I can't, even hypothetically, have a conversation about ANY government acting reasonably. Have you paid any attention over the past 16 years, especially since 9/11? It's a sociopathic fantasy. Orwell's worst nightmare. On Feb 19, 2016 5:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> But it has been done thousands of times. FBI and NSA have been cracking > for years. Just much more difficult these days. > > Seriously, what is the problem with our nation state being able to crack > encrypted data? (Again presuming they have our best interests at heart and > can be trusted, this is a theoretical discussion). What would I ever > encrypt that I would have a problem with the NSA seeing? I cannot imagine > needing strong encryption other than to keep folks out of my network and > bank account. > > -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Tyler > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple > > Problem is that once you do it. It's done and they can do it again, and > again. If you think it will only ever get used on this ONE phone then you > are delusional. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > Total Highspeed Internet Services > 417.851.1107 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:05:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple > > As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for. FBI > wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No > "software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, > then incinerate the device. > > On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > >> But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're >> just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, >> and you get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the >> Engineers at apple have a way to do this thought up.� >> >> Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone, >> couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by >> bit copy of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try >> every unlock code? >> >> On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >>> >>> Yup. Google agrees as well. >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing. >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that >>> Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.� >>> >>> On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ... What? >>>> >>>> Seriously? >>>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Treason? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- -- *Sam Lambie* >>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>> 575-758-7598 <tel:575-758-7598> Office >>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>> >>> >> >
