Jed says:
...
Capitalism, communism, Feudalism, mercantalism and every other economic system
ever invented can be defined as:
A system to allocate human labor, goods and services.
Some of these systems have been efficient; others were inefficient. Some were
just; others were unjust, and
The Papp engine is a pseudo-physical vehicle to test the mental sanity of
believers from an/my outside point-of--view.
The capacity to believe -in the US- is an order of magnitude higher than over
here -Central/Northern Europe.
We get our pile of dirt thrown at us because of this incapacity.
Dave, appreciate Your approach,
hope crowd-intelligence gets some traction and Chuck keeps on commenting.
I think Your hands-on first-order approach is the way to go, until a promising
effect shows.
From a metrological point-of-view the situation is quite nifty, because there
are several
Abd Ul,
Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
Maybe it's space aliens. I'm kinda liking that explanation. I can move it
around and explain anything with it. Are they *friendly* space aliens? I'd like
to think so.
Now You're getting funny.
Kinda
Eric, You make a good point.
As a selfdeclared (precision) measurement addict , let me comment:
1) Calorimetry, especially with small effects, is a central issue. I do not
know a lot about that, but manageble by careful analysis
The possible errors even Rossi et al made in high-power contexts
?
**
Re: [Vo]:Show me the beef
Guenter Wildgruber
Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:43:04 -0700
This sort of message I would expect from american smokers of shit.
Thank You for displaying that to the world at large.
Guenter
Von: Puppy Dog d...@inbox.lv
An: vortex-l
This sort of message I would expect from american smokers of shit.
Thank You for displaying that to the world at large.
Guenter
Von: Puppy Dog d...@inbox.lv
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 22:26 Samstag, 22.September 2012
Betreff:
underlying physical laws/concepts!
I could go on and on, but most vortexers would fall asleep. So I stop here.
Guenter
###
2012/9/19 Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
my five cents:
a) aim at reproducibility, whatever the COP or power-level.
b
Well,
Let me tell You:
As an 'inventor' myself, not of the trivial Apple sort, the non-obviousness is
in the eye of competent.
My 'invention' was about an interferometer which is insensitive to five of six
degrees of freedom.
Not an easy task.
BUT: it was completely within existing physical
my five cents:
a) aim at reproducibility, whatever the COP or power-level.
b) produce a working hypothesis
c) investigate 'ash' and side-effects: radiation, energy bursts, etc.
d) repeat (a), (b), (c) until convergence a robust 'theory-experiment'- loop is
established.
e) aim for 'commercial'
independent group, with ALL those
methods used.
This should be the basis of any hypothesizing/theoretisizing.
Right?
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 13:59 Mittwoch, 19.September 2012
Yep,
lawyers involved in what I call the 'scientific method' seems to be a bad idea.
See:
...
In the 19th century, the invention of perpetual motion machines became
an obsession for many scientists. Many machines were designed based on
electricity. John Gamgee developed the Zeromotor, a
Gesendet: 22:01 Dienstag, 11.September 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a
conspiracy
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
This is a completely different institute, and one probaly has to know the
intricacies of the Max-Planck organization
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 16:12 Dienstag, 11.September 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a
conspiracy
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes you did say.
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:23 Dienstag, 11.September 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a
conspiracy
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
not over here
Well folks, Rossi has a big Ego, to be sure,but he proves it on a lowly
'conference' like the Zurich one, where esoterics gather.
As I said a couple of times before, to the dismay of Jed, that Rossi is some
sort of a (tragic) Karl May character, who is a believer in his own fictions.
Now this
Hello Haiko,
I watched-intermittently, the videocast of the Zurich conference sunday 10:00
up to 17:xx (now).
I have very mixed feelings on that.
1st)
Adolf and Inge Schneider, TransAltec Inc., Zurich/CH, the organizers, are a
quite dubious couple
2nd)
Rossi's presentation did not show
...Therefore, proof occurs when somebody can buy one,...
after watching for 8hr+ wooly heads at the Zurich conference, who are ready to
spend significant amounts of money on anything nonsensical, I seriously
question the/Yourproposition, that money buys , or equals, 'reality'.
