petition is now at 450 signatures
:jumping:
500 is round the corner... by the calfaifcheof this week that goal should be
reached!!! =)
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petition is now at 450 signatures
:jumping:
500 is round the corner... by the calfaifcheof this week that goal should
be
reached!!! =)
Tommy27, the message above is spam. Please place any notifications regarding
the number of signers of your petition on
M Henri Day wrote:
2009/9/22 Tommy27 ba...@quipo.it
petition is now at 450 signatures
:jumping:
500 is round the corner... by the calfaifcheof this week that goal should
be
reached!!! =)
Tommy27, the message above is spam. Please place any notifications regarding
the number
if the petition is do useless and if you consider that the umber of signature
is irrelevant, why do you keep wasting your time attcking me and criticize
the petition? :confused:
i think that the reality is that you are afraid of the success of the
petition... 8-O
actually the count is 428 and
Tommy27 wrote:
@The Beaver
thanks for the compliment about my IQ... as you know people with IQ over 140
are considered genious or near genious (
http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/08/the-massive-list-of-genius-people-with-the-highest-iq/
)
actually the number is even higher: 414
@John Boyle
John Boyle wrote:
Tommy27 wrote:
@The Beaver
thanks for the compliment about my IQ... as you know people with IQ over 140
are considered genious or near genious (
http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/08/the-massive-list-of-genius-people-with-the-highest-iq/
)
actually the number is even higher:
gene, all you say is just plonk... plonk... plonk... :confused:
you always use the same word... %-|
at least my numbers change... :-D
actually 421 signatures... :jumping:
500 will come soon!!! :super:
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wonderful explanation, Larry... however it doesn't seem that Gene is ignoring
me since he still keeps commenting this thread despite havinh plonked me
so many times... :thinking:
but let's forget about Gene for a moment and let's analyze your contribution
to the thread...
i see that you Larry
Tommy27 wrote (19-9-2009 23:23)
they won't stop the petition... 423 right now... you see? it never stops
growing!!! =)=^D
Today I saw the petition site...
I am shocked by the shameless, misleading and false lie to promote the
petition.
Then the 'positive' news': it has already 423 supporters
Tommy27 wrote:
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@JB
if you find the petition so useless why do you take so much effort to fight
it?
we got not 401 signatures
:handshake::jumping: =)
Tommy
Could you please concentrate on the main reason for this forum. The
reason is to help
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars,
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 15:35)
In that mail it looks like he writes about attempting to dodge or
camouflage the issue by calling the activity by a different name.
Your suggestion to gather data seems different and very unrelated to
Mathhias' apparent proposal
Rob Clement wrote:
Tommy
Could you please concentrate on the main reason for this forum. The
reason is to help people with problems with the openoffice software.
Please start helping
He is, albeit in a more proactive way then many are used to.
-Lars
this time i'll say just a number: 409. =)
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this time i'll say just a number: 409. =)
409 - Conflict
Indicates that the request could not be processed because of conflict
in the request, such as an edit conflict.
BTW:
Maybe a new pitiful trick by the wicked Ribbonization Gang:
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 12:12 -0700, Tommy27 wrote:
this time i'll say just a number: 409. =)
Please stop this noise.
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this time i'll say just a number: 409. =)
Is that your IQ? Or is there another reason you are too stupid to kill
this thread that nobody is interested in
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this time i'll say just a number: 409. =)
Is that your IQ? Or is there another reason you are too stupid to
kill this thread that nobody is interested in
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thanks for the compliment about my IQ... as you know people with IQ over 140
are considered genious or near genious (
http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/08/the-massive-list-of-genius-people-with-the-highest-iq/
)
actually the number is even higher: 414
@John Boyle
it seems those users
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 20:24, Tommy27 wrote:
i did not offend anybody.
Just because your delusion is that you didn't offend anybody, the
fact remains that your postings have offended people.
the petition is growing minute after minute 373 right now in less than 4
weeks.
Given the
smiley image='anim_claps.gif' text=':clap:' /
@JB
if you find the petition so useless why do you take so much effort to fight
it?
we got not 401 signatures
:handshake::jumping: =)
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Tommy27 wrote (16-9-2009 7:04)
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo usability!!!
