So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh!
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing > and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. > On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be >> glorious. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < >> li...@packetflux.com> wrote: >> >>> In progress.... :) >>> >>> I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going >>> to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side >>> effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving >>> them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the >>> curtain so to speak: >>> >>> At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of >>> jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the >>> syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers >>> accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in >>> the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, >>> this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case >>> closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the >>> circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port >>> injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each >>> with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, >>> which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each >>> other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the >>> connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down >>> with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), >>> effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in >>> the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U >>> shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the >>> second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one >>> ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of >>> flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the >>> enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which >>> requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the >>> distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material >>> we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid >>> enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to >>> be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 >>> port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this >>> iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port >>> injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome >>> orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to >>> that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future >>> date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. >>> >>> On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you >>> shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both >>> into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to >>> work with gigabit on the syncinjector. >>> >>> -forrest >>> On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE >>>> injectors... >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup screwed there :( >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5 positive and 3/6 & >>>>>> 7/8 negative. >>>>>> >>>>>> Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the >>>>>> 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't >>>>>> know >>>>>> what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with >>>>>> AF5x, >>>>>> since they use power on all four pairs. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look >>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>> <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No pinout!? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the >>>>>>>> Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) >>>>>>>> <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or >>>>>>>>> pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but >>>>>>>>> gigabit? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. >>>>>>>>> Obviously the ePMP works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber >>>>>>>>> Broadcasting) <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, >>>>>>>>>> 5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 >>>>>>>>>> pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 & 8, it may be possible, but... >>>>>>>>>> you'd have >>>>>>>>>> to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that >>>>>>>>>> would do >>>>>>>>>> for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a >>>>>>>>>> 568B >>>>>>>>>> to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, >>>>>>>>>> but I'm >>>>>>>>>> not sure about crossed blues and browns. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs >>>>>>>>>> up or down. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? >>>>>>>>>>> What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all >>>>>>>>>>> sites >>>>>>>>>>> from now on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to run the AF5x? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>