This ist not so!
20120816 22:15
Abd Ul,
appreciate Your elegant, determined response.
Re CE it is my -and others- impression, that with LENR we have an overabundace
of theories, to explain the somewhat scant evidences.
Now the problem is, that the solutions do not match the evidences available.
Both parties
Chem Eng, Axil
somehow my limits are reached.
Do'nt know who from the italian faction it was (Piantelli?) who found lots of
transmutations bydifferential analysis (pre-after of the SAME sample), then
there is LeClair/nanospire, then DGTG, who claim similar things.
This is like opening a can
Peter, ChemEng,
frightening it is.
In the sense that 'logic' is abandoned.
The 'singularity' is synonymous to annihilation of 'logic'.
So beware what you think for!
Have been fighting the 'singularity' in all sorts of contexts for years.
It is sort of a joker.
For the same (hopefully logic)
Yep,
kudos to Jones on that.
First time I noticed the potential of foams was just weeks ago, I found that
foams have a certain structural stability, relative ease of manufacturing, good
absorption of Hydrogen, a certain amount of irregularity -which seems to be
essential- etc.
Drawback seemed
Kelley,
I basically agree with Your assessment.
The outer tubes are tightly sealed and could have any pressure. The inner tube
just shows the energy released from the outer tube; And is ofcourse 1bar
pressure.
To retrieve the energy from the inner (1bar) tube seems trivial.
It is just for
me too,
LENR has some sort of theories backing it.
The Papp-engine does'nt as far as I know.
Now this does not invalidate it.
Even apes and other creatures somehow intrinisically seem know what is good for
them as a cure for diseases.
The shamans cultivated that in the human realm.
Papp and
Alan,
the problem with the Papp engine seems to me that it has NO theory backing it.
This by a long shot.
To use a mixture of noble gases -then something strange happens- is akin to
voodoo.
One other pattern of this sort of voodoo is to put the burden on to some
obscure 'controllers', who do
Interesting.
Very british.
Nature, red in tooth and claw (Tennyson)
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 23:13 Samstag, 4.August 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:Ed Storms comments on Martin Fleischmann
A message from Ed --
!
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:48:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ICCF-17: Brillouin is no more?
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
I am very aware of possible positive effects of this move.
My main argument
vibrations directly...
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
wrote:
guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that
into real world commercial operation?
THz pulses with significant energy?
From my reading I've concluded
Jones,
very impressive, but I understood next to nothing.
Now Mills produced a voluminous body of alternative theory, which wikipedia
rightly cites as
...One of the motivations for developing the novel theory was to find
physical laws that are EXACT ON ALL SCALES, thereby [overcoming] the
wow!
A woman.
Reality invading? This is a men's world!
..At Kresenn we are working to develop a unified theory for LENR based on the
study of nanomagnetism in ultrathin films, multilayers and nanostructures. ...
Theory-development is now not a matter of science any more, but of REAL MEN in
Susanna, supposing that You do not have have some Y chromosomes:
...
roughly half of
humans (females) do not have Y chromosomes
Consider this (James Brown):
This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
You see, man made the
Akira, a very sensible retreat.
I would welcome a female voice here.
So I tried to encourage Susanna to chime in.
This is NOT merely a men's world!
(Listen to James Brown)
Any discussion which is purely by men is suspicious by definition!
G.
Von: Akira
friends,
I will stop commenting in the list for a month or two or so.
Enough is enough.
Thank you for enduring my critical comments.
Personal mails excepted.
Guenter
Mark, sorry to annoy You.
ReWell,
...And for your information, THz-based technologies are being commercialized,
so the technology has operational products
I looked at that:
...This system uses the natural terahertz waves produced by individuals ...