P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is 352
OpenOffice.org does not plan to implement the ribbon. A ribbon-like
idea only plays a role in prototyping, together with many other
principles
Tommy27 wrote (16-9-2009 7:04)
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo
usability!!!
P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is
352
OpenOffice.org does not plan to implement the ribbon. A
ribbon-like idea only plays a role in prototyping, together
with many other
Presta, you insult people and are unpolite.
shame on you.
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Op 15 september 2009 23:23 heeft Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl het
volgende geschreven:
Beste Guy,
Guy Voets wrote (15-9-2009 16:34)
I'll sign when the petition is on a legitimate petition site.
Mag ik vragen waar je voor of tegen gaat tekenen?
Persoonlijk vind ik het een slechte zaak.
From: Tommy27 ba...@quipo.it
Subject: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance
To: users@openoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:52 AM
Presta, you insult people and are unpolite.
shame on you.
Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your stupidity. You have been told
In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 10:05:42, Presta Rogerator
prestarogera...@yahoo.com ha scritto:
Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your stupidity. You have been
told over and over and over how to make your voice heard to the
Rennaisance project. You're apparently too dumb to
Tommy27 wrote:
Presta, you insult people and are unpolite.
shame on you.
But he doesn't lie. You need to go away now.
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Tommy27 wrote (16-9-2009 7:04)
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo usability!!!
P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is 352
OpenOffice.org does not plan to implement the ribbon. A ribbon-like
idea only plays a role in prototyping, together with many
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 14:53)
Matthias said much earlier in this thread that what
'renaissance' was about was the implementation (aka copying) of The
Ribbon in OOo, but called by a different name.
[...]
He did not. You obviously missed the mail about that
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 14:53)
Matthias said much earlier in this thread that what
'renaissance' was about was the implementation (aka copying) of The
Ribbon in OOo, but called by a different name. [...]
He did not. You obviously missed the mail about that
@Gene Young
people here's accusing me of being the owner of scam site who illegally sell
OOo...
how these people can move such infamous accuses without any proofs?
i'm not a liar... these people are the real liars accusing me of somthing is
not true.
@Manfred J. Krause
i'm not bulldozing
Tommy27 wrote:
@Gene Young
people here's accusing me of being the owner of scam site who illegally sell
OOo...
how these people can move such infamous accuses without any proofs?
i'm not a liar... these people are the real liars accusing me of somthing is
not true.
You can really twist
Lars,
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 15:35)
In that mail it looks like he writes about attempting to dodge or
camouflage the issue by calling the activity by a different name.
Your suggestion to gather data seems different and very unrelated to
Mathhias' apparent proposal to copy 'The Ribbon',
Tommy27 wrote:
since i think Ribbon suck, i think we should protest against OOo
Ribbonization.
that's my thought and that of the 364 who signed the petition...
you see? the count is always higher!!! :jumping:
With approximately 450,000 users world wide (and I think that is a
conservative
Please drop this entire thread. It is not going anywhere, and is
producing nothing but some annoyance.
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i did not offend anybody.
other people offended me... those people are those who should learn how to
stay in a mailing list.
the petition is growing minute after minute 373 right now in less than 4
weeks.
the number is veryhigh... blog posts on GullFoss never received so much
attention.
Tommy27 wrote:
i did not offend anybody.
other people offended me... those people are those who should learn how to
stay in a mailing list.
the petition is growing minute after minute 373 right now in less than 4
weeks.
the number is veryhigh... blog posts on GullFoss never received so
gene, i should thank you, really!!!
the more you flame this thread, the more it stays on top of the list, the
more users hear about the petition and the more users sign it.
have a nice evening.
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now it is ME offending you? :confused:
incredible... %-|
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At 13:24 16/09/2009 -0700, Tommy Noname wrote:
petition will not stop, i don't care of what you say
This is a fascinatingly irrational pairing of statements - especially
when combined, as they are, in the same sentence. Anyone promoting a
petition must surely need to have confidence that
again the same false accuses...
i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it...
i told ya many times but still don't wanna understand it...
petition goes on despite your accuses...
we got now 337 signatures and it keep growing!!!
