On 23 April 2015 at 15:20, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure how I missed this discussion, but adding information
from OSM into Wikidata en mass like this is a violation of the OSM
license.
Nobody is prosing to add information from OSM into Wikidata en mass.
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There is Wikidata The Game for this :) Semi automatic tool with a community
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2015-04-23 16:22 GMT+02:00 Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com:
James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
The post last autumn said you had 176,000 items matched to OSM, a very
large
proportion of which (at least
Thad Guidry thadgui...@gmail.com wrote:
I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase.
Some of which is based on List of Lights (NGA) USA.
I have DB conversion data for the PDFs...just never got around to loading
them all in.
Let me know if I can help.
I was able to match 407
The best way to link objects from Wikidata and Openstreetmap is by adding
wikidata tags to the OSM objects. That way those Q-numbers can follow along
when an OSM object gets converted from a node to a way (POI to building for
example) or from a way to a relation. (area to a multipolygon for
On 23 April 2015 at 15:09, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote:
Here is my latest mapping between Wikidata items and OpenStreetMap objects:
I'm still working on debugging the mismatches, before uploading the data to
OpenStreetMap:
Thank you - I'm looknig forward to seeing thsi happen.
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How so? Oh, because Wikidata is CC0 and the Open Street Map database is
ODbL, which is somewhat like CC BY-SA. I don't think that that follows,
though, as what is being put into Wikidata is contents, which appear to me
to be covered under the
James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
The post last autumn said you had 176,000 items matched to OSM, a very large
proportion of which (at least at that time) had no P31 instance of, but
you had been able to deduce this from Wikipedia.
Would it be possible to start loading Wikidata with that
I entirely agree and have been looking at a way we could start this in
OSM in a systematic way.
There are a ton of things OSM could benefit from with this.
But this is, IMHO an OSM issue (an OSM import) and not something the
Wikipedia folks here need to worry about so I think it belongs on an
I'm under the impression people on this mailing list are more interested in
this, than most of us mappers, so it belongs here as well. I agree with you
as far as the import goes, if you can call it that. We should have way to
easily add wikidata tags to OSM elements which already have wikipedia
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Nicola Vitucci
nicola.vitu...@gmail.com wrote:
Markus, this is really cool! Can I reuse it as an example on WikiSPARQL? :-)
What's the difference between http://milenio.dcc.uchile.cl/sparql and
WikiSPARQL?
Just a different codebase/engine? should they be
Tom,
Split tool to the rescue ? :)
Looks like the GeoNames ID is for the islet itself...so probably needs
another entity for the Vinga Lighthouse itself sitting on that islet.
Thad
+ThadGuidry https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Markus Bärlocher
markus.baerloc...@lau-net.de wrote:
Hi Thad,
I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase.
:-)
We have imported the LoL into OSM (40'000 lights),
and show them on OpenSeaMap:
On 4/23/15 1:02 PM, Nicola Vitucci wrote:
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
Hi Gerard,
what do you mean? Are you looking for something like this?
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels for a
given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 20 April 2015 at 22:18, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Hi all,
For many years, Denny and I have been giving talks about why we need to
improve the
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote:
Thad Guidry thadgui...@gmail.com wrote:
I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase.
Some of which is based on List of Lights (NGA) USA.
I have DB conversion data for the PDFs...just never got around to
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
Hi Gerard,
what do you mean? Are you looking for something like this?
Hoi,
Yes the link below is for Russian :)
On 23 April 2015 at 19:02, Nicola Vitucci nicola.vitu...@gmail.com wrote:
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
Il 23/04/2015 20:01, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto:
On 4/23/15 1:02 PM, Nicola Vitucci wrote:
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
Hi Gerard,
what do you
Il 23/04/2015 23:22, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto:
On 4/23/15 2:01 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
On 4/23/15 1:02 PM, Nicola Vitucci wrote:
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
On 4/23/15 2:01 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
On 4/23/15 1:02 PM, Nicola Vitucci wrote:
Il 23/04/2015 18:36, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi,
Do I understand correctly that you cannot have results showing labels
for a given languages?
Thanks,
GerardM
Hi Gerard,
what do you mean? Are you
Here is my latest mapping between Wikidata items and OpenStreetMap objects:
http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/2015-04-18/match_results/
I'm still working on debugging the mismatches, before uploading the data to
OpenStreetMap:
http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/2015-04-18/mismatches.html
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Thanks for your reaction, Stas.
