As explained at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPlugin#On_Ubuntu_9.04_.27Jaunty_Jackalope.27
I setup JOSM with wmsplugin, using gnome-web-photo 0.3-0ubuntu2.
But no photo underlay is displayed.
The command line I am using for the plugin is
'gnome-web-photo --mode=photo
John Smith wrote:
2009/11/20 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org:
The command line I am using for the plugin is
'gnome-web-photo --mode=photo --format=ppm {0} /dev/stdout | pnmcrop
-white | pnmtopng'
I had no luck with gnome-web-photo on ubuntu at all, just get and
compile webkit-image
I find the Yahoo satellite imagery useful for tracing in JOSM with
wmsplugin, but when I just want to gaze at stunning sights of Earth's
surface I go to Google, the quality of whose imagery never ceases to
amaze me. I have noticed that in many places, in countries in which
Google does not have
In Potlatch, 'Shift+g' shows only your traces and 'g' show all the
traces (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts).
But the same shortcuts don't work in JOSM and nothing similar is listed
in http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Shortcuts. Is there a way to do
that or
Ciprian Talaba wrote:
You should check Raw GPS data on the download dialog,
but I don't know a way to download just my traces
I didn't need that).
That is what I need - it is sometimes necessary when too many noisy
traces are present and make me wonder which ones I can trust.
veg...@vegard.engen.priv.no wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:32:41PM +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
In Potlatch, 'Shift+g' shows only your traces and 'g' show all
the traces
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts).
But the same shortcuts don't work in JOSM and
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 14:55, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote:
The only drawback is that it depends on always working on the same host.
I often move and I would have preferred a solution that does not depend
on local data but only on what
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason's diary entry last week (http://j.mp/8ESP8o)
stired my interest. Using a few examples, he showed how mapping
everything as an area - or as a volume - makes ultimate sense. Should we
go for it now ?
Mapping the crossing of two roads, four cycleways and four sidewalks all
Shalabh wrote:
using highway tag means giving speed limits.
You don't have to - it is optional.
I am using the path=hiking trail for the trail and would ideally need a
bridge attribute 'yes' within the hiking trail.
Add the bridge=yes tag - it works just fine for that.
Michal Migurski wrote:
I think it will be necessary to retain both lines and areas [..]
Maybe lines and areas each serve a different purpose : areas describe
the physical layout of the world whereas lines describe navigation
paths. So maybe the debate should be re-framed as whether OpenStreetMap
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote:
On 25/11/2009, at 14.11, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
The map-drawing approach is valuable in OSM because it allows us to
indicate residential areas parks, etc. However, in addition, OSM has
a graph-based approach for a description of the network of roads
which makes
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote:
On 04/12/2009, at 06.49, Steve Bennett wrote:
This discussion is reminiscent of other discussions just like it.
Indeed it now reminds me of the mapping everything as areas thread
that I recently started.
There are two orthogonal approaches to mapping in the OSM.
The quality of OpenStreetMap's work speaks for itself, but it seems that
we need to speak about it too - especially now that Google is attempting
to to appear as holding the moral high ground by using terms such as
citizen cartographer that they rob of its meaning by conveniently
forgetting to
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
I've added another OSM graph to the stats page. It shows the % contribution
of ways (current table, no account for history) per editor. It reveals that
95% of the way data is contributed by just 10% of the contributor base. In
fact 50% of way data has
Andreas Labres wrote:
Patrick from talk-at found this by chance:
http://openmaps.eu/
They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow...
I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68, Trackman
and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's internal mail
system; that's
Greg Troxel wrote:
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:
Sam Vekemans wrote:
Where the only way i know to map it is to use a relation and call it
route=greenway and dont have it render on the cyclemap. Just map the
sections as appropriate.
Greenway is the US/Canadianism for cycleway.
Greg Troxel wrote:
like this ?
http://www.mass.gov/dcr/parks/northeast/nash.htm
here, that's definitely 'rail trail'. is that similar to wha you mean
in France ?
Not all voies vertes are rail trails but the ones I mentioned
definitely are.
I did not know rail trail - thanks for that
Steve Bennett wrote:
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Craig Wallace wrote:
But I'd still agree with Shaun - a single GPS trace is not really
accurate enough for adding ways to OSM IMO.
Hmmm...is there consensus on this view? My approach so far has been any
information that is
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
I have noticed that in many places, in countries in which
Google does not have significant commercial interest, even many villages
have part of their street grid mapped. But looking a little closer, this
is a partial mapping of a seemingly random subset of the grid
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Andreas Labres wrote:
Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They
seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow...
