[WSG] seeking JavaScript Bible reviewers

publications you write for, and include links to some of your published book reviews. Thanks, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] blockquote

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Re: [WSG] Minimal forms or marking up a search field

a) but it feels edgy. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

RE: [WSG] CSS off button

a corresponding button to turn styling back on after they switch it off. Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] FINAL VERSION OF MY SITE

menu to look broken on this page. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] e-mail link

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Re: [WSG] Assistance with flash example sites

is, alas, not keyboard-accessible but that does honor browser keystrokes is the jacket designer http://tmathletics.com/designer.php which we produced a few years ago. (The next-gen version we're producing this year will be accessible!) Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

At 1/29/2010 06:09 AM, Jason Grant wrote: I feel there has been LOADS of 'accessibility is a must' type discussion on this list, but at the same time I feel that there is loads of arguments which are essentially 'accessibility for the sake of accessibility'. My point is that we are heading

Re: [WSG] I need a professional eye.

At 1/29/2010 08:36 PM, PurencoolGmail wrote: The site is www.purencool.com All I want to know is there too much css? No. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com PS: Are you *sure* this is all you want to know? What does

Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

to the attention of a screen-reader or search engine -- except in those cases where the cosmetic design is brought to the foreground in an article on corporate communication or web design.) Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] CSS off button

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Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

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Re: [WSG] dl as paragraph?

at least one dt *OR* dd but doesn't require at least one of each: !ELEMENT DL - - (DT|DD)+ -- definition list -- http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

RE: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice

. ol.listName li h3 Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

it for HTML. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] Usability in Links

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Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

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RE: [WSG] Back to basics!

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Re: [WSG] working with line-height

20px psome text/p 17px psome more text/p 17px 3px /div Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

display both states and highlight the current one. Also, to ditto Jim Croft, it's terribly ironic that this menu pick becomes large enough for a person with limited vision to read only after it's been selected. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http

Re: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem

for free and you may have to hire some expertise. Good luck! You've got a long climb ahead of you, but achieving altitude to so worth it. Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Expand width of container to fit content's width?

be handled much more gracefully with different styling. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] website fonts

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Re: [WSG] website fonts

and all the rest of the page design. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] website fonts

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Re: [WSG] more on fonts

whatever its default sans serif font is which might easily be different on every computer. A sans serif font is a font with no serifs. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans_serif Does that help clarify any of this? Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft

Re: [WSG] Using background images on submit buttons

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Re: [WSG] Using background images on submit buttons

At 6/17/2009 06:45 PM, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: on an ASP.NET-driven site we'd like to use background images for flexible-width submit inputs. (I apologize for getting off-topic and discussing text inputs instead. Too little sleep!)

Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

. No worries -- a) it ain't religion and b) thinking people welcome heresy. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

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Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

I incompletely wrote: Because scrollTop is pixel-based, does it fail to give you the effect you're looking for when the user changes text size in mid-process? If so, If so, consider whether the auto-scrolling is critical to the functionality of the page and how confusing it might be if the

[WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

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Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

an illegal character on line 159 span/span. And did you save the source file as utf-8? http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftest3.dekkers.net%2Fpolicies%2Fviewer.htm Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] What to do with buttons when a user copies text from a page.

the page is to illustrate in a document that aspect of the page layout that includes the controls. There's such a thing as trying to be too helpful. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Image mapping standards question

CSS image maps with pop-ups, e.g.: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/imap by Stu Nicholls. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Borders in liquid layouts

of outer parent and the other border to the right side of the inner parent. div id=parent-outer div id=parent-inner div id=column-1 /div div id=column-2 /div /div /div Regards, Paul __ Paul

Re: [WSG] 3 column layout issue

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[WSG] seeking JavaScript Bible comments

I would love to get your critical comments on Danny Goodman's JavaScript Bible http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470069163.html I'm updating the book to its 7th edition and am making some significant changes, including upgrading it to include separation of layers progressive

Re[2]: [WSG] Why is u deprecated?

is blocked from your region, here are a couple of references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underline http://www.flyinglizard.co.nz/typography.php Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Lower portion of lower case y does not appear in h1 in IE7

for each nav menu LI so that each menu item maintains its grey blobby background even as it wraps. This would almost certainly require you to re-visualize the menu's graphic design to keep it looking good as text enlarges. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft

Re: [WSG] Who's A Front End Developer?

Beagle as a kid? Specialists are handy appliances, but give me a nexialist any day if you want a brilliant solution. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

; } /* superimpose the text button within the div */ div p, div input { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; margin: 0; } http://juniperwebcraft.com/test/transparent-button.html Warm regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

At 6/6/2007 01:13 AM, David Dorward wrote: On 5 Jun 2007, at 19:22, Paul Novitski wrote: The FIELDSET definition could easily have included: (INPUT|SELECT|TEXTAREA|BUTTON)+ or: (%formctrl)+ But it doesn't. And if it did then the fieldset couldn't contain elements that add

[WSG] reading the spec [WAS: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?]

