Let's not start the Joe Black/Nick Whited/"whoever the hell he is" thing on
here. This guy or these guys or who or whatever apparently wants to see his
name on each and every track board or discussion list. It's been going on
all summer. Let's just please ignore him/her/it.
Alan
From:
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college training level is below there high school level so they don't
improve.
Alan
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Words to live by. The 9 most important words in running and life:
"...never putting limits on how good you can be."
Alan
"The only one who limits you is you."
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"And the top 3 get to go if they have made the standard."
Tell that to Joe "Mr. Badluck" Lemay...:)
Truth is there is good and bad with any selection procedure we use. It's
very simple. No matter what the selection procedure is you know it ahead of
time so just go out and perform to your best
There aren't many "real" XC courses in the US. Give me a creek to run over
or a downed tree to jump over...that's "real" XC. A lot of college XC
courses are run on what I like to call "grass tracks".
Alan
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Just curious, I wonder what the payout was for this race? Is Dan making more
$$ with running now in the ultras or was his marathoning more lucritive?
Alan-still feeling high and disoriented from one of the if not the most
grueling, hottest, humid, fry an egg on the sidewalk XC race I've ever
Another Olympic sport that make you shrug your head: Trampoline
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After 3 years on this list I am finally going
It's been my understanding that a lot of Kenyans like to "play" with the
media by telling them of these 5 and 10 mile runs to school. I've known and
run with a handful of Kenyans and they agree. Don't believe everything you
hear.
Alan
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It's funny how some of us over here in the USA complain about our system
when we have one of the fairest in the world. Most countries only send
athletes who have a shot to medal, much less top 8. If we used the "top 8"
or "make the final" qualification then our distance crew would be pretty
Oh yes, we should wait till they are in their mid 30's when their strength
and speed have been dimished. Mistakes? Our mistakes have been waiting too
long to enter the marathon. Muscle strength starts to decline around age 25.
Strength is of the upmost importance in marathoning. Am I mistaken
Saw this story on a news program last night. A guy in a bar up near the
Canadian border, the Olypics were on live, no one was watching. The guy said
something to the affect of "I got tired of watching after the last scandel."
Another guy not close enough to the border to get Canadian TV says
Helps to know you can out-kick anyone in the field regardless of pace.
Anyone else know of a guy who has clicked off a :25 last 200 at the end of a
fast 10k? He has milers speed. The marathon might become very scary when he
moves up. Because of the likes of Geb and Terget the 10k has become a
the marathon can run that far without injury before we worry
about him changing the nature of the event.
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Given that he won't be wearing spikes on the road I doubt the hard surface
will be much of a factor. You are right, Geb doesn't seem to possess the
strength that Tergat has given their XC abilities, though some people have
trouble in cross because of the inability to be able to get into a
I wonder what Mr. Entine has to say about this? Open mouth, insert foot
Entine. Maybe, just maybe, genetics isn't as important as some people think.
Then again maybe Kenteris's great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather
was from East Africa...there ya go Entine, he may be .0001% East
That was also about half a century ago. Racing has become more specific now.
Of course Zatopek also won the 5k and 10k gold that year, something that
even Geb can't do.
Alan
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Very shocked. Especially Geb. Tergat I can see because he has some darn good
road creditials. Geb on the other hand has been all track now for quite some
time. Tergat with his cross and half-marathon creditials I see as being the
next marathon world record holder, probably in his 2nd or 3rd
Speaking of horrific training schedules. Wasn't Emil Zatopek doing something
like this:
Everyday ran 40 x 400m in training.
Other workouts: 20 x 200m, followed by 40 x 400m, then another 20 x 200m
all followed by a 200m jog recovery.
The man loved pain. He is runner, he is man.
Alan
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...You
I think a good explanation for the recent leap is the addition of pacers,
often world class themselves, in these record attempts.
I wonder, when was the last time you saw a record attempt without a rabbit?
Hell, how about the last time you saw an elite European distance race period
without a
It doesn't have the women's 3k, 5k or 10k listed, but it does have the
women's 1500. Take a look at '97. 9 of the top 10 are Chinese. Next two
years, no Chinese. Someone please call BS on this one.