I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68,
Trackman and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's
2010/1/5 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk
A structure with 2 nodes one above the other would be necessary for
things like this:
http://www.schmickler-metallbau.de/images/ref/WBH/Niederehe_Leiter.jpg
I believe that one node is sufficient. This node must have no
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
way (level=0) --- node (highway=ladder) --- way (level=1)
Ooops - wrong tag. That should have been :
way (layer=0) --- node (highway=ladder) --- way (layer=1)
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Mikel Maron wrote:
Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making
available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other
sources in the pipeline.
GeoEye has half-meter post-earthquake imagery, but they don't mention
any public availability. A sample, including
Mikel Maron wrote:
Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making
available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other
sources in the pipeline.
I asked Spot Image : they don't mention the earthquake on their site, so
who knows - why no ask ?
Below is the
sara susini wrote:
Scusate ma come funziona?
Ho bisogno di info per la georeferenziazione di foto all'interno di un
percorso GPS gia' georeferenziato (da me) dove trovo istruzioni?
Grazie
Translation :
Excuse me but how does it work?
I need info for geo-referencing photos within
GPS route
Emilie Laffray wrote:
Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause,
colloborating with openmaps.eu http://openmaps.eu is a non sequitur.
Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the
future evolve toward removing the non-commercial clause, or is that
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Mikel Maron wrote:
Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making
available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other
sources in the pipeline.
I asked Spot Image : they don't mention the earthquake on their site, so
who knows
See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dbadwal/diary/9248
What is the procedure to flag that and its author for removal ?
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nicolas chavent wrote:
I am relaying a mapping requirement grounded in Haiti from GIS
practitioners mapping there at the United Nations Office of Coordination
of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA):
NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in
area
Relevant
Philip Shipley wrote:
Is there any tagging that I can add to highways that appear blocked
according to the latest GeoEye so that you automatically identify the
highway as an AvoidArea?
From the WikiProject_Haiti page :
Road blockage
- For small obstacles on the highway which may be
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/North-america/En/grouplist.html mentions
Informations based on the North-america excerpt from the 2009-12-06 05:15.
I seems that various ways of tagging damage is being used. So far I have
seen mentions of :
earthquake:damage=Collapsed_buiding
Patrick Petschge Kilian wrote:
A Tagwatch pass might give us an assessment of what is actually used,
and that might tell if mass harmonization to make the data more
practical for the end users should be considered useful.
I totally agree. Therefore I run a separate tagstat for the haiti
Jonas Krückel wrote:
Hi, ich versuche seit gestern Abend den Autor von dem Tool
http://osm.m0nty.de/ zu erreichen, das wäre perfekt, um die Arbeit in
Haiti zu koordinieren. Weiß jemand, ob das Tool OpenSource ist und wo
wir den Source Code bekommen können? Hat jemand eine andere
Jonas Krückel wrote:
Am 15.01.2010 um 23:06 schrieb nicolas chavent:
* ITHACA
o Data model from ITHACA shp
o Categories - Classes
+ collapsed buildings
+ damaged infrastructure
+ landslide
+ spontaneous
John Smith wrote:
U.S. Diverts Spy Drone from Afghanistan to Haiti From the article:
As part of the Haiti relief effort, the U.S. military is sharing
imagery from one of its high-end, high-flying spy drones, the RQ-4
Global Hawk. [...] “Today we’re going after another 1,000 images,
which will
Jonas Krückel wrote:
Am 15.01.2010 um 23:32 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier:
Talking about the ITHACA data set... I just took a look at the
dedicated Haiti Tagstats and I just found that the import of
earthquake:damage tags has been done with a value of
collapsed_buiding that of course should
Jonas Krückel wrote:
Am 16.01.2010 um 00:08 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier:
[..]
fixme:building=collapsed looks like it should be
earthquake:damage=collapsed_building - but maybe there is a
reason for fixme that I'm not aware of.
[..]
Please have a look at the information here:
http
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Now we have :
tag value uses
earthquake:damage collapsed_building 1,499
fixme:buildingcollapsed 1,492
building collapsed 787
earthquake_damage collapsed
Micha Ruh wrote:
2010/1/16 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org
I tried to
replace building=collapsed with earthquake:damage=collapsed_building
Please don't, it's useless, if not harmful.
Why do you want to replace a simple, understandable, well established
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Micha Ruh wrote:
2010/1/16 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org
I tried to
replace building=collapsed with earthquake:damage=collapsed_building
Please don't, it's useless, if not harmful.
