Re: Pentax *ist-Ds Blues
I'll try the Alkalines, I have a pretty good supply of those for flashes and such. On 10/10/2014 1:51 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Try another set of batteries first, the internal resistance of he lithiums may be out of spec so they die under load? On 10 October 2014 14:30, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to take a few night photos in a location where I didn't want to risk the K-5II or even the K20D, so I put a set new of Litniam disposables into the old *ist-Ds. Well the damned camera won't turn on. Tested the batteries and all were with specification for the camera to turn on. Cleaned the battery contacts, (using a rubber eraser), still no joy. Dragged out the external power supply, plugged it in and into the camera, it comes right on. Last time I used it it worked fine with disposable lithiums. This is quite annoying. The only reason that I kept the camera was for just this occasion, it's not economically repairable, and hell I could buy a K-7 or another K20D for 200-300 dollars. End of Rant. You can now return to your regularly scheduled conversations. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax *ist-Ds Blues
I was going to take a few night photos in a location where I didn't want to risk the K-5II or even the K20D, so I put a set new of Litniam disposables into the old *ist-Ds. Well the damned camera won't turn on. Tested the batteries and all were with specification for the camera to turn on. Cleaned the battery contacts, (using a rubber eraser), still no joy. Dragged out the external power supply, plugged it in and into the camera, it comes right on. Last time I used it it worked fine with disposable lithiums. This is quite annoying. The only reason that I kept the camera was for just this occasion, it's not economically repairable, and hell I could buy a K-7 or another K20D for 200-300 dollars. End of Rant. You can now return to your regularly scheduled conversations. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist-Ds Blues
Try another set of batteries first, the internal resistance of he lithiums may be out of spec so they die under load? On 10 October 2014 14:30, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to take a few night photos in a location where I didn't want to risk the K-5II or even the K20D, so I put a set new of Litniam disposables into the old *ist-Ds. Well the damned camera won't turn on. Tested the batteries and all were with specification for the camera to turn on. Cleaned the battery contacts, (using a rubber eraser), still no joy. Dragged out the external power supply, plugged it in and into the camera, it comes right on. Last time I used it it worked fine with disposable lithiums. This is quite annoying. The only reason that I kept the camera was for just this occasion, it's not economically repairable, and hell I could buy a K-7 or another K20D for 200-300 dollars. End of Rant. You can now return to your regularly scheduled conversations. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?
Ok so it seems that almost no one has any thoughts about this and unfortunately everything suggested I've tried. I guess I'll have to keep my Ds with out batteries, and remember to take them out when I'm done. Thanks to everyone who replied. On 9/8/2011 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?
On 9/8/2011 3:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-09-08 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. Are you absolutely certain the lithiums are good? All the cells? One weak one will make the whole set appear weak after little use. -bmw I'm not sure all the lithium were good to start, but my voltage meter is sure that after a week they were all doing a pretty good impression of a Norwegian Blue... -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
*ist-Ds battery longevity?
Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?
My ist*Ds was always decent in terms of battery life. One spare set of lithiums is all I ever carried. How about when you turn the camera off? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?
On 11-09-08 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. Are you absolutely certain the lithiums are good? All the cells? One weak one will make the whole set appear weak after little use. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?
That's the problem, it was turned off. I put the batteries in just before Irene hit and picked up the camera today. batteries were flat lined. This is the third time something similar happened. On 9/8/2011 3:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: My ist*Ds was always decent in terms of battery life. One spare set of lithiums is all I ever carried. How about when you turn the camera off? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably. Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off. Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that. I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue. Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I have an *istDS with a bad sensor unit according to CRIS, who wanted $380 to replace the unit. It will show images but if you try to take a shot it's just black. Use it for night photography Dave -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS
You got me on that. I actually paused to think about it for a second. -Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:12:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I have an *istDS with a bad sensor unit according to CRIS, who wanted $380 to replace the unit. It will show images but if you try to take a shot it's just black. Use it for night photography Dave -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS
Hey, he didn't say anything about stars. I bet it is perfect for eclipses. You'd be the only one to shoot an eclipse at 1/2000s ]=) 2011/2/19 drd1...@gmail.com: You got me on that. I actually paused to think about it for a second. -Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:12:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I have an *istDS with a bad sensor unit according to CRIS, who wanted $380 to replace the unit. It will show images but if you try to take a shot it's just black. Use it for night photography Dave -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday- Bad *ist DS
On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Hey Guys, I have an *istDS with a bad sensor unit according to CRIS, who wanted $380 to replace the unit. It wil show images but if you try to take a shot it's just black. (I opted instead to get a refurbished E-PL1 for $340). It is useless to me but it would be a source of parts. Pay for shipping and it's yours. Does anybody know if the viewfinder would work in my K100? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday- Bad *ist DS
Hey Guys, I have an *istDS with a bad sensor unit according to CRIS, who wanted $380 to replace the unit. It wil show images but if you try to take a shot it's just black. (I opted instead to get a refurbished E-PL1 for $340). It is useless to me but it would be a source of parts. Pay for shipping and it's yours. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
Again, my response below only acknowledges some of the responses to this question, all of which were helpful. On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 7/2/2010 9:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? Focal length is a physical property of the lens. A 50mm lens designed for 6x6, one designed for 35mm and one designed for 1.5x crop digital will all have exactly the same field of view when shot with the same camera. On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Adam Maas wrote: In a manor of speaking, but based on the optics what you'll see will be the center 2/3 of the frame you'd normally see This helps me understand what's going on. I different ways other responders made the same point. if you compare it to the view through say an LX...the view will be quite tunnel like. Definitely tunnel like even with my 50mm. Thanks to all, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Just clarifying a point. Some replies have mentioned a 'green button'. The DS doesn't have a green button as such but the AE-L button on the back of the camera performs similar functions. Another point in case it hasn't been mentioned. You can check the firmware version by switching on the camera while pressing the Menu button. The version will appear on the rear LCD panel. If it displays 2.01 or 2.02, the camera will support SDHC cards. Both comments very helpful, Brian. Turns out my firmware is 1.0. Sounds like the camera has not been used very much. I comment back when I first showed up here suggests that might not necessarily be a good thing. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
Again, my response below only acknowledges some of the responses to this question, all of which were helpful. On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 7/2/2010 9:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? Focal length is a physical property of the lens. A 50mm lens designed for 6x6, one designed for 35mm and one designed for 1.5x crop digital will all have exactly the same field of view when shot with the same camera. On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Adam Maas wrote: In a manor of speaking, but based on the optics what you'll see will be the center 2/3 of the frame you'd normally see This helps me understand what's going on. I different ways other responders made the same point. if you compare it to the view through say an LX...the view will be quite tunnel like. Definitely tunnel like even with my 50mm. Thanks to all, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Note you'll want the kit zoom, the sensor in the DSLR's is smaller than a 35mm frame so you're 50mm has the field of view of a 75mm on 35mm, a 30-35mm lens is now normal. Pentax's little 18-55 is a pretty good little lens for the money. Actually, that was on the Prayer Service at St. Michaels thread, but since my decision to go with a *ist DS I've been communicating with the list through that thread, I changed the subject heading. Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Note you'll want the kit zoom, the sensor in the DSLR's is smaller than a 35mm frame so you're 50mm has the field of view of a 75mm on 35mm, a 30-35mm lens is now normal. Pentax's little 18-55 is a pretty good little lens for the money. Actually, that was on the Prayer Service at St. Michaels thread, but since my decision to go with a *ist DS I've been communicating with the list through that thread, I changed the subject heading. Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Using any lens on the *istDS will give you an image that has a field of view equivalent to a lens 1.5x longer on 35mm film. A 50mm lens on the DS will have the same field of view as a 75mm lens on a 35mm camera. Focal length is a physical property of the lens. A 50mm lens designed for 6x6, one designed for 35mm and one designed for 1.5x crop digital will all have exactly the same field of view when shot with the same camera. Note that depth of field and other properties of the lens do not change, only the field of view does as you are taking a crop out of the centre of the 35mm frame the lens was designed for. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
In a manor of speaking, but based on the optics what you'll see will be
the center 2/3 of the frame you'd normally see, and if you compare it to
the view through say an LX, it will 2/3 the size you'd be used to. Now
I don't remember which film cameras you were using, if you mentioned it,
but if it was the a ME, MX or LX the view will be quite tunnel like. On
the other hand if it were a MZ/ZX series camera it won't suffer so much
by comparison. The other Pentax cameras will fall somewhere in between.