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Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

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Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

At 6/3/2007 08:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/dancesrqb.html On 2007/06/04 01:41 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: In Firefox 2, when the window width becomes too narrow and/or the text size becomes too large to allow the headline The Dancer's

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

isn't crucial to the communication, as it might be for a photographer's or artist's website. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Paul Novitski wrote: You chose a background image for the header that nicely repeats horizontally as the page expands. To be more versatile I think it ought to repeat vertically as well to support high enlargement in modest window widths. At 6/2/2007 11:08 AM, Designer wrote: I think I'm

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

Paul Novitski wrote: Every 40th visitor, on average, will have a bad experience... 800x600: 2.5% = 100/2.5 = one in 40 visitors uses 800px-wide screen resolution (window width not mentioned). ... At 5/31/2007 11:32 PM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: These visitors probably wouldnt notice

list etiquette [WAS: Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size]

At 6/1/2007 07:38 AM, Chris Williams wrote: ...the teacher is paying attention to the stupid, mute, blind, and crippled kids. Well, Mr. Compassion for the User... stupid, mute, blind, crippled? Nice choice of words... Yes, I chose those offensive words deliberately to point up the attitude

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

to help them reach the audience with as much of their vision intact as possible. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

at handheld devices, at least. It's that enormous spectrum of larger monitors that are lumped together as one (media type screen) that give designers such headaches. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

is too narrow for a multi-column layout. There's much, much more, but that's a start. I strongly recommend you join the CSS-D listserve and read their wiki: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

to innovation and new design. This, I believe, is where you come in. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

a bit nonsensical to listeners. Musingly, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

RE: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

clear that this is a form and that each input field is an input field? On that assumption I wouldn't consider it necessary to repeat Enter your each time, but I'm open to being corrected on that point.) Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

statement based on the assumption that body text will be sized at 1em, or that the column widths will be fixed? Thanks, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

of the article. If any more explicit demarcation is felt necessary, I suggest using a subhead hnIntroduction/hn to indicate the nature of the block to follow. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

oneself into a corner with id seems to beg for the busywork of modifying markup stylesheet down the road. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines

RE: [WSG] Map of Australia Image Map

political boundaries rectilinearly. [1] HTML 4.01 Specification 13 Objects, Images, and Applets 13.6 Image maps http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html#h-13.6 Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

running at 96dpi, reducing the text to 62.5% and then increasing to 1.6 should bring it back to 100% of the default size, whatever that may be. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

On 2007/05/25 00:58 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: In my efforts to build zoomable layouts [max-width at window width] I've found it convenient to declare a body font-size of 62.5% At 5/25/2007 10:16 AM, Felix Miata wrote: The Clagnutt 62.5% scourge or bane of user stylesheets

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

to pronounce I just had to use it.) Regardth, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

in real time, e.g. with a mouse wheel? In either case I'm curious for an elaboration on this. (I assume you're talking about a hypothetical user here and not yourself...) Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Map of Australia Image Map

between wobbly borders and straight block sides would have been more obvious -- perhaps requiring some additional tiny blocks to mimic angles -- but at this scale the illusion works spendidly. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Map of Australia Image Map

At 5/24/2007 09:14 PM, Sander Aarts wrote: Paul Novitski schreef: Of course the problem was made easier by the fact that most of the borders between Australian states are on the horizontal or vertical, ... Just what I thought. I whished that I lived in a country with borders like

Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem

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Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem

workarounds: - Allow the tiling to begin at the top of the block, but begin the block 300px down the page. - Allow the tiling to begin at the top of the page, then overlay the top 300px with the alternate pattern. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd

Re: [WSG] css type loop

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Re: [WSG] css type loop

in this case the images ARE the menu items, but the principle can still apply to image markers for text list items if done properly. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] css type loop

At 5/17/2007 09:19 AM, Paul Novitski wrote: Yes, but what would make sense would be to combine all the numbers into a single image and then apply them to the list items with staggered positions, rather than applying a separate image to each list item. Here's a real-world example: http

Re: [WSG] Semantics and small

. Personally I don't think small fits the bill. [1] HTML 4.01 Specification 9 Text 9.2.1 Phrase elements: EM, STRONG, DFN, CODE, SAMP, KBD, VAR, CITE, ABBR, and ACRONYM http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1 Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft

Re: [WSG] markup for headline and tagline

. I'm mostly interested in people's recommendations of other byline and tagline markup I might not already be considering. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] markup for headline and tagline