Why do you want to replace a simple
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/1/15 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org
Patrick Petschge Kilian wrote:
tag value usesnodeway
refugee yes 90 2 88
tourism camp_site 86 3 83
isn't this tagging
SlashGeo mentioned http://www.erdas.com/HaitianRelief/tabid/327/Default.aspx
Seeing all the problems had with the variously shifted images we have
seen, this release by ERDAS looks interesting :
We have updated our Online Web Services to incorporate the GeoEye
imagery of Haiti collected on
Frederik Ramm wrote:
[..]
I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
I would rather say osm-crisis or osm-relief - keep it
Steve Bennett wrote:
In short, I need to be able to:
- merge multiple traces
- be able to visually select pieces of a trace to either delete (for
privacy/tidiness) or export
- simplify a trace down to a much smaller number using some smart algorithm
[..]
- Viking: didn't work. Maybe my
Maarten Deen wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Anyone feel like promoting OSM?
Has been done by Stefan de Konink. Reply from the CEO of Nav4All:
OSM has been looked at but is no solution because there is no full
coverage. Stefan asked if Nav4All would cease activities, the reply
was we are still
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Essentially, you tag according to the duck test - if it quacks like a
duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test). This saves you all the work of
describing the species every time. If actually it's a rare Outer
Margie Roswell wrote:
I admit to being disappointed in viewership on this one.
Can anyone help to get the word out about this video?
Those who know about the video are probably using JOSM. Potlach's target
audience who would benefit from the video probably does not read the
mailing lists...
Dave F. wrote:
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Margie Roswell wrote:
I admit to being disappointed in viewership on this one.
Can anyone help to get the word out about this video?
Those who know about the video are probably using JOSM. Potlach's
target audience who would benefit from
simone gadenz wrote:
I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps
background for OSM editing. Is it legal?
http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/
No. You must not use Google as a source for OSM. This would be a breach
of Google's terms of use, it would taint OSM's data and
Dave F. wrote:
Patrick Kilian wrote:
Which forum do you mean by #osm?
Thats certainly the IRC channel on OFTC :
irc://irc.oftc.net #osm
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Patrick Kilian wrote:
Is there a reason why Mapnik's rendering of leisure=marina has change
from a blue area to a dashed border line?
IIRC there was a discussion in #osm which basically went like this:
[..]
ok lets make it a blue dashed line and see who complains.
Count me as a
Richard Mann wrote:
I think routers would be better served if we identify good through
routes (ie the equivalent of highway=primary for motorists), and
record them as relations, perhaps
network=lcn+status=unofficial+signposted=no. But Andy's a strict
objectivist, which rather gets in the
Erik Johansson wrote:
FTR I think you all should map for child strollers and add
ramp=yes/no tag to steps.. :-)
You may be kidding, but that actually is a useful feature for wheelchair
access - wheelchair routing is a special case of pedestrian routing,
that requires this sort of tag...
Pieren wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:36 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
could someone with the ability please add place=isolated_dwelling to
the main map features? Voting has ended on May 13 and the feature was
approved.
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
here is a question from one of my friends,
*what linux-based wifi gps phone would you recommend?*
any suggestions?
Most free : Openmoko.
Best market potential : Android
Best compromise : Maemo... Except that Nokia has orphaned Maemo.
Best hope from my
Steve Doerr wrote:
Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote in message
news:201005221952.30724.roland.olbri...@gmx.de...
- railway=halt is at least in Europe already frequently used with a
different
meaning: station designates stations where trains can begin or
terminate.
halt
Slightly off-topic, but the list's audience might be interested.
You may have used questions and answers sites such as Stack Overflow
(http://stackoverflow.com/) or its siblings - I like them a lot. There
is a proposal for such a site dedicated to geographic information
systems - and it would
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Slightly off-topic, but the list's audience might be interested.
You may have used questions and answers sites such as Stack Overflow
(http://stackoverflow.com/) or its siblings - I like them a lot. There
is a proposal for such a site dedicated to geographic
Matt Williams wrote:
On 22 June 2010 17:44, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 22/06/10 17:35, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
You may have used questions and answers sites such as Stack Overflow
(http://stackoverflow.com/) or its siblings - I like them a lot. There
is a proposal for such a site
Matt Williams wrote:
On 22 June 2010 17:44, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 22/06/10 17:35, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
You may have used questions and answers sites such as Stack Overflow
(http://stackoverflow.com/) or its siblings - I like them a lot. There
is a proposal for such a site
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 23/06/10 13:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Matt Williams wrote:
Especially with things like Shapado (http://shapado.com and
http://gitorious.org/shapado) allowing you to set up our own site
Shapado on an OpenStreetMap-controlled host sounds good to me, and it
seems to me
On 29/11/2011 12:30, Parveen Arora wrote:
the moment when you will ask some one to recommend any of one among
all there will be lot of different opinions, and there are
approximately 500 distros of Linux available which I think is not
required and is wastage of resources, time and energy.