Those are DETECTION systems, not
fran,
thank you for Your kind and moderate words.
Actually my thinking and arguing in the list here is centered about the
possibility that Rossi eventually might use THz.
About other aspects I do not know a lot.
Wrt Rossi my comment is a resolute NO, with very basic arguments, technological
and
Peter,
You are a most honest person, to be sure.
WRT the relocation I have this to say:
DGT, see here:
...Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd. is based in Cyprus; it
owns the contract signed with Rossi regarding the industrial secrets with right
of first refusal to sell globally,
in
probability-space is most welcome.
All the best
Guenter
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 22:00 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:ICCF-17: Brillouin is no more?
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru
will never be disappointed.
I just shift probabilities:
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 22:48 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:ICCF-17: Brillouin is no more?
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
Eric,
having an old friend who is/was editor of two respected scientific journals, I
have always had my quibbles with her.
That the peer-reviewing process is a thing of the past, and the profit journals
make out of that, are just obscene.
If You are an editor, and are paid some sum for it, it
vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:55 Donnerstag, 26.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
(The editors are, ofcourse, the reviewers not) It is basically the editor and
the advisory board, which determine who is the competent
Axil, interesting, but I did not read that.
Why?
Interesting question.
Because I do not believe that he 'rule of law' does apply on any important
issue nowadays.
Just argue away the clause 'peacetime', and here You are.
Habeas corpus? Should I laugh?
Wrt to legal issues we fell behind the
So whom do YOU accuse?
Please exactly posit point, which is nicely numbered, and its corresponding
syndrome here, as to the dkos-article.
I feel sort of 'accused', because I try to keep a critical mind.
As a starter:
I do not feel to be associated to any hive-mind of consenters or
guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that
into real world commercial operation?
THz pulses with significant energy?
on a partial cost basis of say $100 of his ecat-3.
Sorry to say: You must be completely deluded and have not idea what technology
is all
...smart, good people?
smart, maybe. Good, NO way.
Henry Paulson was Goldman top brass for a long time, being CEO of GS from 1998
to 2006.
Net worth: $700million.
A company where five managing directors call their clients muppets in the
past year.
according to whistleblower Smith.
...Muppet is
Yeah,
therefore it is important to have the legislative and the jurisdictive on the
payroll.
The fact that it is not corrected, tells You a lot about how rotten the
'system' is.
Bill Black calls this whole syndrome within the financials 'control fraud', but
it is bigger than that.
Think of
Don't know the movie, just read two comments by two people I value (sic!).
Barry Ritholtz and Matt Taibbi.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/05/review-hbos-too-big-to-fail/
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/andrew-ross-sorkin-gives-goldman-a-rubdown-20110607
Ritholtz is sort of
Axil,
Tungsten would be a whole new game in town.
Its main 'advantage' being that it would make Rossi's claims a bit more
plausible.
My personal experience is:
Stick to what is working, and do not make major changes.
My major objection, based on a bit of common sense, still holds:
LENR is NOT
With the announcement of ecat-3 by Rossi, I increasingly get the impression
that he is sort of a suicide bomber on a global societal level, destroying the
plants of hope, the LENR community has.
Focusing hope, making ridiculous claims, then: bang, it was just a joke.
Probability: 90%.
Is
as long we cannot have a clear distance to the likes of Stirling Allan, who
blabbers all sorts of nonsense on a daily basis, the field is in trouble.
I keep S.A. on my blogroll, just to diagnose, how deluded a person can get.
Obviously he earns a living through that.
Behind his deluded
...was just looking up when this rendering first came up.
I think it was around the beginning of 2012, with the old low-temperature-e-cat.
Please correct me, if I'm wrong,
Loking up e-cat at google images is actually funny.
...During the invasion of Iraq I saw a Pentagon schedule for a project to train
people in Middle Eastern languages
Well, as far as I can remember, in the early pre-attack phase there were about
7 people in the US who understood the Iraqi arab dialect.
