I couldn't figure this one out. Andy's compound used a Select Case and a
rotate vector to convert the orientation of the null to a vector (Thanks
Andy!). I was wondering if you could elaborate on your method if you have
time. Learning the different ways to do things in ICE could come in handy in
Oh thanks Steven,
now i have found another way which is compatible to older versions.
Stephan
2013/4/6 Steven Caron car...@gmail.com
hey stephan
check this out, new in 2014
Compositing comes in many flavors – and what to use will depend on your
preferences and needs.
The main aspect is how nodal it is.
On one hand of the spectrum you have “hardly or not at all” and that is where
AE and Combustion (remember me?) sit.
Easy to get into for those who come to graphics
Just to expand on what Matt said:
If you want a direction with any object in ICE, the easiest way is to get
it's global kinematics and pipe that into a 'Matrix 4x4 to Vector 3D' node.
The node will spit out 4 vectors - ignore the one labeled 'translation' and
pick one of the 3 depending on what
Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody mentionned the Fx Tree. Is it
completly out-dated ?
Le 07/04/2013 12:03, pete...@skynet.be a écrit :
Compositing comes in many flavors – and what to use will depend on
your preferences and needs.
The main aspect is how nodal it is.
On one hand of the
Yes, it is - and this is coming from one of it's biggest evangelists!
There are still cases where it's integration provides great opportunities
unachievable outside the package, but those aside, it pretty much dead in
the water... :/
DAN
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:41 PM, olivier jeannel
Hopefully if nothing else this AE Maxon collaboration might prod them into
realising just what a great thing they had and forgot..
From: Dan Yargici [danyarg...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 April 2013 01:47 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: This is
This is mostly aimed at Jeremie, but i thought i'd just send it to the
whole list because i'm sure a ton of people are interested in what has been
happening to it.
I am just curios to know if there is a timeframe for 2.0, and if it will
ever be released.
Just fiddled around with the system some
/Hopefully if nothing else this AE Maxon collaboration might prod them
into realising just what a great thing they had and forgot.. /
Which is ?
Le 07/04/2013 14:15, Angus Davidson a écrit :
Hopefully if nothing else this AE Maxon collaboration might prod them
into realising just what a
The FXTree.
The FXTree desperately needs a complete overhaul. I'm guessing most people
don't even know it exists.
It's one of those things that could help sell Softimage to smaller shops
who don't want to spend the money on Fusion or Nuke, but still need some
compositing.
-PG
On Sun, Apr 7,
Don't expect that to
happen.
Fusion / Nuke / AE are the only options, including Autodesk Composite
which is very unstable.
Christopher
Paul Griswold
Sunday, April 07,
2013 9:54 AM
The FXTree.
The FXTree desperately needs a complete overhaul.
I'm guessing most
I'm saying - when someone is looking to set up a new shop has a limited
amount of investment to deal with. Having a modern version of the FXTree
becomes a selling point if it does most of what you need and is included
with the software. The argument would be - for now, lets put the money in
There are still potential new customers to invest in XSI, no ? I blindly
believe I'm not a dying race.
Not sure an hypothetic Fxtree rebuild would save SI, though. It's just
too bad it has been completly abandonned, with no new (even small)
improvements.
Since we're a Particle software, I'm
Trust me, I've dealt with investors setting up a budget for a new company.
If you can save $5k per seat by simply picking one package over another, it
will get noticed. I've been trying to get Autodesk to realize that for a
long time. New companies spring up all over the world every day, so
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:
There are still potential new customers to invest in XSI, no ? I blindly
believe I'm not a dying race.
not sure.. XSI was just 450$ for four years and people hesitated to
get it anyway.
It should have taken the
I would second this, though I dare say Blur keeps Jeremy ever so busy.
truly beautiful piece of kit
On 7 April 2013 14:41, Octavian Ureche okt...@gmail.com wrote:
This is mostly aimed at Jeremie, but i thought i'd just send it to the
whole list because i'm sure a ton of people are interested
GEAR is fairly rock solid
as it stands. I do hear your woes otherwise :)
Christopher
Sebastien Sterling
Sunday, April 07,
2013 2:13 PM
I would
second this, though I dare say Blur keeps Jeremy ever so busy.truly
beautiful piece of kit
Yes I remember that 450$ offer, it was limited (less option than
advance) if I remember correctly.
I remember there was a lot of discussion on xsi base around this as well.
... Well, the good news is price doesn't do everything.
And for the rest, Asia is the future hoppefully.
Le 07/04/2013
FX Tree like Composite
were left behind. It's not that you can't do stuff in either of these,
you may run into problems in your pipeline / workflow that will halt
everything and you'll be left to switch programs, with that in mind why
not choose between Ae \ Fusion \ Nuke \ EtC ?
I know AE
not sure.. XSI was just 450$ for four years and people hesitated to
get it anyway. It should have taken the market by storm at that point. I've
got a
lot of opinions on all subjects - :P - but I'm really not sure why that
didn't happen.
Theres one very big difference between then and now .
Good points.
Angus Davidson
Sunday, April 07,
2013 3:00 PM
not sure.. XSI was just
450$ for four years and people hesitated toget it anyway. It should
have taken the market by storm at that point. I've got alot of
opinions on all subjects - :P - but I'm really not
Thanks Peter, that works great! The problem I was having was that I was
trying to plug in the Ori data into the Matrix to Vector node. This seems to
be my biggest stumbling block with ICE. I know what needs to be done, but
sometimes I just can't figure out what nodes need to be plugged in to what
Paul: If you export the fbx as 2010 in Softimage the animation will work in
Fusion as well.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Paul Griswold
pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote:
Fusion is great with Softimage it's 3D environment is fantastic.