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again the same false accuses...
i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it...
If you can't find the authors of the petition, please take a few moments
to create a new one at a legitimate petition service.
No one outside of a small circle of de Icaza types wants
I'll sign when the petition is on a legitimate petition site.
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Tommy27 wrote:
the reasons for the birth of the petition have been communicated to
Renaissance developers on their blog:
http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/prototyping_a_new_user_interface
the majority of comments was negative.
we don't want a Ribbonized OpenOffice, that's it.
Nobody with a
the GUI prototype of Renaissance sucks even more than Ribbon.
the standard GUI is more usable.
this is my opinion and 342 users who signed the petition agree with me.
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no one of the 347 signers (you see, any time i post here the number is always
higher...) has complained about scam sites because no one of them is so dumb
to be fooled by those advertosing.
the only one who are concerned by those scam site are people like you that
don't wanna sign the
Tommy27 wrote:
no one of the 347 signers (you see, any time i post here the number is always
higher...) has complained about scam sites because no one of them is so dumb
to be fooled by those advertosing.
A number of people have complained (on this very list) about the scam
site links.
people signing the petition know what a GUI is, know what a Ribbon and a
Renaissance mean, and most important know that OOo is freeware, so there
will be nobody so dumb to be fooled by those scam links...
when i signed the petition (i think i was numebr 67... actually 348) i did
not even notice
Larry, i make no bucks becuase i have no financial interest with those
sites...
did you stopped a while thinking that by keeping asking over and over again
the same things despite you already got the answer, you are keeping this
topic at the top of the list...
in this way you are promoting the
Tommy27 wrote:
stay tuned, signature 400 is getting closer... i will alert you when it
comes... you don't wanna miss that event, right buddy?
Please, spare us all ...
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Tommy27 wrote:
stay tuned, signature 400 is getting closer... i will alert you when it
comes... you don't wanna miss that event, right buddy?
Please, spare us all ...
And yourself, Tommy27. You make yourself ridiculous, and that all will
be
Pierre wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Some people feel the need to fix something that isn't broken. A similar
situation is developing with the Linux KDE desktop, where apparently
eye candy has become more important than function.
Exactly! And while we're at it, why did they wreck Amarok?
The Beaver wrote:
Tommy27 wrote:
the reasons for the birth of the petition have been communicated to
Renaissance developers on their blog:
http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/prototyping_a_new_user_interface
the majority of comments was negative.
we don't want a Ribbonized OpenOffice,
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo usability!!!
P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is 352
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M Henri Day wrote:
[...]
Gianluca, sidebars are lovely (I keep my Delicious Bookmarks in one) on a
wide-screen monitor, but they can be problematic for those using net books -
something for developers to keep in mind. Best would be an option to allow
one to move panels according to one's
Tommy27 wrote:
any idea, Gianluca, about when a new prototype will be released?
Nope.
I think some of the co-lead in Renaissance project are still on vacation
or just come back.
Indeed, I even don't know if a 0.17 prototype was programmed.
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any idea, Gianluca, about when a new prototype will be released?
i'm curious to see if developers will take into some account all the
negative comments (petition included) received for the previous ones...
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well, IMHO the 0.16 prototype still sucks and stinks a lot of Ribbon...
i hope they will change direction...
all the negative comments and the petition as well (updated count is 317)
are loudly asking for this!!!
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Considering the fact that online petitions are pretty much as useful as
a b-hole on your elbow, I would encourage people to actually communicate
with the project designers as to why this is a bad idea rather than
submit a signature that can easily be faked.
Tommy27 wrote:
PETITION:
the reasons for the birth of the petition have been communicated to
Renaissance developers on their blog:
http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/prototyping_a_new_user_interface
the majority of comments was negative.
