I wouldn't care if a cover had to be taken off to adjust jumper positions.
On 4/17/2015 12:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some
fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring.
On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That
would be glorious.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In progress.... :)
I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it
was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working
through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not
100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was
brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to
speak:
At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a
set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE
injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I
struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I
realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the
bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port
injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to
the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put
the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the
holes and everything would work fine.
Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12
port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are
two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close
to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of
the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the
unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors
sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside
down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the
existing product)), effectively placing the two boards
themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This
isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped
pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then
the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With
two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which
requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the
board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board
ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit
of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance
the sides are from the U. We think that the current material
we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both
flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge
ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon
and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors
with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this
iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the
12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically
less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port
injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then
re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date,
possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out.
On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why
you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the
cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to
get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the
syncinjector.
-forrest
On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the
Gigabit PoE injectors...
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yup screwed there :(
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 & 4/5
positive and 3/6 & 7/8 negative.
Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative,
I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with
the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what
that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going
to work with AF5x, since they use power on all
four pairs.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I
can go up and look tomorrow.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting) <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
No pinout!?
On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a
bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It
also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George
Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What does the AF5x power supply say
on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or
is it the same as their other 24V/1A
supplies, but gigabit?
On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt
Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x.
Obviously the ePMP works.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM,
George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface
is still powered only on pins 4,
5, 7 & 8. Probably applies to
the ePMP Sync radio too.
So, with that in mind.. does the
UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4
pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7
& 8, it may be possible, but...
you'd have to flip the blues and
browns at one end. I don't know
what that would do for the GigE
data interface though. It might
not work. You can use a 568B to
568A (aka standard cross-over)
cable and GigE still works fine,
but I'm not sure about crossed
blues and browns.
Someone smarter than me would
probably have to give you a
thumbs up or down.
On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh
Luthman wrote:
Has anyone tried these
syncinjectors for Ubnt
Airmax radios? What about
anything else? I'd love to
use this one product for all
sites from now on.
Is it possible to run the AF5x?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
