Pretty much. The whole sync thing is the problem. On Apr 17, 2015 12:13 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some >> fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. >> On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would >>> be glorious. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> In progress.... :) >>>> >>>> I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going >>>> to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side >>>> effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving >>>> them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the >>>> curtain so to speak: >>>> >>>> At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of >>>> jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the >>>> syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers >>>> accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in >>>> the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, >>>> this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case >>>> closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the >>>> circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port >>>> injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each >>>> with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, >>>> which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each >>>> other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the >>>> connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down >>>> with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), >>>> effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in >>>> the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U >>>> shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the >>>> second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one >>>> ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of >>>> flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the >>>> enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which >>>> requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the >>>> distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material >>>> we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid >>>> enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to >>>> be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 >>>> port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this >>>> iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port >>>> injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome >>>> orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to >>>> that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future >>>> date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you >>>> shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both >>>> into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to >>>> work with gigabit on the syncinjector. >>>> >>>> -forrest >>>> On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE >>>>> injectors... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yup screwed there :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 & >>>>>>> 7/8 negative. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the >>>>>>> 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with >>>>>>> AF5x, >>>>>>> since they use power on all four pairs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but >>>>>>>>>> gigabit? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, >>>>>>>>>>> 5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 >>>>>>>>>>> pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... >>>>>>>>>>> you'd have >>>>>>>>>>> to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that >>>>>>>>>>> would do >>>>>>>>>>> for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use >>>>>>>>>>> a 568B >>>>>>>>>>> to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, >>>>>>>>>>> but I'm >>>>>>>>>>> not sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs >>>>>>>>>>> up or down. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? >>>>>>>>>>>> What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for >>>>>>>>>>>> all sites >>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >
