[RDA-L] Coding subsequent creators in MARC 21 Bibliographic

in each case. It would also give equivalent status to all creators, which is important if one is looking for all the works of a given creator (rather than those works on which he/she just happens to be named first). Ed Jones Associate Director, Assessment and Technical Services National

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

of responsibility but has no greater semantic value. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Sybille von Rüden Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 8:15 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

University of Washington Box 352900 Seattle WA 98195-2900 On Mon, 4 Feb 2013, Ed Jones wrote: Perhaps my intent was misunderstood. My motives are those of curiosity and understanding, not a desire to replace RDA with RAK (a truly quixotic adventure). I am a cataloging enthusiast, as I suspect we

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

title variations. Obviously, in German-speaking countries it is felt that the latter is sufficient. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

in terms of linking data, collapsing retrieval sets at a more general level, etc. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors The principal drawback I see

Re: [RDA-L] RDA appendix J relationship designations

: [RDA-L] RDA appendix J relationship designations Ed Jones wrote: RDA relationship designators specify associated FRBR group 1 entities. MARC 21 780/785 2nd indicator values do not. Of course, if (work) and (expression) are not intrinsic parts of the RDA relationship designators

[RDA-L] RDA appendix J relationship designations

designators specify associated FRBR group 1 entities. MARC 21 780/785 2nd indicator values do not. Of course, if (work) and (expression) are not intrinsic parts of the RDA relationship designators, then the problem disappears. Any insights, preferably authoritative? Ed Jones Assistant

Re: [RDA-L] Triumvirate of giants committed to scheming

It should be borne in mind that the focus of schema.org is search engine optimization, whereas the Semantic Web and linked data have somewhat more ambitious--if so far elusive--goals. Ed Jones National University (San Diego) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Relative severity of rule changes then and now

changed one-by-one rather than globally? And my memory is that moving cards was not that simple. Large libraries once employed legions of staff engaged in nothing but the mundane task of filing and shifting cards. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Changes between rules (was: Plans for Existing Bib Records)

were sufficiently large to argue first for superimposition (the decision not to apply AACR1 to existing headings or new headings based on existing headings [e.g., subordinate bodies]) and then to the one-year delay in implementing AACR2. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, California

Re: [RDA-L] RDA MARC coding question

as it is presented on the resource (e.g., Copyright 1948 SEPS in the subfield $g example in MARC 21 Bibliographic). Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Laurence Creider Sent: Thursday

Re: [RDA-L] RDA MARC coding question

Is it Friday yet? I meant to say 542 was designed to hold a record of a search for authoritative data. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3

Re: [RDA-L] Dr. Snoopy

Given the discussions over time on this list about revealing personal information, I would be hesitant to link Clark Kent and Superman on an authority record. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Warning about authority record numbers and headings - they DO change

It would be nice in such cases if there were a MARC equivalent to the SKOS hiddenLabel (hidden lexical label) property. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, California) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

? Just curious! Thanks, Julie On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edumailto:ejo...@nu.edu wrote: FWIW, ONIX calls it a pre-recorded MP3 player, which also seems to be the name used in the marketplace, if a Google search I just did is any indication (1.5 million results

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

PM, Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.commailto:julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, Are you saying that you would call it a: 300 1 pre-recorded MP3 player ? Just curious! Thanks, Julie On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edumailto:ejo...@nu.edu wrote: FWIW, ONIX

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

02138 host...@law.harvard.edu +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) http://www.law.harvard.edu/library/ -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloguing kits

categorization. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:03 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Cataloguing kits

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

there is a newer version than version 1.0). http://www.onixtools.de/downloads/ONIX_Code_Lists_Issue_7_Changes.pdf Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

Please ignore my last message, the meaning of which must remain tantalizingly obscure. The consequence of having too many open messages on my desktop at once and unwittingly replying to the wrong one. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

considered useful for creating record sets, it should be coded separately in a standardized way elsewhere in the record. Otherwise, something like the following should suffice: http://lccn.loc.gov/75647252, http://marc21.info/element/260, [New York, etc. Elsevier Inc., etc.] Ed Jones

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

be displayed as c1998. It seems to me that the number of strictly transcribed fields is very small. Is this a full list? - title proper - subtitle - statement of responsibility - place - publisher kc Quoting Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu: What we need to capture may be the key phrase here

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:08 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Linked data The transcribed fields correspond to ISBD areas 1-4 and 6 (245, 250, 362 [for serials; other fields for some other

Re: [RDA-L] Dept. to Department -- Library of Congress decision

I've waited 30 years. I can wait a few more months. It's worth recalling that even in the days of the card catalog, when the use of Dept. (like U.S.) conserved precious space on the card, such abbreviations were filed as though they were spelled out, and curiously enough users read them as

Re: [RDA-L] Combining book e-book bibs and RDA prep

advantage of codes in the MARC leader (record label) and 008 to restrict a search to resources instantly available to the user. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [rd

Re: [RDA-L] Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Provider neutral records

General Conference and Assembly (IFLA 2010), 10-15 August 2010, Gothenburg, Sweden. Amanda On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edumailto:ejo...@nu.edu wrote: By shifting to the user the burden of differentiating and selecting among the various versions of a resource, we also

Re: [RDA-L] Provider neutral records

. As a consequence, COUNTER usage reports and similar collection development tools will tend to over-report the popularity of these less-desired versions. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Re: [RDA-L] Provider neutral records

their differences stand out? Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.)