On 7/2/2010 9:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Note you'll want the kit zoom, the sensor in the DSLR's is smaller
than a 35mm frame so you're 50mm has the field of view of a 75mm on
35mm, a 30-35mm lens is now normal. Pentax's little 18-55 is a pretty
good little lens for the money.
Actually, that was on the Prayer Service at St. Michaels thread, but since my
decision to go with a *ist DS I've been communicating with the list through that thread,
I changed the subject heading.
Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame
the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image,
will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera?
Thanks,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net
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Re: *ist DS
-- From: Eric Weir Subject: Re: *ist DS Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? It doesn't matter if the lens was designed for APS-C, 35mm, 645, 6x7 or whatever. The focal length is what it is, and any lens of a particular focal length will have the same field of view on any particular format. Pentax uses a smaller than 35mm film frame sized sensor, and so sees less of what the lens projects. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:55 -0400, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Note you'll want the kit zoom, the sensor in the DSLR's is smaller than a 35mm frame so you're 50mm has the field of view of a 75mm on 35mm, a 30-35mm lens is now normal. Pentax's little 18-55 is a pretty good little lens for the money. Actually, that was on the Prayer Service at St. Michaels thread, but since my decision to go with a *ist DS I've been communicating with the list through that thread, I changed the subject heading. Do I understand correctly that when using lenses designed for the 35mm frame the field of view through the viewfinder, and not just in the recorded image, will be 1.5 times what it would be on a film camera? Yes - the viewfinder view and what's recorded on the card are the same. Just clarifying a point. Some replies have mentioned a 'green button'. The DS doesn't have a green button as such but the AE-L button on the back of the camera performs similar functions. Also - I believe the manual is incorrect on Page 179 where it talks about aperture ring use. To use a manual focus lens that doesn't have an 'A' setting (or any other K lens where the aperture ring is set to a value other than 'A, the following method is used: 1. Set the Custom setting 'Using aperture ring' to 'Permitted' 2. Set the camera to 'M' mode. 2. Set the desired aperture on the lens 3. Activate the meter by pressing the shutter release half way. 4. Press the AE-L button - the camera sets the correct shutter speed. 5. Take the picture. Note also that if the camera is set in Av instead of 'M' in the above situation, the camera will appear to adjust the shutter speed in accordance with changing light levels but it is actually setting the shutter speed as if the lens was fully open (i.e. it will ignore the aperture set on the aperture ring). Another point in case it hasn't been mentioned. You can check the firmware version by switching on the camera while pressing the Menu button. The version will appear on the rear LCD panel. If it displays 2.01 or 2.02, the camera will support SDHC cards. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
*ist-Ds Lithium Batteries and Stupidy
Yes my own stupidity. I put a new set of set of disposable lithium batteries into the *ist-Ds, didn't turn the camera off and placed it in such a way that the shutter button stayed half depressed for, oh I don't know, for at least the amount of time to drain the batteries... Damn I feel stupid. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS arrived home
Thanks Bob! Just downloaded! lf Bob Sullivan escreveu: Luiz, If you can find a manual for the *ist DS2, that is written with the 2.0 software in mind. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Luiz Felipeluiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Well, after a long battle my DS arrived home. Alive and kicking, quickly demolished a set of ancient NiMH from Rayovac or something like that... currently working on a set of Philips NiMH 2300 mAH, and accepting gladly kingston 2GB SD cards. But that's after the firmware upgrade to 2.02. Works fine indeed. Still trying it out, but so far I'm very happy with it, low res by today stds and all. Next step? Depending on money issues, a second camera - maybe a Demo K7 at the right moment... assuming I manage to go in person or find a proper courier, the a$$%*le that brought me the DS managed to cost me not only the dreaded import tax, but also a fine because said carrier decided to lie about the goods on her bag. At least she didn't try to bribe the officers... After some experience with a Xti and its kit lens, the DA 18~55 looks like a dream. Not only because of its nonrotating front element (Cokin set in the bag again!!), but because it's going wider than 24mm before any vignetting is noticeable in the viewfinder of a borrowed ZX5, wide open. Trying to preview DOF and realistic vignetting with my current crop of 35mm is futile, since the lens closes all the way down. There is hope, since I seldom close my wide lenses past 11 - more often they're not closing past 8.0... Did some crude tests today, and will return to this matter shortly, as soon as the film is developed and scanned. Bottom line, I may get to use it with film at least past 28mm, probably close to 24mm, possibly wider if I kick the panorama mask in. Useful. Too bad I can't control the aperture in the Mx/ Lx. That would be super... Possibly there is a cheap ZX body in my future. Mixed results with flash, so far. I should stop being cheap and getting a proper unit, but I'm very fond of my 280t's and vivitar 285... and those taxes and fines almost doubled the price of the camera. High price we pay here in Brasil. Still getting to know the camera better, despite the constantly read eletronic manual - the 2.02 firmware makes some subtil changes. All things considered, I'd call it a good move. Next, some pics... soon. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: *ist DS arrived home
