RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Hello Bob, I agree with you that Rossi does NOT use nano sized Ni particles. He has always said that he use micro sized Ni particles. But can you point explicitly a sentence from Rossi saying he use the carbonyl process or is it an assumption? I never haerd such claim by Rossi. It is clear

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I believe BLP has been using something akin to industrial arc welders for some of the demonstrations they videoed last June 25. However BLP seems to be using the units in an unusual power configuration. On page 57 of the PDF file we see: Ignition current: 10,000 A to

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Steven, I certainly agree with Mill's assessment that it isn't an oxidation process and the expansion and contraction of exotic gases/ plasmas may be the common thread here between Mills, Rossi, Papp and even sonoluminescence. You need reversible reactions which oxidation would impede. Axil

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Steven, [Snip] That would suggest to me that a triggered portion of Titanium powder mixture would not be capable of oxidizing since the enclosure would be totally immersed within an inert gas mixture. One presumes that high amounts of heat, light, UV, and soft X-Rays (but very little expansion

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson That would suggest to me that a triggered portion of Titanium powder mixture would not be capable of oxidizing since the enclosure would be totally immersed within an inert gas mixture. That is not exactly the purpose of the argon (which is

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
One detail worth adding... Titanium is unique in Mills' CQM insofar as he has identified the parameters of catalysis. It has 3 potential Rydberg holes, but notably at IP2, the ionization happens at 13.58 eV. As a metal which is insoluble in water, the multiple atoms and valence electrons of

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
One more detail worth adding... As mentioned, ferrotitanium - which is the standard commercial way that titanium is bought and sold -is nominally 30% iron and 70% titanium, and is actually cheaper than nickel, whereas pure titanium is rather dear... but can ferrotitanium be used in this device

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Higgins
Arnaud, I don't believe Rossi uses the carbonyl process, I am referring to high external surface area Ni micro-particles produced through precipitation of pure Ni particles from nickel tetracarbonyl liquid. This is a common form of pure, high active external surface Ni powder used in battery

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Foks0904 .
I can't comment too much on the technical side, but personally I think the work is quite interesting if not a little obscure. I think it's appreciated by certain people in the field for its novel creation of x-ray like emissions, and I think it does likely provide an important piece to the puzzle.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- You said, “I don't believe Rossi uses the carbonyl process,…” I assume you mean Rossi DOES use the carbonyl process to make his nickel particles. If you send a copy of your paper to Arnaud send me one also please frobertc...@hotmail.com Bob Cook Sent from Windows

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Higgins
What I meant is that Rossi doesn't make is own starting (un-catalyzed) Ni particles, he buys them. The Ni powder he buys is produced by the manufacturer from precipitation of liquid nickel tetracarbonyl. The powder produced by this process is just pure Ni having a high external surface area in a

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Higgins
I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut result because he believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray photons being synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice phonons. If it is possible for this up-conversion to occur, then it lends credibility to his

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, Rossi buys it from a specialist. Here is the web site of Rossi’s supplier , if anyone are interested. http://www.gerlimetalli.it/inglese/ihome.htm AFAIK – they will not sell you the “special Rossi blend” unless they have changed their policy, now that he has sold the rights…

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Review of Ed Storms book: \The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction\

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
The manufacture of these particles is a trade secret that is at the heart of the NiH reactor technology. This nickel particle is a compound particle which includes nanowires that host the SPP reaction. The NiH reactor technology has advanced power concentration over what can be produced by the

Re: [Vo]:Microwave Transmutation/Blue Eagle Refiners

2014-07-24 Thread Brad Lowe
FYI, here are some papers by George Egely who first got me interested in microwave LENR. http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Nano-dust-Fusion.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms411WCBEZk Is he creating magnetic carbon, or is it fusion?

[Vo]:Validation results of the hydrino

2014-07-24 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
It does look like Mills have put out a lot of data that verifies the hydrino. For me, the most interesting is the spectra fingerprint that is bulls eye with theoretical predictions. http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/presentations/TechnicalPresentation.pdf The question is if we

Re: [Vo]:Validation results of the hydrino

2014-07-24 Thread Foks0904 .
There is some evidence for it, not all of it altogether unambiguous but interestingly suggestive. I think theorists have long anticipated some solution to DM, mostly involving WIMPS, so I suppose there would atleast be some fertile ground for the idea of a dark ground state to grow. In that case

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Mike Carrell
Try Occam's Razor, the most straightforward explanation In an attempt to evade what Mills has written in his postings. Mills will use commercial equipment to avoid RD costs. Commercial arc welders are overkill but will reliably deliver high current pulses, which you can measure to determine what

RE: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
There is plenty of evidence down-conversion of gammas, but the problem is that it is never complete nor predictable conversion and it always happens in a few medium sized steps instead of large packets of energy going to tiny packet in one step. Proof to follow. And seldom does gamma conversion

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Foks0904 .
From: Bob Higgins I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut result because he believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray photons being synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice phonons. If it is possible for this up-conversion to occur,

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hagelstein has never been able to find a physical model for his contention, not even one which is remotely close - and it is amazing that he has not thrown in the towel on a losing battle. It simply does not happen in the

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Foks0904 .
What parameter is limiting the downshift exactly? Ahern has speculated that ferromagnetic collective modes, first explored by Ulam, are at play in LENR. These systems tend to amplify the vibratory modes of a system and then tend to localize energy in a coherent fashion -- seemingly in violation of