Re: [RDA-L] Copyright sign

The copyright sign is part of the Extended Latin (ANSEL) character set, which is one of the MARC-8 character sets. http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specchartables.html -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Consolidated ISBD and RDA double punctuation

punctuation, triggered by the presence of tags and subfield codes. For example, the presence of a 250 field would have triggered a . -- _preceding_ the data in that field; the presence of a 250 subfield $b would have triggered a / preceding the data in that subfield. Ed Jones National

Re: [RDA-L] Consolidated ISBD and RDA double punctuation

From: J. McRee Elrod [...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:59 PM To: Ed Jones Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Consolidated ISBD and RDA double punctuation Ed Jones said: If USMARC and its successors had been designed

Re: [RDA-L] FRAD user tasks in RDA

ALA Representative to the Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA At 05:12 PM 6/29/2010, Ed Jones wrote: I notice that RDA 0.0 uses ?clarify? and ?understand? rather than the ?contextualize? and ?justify? used in the FRAD text. Is this intentional? If so, will FRAD

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

, in the latter as an attribute of the work, necessary to differentiate it from others of the same title. We're just not used to disambiguating the string. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

In practice, it will be a string that is part of a uniform title (Germany in the example below): Catholic Church. [Treaties, etc. Germany, 1933 July 20] -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca]

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

Ideally, a future data entry system would automatically search a place string against a standard database and supply an appropriate URI, etc., to accompany or replace (as appropriate) the transcribed data. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

it? Early days yet. Ed From: Karen Coyle [li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:15 PM To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access; Ed Jones Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities Quoting Ed Jones ejo

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

Miserables were entered in an added entry in the bibs you mention, that relationship is indeed already described. Jonathan Ed Jones wrote: This will indeed be a challenge if/when we move to a Scenario 1 RDA implementation (with work/expression records). To take one example, the musical known

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

, but then neither are elevators necessarily required in tall buildings. The stairs will do. (3) Indeed -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:36 AM To: Ed Jones Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:03 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities Quoting Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu: I guess my problem is I don't see a problem. It makes perfect sense

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

structure. Again, I'm only proposing this interpretation. I arrive at it by sort of reverse-engineering RDA. Ed -Original Message- From: Karen Coyle [mailto:li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:30 AM To: Ed Jones Cc: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: RE: [RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities Quoting Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu: I guess my problem is I don't see a problem. It makes perfect sense to me that FRBR treats these as relationships between entities when it is useful to do so and as attributes

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

descriptions--the relationships are conveyed to the human user but may evade the machine. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:48 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities Quoting Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu: Only identifiers and, less happily, preferred access points can provide a formal entity--relationship

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

competing specific contexts, FRBR-oo may be the most successful model for managing the crosswalks, etc., between those contexts. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Myers, John F

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

they are good enough for our own distinct purposes. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Bernhard Eversberg Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:48 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Re: [RDA-L] About an LDR/18 code vs, 040$erda

by code i in LDR/18 (if a system wanted to strip such punctuation for its internal storage or, conversely, add it). Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and granularity

of the discrete elements are not represented by controlled values. (Hence the value of any result set based on a search on those elements involves a certain amount of serendipity.) Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] (Online) qualifier for series

of additions to the title of the work realized in the expression (e.g., War and Peace becomes Война и мир. English). Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Wednesday

Re: [RDA-L] Instruction

less than people hope, on the one side, or fear, on the other. Of course, if an appropriate format ever emerges to carry RDA records-and is widely adopted-all bets are off. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles

would throw up my hands and run away. They don't have that choice. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby Sent: Thursday, July

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles

PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles Ed Jones wrote: Of course, in the interest of efficient machine mapping, wouldn't it be more sensible to record uniform titles (at least those that are components of work or expression identifiers) in 1XX $t rather than

Re: [RDA-L] Urls in access fields

this. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) PS: It should also be recalled that what we're calling URIs for persons, etc., within our community derive from numbers originally assigned for ordering printed card sets. Their primary purpose is still inventory control, even if now virtual