The
On 14/12/2011 02:49, Tobias Knerr wrote:
When writing the mails, I put some effort into personalizing the mail
for the recipient by looking at their user and edits page on osm.org.
Writing in the user's native language also helps a lot. When the user
has no personal page on the wiki, looking
On 15/12/2011 09:10, Mike Dupont wrote:
You have permission to re license all my work outside of kosovo and albania.
You mean permission to re-license all your work for use outside of
Kosovo and Albania, or permission to re-license all your work except
Kosovo and Albania ?
I have created a
On 15/12/2011 12:40, David Groom wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:47 AM
User moonwashed created this way by splitting it from a TIGER way.
He made several more edits to it but the last 20 versions have been by
On 15/12/2011 13:17, David Groom wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:59 AM
But what if the source changes ? When I use high-resolution imagery
to improve areas formerly mapped from low
On 12/21/2011 02:43 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote:
On 12/20/2011 10:11 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
Of particular interest are:
- can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position?
While you are at it, I would
On 30/12/2011 16:05, Thomas Davie wrote:
You're right – it needs to be a bit clearer that there's more than one
map available
I believe that the side-scrolling banner at http://openstreetmap.de does
it quite well.
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Spotted in @openstreetmap's Twitter feed... I don't remember having ever
used a routing service that fast. It is apparently tuned for car
routing... And that's all I can say since the Karlsruher Institut für
Technologie whose homepage is linked from the results panel doesn't seem
to say anything
On 03/17/2012 12:33 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Spotted in @openstreetmap's Twitter feed... I don't remember having ever
used a routing service that fast. It is apparently tuned for car
routing... And that's all I can say since the Karlsruher Institut für
Technologie whose homepage is linked
On 03/17/2012 10:04 AM, Pascal Neis wrote:
did you see this?
http://neis-one.org/2011/07/comparison-routing/
or this
http://neis-one.org/2011/07/comparison-reloaded/
but remember it is a few months old and it seems
that the new version got some improvements too.
I had missed that one - I
On 03/17/2012 02:40 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
I could not drag the route to use the more practical
roads on Seamonkey.
Did you manage with another browser ? The method differs from Google :
left click to create a handle, then you can drag it.
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On 03/17/2012 02:17 PM, Philip Barnes wrote:
The Inverness to Athens route does seem a bit bizarre. Not what I
would have expected.
Crossing the Pennines on the A66 is strange, continuing on the M6 is
the more normal route. Also crossing from the M2 to M20 to get to
Dover is strange, for a
On 23/03/2012 13:47, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
On 3/23/2012 8:36 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be
running a script to automatically replace street name abbreviations
with the full word.
so 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW becomes 1600
On 04/30/2012 08:50 PM, Douglas Musaazi wrote:
The German contributor could have his/her information liked by the
German Electricity board
High-voltage lines are not just for electricity buffs: they are also
highly visible landmarks, so they are of great interest to about
everyone else who has
On 05/29/2012 12:48 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote:
Sorry Emilie, it’s a pity if that creates some loss of data,
but you should take it like a man
I'm afraid she won't.
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On 08/23/2012 07:59 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote:
What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations...
Is it visible publicly legally (either locally or through remote
imagery) ? Is it legal for you to map it, according to the laws of the
country where you are
On 09/18/2012 08:36 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 18/09/12 at 18:29 +0100, Grant Slater wrote:
OSM is not unique, wikipedia too require a dedicated account for bots.
I don't think calling people robots is going to contribute to
improving the atmosphere.
If the cadastre integration was done
On 09/18/2012 05:42 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
The French cadastre imports are, as you know, a rather controversial
subject. In my opinion it is a dataset that doesn't actually increase
the usefulness of the OSM dataset for most users (building outlines
without addresses just don't really help
On 09/19/2012 02:23 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote:
And: why should the DWG contact the french community at first ?
To gain a better understanding of local practices that look dodgy from
the DWG's point of view but may actually be the result of local
consensus grounded in years of debate and
On 19/09/2012 12:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
[..]
Thanks for the level-headed recapitulation - looks like we are moving
forward.
Firstly, the status of the import guidelines needs to become less ambiguous.