But to UNDERSTAND, was not the agenda.
Yes, I agree,
Nowadys it is nicely packaged in a photoshopped depiction of whatever, an can
be preordered there:
http://www.e-cataustralia.com/order-and-buy/domestic-10kw/
'Pre-Order your unit here.'
No obligation, no prepayment
Fill in the form below, and we
will list you in our database
Bruno,
appreciate Your argument.
Commercial LENR would change the concept of 'value' big time.
But we live in a dialectical world. (sort of)
To abuse Hegel: Force-Counterforce-Resultant. (These-Antithese-Synthese)
Now consider:
The force (A) would be LENR
The counterforce (B) would be the
well, Jed,
this is just a sane, realistic view.
Being rich more often than not is synonymous having insane views.
The source of their riches are luck, societal infrastructure, connections,
inheritance, a moderately criminal mind, some genes, favorable rules (they
mostly lobbied for).
of DGTG 's technology
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
The simplest thing would be to show a working Hyperion during the two days.
not disclosing anything.
It would be easy to set up such a demonstration, because their claimed COP is
above any doubt, and this is not a milliwatt
Well, guys, I am astonished at this sudden outburst of comments on the issue.
First, I keep Peter in high regard as a honest person.
Second we are ssem to be looking forward to ICCF-17, and what DGTG has to say.
Weaseling out could be
a) DGT makes a poster-sesson
b) to hide behind commercial
thank You,
may I call You 'friends'?
There are tough times ahead, and I feel responsible.
Building our future on a possible chimera would be one of the worst things we
could do.
Boneheaded realists, phantasts, artists ... all have their role to play..
Whether we are a self-correcting lot -as
This is a
topic I repeatedly had my quibbles with Jed already.
I find the analogy -- May-Rossi -- appropriate
and interesting, he not.
Now this is not something to be decided in a duel, but the community at large
should and has to.
As a boy, aged 11-13, I read read about 50 of May's 60 or so
Part III:
now the conspiracy:
Thesis:
Rossi is actually an agent, to ultimately prove the ridiculousness of LENR.
Let us add some indications:
1.1) No coworkers of Rossi are known. Except his wife.
1.2) Rossi moves a lot, mainly from Italy to the US and back
1.3) his known facility is a big
Jojo,
pretending, mimikry and (self-) decepiton are part of the gene-pool, developed
for wahtever reason by evolution.
As conscious beings we have to fight this.
Sure, any trickster gets a lot of attention. Even Uri Geller got the attention
of Richard Feynman.
...
Because a good magician can
At times I thought so.
Actually it seems like child's play with MIT, Pirelli-high-school and such.
To assemble some experiment on high-school level seems to be standard procedure
nowadays, still largely ignored by the mainstream of scientists. To their own
detriment and ultimate blame.
Yes, Steven, You never know.
the net makes us paranoid, even to the extent that even I myself do not know
anymore if I myself am my worst enemy.
I prefer company which stays away from the net, just to have some contact to
'the real world'.
At times I think:
They are clever enough to operate an
.
Eric
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:19, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
Jojo,
pretending, mimikry and (self-) decepiton are part of the gene-pool, developed
for wahtever reason by evolution.
As conscious beings we have to fight this.
and all sorts of apocalyptics do NOT.
Start-stop. Linear time.
Guenter
Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 0:16 Sonntag, 15.Juli 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy. Part III
I don't know if Guenter
the facts
behind you.
-Mark
From:Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
Wether Mats Lewan has the mental acuity to decode what
20120714 00:04
Some thinking about Rossi's recent claims.
ref: recent Interview 2012-07-12
http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/
http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_2/
(Sterliing Allen and his crew are in my department of
Part ONE
The S Korea ICCF17-symposium approaching, plus some soon to be revealed
'breakthroughs' by Rossi/DGT, we should consider other optional realities, as
improbable as they may be.
Probability being in the eye of the beholder.