Re: [RDA-L] Preferred access points for Expressions

to reform the way we create authority records, which remains anchored in the needs of card catalogs. Thom Hickey did a presentation on VIAF at ELAG 2008, and the PowerPoint can be downloaded at http://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/file/formulier/profielelaglt_i00117278_00 1.ppt Ed Jones National

Re: [RDA-L] Preferred access points for Expressions

My understanding of the last sentence of 6.27.1.1 is that the instructions given under 6.27.3 are applied only for new expressions of an existing work (not for the first expression), i.e. the instructions relate to distinguishing these new expressions from the first one. Ed Jones National

Re: [RDA-L] Access points. Was: RDA comments

-level identifiers by some FRBR-based criteria. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Eversberg Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:37 AM

Re: [RDA-L] Open development : an example

Thanks, Bernhard. This is extremely useful in reviewing RDA. One can discover relatively easily whether the instructions work together or whether additional modifications will be necessary. In lieu of an online RDA at this stage, your prototype is a godsend. Ed Jones National University (San

Re: [RDA-L] RDA full draft - access to site

I would recommend people download Karen Coyle's ZIPped copy. It's quick and easy. http://www.archive.org/details/ResourceDescriptionAccessrdaDraftNov.2008 Just click on the HTML link. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

[RDA-L] Language of text strings in RDA

. Ed Jones Assistant Director, Assessment and Metadata Services National University Library 9393 Lightwave Avenue San Diego, California 92123-1447 +1 858 541 7920 (voice) +1 858 541 7997 (fax)

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

records for items digitized under the various GBS library projects, then there will be a synergy between GBS and Open WorldCat to mutual advantage, and users of GBS will be able to exploit the particular strengths of each. Ed Jones National University (San Diego) -Original Message

[RDA-L] Variant series titles in RDA

in the bibliographic record for a member of the series. Otherwise, users searching under variant series titles will not be able to find a specific resource described in the catalogue that is searched under a title appearing in that resource (3rd RDA objective under Responsiveness to user needs). Ed

Re: [RDA-L] Variant series titles in RDA

which form is standard and which is variant and and provides access from both? Why add options to do inefficiently what certain agencies have decided isn't worth doing effectively? Wasn't the point that the agencies thought the data lacked value? - Original Message - From: Ed Jones

Re: [RDA-L] Variant series titles in RDA

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:59 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Variant series titles in RDA Ed Jones wrote: To give one example of the problem: Berger's Duo for violoncello and piano is part of a series that is identified

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

Jim Good questions. Remember that I was projecting ten years down the road, several years after the dawning of the Age of Aquarius... I didn't mean to imply that the information in a FRBR/RDA record is sacrosanct. Both FRBR and RDA are derived from existing practice, and I expect that as

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

mechanisms to data about a subset of offline resources). Ed Jones National University (San Diego)

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

of the whole. As for what we may lose, this is always a danger, no matter what we do. An item in the current issue of the journal _Science_ describes researchers' citation behavior as becoming narrower as journals move online (DOI: 10.1126/science.321.5887.329a). Ed Jones National University (San Diego

Re: [RDA-L] Full Draft of RDA Delayed

into which RDA will be introduced is not very easy to model, and I don't envy ALA Publishing in their efforts to do so. Ed Jones National University (San Diego) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [RDA-L] [s.n.] used by Amazon; not confusing after all?

My guess would be that the metadata Amazon received for this book was library metadata rather than publisher metadata (since the latter would have identified the publisher). I would NOT assume from this that Amazon thought S.N. was anything other than a publisher name. -Original Message-

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:17 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project Ed Jones wrote: RDA is meant to appeal to a variety of user communities, and some of them may opt not to apply some

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: Letter from Deanna Marcum and Joint Statement on RDA

Does the statement below supersede the October 2007 agreement on coordinated implementation of RDA among the BL, LAC, LC, and NLA? Or will implementation outside the US be suspended as well pending the outcome of the six-month review by LC, NAL, and NLM? Ed Jones National University (San Diego

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

that, I think this is more a problem of MARC 21's double-duty datafields (specifically 245 and 440) than of RDA. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

for those two elements--then it becomes a MARC problem. Jonathan Ed Jones wrote: This is an artifact of the card catalog, where such double-duty elements made perfect sense. The elements involved are typically the title of the resource being described and/or the title of the resource of which

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:46 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project True: I had forgotten RDA 1.8. -Original Message- From: Resource

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

guidelines for creating metadata? I mean, there's nothing to prevent a given implementation community from ignoring RDA entirely and doing whatever they want. But that sort of defeats the purpose of RDA if we're _counting_ on that, no? Am I missing something? Jonathan Ed Jones wrote: Of course

Re: [RDA-L] RDA resource (?)

Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Eversberg Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:54 AM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA resource (?) Ed Jones wrote: To me resource corresponds to Vorlage in RAK-WB, and focus of the description may

Re: New works and new expressions (was Cataloger scenarios added to wiki)

bibliographic element in RDA will presumably be related to a given FRBR Group 1 entity? Ed Jones From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martha Yee Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:35 PM

Re: Cataloger Scenarios added to wiki

record? Wouldn't the link occur at the level of the most abstract entity that was appropriate, i.e. the work level, since the component works in the collected stories would presumably remain constant through the levels of abstraction? Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original

Re: Unexploited richness of cross references

-contained, as is implied by the term catalog. I try to look at RDA in this context. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas Sent

Re: New description - another hard question

This might be reworded as Changes signaling a new manifestation -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:48 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject:

Re: Language simplification

I would further simplify it: 6.1.4.1.2 In constructing a variant access point for a work, include the preferred access point for a person, family, or corporate body whenever this has been included in the preferred access point for the work (see 6.1.1.1-6.1.1.6). Ed Jones National University

Re: Variant access points?

These should all represent variant access points on records for works (authority records in the current system). Part of the confusion may arise from the fact that examples under RDA instructions tend to exclude elements that are not addressed in the related instruction, so in the first two

Re: Compilations

forever on the finer points, but in practice we'll muddle through. Ed Jones National University (San Diego)

Re: Sentence case vs. Title case

Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Ralph Papakhian Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:21 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L

Re: Direct vs. inverted display of names

a reason it's called natural order). Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on behalf of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Sun 1/20/2008 8:15 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Direct

Re: Future of authority control?

Actually, while MARC21 lacks an explicit content designator for forename in personal name heading fields, the comma in subfield $a can act as a surrogate when converting from MARC21 into a format that treats forename as a discrete element. Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource

Re: Future of authority control?

with structured data that makes this kind of guessing unnecessary, because it will always be imperfect. Jonathan Ed Jones wrote: Actually, while MARC21 lacks an explicit content designator for forename in personal name heading fields, the comma in subfield $a can act as a surrogate when converting from

Re: Future of authority control?

-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Future of authority control? Ed Jones wrote: Of course, this brings up another question. We currently use surname, forename as a default display. Is there any way to generate a natural order display from our data? I suspect not. The rule that would give us Mark Twain

Re: Future of authority control?

display forms for different catalogs. kc Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Ed Jones wrote: Of course, this brings up another question. We currently use surname, forename as a default display. Is there any way to generate a natural order display from our data? I suspect not. The rule that would give

Re: RDA chapter map?

The mapping of previously released drafts to the new structure of RDA will be found on pages 23-26 of the cover letter to the current draft (sections 2-4, 9) Ed Jones Bibliographic and Metadata Services Coordinator National University (San Diego, Calif

Re: RDA chapter map?

body can be said to create a work. Ed Jones Bibliographic and Metadata Services Coordinator National University (San Diego, Calif.) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Alternate titles

. This level of granularity seems unlikely. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on behalf of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 9:09 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L

Re: Order of sections in the new RDA document

Remember that RDA is being optimized as an online tool (with hyperlinks, pop-up definitions, etc., rather than references to later or earlier sections). Although a print version will be published, the online version will presumably drive the design. Ed Jones National University (San

Re: gender terminology

This is an authority record for George Eliot from the BNF: Eliot, George (1819-1880) pseudonyme forme internationale Nationalité(s) : Grande-Bretagne Langue(s) : anglais Sexe : féminin Responsabilité(s) exercée(s) sur les documents : Auteur Naissance : 1819-11-12, Arbury Hall

Re: gender terminology

And here is the record for Jan Morris. Note the absence of an element for Sexe (implying no value has been supplied): Morris, Jan (1926-) forme internationale Nationalité(s) : Grande-Bretagne Langue(s) : anglais Responsabilité(s) exercée(s) sur les documents : Auteur Naissance : 1926

Re: Kevin Randall on need for statement of responsibility

Ripley Published: Stuttgart : Reclam, 2005. Herbert Geisen, editor Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on behalf of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Thu 12/6/2007 3:50 PM To: RDA-L

Re: LC WG Report: Section 4 comments by Martha Yee

Looks like a PRECIS string to me. Derek Austin would be pleased. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:31 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA

LC WG draft report

The draft report and a cover letter are now available for review at: http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/news/draft-report.html

RDA Implementation

According to a news release posted on the JSC website, the four principal national bibliographic agencies (BL, LAC, LC, and NLA) will work together towards a common implementation of RDA by the end of 2009. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/jsc/rdaimpl.html Ed Jones National University

Re: Catalog use research

, should be added to the bibliographic record. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:53 AM To: RDA-L

Re: RDA article in _Feliciter_

minimum) and optionality are for implementation of the code and not for the code itself. Ed Jones National University (San Diego, Calif.) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myers, John F. Sent

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