At present we have three largely overlapping policies ('Mechanical Edit
Policy',
On 19/09/2012 15:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
It seems that you generally apply the source-tag to the osm object
instead of the changeset comment, but I'd propose to do it the other
way round. There are already tens of millions of objects in the db
with related source-tags
Before we go further with policy edits, perhaps we should make sure that
everyone understands the goals and that there is a consensus about
them... That will make the resulting rules or guidelines more acceptable.
Let's focus on the item that triggered the current debate : the
requirement for a
On 09/19/2012 10:55 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
[1] Of course, I don't mean you personally, Jean-Marc. I have no idea
of your OSM screen name, if you are a Cadastre importer or if you use
an import account. I mean those who have been knowingly ignoring the
import guidelines.
I was not
On 20/09/2012 13:18, Lester Caine wrote:
Go on wiping and reloading every time the source data is updated and
manually merging everything.
Sounds ugly doesn't it ? Because it is. Wouldn't it be much better if
each building from the cadastre had a UUID that could be traced so that
differential
I like this proposal - from my very personal point of view it safeguards
all the conflicting interests and reaffirms essential inflexible
principles while cutting some slack to users who perform small local
imports :
The bot=yes tag identifies the import as such, to help moderators
focus on that
On 27/09/2012 12:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Interesting, I have never heard before of building=yes with wall=no
I just had lunch in an Italian restaurant, which I promptly tagged while
waiting for my dessert... It happened to be located in a
cadastre-imported building in two parts - one
On 27/09/2012 15:29, Simon Poole wrote:
Just so there is no misunderstanding: even taking address tagged nodes
in to account, the addresses / houses ratio is lower and at best not
different than in other countries without countrywide access to
cadastre-like sources. 3% with nodes, 0.6%
On 27/09/2012 16:07, Lester Caine wrote:
France would benefit from a few 'cadastre' importers filling other
details in the areas they are importing :(
In that you agree with most of the opinions expressed on the French list
: contributors using the cadastre generally add other details at the
On 27/09/2012 16:28, SomeoneElse wrote:
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
In that you agree with most of the opinions expressed on the French
list : contributors using the cadastre generally add other details at
the same time, which is one of the reasons why they find using two
different accounts
On 27/09/2012 16:45, SomeoneElse wrote:
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Without the isolated clusters of buildings, how would you know that
some important
roads are missing ?
Visiting the village and walking around it?
Are we now reaching the crux of this discussion ? Do you believe that
local
SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Actually, I think that on-the-ground mapping and the use of aerial
imagery / cadastre data are complementary. There are many things that
you'd miss if you used one exclusively at the expense of the other.
Yes - and local surveyors being the
Isometimes work on Senegal from Bing imagery,and I'll hopefully convince
some Senegalese friends to help me with names and POI. I took a look at
the competition's progress and I have been very impressed : whereas
Openstreetmap could formerly claim better coverage in Africa, it is now
lagging
On 10/18/2012 11:13 PM, Cartinus wrote:
On 10/18/2012 09:44 PM, Christian Rogel wrote:
By the way, could you stand receiving any message in a language you
cannot understand. that seems to be looking for
infuriating the non-English speaking users?
On 10/18/2012 10:30 PM, Eric Marsden wrote:
On 19/10/2012 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
you can't expect people from the project to speak French, German,
Italian, Spanish, Polish and every other language spoken whenever
people want to form a local OSM community (or just map).
That is why intermediaries are needed - and why the
On 19/10/2012 11:36, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
I think we have the same aims, and the HOW TO should be resolved.
I do believe that deep down inside we have the same implicit goals. But
there seem to be a few misunderstanding about how to turn those implicit
common goals into explicit common
On 19/10/2012 11:42, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
On 2012-10-19 at 10:36:40 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
That is why intermediaries are needed - and why the English speakers must learn
to accept the need for international intermediation.
who are these English speakers?
They are you and me
On 19/10/2012 13:07, Alex Barth wrote:
FWIW, I'm interested to see the disagreeing parties to get together and work
out a solution, I'm a friend of subsidiarity, but we clearly have a couple of
OSM-global issues to solve:
- proper tracking of imports given current technical limitations
-
On 19/10/2012 14:35, Cartinus wrote:
On 10/19/2012 08:40 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
I was looking for examples of cultural imperialism - here is a very nice one,
thanks !
You cut off the P.S. No, English is not my native language. and missed
the .nl in my e-mail address
Willing vassals
On 19/10/2012 15:30, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
At least I hope you can stop the flamewar.
Talking about that, members of the talk-fr mailing list are discussing
pragmatic solutions that might bring everyone together at last:
- On the political plane, there is talk about how a qualified
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