I still use mine. The D and DS can take quite a beating. I've always thought they were both underrated little cameras. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS arrived home Luiz, If you can find a manual for the *ist DS2, that is written with the 2.0 software in mind. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Luiz Felipeluiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Well, after a long battle my DS arrived home. Alive and kicking, quickly demolished a set of ancient NiMH from Rayovac or something like that... currently working on a set of Philips NiMH 2300 mAH, and accepting gladly kingston 2GB SD cards. But that's after the firmware upgrade to 2.02. Works fine indeed. Still trying it out, but so far I'm very happy with it, low res by today stds and all. Next step? Depending on money issues, a second camera - maybe a Demo K7 at the right moment... assuming I manage to go in person or find a proper courier, the a$$%*le that brought me the DS managed to cost me not only the dreaded import tax, but also a fine because said carrier decided to lie about the goods on her bag. At least she didn't try to bribe the officers... After some experience with a Xti and its kit lens, the DA 18~55 looks like a dream. Not only because of its nonrotating front element (Cokin set in the bag again!!), but because it's going wider than 24mm before any vignetting is noticeable in the viewfinder of a borrowed ZX5, wide open. Trying to preview DOF and realistic vignetting with my current crop of 35mm is futile, since the lens closes all the way down. There is hope, since I seldom close my wide lenses past 11 - more often they're not closing past 8.0... Did some crude tests today, and will return to this matter shortly, as soon as the film is developed and scanned. Bottom line, I may get to use it with film at least past 28mm, probably close to 24mm, possibly wider if I kick the panorama mask in. Useful. Too bad I can't control the aperture in the Mx/ Lx. That would be super... Possibly there is a cheap ZX body in my future. Mixed results with flash, so far. I should stop being cheap and getting a proper unit, but I'm very fond of my 280t's and vivitar 285... and those taxes and fines almost doubled the price of the camera. High price we pay here in Brasil. Still getting to know the camera better, despite the constantly read eletronic manual - the 2.02 firmware makes some subtil changes. All things considered, I'd call it a good move. Next, some pics... soon. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
*ist DS arrived home
Well, after a long battle my DS arrived home. Alive and kicking, quickly demolished a set of ancient NiMH from Rayovac or something like that... currently working on a set of Philips NiMH 2300 mAH, and accepting gladly kingston 2GB SD cards. But that's after the firmware upgrade to 2.02. Works fine indeed. Still trying it out, but so far I'm very happy with it, low res by today stds and all. Next step? Depending on money issues, a second camera - maybe a Demo K7 at the right moment... assuming I manage to go in person or find a proper courier, the a$$%*le that brought me the DS managed to cost me not only the dreaded import tax, but also a fine because said carrier decided to lie about the goods on her bag. At least she didn't try to bribe the officers... After some experience with a Xti and its kit lens, the DA 18~55 looks like a dream. Not only because of its nonrotating front element (Cokin set in the bag again!!), but because it's going wider than 24mm before any vignetting is noticeable in the viewfinder of a borrowed ZX5, wide open. Trying to preview DOF and realistic vignetting with my current crop of 35mm is futile, since the lens closes all the way down. There is hope, since I seldom close my wide lenses past 11 - more often they're not closing past 8.0... Did some crude tests today, and will return to this matter shortly, as soon as the film is developed and scanned. Bottom line, I may get to use it with film at least past 28mm, probably close to 24mm, possibly wider if I kick the panorama mask in. Useful. Too bad I can't control the aperture in the Mx/ Lx. That would be super... Possibly there is a cheap ZX body in my future. Mixed results with flash, so far. I should stop being cheap and getting a proper unit, but I'm very fond of my 280t's and vivitar 285... and those taxes and fines almost doubled the price of the camera. High price we pay here in Brasil. Still getting to know the camera better, despite the constantly read eletronic manual - the 2.02 firmware makes some subtil changes. All things considered, I'd call it a good move. Next, some pics... soon. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *ist DS arrived home
Luiz, If you can find a manual for the *ist DS2, that is written with the 2.0 software in mind. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Luiz Felipeluiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Well, after a long battle my DS arrived home. Alive and kicking, quickly demolished a set of ancient NiMH from Rayovac or something like that... currently working on a set of Philips NiMH 2300 mAH, and accepting gladly kingston 2GB SD cards. But that's after the firmware upgrade to 2.02. Works fine indeed. Still trying it out, but so far I'm very happy with it, low res by today stds and all. Next step? Depending on money issues, a second camera - maybe a Demo K7 at the right moment... assuming I manage to go in person or find a proper courier, the a$$%*le that brought me the DS managed to cost me not only the dreaded import tax, but also a fine because said carrier decided to lie about the goods on her bag. At least she didn't try to bribe the officers... After some experience with a Xti and its kit lens, the DA 18~55 looks like a dream. Not only because of its nonrotating front element (Cokin set in the bag again!!), but because it's going wider than 24mm before any vignetting is noticeable in the viewfinder of a borrowed ZX5, wide open. Trying to preview DOF and realistic vignetting with my current crop of 35mm is futile, since the lens closes all the way down. There is hope, since I seldom close my wide lenses past 11 - more often they're not closing past 8.0... Did some crude tests today, and will return to this matter shortly, as soon as the film is developed and scanned. Bottom line, I may get to use it with film at least past 28mm, probably close to 24mm, possibly wider if I kick the panorama mask in. Useful. Too bad I can't control the aperture in the Mx/ Lx. That would be super... Possibly there is a cheap ZX body in my future. Mixed results with flash, so far. I should stop being cheap and getting a proper unit, but I'm very fond of my 280t's and vivitar 285... and those taxes and fines almost doubled the price of the camera. High price we pay here in Brasil. Still getting to know the camera better, despite the constantly read eletronic manual - the 2.02 firmware makes some subtil changes. All things considered, I'd call it a good move. Next, some pics... soon. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original, CS?
nope, I use a DS with RAW and it imports right into photoshop CS with ACR. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:26 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original, CS? The IstDS may be one of those where you have to use the stand-alone DNG converter to get it into CS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original, CS?
On 13/7/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The IstDS may be one of those where you have to use the stand-alone DNG converter to get it into CS. Camera Raw 2.4 did the trick John. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original,, CS?