Alan
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Performance list of the past 25 years. What does this prove if anything at
all? We see both the 5k and 10k records drop dramatically in the early to
mid 90's. Don't jump aboard the EPO bandwagon just yet. Could it be the
rapid use of of rabbits? In the 10k you
Well, when there are over 100 performances this year under the US's best
performance (not counting KK) what do you expect? And folks, these guys
aren't all 50lb Kenyans with legs smaller than my arms. Check out the number
of runners from Japan, Korea, Italy, ect in the top 100 list:
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Subject: t-and-f: The History and Future of Kung Fu in America
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:45 -0800
In 17th and 18th century when Shaolin Kung Fu practice was being codified
Masters would
Grasshoppers move to the top of mountains and meditate all day long. Run
long, run hard when body says so, stay consistant. To be masters of your own
kung fu you must be willing to sacrifice a "normal" life. Half-arse mastery
of kung fu will produce half-arse results. Form kung fu groups, move
Do US road racers, mainly marathoners, really need help? Do we really need
training centers that pay for our room and board, put us through these
grinding tests, coach us, and pamper us like babies? I'm somewhat curious,
did Bill Rogers, Frank Shorter and the other runners of the 70's and 80's
Just some thoughts on what you've said, not meant to be a put down in anyway
or to point out faults. Just some thoughts...
The one major difference between the 70s and today is the Kenyan
factor. Shorter, Rogers, and Pre were hard working athletes but they could
not have done what they did if
Yes, but should the stupidy of the course be the responsibility of the race
director?
Alan
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:04:28 EST
...that after jogging portions of the
Chicago has gotten faster, but let's not forget they changed the course a
little while back and it has only became a "big-time" marathon just
recently. New York and Boston have attracting top runners for years yet the
winning time in those two have stayed pretty much the same.
I believe Teddy
Also interesting is that Bill Rogers mile pr is only 4:16. Of course, I
would think anyone capable of breaking 2:10 would be capable of a 4:00 mile
given the chance. Thing is when you're training for and racing marathons
your mile time seems insignificant. I'm sure we all have a PR in a
Everyone knew coming in what had to be done. You know the system. No system
is perfect. There are flaws with every system. Is this one the best?
Probably not, but every team knows it and knew what had to be done to get
in. You think in the NCAA basketball championship there are teams left out
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the point is guys, that USATF should be funding, in some way, all
levels
of
athletes...read what the initials represent, slowly.louise
My take is this: if you ain't getting funded then
Breathe in, Breathe out...wax on, wax off...good Daniel-son. Congrats to all
the teams at NCAA's. I'd give my right kidney to be able to run in that
race. My comments are this: Arkansas is just simply an XC machine. They know
the forumula and carry it out the best. Colorado does the most with
So what does McDonnell do that nobody else does???...give it up Schiefer
A.C.
My guess is this: tradition. He gets everyone on the same page at the right
time better than anyone. In the eyes of Arkansas there is only one meet
during an XC season. The others are just training runs. You don't
Before all us white boys throw away our running shoes and take up golf I'd
just like to point out that just because a certain race may be genetically
superior in terms of running performance it DOES NOT mean a white dude can't
be a great world class runner. That Greek guy won the Olympic 200m.
This club system can benefit most from a structured regional/national
schedule. Team scores must be kept and promoted to the hilt, and a
complete event schedule should be followed as often as possible (get
some walks in there too!!).
MJR
Agree 100%. The reason why clubs fail in this country is
Jesus H. Christ, about damn time they get out of the stone age. I guess if u
bitch long enough people will listen.
alan
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He's at Life College now. Dont know how he's running. I believe he just
transfered there last year, don't know from where.
Alan
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Date: Tue, 23
Don't they still do this in some races in Europe? Or is it Kenya? I dunno. I
have heard about races in Kenya that are like this. I think...:)
Alan
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calf muscle.
You should stretch and strengthen your leg muscles, but you shouldn't overdo
it. Moderation is the name of the game.
Alan Tobin
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ort are eaten alive out at sea.
Instead of whining about "our kids having too many options" or "our kids not
growing up at altitude" or this or that we should make the best of what we
have. We should follow the example made by other sports.
