Imagine being caught with an Enigma Machine during WWII? Especially if you were a known communist. Do you think that would have played? Oh, I am just encrypting my data... how dare you challenge me... No, you would have gone to jail and possibly have been hanged.
We never had these liberties until lately. Technology has given us new liberties, we are not throwing existing liberties away, just controlling the public’s access to potentially dangerous new technology. Stuff that didn’t exist before. There is always regulatory lag in stuff like this. Like 3D printing a fully automatic weapon. How about 3D printing a nuclear weapon or a biological weapon? New technology creates new liberties. I don’t believe human rights incorporate the right to automatically have free use of any new technology. Of course I can be trusted with all new technology, just not all you guys.... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:13 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Right, this isn't like they're asking for a backdoor so they can access any iPhone remotely at any time... they have to physically have the device for it to be of any use, which is something they've been doing for a long, long time... and they probably will figure out how to do again without Apples help, it would just be a lot easier and cheaper (and waste less tax money) if Apple helped. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: But it has been done thousands of times. FBI and NSA have been cracking for years. Just much more difficult these days. Seriously, what is the problem with our nation state being able to crack encrypted data? (Again presuming they have our best interests at heart and can be trusted, this is a theoretical discussion). What would I ever encrypt that I would have a problem with the NSA seeing? I cannot imagine needing strong encryption other than to keep folks out of my network and bank account. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Problem is that once you do it. It's done and they can do it again, and again. If you think it will only ever get used on this ONE phone then you are delusional. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:05:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for. FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No "software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, then incinerate the device. On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, and you get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the Engineers at apple have a way to do this thought up.� Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone, couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by bit copy of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try every unlock code? On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Yup. Google agrees as well. On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.� On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: ... What? Seriously? On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Treason? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 <tel:575-758-7598> Office www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
