But the gig/sync works on ePMP and not af5x because of the power pinout I thought?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < [email protected]> wrote: > Pretty much. The whole sync thing is the problem. > On Apr 17, 2015 12:13 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh! >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some >>> fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. >>> On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would >>>> be glorious. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In progress.... :) >>>>> >>>>> I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was >>>>> going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a >>>>> side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to >>>>> solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look >>>>> behind >>>>> the curtain so to speak: >>>>> >>>>> At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of >>>>> jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the >>>>> syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers >>>>> accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in >>>>> the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, >>>>> this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case >>>>> closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the >>>>> circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port >>>>> injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each >>>>> with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, >>>>> which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each >>>>> other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the >>>>> connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside >>>>> down >>>>> with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), >>>>> effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in >>>>> the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U >>>>> shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the >>>>> second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one >>>>> ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of >>>>> flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the >>>>> enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which >>>>> requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the >>>>> distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material >>>>> we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and >>>>> rigid >>>>> enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed >>>>> to >>>>> be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 >>>>> port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this >>>>> iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port >>>>> injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome >>>>> orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them >>>>> to >>>>> that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some >>>>> future >>>>> date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you >>>>> shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both >>>>> into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to >>>>> work with gigabit on the syncinjector. >>>>> >>>>> -forrest >>>>> On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit >>>>>> PoE injectors... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yup screwed there :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 >>>>>>>> & 7/8 negative. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the >>>>>>>> 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with >>>>>>>> AF5x, >>>>>>>> since they use power on all four pairs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but >>>>>>>>>>> gigabit? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins >>>>>>>>>>>> 4, 5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... >>>>>>>>>>>> you'd have >>>>>>>>>>>> to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that >>>>>>>>>>>> would do >>>>>>>>>>>> for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use >>>>>>>>>>>> a 568B >>>>>>>>>>>> to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, >>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> not sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a >>>>>>>>>>>> thumbs up or down. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for >>>>>>>>>>>>> all sites >>>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