From: Cotty On 13/7/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The IstDS may be one of those where you have to use the stand-alone DNG converter to get it into CS. Camera Raw 2.4 did the trick John. Good. Adobe's site used to have what cameras were supported by what version of ACR, and what versions of ACR would work with what versions of Photoshop ... in an easily located table. But I couldn't find it when I looked. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original, CS?
The IstDS may be one of those where you have to use the stand-alone DNG converter to get it into CS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
On 8/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: 2,4 also fully supports DNG so it can be used in concert with Adobe DNG converter to process RAW files from any camera supported by any version of ACR. Thanks Adam. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
Cotty Have you found a copy. I have what i think is the correct version here, but not 100% sure. Its a file from 2006 so it may be if you need it. Dave On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: 2,4 also fully supports DNG so it can be used in concert with Adobe DNG converter to process RAW files from any camera supported by any version of ACR. Thanks Adam. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
On 9/7/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you found a copy. I have what i think is the correct version here, but not 100% sure. Its a file from 2006 so it may be if you need it. Thanks Dave, I downloaded 2.4 from the Adobe website and it handles the PEF files from the *ist Ds into the original Photoshop CS (version 8) no problem at all. It was for Stefan - he's into day 3 of his work experience with the Oxford Mail newspaper and he's loving it. The problem is that he keeps sending me ebay links to auctions for used Canon 1D mark II 's !! The photog he is assigned to has a 1D mark III. Stef is not impressed with the *ist Ds speed - but I did tell him that he would be on steam power with it instead of the Dilithium-Crystal- powered warp drive of the 1D cameras! He's making do though - we had a heads-together session last night about ISO and shooting modes. He's got it sorted now so hopefully he won't make the mistakes of yesterday. Working on a web page for his stuff, so will post that to the list as and when. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
Sounds good Cotty. Glad he is enjoying the work experience. This kid of thing, i found, is invaluable later in life. Tell him to tell the Canon guy, the Ds is supposed to be slow, it lakes better pictures that way.:-) Dave On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 9/7/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you found a copy. I have what i think is the correct version here, but not 100% sure. Its a file from 2006 so it may be if you need it. Thanks Dave, I downloaded 2.4 from the Adobe website and it handles the PEF files from the *ist Ds into the original Photoshop CS (version 8) no problem at all. It was for Stefan - he's into day 3 of his work experience with the Oxford Mail newspaper and he's loving it. The problem is that he keeps sending me ebay links to auctions for used Canon 1D mark II 's !! The photog he is assigned to has a 1D mark III. Stef is not impressed with the *ist Ds speed - but I did tell him that he would be on steam power with it instead of the Dilithium-Crystal- powered warp drive of the 1D cameras! He's making do though - we had a heads-together session last night about ISO and shooting modes. He's got it sorted now so hopefully he won't make the mistakes of yesterday. Working on a web page for his stuff, so will post that to the list as and when. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
On 8/7/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. OOPS- version 2.x and got it on my Mac :-) sorry. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
I believe 2.7 is the last version of ACR Adobe released for PSCS. I know it supported the *istD, not sure about the DS. Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Cotty wrote: Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
On 8/7/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe 2.7 is the last version of ACR Adobe released for PSCS. I know it supported the *istD, not sure about the DS. Thanks Paul, will try. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
Turned out to be 2.4 - anything beyond 3.0 won't work with CS, but has to be CS2. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
If you can't find a version that works with CS you could try to find an old copy of Raw Shooter Express, I've never used Camera Raw but RSE is good enough that I didn't really feel any need to. Now with the K20 I'll have to find a new RAW converter. Cotty wrote: Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
ACR 2.4 works with istDS and photoshop CS. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
2,4 also fully supports DNG so it can be used in concert with Adobe DNG converter to process RAW files from any camera supported by any version of ACR. -Adam On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ist ds and ds2?
What are the differences between those two models? Thanks. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: ist ds and ds2?
DS2 Has bigger LCD and is much much harder to find. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:35 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: ist ds and ds2? What are the differences between those two models? Thanks. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ist ds and ds2?
The DS2 has a 2.5 LCD and slightly faster SD write speeds as well as a few extra options in the firmware. The DS has a 2.0 LCD. The firmware changes were given to the DS as well in v2.0 of the DS firmware. So they're essentially identical. The Samsung GX-1S is a DS2 with slightly different firmware as well (Essentially just different look to the UI and tweaked RAW format). -Adam On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: What are the differences between those two models? Thanks. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WTB - *ist DS/ 2, lens, etc. - please pretend it's friday...
Well, as the title says I'm looking for some items, and would rather deal with list members in the US, since I'll be speeding trough Florida in april (no, not from april 1st). Here it comes: 1) *ist DS or DS2 camera in fair/ good/ excellent condition, mirror/ finder/ sensor in perfect working order and clean; 2) some zoom lens in the 10~55mm range, either full frame or DA (10~20; 16~45; 18~55 come to mind quickly in the DA range), good/ excellent condition, lens shade most welcome; 3) 15 or 20mm full frame lens, good/ excellent condition, as alternative to above zoom; 4) macro focusing rail, fair cond. or better. 5) I really shouldn't but I may consider a K100/ K100 super/ K10d instead of the DS, some ugly in the outside/ perfect inside sample if it's out there. Can't pay for a good/ excellent K10d, probably, but if you have one and wish to sell it please drop me a line. I'm not too worried about the external appearance of those items, as long as they're working and the price is fair. I'll be in the US in april, but would like to settle payment and next day shipping to Florida in advance (Paypal preferred). Further details please email offlist. TIA, LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hey Derby - thanks for the info. I can live with that counter display, assuming it counts down when I have less than 999 photos to take. I believe I'll need to discuss the eneloop issue deeper, however... Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http:// techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ Derby Chang escreveu: Hi Luiz, I popped a 16GB SDHC A-Data card into my *ist-DS I leave at work (powered happily by Eneloops, BTW). Other than the frame counter showing 999, it all works fine. D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question I'm with you, Charles. I've tried numerous brands and the Eneloops have proven to be far superior to any of them in practice. If others have had different experience, fine. Use what works best for you. Having said that, I'm impressed with the non-rechargeable Energisers that came with the K200. I used a few different brands/ capacities of NiMH bateries with my istD before going to non rechargable lithiums. I actually didn't see much of a correlation between MaH capacity and number of pictures taken. The best performance I got was with some 1700 or so MaH batteries, which performed far better than the 2400 (IIRC) MaH batteries that I had. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I have NO experience with eneloops - may try, someday, and may even post the results here just to see what develops. Each and every battery would behave in some particular way when presented to some particular camera, in some specific temperature, after X days of being charged by Z brand charger at Y volts versus A miliampers... and the camera will try to judge the remaining capacity looking for a certain treshold voltage. And the voltage variations here should be small - and measured in actual use, so this voltage is not the one measured with ordinary meters. This measurement is made in presence of a demand. How soon this specific camera will say that particular battery set is depleted? It will depend on a whole set of circunstances, but I'm positive there will be cases such as yours, William. Because that particular set feels better charged to the camera, as under its present demand the voltmeter stays in the green zone. I'm willing to bet some cents a different set of higher-rated batteries may endure a little longer if you use the flash more, or keep shooting at a faster rate, or the temp gets a little higher. Let's not forget the batteries in question may be good for other cameras even after being pronounced dead by one. Each and every eletronic gadget has its own signature, about using energy. Some use much energy to power up, than very little to remain in operation. Those different uses will drain different batteries in (guessed right) different degrees. Static tests made with constant-demand dummy loads will never get the same results, even if they're made by unbiased people. So both lab curves AND real world results by observing people with the same gear are important tools to find out which batt will work better. If the amount of energy in those things would be equal to the amount of energy used discussing their use... :-) LF William Robb escreveu: - Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question I'm with you, Charles. I've tried numerous brands and the Eneloops have proven to be far superior to any of them in practice. If others have had different experience, fine. Use what works best for you. Having said that, I'm impressed with the non-rechargeable Energisers that came with the K200. I used a few different brands/ capacities of NiMH bateries with my istD before going to non rechargable lithiums. I actually didn't see much of a correlation between MaH capacity and number of pictures taken. The best performance I got was with some 1700 or so MaH batteries, which performed far better than the 2400 (IIRC) MaH batteries that I had. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've had some experience with NiMH and a good battery charger with my -DS although no Eneloops (yet). I've had two different batches of cheap, no-name batt (Powerizer?), and a couple sets of Energizer. I've got a LaCross BC-900 charger so I can accurately see how they perform and charge/discharge them correctly. Bottom line is that the camera (at least the -DS) is *VERY* dependent on battery voltage. It will crap out and refuse to operate once the loaded voltage goes too low... where too low is NOT the 1.0Vpc that is typically used to measure cell capacity, and loaded is the relatively large current the electronics draw when the camera is turned on. Look at the second plot in the link you sent. If the camera says any battery less than 1.2V is dead, then no-name will have 800mAH and Eneloop 1400mAH. In fact, if the threshold is anything more than 1.1V, the higher (under load) voltage of the Eneloops will be superior to the no-name. Most electric devices crap out WAY before the minimum threshold voltage of a dead NiMH cell... the only time you get the rated capacity is under testing on the bench, or using devices that don't shut off (flashlights, etc). Oh, and the continual trickle charge is not necessarily the best way to keep batteries in good health. It can grow metalized whiskers within the cell and shows up as voltage depression... effectively reduced capacity. -Cory On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, JC OConnell wrote: never mind, I looked it up myself, as you can see, even sanyo's own regular nimh batteries have far superior capacity on a full charge than their own eneloopes: http://www.eneloop.info/home/performance-details/capacity.html So what does this mean, well if you use your batteries within a couple months of charging the eneloops will run out of energy quicker than regular nimh batteries. the only advantage of using eneloops is if you charge and then dont use for two months or more. By then the self discharge of the regular nimh will have equalized to the the lower capacity of the eneloops have in the first place when fully charged. So, unless you actully wait 2 months to use the eneloops after charging, they are inferior, not superior to regular nimh for what a battery does which is store ususable energy. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of JC OConnell Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: *ist DS storage question yup, far superior if you value charging but not using your batteries for months later. BTW, do these eneloops have as much capacity in mAH as other nimh batteries or not? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, PPSEL-IA* * Research Associate, Vibrations and Acoustics Laboratory * * Mechanical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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But the camera doenst say anything under 1.2V is dead, the nominal rated voltage of nimh is 1.2V. Nimh would not be very useful in a *istDS if under 1.2 was dead and thats not the case from all the nimh I have used in mine. off brand and energizers are giving me long life in days and shots though I dont have the absolute numbers ( I havent recorded them), but based on discharge curves both under load and self discharge, if the istDS was crapping out at under 4.8V It would not be giving me the useful life per charge. Regarding trickle charge, I already noted its not recommended and that pulse charge is the best way to keep topped off. But I can tell you of all my sets used for 2 years now, I am not seeing any degradation of these cells yet, I trickle with 50Ma. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: *ist DS storage question I've had some experience with NiMH and a good battery charger with my -DS although no Eneloops (yet). I've had two different batches of cheap, no-name batt (Powerizer?), and a couple sets of Energizer. I've got a LaCross BC-900 charger so I can accurately see how they perform and charge/discharge them correctly. Bottom line is that the camera (at least the -DS) is *VERY* dependent on battery voltage. It will crap out and refuse to operate once the loaded voltage goes too low... where too low is NOT the 1.0Vpc that is typically used to measure cell capacity, and loaded is the relatively large current the electronics draw when the camera is turned on. Look at the second plot in the link you sent. If the camera says any battery less than 1.2V is dead, then no-name will have 800mAH and Eneloop 1400mAH. In fact, if the threshold is anything more than 1.1V, the higher (under load) voltage of the Eneloops will be superior to the no-name. Most electric devices crap out WAY before the minimum threshold voltage of a dead NiMH cell... the only time you get the rated capacity is under testing on the bench, or using devices that don't shut off (flashlights, etc). Oh, and the continual trickle charge is not necessarily the best way to keep batteries in good health. It can grow metalized whiskers within the cell and shows up as voltage depression... effectively reduced capacity. -Cory On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, JC OConnell wrote: never mind, I looked it up myself, as you can see, even sanyo's own regular nimh batteries have far superior capacity on a full charge than their own eneloopes: http://www.eneloop.info/home/performance-details/capacity.html So what does this mean, well if you use your batteries within a couple months of charging the eneloops will run out of energy quicker than regular nimh batteries. the only advantage of using eneloops is if you charge and then dont use for two months or more. By then the self discharge of the regular nimh will have equalized to the the lower capacity of the eneloops have in the first place when fully charged. So, unless you actully wait 2 months to use the eneloops after charging, they are inferior, not superior to regular nimh for what a battery does which is store ususable energy. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of JC OConnell Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: *ist DS storage question yup, far superior if you value charging but not using your batteries for months later. BTW, do these eneloops have as much capacity in mAH as other nimh batteries or not? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D. Electrical