Now to repeat: I think LENR is real, but have some doubts
Rossi conspiracy, part TWO.
Here I concentrate on Rossi/DGT, which somehow seem to be joined at the hip.
The genealogy seems to be clear: Piantelli/Focardi - Rossi - DGT
Rossi improved on P/F, then DGT stole something and improved, then Rossi
improved.
Here we are: the 600degC solid-state
Part III and end:
now the conspiracy:
Rossi is actually an agent, to ultimately prove the ridiculousness of LENR.
Hint:
Rossi does not ask for money from unsuspecting customers.
He does not need that!
He is financed by some obscure sources, which I can only speculate about who
they are.
His
, but not decisive, as anything is for me.
If You do not understand this, not my problem.
Guenter.
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 22:46 Donnerstag, 12.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two
Guenter
jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 0:19 Freitag, 13.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
Wether Mats Lewan has the mental acuity to decode what is going on, is an open
isue to me.
I have no doubt he has
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 0:03 Dienstag, 10.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations
Guenter Wildgruber wrote:
Decent, humble scientifically oriented minds consider that, and are not
distracted by possible billions
Eric,
Agree.
There seem to be two types of people:
a) the ones to want to be compensated by money, and translate this to power
b) the ones being humble enough to recognize that they stand on the shoulders
of giants, as maybe Einstein did.
Can you imagine Einstein aspiring being a billionaire?
I
Jojo, by this you imply that the US-Navy is somehow the keeper of wisdom and
knowledge.
As a European I sometimes encounter this US-centric-idea, that some
US-institution has superior knowledge.
Those insaide institutions are mostly stupid buerocrats, which gives the state
a bad name, with
Harry,
I mostly agree,
The general topic is 'power structure research'.
Fascinating.
Domhoff et al in the US, Krysmansky in Germany.
The possible breakup of this structure fascinates a lot of people, including
myself.
Could we heal the environment, before the Utopians and Greedy use LENR as a
-to
human-- for me is a suspicion.
maybe unjustified, maybe not.
If it were so easy.
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 21:59 Dienstag, 10.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations
Guenter Wildgruber
Eric,
thanks for the reference,
That is exactly the point.
As far as I can remember there are similar reports from eg Piantelli and others.
What is missing is the conclusions in a wider context.
Which actually should be intuitively plausible:
If a LENR-reaction starts, it produces A LOT of
Nanostructures have demonstrated higher
temperature resistance.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Guenter Wildgruber
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations
Jojo,
Maybe, maybe not.
Count me in the doubter's camp.
As I tried
...@gmail.com
An: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
CC: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:27 Samstag, 7.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations
Dear Guenter,
Nothing easier- if you make a Google Search for Defkalion 650C or a search on
their Forum for 650C
to
be clear:
a) LENR is a real effect to me.
b) What I doubt are the claims of Rossi/DGT.
(a) should put the scientific community to shame and reconsider their methods.
(b) is a different animal: Pseudo-engineers, companies, speculators, phantasts
claiming that a midge is an elephant.
No need
A (psycho)analysis of Rossi/DGT or an exercise in the theory and practice of
(self-)deception.
There is some LENR effect, I am sure. This just as a disclaimer.
We all can bend spoons,right?,
But Uri Geller did it better.
Why?
He had a magic sauce.
Interestingly enough Feynman met Geller,
Alain,
... nothing is proven. ..
yes, ofcourse. this is the doubter's dilemma.
You cannot disprove the solipsist position, except applying -- and accepting --
a minimum of common sense.
It is the dose, which makes the poison, to cite Paracelsus.
wrt ...exceptional evidence ...
I do not use
Jojo,
rest assured that I deplore pathoskeptizism as much as You do.
But this does not make me change flags and join the other side.
This is just like in a war.
if You recognize that your party is wrong, You have two options:
a) change sides
b) be a pacifist
Pathoskeptics firmly belong to the
Alain,
You most probably make an error of judgement.