At 5/6/2007 09:41 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Paul Novitski wrote: Ah. It appears that you're reading it as: Contains [a citation or a reference] to other sources. and I read it as: Contains [a citation] or [a reference to other sources]. I have to say that the two examples

[WSG] markup for headline and tagline

What markup do you favor for a headline-tagline pair? (The second element could be a tagline or a byline.) h1Thundering Pigs/h1 citea blog by Bob/cite h1Thundering Pigs/h1 p class=taglinea blog by Bob/p h1Thundering Pigs/h1 div class=taglinea

Re: [WSG] markup for headline and tagline

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Re: [WSG] Template Review

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[WSG] multiple-column definition list [WAS: Template Review]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Paul Novitski wrote: The method you're using to present the definition list in two columns is to split the markup into two lists. However, I believe it's really just one list, so you're changing the markup in a way that misrepresents the semantics of the page

Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

At 4/30/2007 02:02 PM, Open Vision wrote: Spelling and punctuation is faulty too: Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user experience for a web applications, in compliance with web standards Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use the u here) is

Re: [WSG] Template Review

this template I couldn't make myself actually read it. I would consider using a more engaging method of communicating with the reader. I like your color palette! Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] List with image and paragraph - help

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Re: [WSG] em-based layout test request

image in this demo does OK. Did you save it in any special way for this purpose? Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] nav menu help

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Re: [WSG] Client Side Development Process

2.0 | Workflow that Works by Kelly Goto and Emily Cotler http://web-redesign.com/ Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] How to mark up a flowchart?

=dPROCEED TO D/a a href=aLOOP BACK TO A/a/li li id=dD/li /ol Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Brand logos with links to home

complaints. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

At 3/9/2007 06:05 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 8 Mar 2007, at 19:09:52, Paul Novitski wrote: The HTML spec makes it explicitly clear that the relationship between term and description can be interpreted more broadly than merely terms and their definitions: Another application of DL

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

. That might sound like semantic heresy, but I think it's inevitable when even so sparse a language as HTML gives us choices. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

At 3/8/2007 09:40 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On the other hand, I personally believe that the use of a dl in this example would make no *semantic* sense. After all, given the term President, the definition of that term would be something like The individual in charge of the organisation. John

Re: [WSG] Alpha transparency problem

, targetting IE = 6 only. Doing so would not be difficult programmatically; you'd just need to prepare a fall-back contingency so the page looked decent when javascript weren't enabled. Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

At 3/6/2007 11:04 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: For me if it fits in a two column table then it's not tabular data. Yikes-a-roonie! That is the most refreshingly bizarre assertion I've heard all day. And self-contradictory: if it fits in a table then it is by definition tabular, number of

Re: [WSG] PopUp windows

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Re: [WSG] PopUp windows

the temporary content either in a sidebar or in an absolutely-positioned block that acts like a pop-up but is really just part of the current page, such as the larger image display in browsercam. Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

At 3/6/2007 05:51 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: President..John Smith Vice-president.Janet Jones In other words, the items in the two columns line up horizontally, and the cell on the left is filled out with dots. /quote I'm

Re: [WSG] New Project - Feedback Appreciated

or corporate identity as a foreground image -- it's not merely decoration, it's a concrete graphic entity that represents the website owner. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

in such a fragile way. Please generate the notice server-side -- or hard-code it into the html -- so it shows up for everyone viewing the content. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com

[WSG] Forward-slash suppresses word wrap in Windows IE

I've just blown some time trying to debug my CSS as rendered by IE6, finally discovering that the problem had nothing to do with CSS. In Windows IE, a forward-slash (virgule) that follows whitespace suppresses word wrap: http://juniperwebcraft.com/demo/slashwrap.html It's only these Windows

Re: [WSG] Forward-slash suppresses word wrap in Windows IE

At 08:49 AM 3/20/2006, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Paul Novitski wrote: Workarounds: Preceding the slash with a BR tag works, of course, but I haven't yet found anything else. Try this: P.demo2 {word-break:break-all} Thanks, Thierry, but no go: word-break is shorthand for word-break-CJK

Re: [WSG] Forward-slash suppresses word wrap in Windows IE

At 12:01 PM 3/20/2006, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Paul Novitski wrote: Workarounds: Preceding the slash with a BR tag works, of course, but I haven't yet found anything else. Another solution would be to use IMG elements in there. It's an ugly workaround, but unlike the BRs they would create

[WSG] linked list alternative to nested menus

I'm contemplating an alternative to the usual nested-list nav menu structure and solicit your opinions. First, here's a standard nested menu. Opinions vary as to whether it's kosher to include all the sub-menus nested inside the parent and conceal the inactive sub-menus from visual users.

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