I understand what your saying, but I think it's quite arbitrary to use
English transliteration.
In my opinion transliteration should be unbiased and impartial, like
those international (ISO) standards are.
Wikidata provides a possibility to enter national
OK, I did not think it might confuse users, the label needs to be changed.
It's of course not intended to use in statements which have no value, it's
just an attempt to express wikibase data model in Wikidata.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16354757 is not Wikibase Data model :)
I changed the
Firstly, Note name of the thread, It's about transliterating names of
humans, not transliterating in general, so translation doesn't make sense
at all in this case.
Secondly, I can transliterate names of Chinese people to Dutch or other
Latin languages too, it will work well and it will have
Hehe, we should picture this idea in help page :)
https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q1061035
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1061035 is not a pipe.
2015-04-23 9:50 GMT+02:00 Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org:
Hi!
OK, I did not think it might confuse users, the label needs to be
changed.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
Sorry for being dense.. What is wrong with there being no value ? Having a
no value is imho understanding only a complication of saying nothing...
Why not say nothing in the first place ?
It is important
Hi!
OK, I did not think it might confuse users, the label needs to be changed.
Yes, I think it should made clear that it should not be used for actual
values.
It's of course not intended to use in statements which have no value,
it's just an attempt to express wikibase data model in
Hoi,
Sorry for being dense.. What is wrong with there being no value ? Having a
no value is imho understanding only a complication of saying nothing...
Why not say nothing in the first place ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 22 April 2015 at 21:52, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Don't use Q19798647 The item is just a description of the concept ! on
Wikidata, there is a way to set an unknow value to a claim.
here is how to set this special value on a claim in the UI, in french : to
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_pas_de_valeur.png
You must click to the
Hoi,
For me it is obvious ... this search for perfection is an enemy of what is
good in Wikidata. It destroys the results of queries. It is not usable and
it is only of use in a very small percentage of cases.
Compare it with the female mayor question. Our issue is that we have not
enough data in
You should ask the people that are at this time developping it, and Lydia,
how they will handle this. Because they will, it's in the Wikibase
DataModel, the same as qualifiers.
We will probably be provided with options on how we want to handle ranks,
unknown values and so on when we will build a
In wikidata, the absence of a claim about something cannot mean the claim
has no couterpart in reality, as Wikidata is an will always be incomplete.
For example if we have a series, maybe finished, maybe unfinished, we wil
have claims that says:
Episode 2 follows Episode 1
Episode 3 follows
Hey :)
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is useful in the way you describe it, but I am curious how you
would model the source B saying that X had no child
Like this: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4115189oldid=212444514
Cheers
Hoi,
A question about the example... does that second source really care about
this and what do we do when we know this to be incorrect. It is bad enough
to want to know about the sum of all knowledge, I do not care for present
and past mistakes.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 23 April 2015 at 12:15,
You should read the helpages Gerard sometimes :)
This is on the Wikidata plan since the beginning, it is usable since the
beginning, and it will be queryable ... I really don't understand what
bothers you.
2015-04-23 12:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
For me it is
So the intention is to use Q19798647 as a random place holder specifically
for Wikibase entities without a value, but not as a no value placeholder
for a person? I think it is useful in the way you describe it, but I am
curious how you would model the source B saying that X had no child
On Thu,
Hoi,
That does not clarify it. So what would we say ... it is in dispute sure
but the way we work is that we have a child as a known person. So sources
may dispute to their hearts content.. It is a relation that goes both
ways.. How do we say novalue because it has to be a person ... John Doe
does
This is a question of point of vue and how to solves conflicted
declaration, way larger than this. There could be disputes other who is
really the father of something, this would be the same.
such a statement in Wikidata means:
* This source says that this person has no child
* This (other)
Am 23.04.2015 um 09:05 schrieb Erics wikiadres:
Wikidata provides a possibility to enter national standards Shchedrin
(English),
Sjtsjedrin (Dutch), Chtchedrin (French) and Schtschedrin (German) as aliases.
So
why not use the ISO-standard as the main form?
Because there is no main form.
On 23.04.2015 12:25, Thomas Douillard wrote:
This is a question of point of vue and how to solves conflicted
declaration, way larger than this. There could be disputes other who is
really the father of something, this would be the same.
such a statement in Wikidata means:
* This source says
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