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Again, thanks for facts and ideas. I don't believe in large baskets as ideal media to carry eggs, but then there are moments when the extra space is useful. I seem to need changing film at the worst moments, sometimes, and using 2 or 4gb SDHC cards would allow me to change the cards at ease, not because I have to. The same goes for the batteries - AA are easily available, and while they don't last long, they may close the gap after the d...@#ed rechargeables quit and the spares fall in the water/ quicksand/ under the whatever. As you may have noticed, my constant nightmare is gear failure. I ended 2008 with more gear in need of overhaul than working, and not exactly happy about it. Not that an used DS2 will outlast a brand new K2000 - it shouldn't, but I already finished sessions or trips using the second, older and not so capable camera... so being able to use any card in any camera (or battery, lens...) is my goal. As the DS is happy with SDHC, it becomes a serious alternative to my bag, and even if it isn't up to the K10/20/2000 level, it's cheaper and said to be a good performer in its class. Maybe... and I'd rather a DS of my own than a borrowed XTi. There is also the K100d/ Super... Now, the moment I win the lottery... Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think you'll find the DS a pleasant camera to use. Were it not for the lack of shake reduction, I may have delayed upgrading. Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. They just go on and on. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:51:38 -0200, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br said: Again, thanks for facts and ideas. I don't believe in large baskets as ideal media to carry eggs, but then there are moments when the extra space is useful. I seem to need changing film at the worst moments, sometimes, and using 2 or 4gb SDHC cards would allow me to change the cards at ease, not because I have to. The same goes for the batteries - AA are easily available, and while they don't last long, they may close the gap after the d...@#ed rechargeables quit and the spares fall in the water/ quicksand/ under the whatever. As you may have noticed, my constant nightmare is gear failure. I ended 2008 with more gear in need of overhaul than working, and not exactly happy about it. Not that an used DS2 will outlast a brand new K2000 - it shouldn't, but I already finished sessions or trips using the second, older and not so capable camera... so being able to use any card in any camera (or battery, lens...) is my goal. As the DS is happy with SDHC, it becomes a serious alternative to my bag, and even if it isn't up to the K10/20/2000 level, it's cheaper and said to be a good performer in its class. Maybe... and I'd rather a DS of my own than a borrowed XTi. There is also the K100d/ Super... Now, the moment I win the lottery... Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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yup, far superior if you value charging but not using your batteries for months later. BTW, do these eneloops have as much capacity in mAH as other nimh batteries or not? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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never mind, I looked it up myself, as you can see, even sanyo's own regular nimh batteries have far superior capacity on a full charge than their own eneloopes: http://www.eneloop.info/home/performance-details/capacity.html So what does this mean, well if you use your batteries within a couple months of charging the eneloops will run out of energy quicker than regular nimh batteries. the only advantage of using eneloops is if you charge and then dont use for two months or more. By then the self discharge of the regular nimh will have equalized to the the lower capacity of the eneloops have in the first place when fully charged. So, unless you actully wait 2 months to use the eneloops after charging, they are inferior, not superior to regular nimh for what a battery does which is store ususable energy. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of JC OConnell Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: *ist DS storage question yup, far superior if you value charging but not using your batteries for months later. BTW, do these eneloops have as much capacity in mAH as other nimh batteries or not? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 6, 2009, at 17:50, Bruce Walker wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! Ignore JCO, get the Eneloops and be happy. If you don't like them, I'll buy them back from you. Funny how reality isn't charts, graphs, and blind assertions based on zero experience. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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funny how you can understand digital photography but cant read a simple line chart showing the superior short term capacity of the non eneloops. eneloops are good for one thing, very long term storage after charging, thats it. all else, worse than regular, cheaper, nimh batteries. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question On Jan 6, 2009, at 17:50, Bruce Walker wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! Ignore JCO, get the Eneloops and be happy. If you don't like them, I'll buy them back from you. Funny how reality isn't charts, graphs, and blind assertions based on zero experience. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I get by just fine with Energizer 2100 mah thank you. But then again, what do I know. Bill On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 17:50, Bruce Walker wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! Ignore JCO, get the Eneloops and be happy. If you don't like them, I'll buy them back from you. Funny how reality isn't charts, graphs, and blind assertions based on zero experience. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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charts and graphs are enginnering data. They are science. I dont need to buy or use these batteries to understand the difference between them. Just like I dont need to live in Alaska to know the weather difference between my home in Florida. I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. I provided the scientific proof from SANYO that these cells are NOT what the original poster or YOU are trying to imply they are. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question On Jan 6, 2009, at 17:50, Bruce Walker wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Re rechargeable batteries. It's been said before here but worth repeating that Sanyo Eneloops are far superior to most other rechargeables. Uh, oh. Fire in the hole! Ignore JCO, get the Eneloops and be happy. If you don't like them, I'll buy them back from you. Funny how reality isn't charts, graphs, and blind assertions based on zero experience. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 6, 2009, at 21:48, JC OConnell wrote: I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. OK. I'll take that label. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. If you're just reading charts and not using them (and people said what should I use? not what do the graphs say?) then you have no experience with them. Simple logic. I provided the scientific proof from SANYO that these cells are NOT what the original poster or YOU are trying to imply they are. I just said they work great. No implications there - they really really do. Truly-uly. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This guy must be in denial, I do have experience with them, I read and understand the enginnering data published by the MFGR which is sanyo and it very clearly shows that at low, medium, and high current loads, regular non eneloop nimh batteries have more energy storage or Capacity. The only advantage of these eneloop batteries is if you charge them and DONT use them for a couple months, then they are equal or better on capacity than regular nimh, but if you dont wait a couple months they have LESS or are WORSE than regular nimh batteries with regards to energy storage. I dont need to buy them and you dont have to be an Einstein to see that if you can read a line chart, then I am making the simple assumption, you are just clueless with regards to battery properties understanding. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question On Jan 6, 2009, at 21:48, JC OConnell wrote: I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. OK. I'll take that label. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. If you're just reading charts and not using them (and people said what should I use? not what do the graphs say?) then you have no experience with them. Simple logic. I provided the scientific proof from SANYO that these cells are NOT what the original poster or YOU are trying to imply they are. I just said they work great. No implications there - they really really do. Truly-uly. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question On Jan 6, 2009, at 21:48, JC OConnell wrote: I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. OK. I'll take that label. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. I miss those days. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm with you, Charles. I've tried numerous brands and the Eneloops have proven to be far superior to any of them in practice. If others have had different experience, fine. Use what works best for you. Having said that, I'm impressed with the non-rechargeable Energisers that came with the K200. Cheers Brian (who should have shut up in the first place) ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:56:05 -0600, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com said: On Jan 6, 2009, at 21:48, JC OConnell wrote: I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. OK. I'll take that label. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. If you're just reading charts and not using them (and people said what should I use? not what do the graphs say?) then you have no experience with them. Simple logic. I provided the scientific proof from SANYO that these cells are NOT what the original poster or YOU are trying to imply they are. I just said they work great. No implications there - they really really do. Truly-uly. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:24:15PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: Ignore JCO, get the Eneloops and be happy. Now *there's* a T-shirt slogan if ever I saw one ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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fish! JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question I'm with you, Charles. I've tried numerous brands and the Eneloops have proven to be far superior to any of them in practice. If others have had different experience, fine. Use what works best for you. Having said that, I'm impressed with the non-rechargeable Energisers that came with the K200. Cheers Brian (who should have shut up in the first place) ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:56:05 -0600, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com said: On Jan 6, 2009, at 21:48, JC OConnell wrote: I dont make blind assertions, and I assert you are a fool. OK. I'll take that label. Blind Assertions? SCREW YOU. If you're just reading charts and not using them (and people said what should I use? not what do the graphs say?) then you have no experience with them. Simple logic. I provided the scientific proof from SANYO that these cells are NOT what the original poster or YOU are trying to imply they are. I just said they work great. No implications there - they really really do. Truly-uly. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz Felipe wrote: I spent a few days with very limited internet access, and was unable to keep up with the photos posted - I'm going to look them over the next days, but usually they come just great - so I bet I won't be disappointed... the comments alone are very interesting. :-) I'm considering my digital options, within the well-under-$500 range, and wonder about the DS and DS2 bodies. While they lack shake reduction and sensor cleaning, both accept AA batteries and would not seem mismatched in my bag. Big question so far: do they accept SDHC cards? Not just 2Gb cards, but 2G and over SDHC cards? Pentax released a firmware update to the DS that would allow the use of 2G cards, but the compatibility of pre-HC readers and SDHC cards depends both on hardware and firmware - so even if Boz' page list both as SDHC capable I'm wondering if any of you is actually using SDHC cards on the DS/ DS2 cameras... and how many Gb. I'd like to go for a k20d, or at least a k2000, but buying a DS/ DS2 would leave me with a little more to spend in lenses... probably the Sigma 10~20 we discussed. Not an easy choice, but I believe I wouldn't lose much going with the DS/ DS2. Comments? Thanks in advance. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ Hi Luiz, I popped a 16GB SDHC A-Data card into my *ist-DS I leave at work (powered happily by Eneloops, BTW). Other than the frame counter showing 999, it all works fine. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I spent a few days with very limited internet access, and was unable to keep up with the photos posted - I'm going to look them over the next days, but usually they come just great - so I bet I won't be disappointed... the comments alone are very interesting. :-) I'm considering my digital options, within the well-under-$500 range, and wonder about the DS and DS2 bodies. While they lack shake reduction and sensor cleaning, both accept AA batteries and would not seem mismatched in my bag. Big question so far: do they accept SDHC cards? Not just 2Gb cards, but 2G and over SDHC cards? Pentax released a firmware update to the DS that would allow the use of 2G cards, but the compatibility of pre-HC readers and SDHC cards depends both on hardware and firmware - so even if Boz' page list both as SDHC capable I'm wondering if any of you is actually using SDHC cards on the DS/ DS2 cameras... and how many Gb. I'd like to go for a k20d, or at least a k2000, but buying a DS/ DS2 would leave me with a little more to spend in lenses... probably the Sigma 10~20 we discussed. Not an easy choice, but I believe I wouldn't lose much going with the DS/ DS2. Comments? Thanks in advance. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz, Can't say about SDHC cards ov over 2Gig in the DS or DS2. I will say that I enjoyed the extra pixels after moving from a DS to a K10D. That and the shake reduction are worth it. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: I spent a few days with very limited internet access, and was unable to keep up with the photos posted - I'm going to look them over the next days, but usually they come just great - so I bet I won't be disappointed... the comments alone are very interesting. :-) I'm considering my digital options, within the well-under-$500 range, and wonder about the DS and DS2 bodies. While they lack shake reduction and sensor cleaning, both accept AA batteries and would not seem mismatched in my bag. Big question so far: do they accept SDHC cards? Not just 2Gb cards, but 2G and over SDHC cards? Pentax released a firmware update to the DS that would allow the use of 2G cards, but the compatibility of pre-HC readers and SDHC cards depends both on hardware and firmware - so even if Boz' page list both as SDHC capable I'm wondering if any of you is actually using SDHC cards on the DS/ DS2 cameras... and how many Gb. I'd like to go for a k20d, or at least a k2000, but buying a DS/ DS2 would leave me with a little more to spend in lenses... probably the Sigma 10~20 we discussed. Not an easy choice, but I believe I wouldn't lose much going with the DS/ DS2. Comments? Thanks in advance. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Luiz, This isn't 100% applicable to you, but I've got an ist-DL with the latest firmware upgrade, and I'm using verbatim 4Gb SDHC cards in it with no problem at all. Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 14:54 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: *ist DS storage question I spent a few days with very limited internet access, and was unable to keep up with the photos posted - I'm going to look them over the next days, but usually they come just great - so I bet I won't be disappointed... the comments alone are very interesting. :-) I'm considering my digital options, within the well-under-$500 range, and wonder about the DS and DS2 bodies. While they lack shake reduction and sensor cleaning, both accept AA batteries and would not seem mismatched in my bag. Big question so far: do they accept SDHC cards? Not just 2Gb cards, but 2G and over SDHC cards? Pentax released a firmware update to the DS that would allow the use of 2G cards, but the compatibility of pre-HC readers and SDHC cards depends both on hardware and firmware - so even if Boz' page list both as SDHC capable I'm wondering if any of you is actually using SDHC cards on the DS/ DS2 cameras... and how many Gb. I'd like to go for a k20d, or at least a k2000, but buying a DS/ DS2 would leave me with a little more to spend in lenses... probably the Sigma 10~20 we discussed. Not an easy choice, but I believe I wouldn't lose much going with the DS/ DS2. Comments? Thanks in advance. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The DS is quite at home using SHDC cards. I don't use them because 180+ pictures on a card are more than enough eggs in one basket for me. -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Jan 5, 2009 10:54 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: *ist DS storage question I spent a few days with very limited internet access, and was unable to keep up with the photos posted - I'm going to look them over the next days, but usually they come just great - so I bet I won't be disappointed... the comments alone are very interesting. :-) I'm considering my digital options, within the well-under-$500 range, and wonder about the DS and DS2 bodies. While they lack shake reduction and sensor cleaning, both accept AA batteries and would not seem mismatched in my bag. Big question so far: do they accept SDHC cards? Not just 2Gb cards, but 2G and over SDHC cards? Pentax released a firmware update to the DS that would allow the use of 2G cards, but the compatibility of pre-HC readers and SDHC cards depends both on hardware and firmware - so even if Boz' page list both as SDHC capable I'm wondering if any of you is actually using SDHC cards on the DS/ DS2 cameras... and how many Gb. I'd like to go for a k20d, or at least a k2000, but buying a DS/ DS2 would leave me with a little more to spend in lenses... probably the Sigma 10~20 we discussed. Not an easy choice, but I believe I wouldn't lose much going with the DS/ DS2. Comments? Thanks in advance. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The good news is the speed of the card won't really matter with the *ist-D. The bad news is the speed of the card won't really matter... Steve Larson wrote: i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d instead, straight across. I'm taking it to Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all your help, i love this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :) steve -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The first couple of times I downloaded pictures from my *ist-D I used the card reader built into an HP Photosmart 7250 supposedly USB 2.0 compatible, which it is, but it downloads at USP 1.0 speeds. I figured anything had to be faster so I used the USB cable that came with the camera until I could get an multi card reader. I haven't used the cable to download photos since. