say thank you
as I am picking it up behind the person.
If I'm on my bike
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, at 02:20 PM, WizardMarks wrote:
For the very poor, totally dissed population, refusing to comply is
their only power--the power to say no to social constraints. It's not
poor upbringing so much as bitterness, bone deep fatigue, and an
exercise of the only power
Just left the house of a very dear friend and neighbor of mine. She was one
of the driving forces behind getting (and keeping) the jordan garden.
She's been a resident in jordan for roughly 19 years now and ALWAYS gives
more of herself to the community than any other 10 people I know. More
Jeff Rosenberg wrote:
Mr. Searles wrote:
Excuses, excuses, excuses. There is no sense of personal responsibility.
Minneapolis will continue to degrade if this is this prevailing attitude.
Since when is trying to put a finger on the problem an excuse? It's only an
excuse if we say well, it's
Tom Searles wrote:
People litter because they neither care about, nor respect anyone else. There's nothing complex about it.
WM: People littler because they neither care about, nor respect
themselves. What's complex is figuring out how to make a change.
WizardMarks, Central
Brian Fesler wrote:
Litter is sort of a small issue compared to acts of violence, theft,
property damage etc. But it is a good start. Tackling that is probably
good practice for taking on the larger issues and really cleaning up our
town.
I agree with both of your points, Brian -- it is a
Jeff Rosenberg writes:
The big question to me is, how do we make people proud of our city? I'm
proud to live here, and I want to do everything I can to make it better.
...What would make these people care for their environment.
An example:
Some time ago, way back when the buses were running, I
Tossing bottles, cans, wrappings and other trash on the street and sidewalk
is, I believe, a sign of poor upbringing and poor education. It's a
reflection on parents, teachers and society-- where 'being a slob' is too
readily tolerated. It's the 'me' generation, with their 'get outta my face'
problems.
Tom Searles
Waconia, Twp.
Husband of a teacher who keeps her classroom under control.
- Original Message -
From: Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jeff Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Tossing bottles
Michael Hohmann wrote:
Tossing bottles, cans, wrappings and other trash on the street and sidewalk
is, I believe, a sign of poor upbringing and poor education. It's a
reflection on parents, teachers and society-- where 'being a slob' is too
readily tolerated. It's the 'me' generation, with
Excuses, excuses, excuses. There is no sense of personal responsibility.
Minneapolis will continue to degrade if this is this prevailing attitude.
Tom Searles
Watching from the sidelines in Waconia Twp.
WM: I think you've misinterpreted the whole phenomenon. For the very
poor, totally dissed
Of Thomas Searles
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Tossing bottles/broken glass
Teachers? You're blaming teachers for kids being slobs? Is that
part of the
curriculum in the Minneapolis School District? You should have stopped at
'poor upbringing
On Tuesday, April 6, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Emilie Quast wrote:
To state what worries me, in the boulevards broken glass is a hazard
to my
feet in sandals and to my dog's footpads, and ditto for passers-by.
In
the front lawn and boulevards, we have a potentially lethal missle if
glass
isn't
I live on busy Johnson Street in Northeast. There is a constant flow of
litter that collects in my yard. I pick it up when I see it which is all I
can really do. Every spring and fall we have the Weed It and Reap which is a
neighborhood clean-up that encourages everyone to do some tidying. iT
The big question to me is, how do we make people proud of our city? I'm
proud to live here, and I want to do everything I can to make it better.
There are those, however, who simply do not (I must add here that, although
I hate to say it, the problem to me seems to mostly be students. Being a
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