DGT up to now delivered 'facts' which I could assemble on a sunday afternoon
(like today).
Peter Gluck did a good job of briefing them, so at least they are coherent in
WHAT THEY SAY!
What they DO or HAVE is an another matter altogether.
will not have too much problems believing the
Rossi 600C stable operating temps.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Guenter Wildgruber
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:50
PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations
Rossi, the sparrow does a good job
read some article), even if you know it is wrong.
I see everyday very various pathological science, there are some in LENR who
look pathologic, but mainstream is crowded with such too. Without the support
of groupthink, LENR is quite easily cleaned from bad science.
2012/7/8 Guenter Wildgruber
Yep,
this seems like a benign description of what is going on.
I hypothesize that Rossi inhabits his own world, which is in conflict with ours.
As such it is backed by its own 'reality', which maybe coexists with ours. Or
not.
See eg Philip K Dick, who believed in a world where time is
Dear Peter, obviously I missed this one,
Could You provide a link?
The temperature issue obviously is a very central one, and, I must confess,
contradicts my theories of the inner working of the e-cat/Hyperion, which is
somewhat like a random heating up on several locations.
If this would be
this high temperature process.
Progress!
Peter
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com
wrote:
Dear Peter, obviously I missed this one,
Could You provide a link?
The temperature issue obviously is a very central one, and, I must confess,
contradicts my
Jones et al,
I think we have to keep in mind what the essence of a theory is:
It is based on a set of assumptions and expands from those with an established
set of tools, ie 'the set of accepted methods'.
Based on that 'belief' of mine, the Higgs Boson is something which only
'exists' within
Axil,
...I believe that many of the design ideas for this reactor core were given to
Rossi by the US government. ...
Now you are in a bit of fairytaling.
Q1: Why should the mythical US-government exactly, which is as incompetent as
corrupt, support Rossi?
and not NASA, Navy , MIT etc?
Spare
...but I project the design that they imply and also predict what those claims
mean in terms of
the natural laws that must be true for those claims to also be true.
...
Hmm,
does this mean that You consider any claims to be 'true' which do not
contradict the laws of nature (as they are
Stremmenos' speaking out is definitely important.
Us observers of the scene know about this unpleasant dispute
grosso modo.
Let me summarize:
1) Stremmenos definitely, firmly believes in LENR, not as a
weak phenomenon, but as a strong one.
Not only he BELIEVES, but he claims to KNOW from first
Axil,
just as a warning:
Unexplained 'transmutation' blocks the whole issue of commercialization.
I am constantly amazed at the naivite of the LENR crowd re this issue.
Please explain
Guenter
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provided LENR is real (which I think is 'true', whatever that means.)
Does anybody believe that the whole world suddenly switches to an effect, which
basically is unexplained?
It's risks unknown?
Please explain!
If you cannot: Please shut up!
Thank You!
Guenter
Peter, Jones,
never heard of Smarandache before.
Just randomly poking into his ideas today.
He seems to be a truly wild thinker, not afraid of expressing conspiracies and
other no-no's.
Have to dive into his concept of 'neutrosophy' and his and his handling of
the paradoxical, which seems
Axil, interesting
May I remind of this woomera guy:
March 25th he reported this on Chris Martenson's site:
...
I was told that they were trying to actually see what happens in their device
with some glass with a melting point of 1500degc. They saw it light up like
the sun and then it melted
Axil,
to cite woomera again:
...
Defkalion had decided the US is in the 'too-hard-basket' and won't manufacture
or sell to the US.
...
from his post #44.
Not to consider that authoritative. Far from that. But it signals a general
tendency.
Maybe the Navy is different and does business anyway
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re Peter's DGT-interview
as much as I value the interview, I have some second thoughts:
--Hyperion-testing ca March/2012
DGT stated that they will publish test-results if the testers agree to the
publication (and implicitly: DGT considers them fit to be published)
So what we know for sure is,
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