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Even a year ago I was persuaded that there must be some kind of high-energy gamma downconversion at play ... Just to clarify -- I do think the full energy of a nuclear transition, when there is one, is being dissipated to the environment, but not through some kind of harmonic

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Higgins
The problem is that after the high energy gamma is created, it is not plausible that 100% of the quanta are downshifted - some will fail in this post-fusion downshifting and be released as high energy. Since 0% high energy quanta are seen experimentally, the high energy quanta must not get

RE: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
Say, we are getting some kind a consensus going today… must be a good sign :-) I think that for deuterium to helium, the idea of pre-release of energy in a Mills-like redundancy has logical backing. Helium is documented, and deuterons are bosons. Tunneling should happen. It would be nice to

RE: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
BTW guys – for those who see the value in having cosmology as an ally, it makes sense for us to keep promoting this “dark matter” cross-connection to LENR, and the Rossi effect, and moreover to try to get anyone who is seeing thermal gain to look for the 3.5 keV signature. If that is found

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
The problem is that after the high energy gamma is created, it is not plausible that 100% of the quanta are downshifted - some will fail in this post-fusion downshifting and be released as high energy. Where dis this assumption come from? On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Bob Higgins

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Say, we are getting some kind a consensus going today… must be a good sign J It won't last. Marvin (the paranoid android from HHGttU).

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Higgins
I did not think I originated it, but I am convinced of it. This came up in particular for the proposed shielding effect by WL. It is a similar issue. Once the atom is excited with high energy to be released very quickly, it is difficult for pretty much any de-excitation mechanism to be 100%

RE: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
Downshifting of gammas- all the way to phonons, without going through the x-ray level (which is detectable) is especially absurd, when one realizes that there is not a single experiment in all of physics that demonstrates any significant level of downshifting at all. It is complete science

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
Look at this gamma downshifting situation in terms of waves. What happens when two waves meet while they travel through the same medium? What effect will the meeting of the waves have upon the appearance of the medium? Will the two waves bounce off each other upon meeting (much like two billiard

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
More... *An example, if we had a explosive that only reacted when water pressure was 10 psi, then water would always be required to trigger the reaction. The explosive would always need to be covered by feet of water and the energy of the reaction would always be added to the water that covered

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jones, please correct me if I've misinterpreted your premise, but it's my understanding that you are speculating that the BLP SunCell process is based primarily on a Ti - plus- O oxidation process that Mills doesn't want potential financial backers catch on to, at least not right away. Granted, it

[Vo]:Today: A 75% chance of hydrinos

2014-07-24 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Mike Carrell beat me to throwing the Occam's Razor card on the table. Perhaps both Mike and I are tuned to the same polarized Vort Collective sub frequency channel. In any case, here's my runner up post. I discuss the hydrinos saga from a slightly different angle, one that is probably less

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.amazingrust.com/Experiments/how_to/Thermite.html Speaking of the oxygen in water, are any of these thermite reactions a candidate for Mills chemistry? Titanium oxide? On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Jones, please

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
The arc voltage is increased significantly, and the temperature of the arc increases radically—up to 20,000°-30,000°C when combined with plasma, The blackbody spectrum of such an arc will be bluer that that of the sun. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Microwave Transmutation/Blue Eagle Refiners

2014-07-24 Thread Axil Axil
Egely is on target with pseudo particles. Polaritons are the key concept. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, here are some papers by George Egely who first got me interested in microwave LENR. http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Nano-dust-Fusion.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Microwave Transmutation/Blue Eagle Refiners

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms411WCBEZk Is he creating magnetic carbon, or is it fusion? http://www.materialstoday.com/carbon/news/magnetic-carbon/ The article talks about how proton irradiation can make carbon

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: What parameter is limiting the downshift exactly? Ahern has speculated that ferromagnetic collective modes, first explored by Ulam, are at play in LENR. These systems tend to amplify the vibratory modes of a system and then

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
In this experiment the possible source of the energy is the electric arc. ***Yup. It's possible that it's the arc that causes the jump to LENR. In Ed Storms's perspective, it is cracks which force a 1 dimensional string to form and somehow the laws of thermodynamics don't apply because it's no

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
In this experiment, BECs absorb X-rays. *Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate* http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3024348/posts *arxiv.org ^ http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf * | March 2012 | M. Viteau1, M. Bason1, J. Radogostowicz2;3, N.

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I posted this on another thread recently. http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20140724 In this experiment the possible source of the energy is the electric arc. ***Yup. It's possible that it's the arc that causes the jump to LENR. In Ed Storms's perspective

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- Why focus on the Coulomb field? Focus on the intense magnetic fields that can polarize nuclei parallel and antiparallel and cause them to spin in harmony. Transfer of mass via spin energy is possible, although it is not common in a plasma or free particle system most are familiar

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this on another thread recently. Yes -- I saw that. What you write is interesting. I am still acquainting myself with the relevance of Luttinger liquids, and I'm no fan of BECs in the context of LENR,

Re: [Vo]:Karabut and soft x-rays

2014-07-24 Thread Foks0904 .
Wasn't Graneau basically using acoustic principles to time his pulses and engineer their intensity to break atomic bonds -- thereby producing his exploding water? On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley