[Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello In figure 6 of the article http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29 it is stated that the waterflow is 6.47 l/ hour= about 2 ml/sec. This is about the waterflow of a espressomachine. When 4kW is added to such a

[Vo]:Current understanding of Boron/Hydrogen reaction found to be wrong...

2011-04-07 Thread Mark Iverson
http://research.duke.edu/sites/default/files/tri-alpha-paper.pdf Instead of one hi-Energy alpha and two low-Energy alphas, they found just the opposite, two hi-E and one Lo-E alpha... sarcasm ON Geez, seems like we're learning all kinds of things that mainstream science has wrong...

RE: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
For the sake of linguistic brevity I would like offer up the suggestion that Rossi's smaller e-Cat configuration... what has been called e-Kittens (a wonderfully descriptive linguistic representation, by the way!) be abbreviated to one of the following terms: e-kit (Short for e-kittins)

RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction / The used powder contains ten percent copper

2011-04-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Robin, ... Regarding the hydrino theory, my first impression would be to conclude (with absolutely no math to back this conclusion up with) that not enough hydrogen was consumed (into hydrinos) that would explain the massive amount of heat recorded. I hope someone can clarify whether my

[Vo]:Re: Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Horace Heffner
News of prospective new Fermilab discovery breaking in many sources. google(fermilab new particle) Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:EVWorld coverage of Rossi

2011-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=1977

[Vo]:Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Horace Heffner
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13000253 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Rossi's chimney

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
Looking at the new pictures... The chimney area has lead sheet in with = the thermal insulation. Why would he need Pb there? I would think that only the reactor area = would need to be shielded. What am I missing? Does he expect some radiation from the vertical = section that I though was just

Re: [Vo]:Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
It is interesting to note that at least one 5D theory (Dynamic theory) predicted a particle of 154 GeV/c2 several years (15??) ago. Dennis C -- From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:38 PM To: Vortex-L

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
epus? On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: For the sake of linguistic brevity I would like offer up the suggestion that Rossi's smaller e-Cat configuration... what has been called e-Kittens (a wonderfully descriptive linguistic

Re: [Vo]:Re: Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Presently sigma three. Looking for sigma five. Then we have a game changer! T On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: News of prospective new Fermilab discovery breaking in many sources. google(fermilab new particle) Best regards, Horace Heffner

[Vo]:Careful Cravens

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
It looks like the pods in Alien: http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/botanist-finds-mysterious-plant-in-nm Botanist finds mysterious plant in NM Updated: Saturday, 02 Apr 2011, 10:35 AM MDT Published : Saturday, 02 Apr 2011, 10:35 AM MDT ROSWELL, N.M. (KRQE) - Little green men are no strangers to

[Vo]:Careful Cravens

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
It looks like the pods in Alien: http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/botanist-finds-mysterious-plant-in-nm Botanist finds mysterious plant in NM Updated: Saturday, 02 Apr 2011, 10:35 AM MDT Published : Saturday, 02 Apr 2011, 10:35 AM MDT ROSWELL, N.M. (KRQE) - Little green men are no strangers to

Re: [Vo]:Re: Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Harry Veeder
A public announcement before the paper is peer reviewed. I am shocked! What has become of the scientific method? ;-) (sarcasm) Harry - Original Message From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 4:45:06 PM Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
William : My understanding is that the reactor volume in the original E-CAT was around 1 liter or 1000cc and that the new smaller module has a volume of about 1/20th of a liter or 50cc. Is this correct? Also, what is the standard power rating of this smaller module? Is it officially 2.5 kW?

[Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Jones Beene
Here is Rossi's next stunt :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W46UMzFEU24 As you know he is a miracle worker, except for one little detail ... He DECREASES the volume of a miracle reactor by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL. More

Re: [Vo]:Re: Stunning high energy discovery possibly happening

2011-04-07 Thread Harry Veeder
A public announcement before the paper is peer reviewed. I am shocked! What has become of the scientific method? ;-) (sarcasm) Harry http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive_2011/today11-04-07_CDFpeakresult.html Harry - Original Message From: Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread mixent
In reply to P.J van Noorden's message of Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:19:06 +0200: Hi, [snip] Hello In figure 6 of the article http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29 it is stated that the waterflow is 6.47 l/ hour= about 2

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:. Doesn't the temperature of the heated water depend on the flow rate? If there are devices in series, the problem I see is that the devices would operate at different temperatures. You could, however, adjust the

Re: [Vo]:Careful Cravens

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dennis den...@netmdc.com wrote: a few days late. that was April 1 http://www.highcountrygardens.com/content/alien/index.php I considered that; but, the article was dated April 2nd. Ah, well, it was a good joke. T

Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: William : My understanding is that the reactor volume in the original E-CAT was around 1 liter or 1000cc and that the new smaller module has a volume of about 1/20th of a liter or 50cc. Is this correct? Also, what is the

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
if you work in the boiling water region... it wouldn't be too hard to keep them all the same. and yes, it looks like his trigger at 60C (not the 300+) like Focardi. Dennis C -- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 07,

Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
So what is his endgame? T

[Vo]:Two new papers

2011-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Essen, H. and S. Kullander, *Experimental test of a mini-Rossi device at the Leonardocorp, Bologna 29 March 2011.*, in NyTeknik. 2011. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf A copy of the paper discussed here. Dmitriyeva, O., et al. *Mechanisms for heat generated during deuterium

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Yup. But I started writing that text before I learned that. Besides a 10 x 10 array is easy to envision, whereas . . . 17 x 17? I think that if you put two devices in series you already get superheated steam, so more than that is likely overkill. In short I

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread Mattia Rizzi
When 4kW is added to such a waterflow the temperature would rise instantaneously to 100 degr C. You are confusing between static and dynamic condition. It's physically impossible to have a instantaneously rise. You are missing intertial thermal mass and dynamic conditions. The curve in

Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: As you know he is a miracle worker, except for one little detail ... He DECREASES the volume of a miracle reactor by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL. That is incorrect. The larger reactor

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
It may be a wrong path to think that the system as including the water flow piping. He may just use larger water flow piping and then have several ecats (just the reactor part) in a common flow of water. Dennis From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:16 AM To:

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
For what it's worth here is sketch of the configuration I have in mind. There are multiple cooling pipes in parallel. When the nickel catalyst heats up, it heats the entire engine block. If some of the catalyst cylinders do not heat effectively the heat is still evenly distributed across the

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
hay, that looks just like my system for a matrix search on these things. except my top piece has a dome and only one hydrogen port. ... and the wells have ceramic paper thermal off sets ... and the water flow is at constant temp ... and a copper gasket. I use it to screen materials.

[Vo]:Huge blast in another galaxy

2011-04-07 Thread Horace Heffner
One reason for the extreme brightness could be that the jet of particles shooting out of the black hole is pointing straight at Earth. http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/04/star-eating-black-hole- may-be-pr.html?ref=ra http://tinyurl.com/3gpge4k Best regards, Horace Heffner

RE: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So what is his endgame? Well, if he really has made a great discovery, as we all hope - then the latest stunt with the small ghetto-quality versions is probably to protect the secret for as long as possible by misdirection. That would be by

Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Dennis
Just a personal view... having seen some of these things played out. it could be that he doesn't know how it works. It may be very much material dependent and he has but a little of the good stuff left and doesn't know why batch 3 and 4 (pick some numbers) work and the new ones

RE: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread Jones Beene
Good points - especially the CETI analogy. That could have been the original case of getting lucky, and then losing the magic... -Original Message- From: Dennis Just a personal view... having seen some of these things played out. it could be that he doesn't know how it

Re: [Vo]:Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction / The used powder contains ten percent copper

2011-04-07 Thread Jay Caplan
Doesn't the heater surround the copper tubing, and the red power cable attach to the heater? Can't see how the cable would pass through the copper tubing, as the heater is on the outside of the tubing. J Caplan - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction / The used powder contains ten percent copper

2011-04-07 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Thu, 7 Apr 2011 07:38:42 -0500: Hi, [snip] Maximally shrinking 0.11 gm of H2 would therefore yield 752 kWh of energy, about ~30 times what was actually measured. Furthermore the calculation of the amount of Hydrogen measured assumes

Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it?

2011-04-07 Thread francis
I guess I am falling for it because of my belief that this is a ZPE/ MAHG type of unlimited reaction where the control loop is everything. I think the hydroxides and energy produced in the BLP reaction were all from an unwanted runaway reaction that destroyed the geometry and allowed the hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:How small Rossi devices might be ganged together

2011-04-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:29:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] At 01:20 AM 4/7/2011, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I think that if you put two devices in series you already get superheated steam, so more than that is likely overkill. Doesn't the temperature of the heated

[Vo]:Re:[Vo]: Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction / The used powder contains ten percent copper

2011-04-07 Thread Jones Beene
Something very fishy-smelling here ... You DECREASE the volume by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL. More Rossi BS - let's face it, this guy is deceptive, and could be delusional. He is trying to hide something by this kind of