Alan Tobin
http://www.mariusbakken.com
I often find it funny that a lot of XC races are run over flat, clipped
grass courses. Even worse is the multi-loop courses such as Worlds. I think
to qualify as an XC course you have to jump, scramble, or wade through
something. I can think of only 3 XC races in my life that were "true" XC
Mmm...I think you just may have hit what just may be the plague of
American distance running...;) Sort of the whole "Why do one thing great
when you can do 2 or 3 things good?". Don't race, train. Train more, race
less. Some of the best marathoners in the world only run 2 or 3 races all
I think that it's pretty obvious that water is good for you and coke is bad
for you when it comes to any sort of athletic performance. I drink my fair
share of carbonated drinks so I try to drink a little more water at night to
compensate for the dehydration. In my experience the caffeine in
The bad thing about caffeine is that it dehydrates you, but I think if you
take enough water with the caffeine that you should be fine. The bad thing
with coke is the carbon-dioxide and acidity...defizzing the cola gets rid of
that to some extent, not sure about the acidity though.
Alan
Agree. For the most part, after college, if you want to be successful in
distance running you'll have to basically become a bum or run really really
fast right out of college and pick up a sponsor. If you aren't fast enough
out of college you have to sacrifice a lot in order to become faster.
Don't know the official height, but back in high school we had a meet every
year that had a "steeplechase". It was a 1500m steeplechase, hurdles were
set at the lowest level I think, and the water barrier was nothing more than
a balance beam, baby pool, tarp, and old tires set up a little ways
It is much more
important to develop speed at a younger age because you can't reclaim it
when you're older.
Could someone delete this sentence from existance? Speed before endurance?
M...dunno bout that one..;) That must be why hoards of Africans are
running so well. You must develop a
Good lord, can we just let it be? Maybe every track in America is off by a
fraction of an inch? That would make all times fraudulent. Maybe they all
would have ran faster on today's synthetic tracks. It doesn't really matter.
They ran the race, they recorded times, it's a done deal.
Alan
It's not the fast time that makes us question these marks. It's the out of
nowhere appearance that makes us question these marks. Most of these Chinese
marks ('93, '97) were set at their Chinese Games by women who weren't big on
the world scene beforehand and then disappeared for the most part
Could be wrong, but I believe Weldon Johnson qualified for the marathon and
the 10k and ran both. He was also allowed into the 5k because of some
strange rule that says if you qualify in one event you can compete in an
adjacent event. I think it was him. Could be getting the name wrong.
Alan
Well, it's old news that Kenyans, mainly Kalenjin's, dominate distance
running today. Their evolution has made them superb distance runners. They
have lived at altitude for millions of years. They have lived a harder
existance than say the American silver platter life. I would like to make
Testing at
birth wouldn't tell you much since your growth is to a large degree
genetically programmed. It would have to be after the last growth spurt.
Well, then there would be no good way to test for genetic lung capacity
because after birth you will improve your lung capacity by your
Oh god, let's not drag this out into a 100 post discussion about the moral
values of America...because there are none. If a kid wanted to look at porn
all he has to do is wait till mommy and daddy are gone or in bed and get on
the internet...it's not difficult. Now, if the list moderator acted
Scratch that KK comment before. I was looking at the 2000 results with his
name in it, not the 2001...oops.
Alan
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What is interesting is that in both Boston and London an American or Brit
was 6th. I do believe Cox would have been top 5 at Boston if it wasn't for
the cramp in his side. What does Jon have to say about South African
runners? Of course I haven't read your book Jon. I already know what it
Those are the numbers. That difference IS cultural. The interesting
question is why.
Tom Derderian
Could be because our culture has changed a lot in the past 50 years. The
computer and television has produced lazy people. 50 years ago a lot of
people in America still lived a relatively
Now now Jon lets not jump off a bridge here. Never tried to distort what you
have written. I do believe what you have written up to a point. Yes, overall
there will be more great runners from North/East Africa. I never said there
wouldn't. What I replied to was this statement: If you really
Physiological studies show that one
needs to draw on your aerobic energy reserves after about 45 seconds or
so.
So you need your Anaerobic energy for about 1:00 right? I would think that
in just about any race you would need to draw on your aerobic reserves at
some point in time. I would
...than 60 percent of all top distance
races, from the 800 meters to the marathon.
The 800m is not a distance race...repeat, the 800m is not a distance race.
Most if not all 800m runners can be/are great 400m runners. In the 800m you
see African Americans excel: Johnny Gray, South Americans
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RE: Economical reasons.
