How about so they can find everything these people were hiding, doing and plotting, and everyone they were talking to. Then maybe more service members won't have to be sent to fight? How is that ungood?

This is nothing more than Apple publicity and it's disgusting.

On 2/19/2016 5:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

As a proud US service member who handed the government a check with the numerical value "my life" on it before going in to combat, maybe it's time for me to find a new country.

This one has become so brainwashed by fear that it's willing to throw liberties away at the drop of a hat.

Have been eyeing some of the Scandinavia countries with a very judgemental eye as of late, and the tradeoffs so far seem very worthwhile. A much nicer environment to raise our children in.

On Feb 19, 2016 5:02 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Encryption used to be regulated like weapons.  Not sure if it
    still is, but back when I was stuff with cylink, there was a whole
    laundry list of countries we could not ship to.
    Codes and cyphers have always been the domain of the state way way
    back in recorded history.
    And Apple has been helping the FBI unlock phones according to some
    of the interwebs press stuff.  Just not this one.
    What is the problem in letting them have access to the encrypted
    data?  If they can guess at a single word like jihad etc, they
    might catch a key with rainbow tables etc.  To refuse to help the
    government discover evidence involved in a terrorist act, I
    consider that sedition at the least and really aiding and abetting
    the enemy - treason.
    They are refusing to unlock the phone.  Not backdooring the
    encryption of the data, simple unlock.
    If you have to finger a person illegally downloading a movie, how
    can you justify a fit of apoplexy in helping getting a lead on
    enemies of the state?
    I expect that if this continues, they can attempt to mill the
    cover off the die and probe the chip.
If the guvmnt can legally tap your phones, why not tap your data? (Of course one presumes you can trust them.) With a court order I think they ought to be able to dig into anything they can find. Got something to hide... then physically hide it better.
    *From:* Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 3:52 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
    Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing.
    On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com
    <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:

        My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that
        Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.�
        On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

        ... What?

        Seriously?

        On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            Treason?





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