Getting things back and forth isn't as
Thanks - I'll give that a try. I know the Eyeon guys complain that
Autodesk doesn't adhere to the FBX standards (even though didn't AD come up
with FBX?) and so Fusion's FBX support isn't 100%.
It'd be nice to have Alembic in both..
-Paul
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Mikael Pettersén
Kaydara created Filmbox in the 1990s. FBX is the Filmbox format.
http://aucache.autodesk.com/au2011/sessions/6341/class_handouts/v1_DG6341_Montgomery.pdf
Filmbox became Motionbuilder in 2002.
It takes some getting used to. Peter's approach is far simpler and direct
than mine.
What I do is take a global axis (x,y or z based on the user's choice) and
then rotate it to match the orientation of the null as given by the 3x3
orientation matrix (kine.global.ori). Where Peter accesses the 4x4
I would argue your biggest stumbling block is more not knowing the math
fundamentals involved, and then thinking it's because you don't know what
nodes do what, when if you knew those fundamentals you wouldn't be left
wondering in first place.
I mean absolutely no offense with this, Sam, just
The FxTree is not dead of course. Every components of XSI can be improved
at any time by the Softimage team.
Improved by adding feature to the existing code or improved by creating a
new version of the component (like when ICE replaced the old particle
system).
FxTree will be dead the day it will
Sam - Raffaele is right. Hopefully someone
can give you guidance, ICE is not easy if you don't know the math. I'm
still learning and studying and have made a step up :)
Christopher
Raffaele Fragapane
Sunday, April 07,
2013 5:39 PM
I would argue
your biggest stumbling
How many people on this list use FXTree for Active work ?
Just people using XSI and doing rendering related stuff and knowing the
FxTree :).
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Christopher christop...@thecreativesheep.ca
wrote:
Gullaume - There are two meaning to 'dead'
Dead as in it's not
Though, saying that, ICE is one of the bast ways to learn the fundamental
maths anyway. You just have to be a nosy bastard and visualise anything
you're not fully understanding (with the core nodes, that is, ignore the
compounds as much as you can unless you're in a rush) until you can see the
Group comments are like embedded laTEX doco in your code. Something you do
when everything is done, or close to, and in good order for somebody else
to pick up, or to remind yourself of this or that hack or workaround or
creating visual sets inside the graph.
It was never a very good comment on
Wikipedia may confuse more
then help. Visualizing data in ICE helps I wouldn't disregard it.
Like giving you a math problem with blind folds on, if you can't see the
question how can you answer it.
Everyone has there own way of learning, then again to completely flip
someone the finger
Do you use the FXTree
Guillaume, actively ?
Some on the list grew with FXTree while others do there work in a
compositing program. Whatever rocks your boat, I suppose.
Christopher
Guillaume Laforge
Sunday, April 07,
2013 7:04 PM
How many people on
this list use FXTree
Personally I do most of my 2D comps in Nuke,
(only mostly because of the rather short bug/feature section of my
post)
So the previously discussed (if only) points that have been made about
not needing Nuke -if only- there would be a *bit* of efforts made on
it, were quite valid.
But for
You are most likely correct on that. I never did very well in math. I've
probably learned a lot more about math since I've been using Softimage, than
I ever did in school (My high school math teacher spent most of his time
reading Isaac Asimov instead of teaching, so that may have something to do
I've never been at home learning maths from a book, but I found Khan
Academy videos to be really handy. The site's all changed since I used it
but it looks like all the vector/matrix stuff is in the Linear Algebra
section and the physics video can be pretty handy for applying the maths as
well.
Mathematics for Computer Graphics, 2nd edition, by John Vince. End of Story.
Best intro book on the subject you can get if you're starting from near
zero.
Pre-Calc for dummies is also pretty decent for a less CG-ish, more general
easing into maths. It's meant for high-school going to college
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
Mathematics for Computer Graphics, 2nd edition, by John Vince. End of
Story.
Best intro book on the subject you can get if you're starting from near
zero.
I agree on this suggestion and was also led to
I guess my biggest problem is that I don't know what I need to know, which
makes it hard to find answers. I search the internet when I get stuck, but
there seems to be little out there when it comes to my specific problems.
Anyway, that Kahn Academy is very cool. I had never heard of it before,
Thanks Raffaele and everyone else! Lots of good stuff to keep me busy for a
while.
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele
Fragapane
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:21 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject:
What does the FX Tree lack
compared to AE / Nuke ?
Christopher
Jason S
Sunday, April 07,
2013 8:02 PM
Personally I do most of my 2D comps in Nuke,
(only mostly because of the rather short bug/feature section of my
post)
So the previously discussed (if only)
I think ICE has tremendous potential as a tool for learning math in a fun and
immediately rewarding way, so much so that if I were a parent I'd be pushing
hard for my (hypothetical) kids school to adopt it as a teaching tool.
After seeing a lifetime of expensive and largely ineffective
I guess my biggest problem is that I don’t know what I need to know, which
makes it hard to find answers. I search the internet when I get stuck, but
there seems to be little out there when it comes to my specific problems.
Anyway, that Kahn Academy is very cool. I had never heard of it
I bought the $450 version (XSI Foundation). It was a great bargain, but
looking back I can see now that the lack of ref models in that version was
pretty limiting and I could see why more experienced people would avoid it
just for that reason.
On a related note, I think it's a shame they stopped
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