Would there be more american champions
if winning a major marathon by a US runner was worth $10, 20 million?
My first thought was if that happened I would live in a box and run 200
miles a week right now. Now, why don't I just go
H...I never thought of that. That's a very interesting point. The big
marathons pay big appearance fees to a fleet of Joe-Kenyans so a fleet of
Joe-Kenyans sweep the medal stand. Meanwhile an equally talented
Joe-American gets no appearance fee and fights just for a free entry into
the
Even I am growing tired of this...:) Doesn't matter how many examples we put
out it will always be responded to with the individuals VS group thing. Also
Jon, to say that one person out of a certain group of people will NEVER do
something is a pretty ignorant statement. Not saying that you are
Could be the drug of choice in 50 years? Would there even be a way to
determine if someone has altered their genes? Would it even be banned? How
can you ban something that you have no way of testing for?
Alan
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This is where I agree with genetics 100%. If you are born with an abundance
of fast twitch muscle fibers you will never become a very good distance
runner, although I could see this person become a good middle distance
runner (400-800). From what I've read you can train fast twitch fibers to
Has nothing to do with finally seeing the light. Muscule fiber is just one
of those things, like height, that you can not change. You can train the
fibers to act more slow or fast twitch, but they are still what they are.
So in that sense, yes runners be it long distance or sprinters are born.
I have always wondered where we draw the line on talent. You could argue
that Bill Rodgers who only ran in the 4:30, 9:36 range in high school
didn't have a whole lot of talent. You could also point to many others who
ran comparable high school times yet went on to win many elite races. You
Interesting Jon. I'll give you one thing, you sure do make people think and
bring up interesting conversations. You bring up something interesting. Just
how testable is talent/genetics? If a high school runner runs extremely well
off of limited training (Kennedy) one would assume that runner
Hmmm...can somebody say deja vu? After Jim Ryun came a swarm of American
distance running talent in the 70s and early 80s, especially in the marathon
and mostly from developmental sites such as Athletics West and GBTC. With
today's young American marathon crew and the recent start up of
I think a lot of times what turns a great high school runner into an
afterthought is the change in coach in college. If I was a college coach and
Webb was coming to me I'd be asking Webb's high school coach for a little
help now and then, just so I don't screw things up. Find out what Webb has
Interesting. How long have rabbits been used on a consistant basis? Any
guess what the record would be without rabbits? How about 5k? Would the 5k
record be under 12:50 without rabbits? How about the marathon? If the record
makers had to set the pace themselves what would the distance records
at
record pace, I would call that a rabbit if the finish or not.
Alan
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Of course
An omen?
6 Allan Kipchoge, South Plains College, Levelland, TX 32:45.44
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I'm sure there are a lot of fast sprinters in the NBA, NFL, NHL and
Baseball.
Alan
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I recently heard that
That's a big statement. Of course Tiger's dad probably thinks Tiger could
have beaten Ali in a boxing match and Tiger is bigger than MLK Jr. Tiger's
dad seems a bit off to me. I bet there's a whole skeleton army in that
family's closet.
Alan
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Now that Webb is not going to Worlds I guess it pretty much takes away the
spotlight that track has had since he broke Ryun's record. In a perfect
world, he would have been top 3, got the A standard in Europe went to worlds
and competed. Hopefully the spotlight will still remain, but I'm
Ah yes, but which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Are you a faster
runner because of better form or do you have better form because you are a
faster runner. Compare sprinting to distance running. When running fast your
body adapts and effeciency improves.
Alan
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And then there is Geb and his either left or right arm that he carries lower
than the other. Then going way back you have Zatopek's intense facial
contorsions.
Alan
Hi guys,
How about Bill Rodgers' running form ... he was definitely not perfect
with his right arm flapping in front of his
The goal of such a race is to get from point A to point B. If Ritz can run
the distance at a faster pace than Webb then he will win. What Ritz should
probably do in such a race is to go out like a bat out of hell and drag Webb
along with him. Let's say both can run 8:35, which would be 4:17.5
Book sales down again Jon?
Alan
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My previous remarks stands and is correct. Same routine...Entine posts
dribble, we respond, we respond some more, we get interested, we buy
Entine's book, Entine's pockets get fatter. As Malmo said, same ol shite.