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From: Mark C. Miller mr.mcmil...@gmail.com
To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo
Renaissance
you can't stop what is unstoppable.
the petition count is now 296
John Boyle wrote:
To Tommy27: Where does one sign up for this petition? :-[
the petition link is: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprenaissance/
please sign it and ignore advertising links which are only rubbish.
i'd like to see your signatures. we already have 305.
we need to be
2009/9/13 Gianluca Turconi gianl...@letturefantastiche.com
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Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:50 AM
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Renaissance
Well
the best solution IMHO would be to have a double GUI (standard
Renaissance/Ribbon) users could choose. I would certainly keep using the
standard GUI since i consider Renaissance just a waste of space and a loss
of productivity fancy chunky GUI.
that's why i support the petition.
sign it here:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:16:21 -0700, Tommy27 wrote:
Keith Bates-2 wrote:
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for
want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago.
you can't stop what is unstoppable.
the petition count is now 296,
Mark C. Miller wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:16:21 -0700, Tommy27 wrote:
Keith Bates-2 wrote:
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for
want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago.
you can't stop what is unstoppable.
Tommy27 wrote:
Keith Bates-2 wrote:
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for
want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago.
you can't stop what is unstoppable.
the petition count is now 296, despite insults and discredit
Tommy27 wrote:
your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p
Larry or some of his kind might be paid to be the turd in the Internet
swimming pool, but it's no longer acceptable to stay quiet and simply
added more chlorine on the condition that Larry and co float down at
their end of the
2009/9/11 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
Tommy27 wrote:
your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p
Larry or some of his kind might be paid to be the turd in the Internet
swimming pool, but it's no longer acceptable to stay quiet and simply
added more chlorine on the
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for
want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago.
We've heard the opinions and rants, and it's just down to name calling
which the vast majority of subscribers to this list just don't want to
listen to any
Keith Bates-2 wrote:
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for
want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago.
you can't stop what is unstoppable.
the petition count is now 296, despite insults and discredit attempts from
some
Larry Gusaas-4 wrote:
So you are both promoting the advertised Open Office scam on the
petition website. Do the two of you own this fake Official OO.o
website and try to collect money from people so they can download OO.o?
no. we have no financial interest in this.
we are not
I'm not the starter of the petition so i cannot edit it and add that
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your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p
our team will win!!! =)
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mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/9 Bernd Eilers bernd.eil...@sun.com
Hi there!
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (7-9-2009 10:01)
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
To make it easier
--On Wednesday, September 09, 2009 03:00:01 PM +0200 Per Joh
perj...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/9 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
Cor Nouws wrote:
... So anything that
might look as being related (even in distance) cannot be else then bad
also, isn't it?!
Hmm. It's called learning.
Cor Nouws wrote:
... So anything that
might look as being related (even in distance) cannot be else then bad
also, isn't it?!
Hmm. It's called learning. Try it.
Lemme guess, you were surprised each and every time Lucy didn't let
Charlie Brown kick the football, right?
Regards
-Lars
2009/9/9 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
Cor Nouws wrote:
... So anything that
might look as being related (even in distance) cannot be else then bad
also, isn't it?!
Hmm. It's called learning. Try it.
FWIW
Now it’s time for me to “log-of” this list, ´cause it’s to much
Per Joh wrote:
Now it’s time for me to “log-of” this list
Be sure to unsubscribe.
Welcome back at a future date when you are ready to improve OOo or
understand what 'learning curve' means:
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/02/microsoft_offic.html
Regards,
-Lars
Per Joh wrote:
2009/9/9 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
Cor Nouws wrote:
... So anything that
might look as being related (even in distance) cannot be else then bad
also, isn't it?!
Hmm. It's called learning. Try it.
FWIW
Now it’s time for me to “log-of” this list, ´cause
Hi there!
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (7-9-2009 10:01)
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
To make it easier for you, to see a bit of the latest prototype (0.16),
a Dutch journalist was so friendly to publish this:
2009/9/9 Bernd Eilers bernd.eil...@sun.com
Hi there!
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (7-9-2009 10:01)
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
To make it easier for you, to see a bit of the latest prototype (0.16), a
Dutch journalist was so friendly to
On 2009/09/09 7:00 AM Per Joh wrote:
I thought this list was for helping users who needed help with OO.o, but
apparently I was wrong. It seems that this list is a tool for be rude to
other peoples…
Yes. It is supposed to be about helping users. Discussions like this one
should have been
Tommy, aka Dingo-Dog from Italy is the same person who lauched the
petition. He tries to raise attention for the advertised Open Office scam.
wrong supposition.
we are 2 different users.
dingo-dog started the petition, while i'm just promoting in forums and blogs
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Lars Nooden wrote (7-9-2009 10:01)
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
To make it easier for you, to see a bit of the latest prototype (0.16),
a Dutch journalist was so friendly to publish this:
M Henri Day wrote:
I should have nothing against an updating to the OOo GUI, but I can't help
thinking that it's what's under the hood that is most important. Still, we -
the developers - do have to keep in mind that new users to OOo are often
going to have a background in MS Office 2007 and
2009/9/8 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
On 09/08/2009 09:04 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
...
PS : Thanks for the remark about «delcaza types» - uninitiated as I am,
I'm
not sure I follow, but I choose to take it as a compliment !...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza
Gnome rocks! :-)
On 09/08/2009 09:04 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
...
PS : Thanks for the remark about «delcaza types» - uninitiated as I am, I'm
not sure I follow, but I choose to take it as a compliment !...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza
Gnome rocks! :-)
I suppose that Lars may have been
2009/9/8 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
M Henri Day wrote:
I should have nothing against an updating to the OOo GUI, but I can't
help
thinking that it's what's under the hood that is most important. Still,
we -
the developers - do have to keep in mind that new users to OOo are
There is no profit in copying failure. I, for one, moved to OOo after
testing all the alternatives I could get hold of for spreadsheets and
word processors. Even though I was used to MSO, it sucked donkey balls
so badly that a change was needed in order to stay productive with
reports and
This is going to be in Swedish...
Lars... är du den Lars som är namngiven som kontaktperson på den svenska
delen av den Office-svit som vi använder...
På den sidan så har e:et en fnutt över sig..
Det finns även e-post i denna lista från Lars och där är det även en
fnutt över e:et
Hur
Per wrote:
netiquette ??? vart tog det vägen ???
I have long been an advocate of netiquette. And I have grown up in a
region, as well as community, where kids could and did get their mouths
washed out with soap. My mouth remained soap-free FWIW.
The bullshit (1) won't stop as long as people
Hi Lars,
Lars Nooden wrote (8-9-2009 11:53)
Not so friendly. It's the ribbon all over again.
This really looks as if you have to wash your eyes. And/or try to learn
that you cannot have truth on your side always.
In your many (often useful) contributions, you show that you know for
sure
Lars Nooden skrev:
Per wrote:
netiquette ??? vart tog det vägen ???
I have long been an advocate of netiquette. And I have grown up in a
region, as well as community, where kids could and did get their mouths
washed out with soap. My mouth remained soap-free FWIW.
The bullshit
It would appear that on Sep 7, M Henri Day did say:
I should have nothing against an updating to the OOo GUI, but I can't help
thinking that it's what's under the hood that is most important. Still, we -
the developers - do have to keep in mind that new users to OOo are often
going to have a
M Henri Day wrote:
2009/9/6 Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de
Lars Nooden wrote:
Stop fucking around.
EOD for me. All your contributions to this discussion where full of
allegations, insinuations and now insults.
Not my style.
Ciao,
Mathias
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Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead
Mathias Bauer wrote:
... They deserve a better treament
than insinuations that they just would be out for aping the r*.
Unless that is what they are doing. :P
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
-Lars
James Knott wrote:
Some people feel the need to fix something that isn't broken. A similar
situation is developing with the Linux KDE desktop, where apparently
eye candy has become more important than function.
Exactly! And while we're at it, why did they wreck Amarok?
--
Pierre
Lars Nooden wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
... They deserve a better treament
than insinuations that they just would be out for aping the r*.
Unless that is what they are doing. :P
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
-Lars
But what if it sings like
Barbara Duprey wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
... They deserve a better treament
than insinuations that they just would be out for aping the r*.
Unless that is what they are doing. :P
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
-Lars
But
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