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the camera to download. I've never done that in five years of shooting digital. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not Paul, but yes for all intents and purposes the *ist series bodies are all the same size. They are slightly differnet shapes, and the D has a slightly shallower grip. All of the rest are exactly the same size though the DL's are lighter than the Ds'. Hope that helps. Steve Larson wrote: thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i ask because the wife wants a small camera. steve - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion. On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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hiya adam, thank you sir. i feel i am loaded with both barrels to barter now. steve - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds The DS and DL series are identical externally apart from the LCD (DS has 2, DS2, DL, DL2 have 2.5). The D is different, with a smaller grip on a slightly larger body. K-series bodies are larger. -Adam On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i ask because the wife wants a small camera. steve - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion. On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One other thing about the DS - be sure you have the latest firmware upgrade. With the exception of the smaller LCD, the upgrade essentially makes the DS a DS2. -p Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d instead, straight across. I'm taking it to Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all your help, i love this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :) steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The ist d is of better build quality. I think you'll like it. I had two of them and never had a problem with either one through many thousands of photos. Paul On May 16, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Steve Larson wrote: i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d instead, straight across. I'm taking it to Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all your help, i love this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :) steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you got it cheap enough, I'd just ignore the USB port entirely and use a card reader instead. The only time I ever used the USB port of a Pentax DSLR was to see if the Pentax Remote Assistant worked with the K10D. It worked, that was the last time I plugged it in. Card readers are much better than plugging in the camera, and they're faster to boot. Godfrey On May 15, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Steve Larson wrote: Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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thanks godfrey, it came with a 90 day warranty, so its going to be fixed :) I will keep the card reader in mind though, thanks ! Steve - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If you got it cheap enough, I'd just ignore the USB port entirely and use a card reader instead. The only time I ever used the USB port of a Pentax DSLR was to see if the Pentax Remote Assistant worked with the K10D. It worked, that was the last time I plugged it in. Card readers are much better than plugging in the camera, and they're faster to boot. Godfrey On May 15, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Steve Larson wrote: Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 15, 2008, at 14:47, Steve Larson wrote: Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Here comes my plug for the Sandisk UltraII SD plus USB cards which convert into little chips which can be plugged straight into your USB ports (no reader required). Cheap as all get-out at Radio Shack, of all places. Last I checked it was $14.99 for 1 gig, $29.99 for 2 gigs. Even with the fixed camera, you'll probably enjoy the convenience of not HAVING to plug the camera in to get your photos off of it. One less cable/gizmo to pack with you! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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cool, thanks charles !! steve (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On May 15, 2008, at 14:47, Steve Larson wrote: Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Here comes my plug for the Sandisk UltraII SD plus USB cards which convert into little chips which can be plugged straight into your USB ports (no reader required). Cheap as all get-out at Radio Shack, of all places. Last I checked it was $14.99 for 1 gig, $29.99 for 2 gigs. Even with the fixed camera, you'll probably enjoy the convenience of not HAVING to plug the camera in to get your photos off of it. One less cable/gizmo to pack with you! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks charles !! steve (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) I'm with the other two. I didn't get a cable with my *istD, but I did get two CF cards and my laptop has a cardreader, so I just exchange cards and load from the card. Easy peasy. I've since acquired a cord, but I've yet to use it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve). Lots of fun (I too am left-handed). Here's hoping you heal quickly! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault writes: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve). Lots of fun (I too am left-handed). Here's hoping you heal quickly! cheers, frank what a bunch of wimps, breaking bones all the time! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank Knarf! if all else fails i will get a card reader, and thanks for the kind words :) steve - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve). Lots of fun (I too am left-handed). Here's hoping you heal quickly! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I never used it either, thats why you have it. LOL Steve, i have 6 dlsr's and have never plugged them in to a computer. Sandisk usb 2 card reader(six kinds i think) and works great. Dave On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks charles !! steve (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff surgery and am typing with my right hand only, and i'm left handed, lol) I'm with the other two. I didn't get a cable with my *istD, but I did get two CF cards and my laptop has a cardreader, so I just exchange cards and load from the card. Easy peasy. I've since acquired a cord, but I've yet to use it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the camera to download. I've never done that in five years of shooting digital. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one thanks paul, dave steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the camera to download. I've never done that in five years of shooting digital. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the cable in to DL the pics, I get a message on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on another machine too, same thing :((( Steve -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one Get the camera fixed anyway. If the USB port is buggered, something else related might fail ofter the warranty period. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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hi bill, i will. i'm going to actually try and swing a deal, there was another used ist down at the camera shop where i bought it, it was another $100 more expensive. Maybe we can work something out *evil grin. steve - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds - Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one Get the camera fixed anyway. If the USB port is buggered, something else related might fail ofter the warranty period. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds hi bill, i will. i'm going to actually try and swing a deal, there was another used ist down at the camera shop where i bought it, it was another $100 more expensive. Maybe we can work something out *evil grin. Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion. On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i ask because the wife wants a small camera. steve - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion. On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The DS and DL series are identical externally apart from the LCD (DS has 2, DS2, DL, DL2 have 2.5). The D is different, with a smaller grip on a slightly larger body. K-series bodies are larger. -Adam On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i ask because the wife wants a small camera. steve - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion. On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote: writes that down. steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it. -- Original message -- From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe, but it was a model with more features Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