Alan
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of the guys in the top 50 in the world are NOT on some kind of performance
enhancing
Lance is most certainly dirty. The whole sport of cycling is. Lance was
dirty before cancer and is dirty now. It's simply a part of the sport.
Africans, Germans, Russians, Chinese, Americans, no one is clean. From
things I've read and from things I've heard I believe most of the top
runners
One word:
Strides.
IIRC, Harald Norpoth, who was a deadly finisher, was coached by a guy
(forget his name) who advocated long, slow distance and very little
running at race pace or above.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
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Apparently the low altitude of Edmonton hinders performance:
Kenyan Champs-Nairobi
10,000 METERS EL: 1700m
MEN
1 Charles Kamathi Police 27:47.33
2 John Korir AForces 27:49.34
3 Paul Kosgei Nairobi 27:51.87
Edmonton
Altitude physiology is not voodoo. I didn't make these rules. The great
Kung-Fu master did, so who am I to say Altitude Schmaltitude...
chapman
Apparently some people didn't listen to the great Kung-Fu master (yes this
is a repost):
Kenyan Champs-Nairobi 1700m alt:
1 Charles Kamathi
. Kennedy's time in office has changed everything if you
want to know the truth.
-Dan
That's a rather large statement for someone who was only in office for 2
years. Like most presidents he did a lot of talking, but these guys actually
did something:
Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S Truman,
Who's to say that these Kenyans are actually 16-19? There's a reason why
Kenyans tend to drop in times when they are in their mid 20s...1. Are
actually probably 30 and not 25, 2. After so many years of top level
running, whether you start at 16 or 20 you tend to fizzle out. Check road
race
Let's also note that altitude has a smaller affect on those born and raised
at high altitude and those whose recent ancestors were born and raised at
high altitude. Just look at the Kenyan Champs in Nairobi compared to the WC
in Edmonton. Still, HG will probably be in the 59-61 range very soon
A funny note: In this one annual meet in high school there was a 1500m
steeplechase, but the barriers consisted of hurdles and the water pit was a
gymnastics balance beam and a kiddie pool covered by a tarp and secured with
old tires on the infield. I would guess the hurdles were set at the
Because the injury rates are higher and the risk of never being able to
compete later is higher and because the succsess rate is so low. To be
clear for every one kid that is good at 15 there are thousands who lie in
a waste land of burnout and injury.
That is precisely the reason why Kenya
I can think of many young kids who run competitively in road races during
elementary and middle school age. Problem with most is that they lose
interest, they burnout so to speak.
Alan
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Never said it was bad. The reason why Kenya is so dominant is BECAUSE they
have thousands burn out. I'm all for young kids running hard at a young age,
but only if they want to. I know many young kids who join local running
clubs in their youth. If in order to have 10 medal-caliber runners we
I'm calling BS on this one, must be a typo. Surely someone would have taken
off? Someone not sure about his kick would have taken off sometime during
the race.
Alan
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Today's 5 year old's are too busy talking on their cell phones, listening to
their MP3's and playing the Sega Super Nintendo Dreamcast Playstations to
even ponder going out for a game of tag. Gone are the days of kids playing
tag, frozen catchers, or just a sandlot game of baseball. When I was
I wonder where 2:19:46 would have been 15-20 years ago? 100th?...maybe? Oh
how the mighty have fallen. If we had 100 runners running an average of
140-50 a week with flirtations with 200 how many sub 2:20s would we have?
Apparently the Japanese already have this answer. I also doubt they took
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Number of factors:
1. Young runners wait to long to start the marathon mambo. Todd Williams
could have broke the US record6 years ago. Look at the marathon men of
the 70s/80s...lotta youngsters putting away the miles, not worried about
losing track speed. We have 3 or 4 sub 2:10 marathon
We see what you are saying about commitment and training levels, etc. and
improvements in those things would help the US situation. But 150, 180 or
200 mpw isn't really what is gonna get this done
/Brian McEwen
100 is better than 70, 130 is better than 100, 160 is better than 130..
Ouch! Wouldn't consistant running on this track produce some wonderful
injuries to the ankle? Gravity is a downward force. When you try to run at
an angle like on that contraption strange things will happen to your ankles.
I don't care what they say. That thing is just wack.
Alan
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