Or the other extreme they never hire anyone to replace people who were very 
important to the operation … had that happen when I left my previous employer 
and they (in my opinion) are still coping with it daily …. 


> On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:54 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Just now reading this thread but I think powercode went from like 9 employees 
> (two public facing) to like....27 or something after Simon and Jacob left.
>  
> That is so common "in the industry" and I don't mean just billing software - 
> - how often is one departing employee replaced by 3 or 4 people?
>  
> Now lets think about what that says...
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Jeremy <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash
>> 
>> Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform.  
>> However, I agree with Josh.  Powercode has definitely improved since he 
>> left.  Issues are quicker to get resolved, and tickets are responded to more 
>> promptly.  I doubt any of this was the fault of Simon being the lead 
>> developer, but rather a restructuring of responsibilities that took place 
>> after he left.  I have no doubt that Sonar will end up being one of the best 
>> solutions out there.  
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> phpipam isnt developed anymore
>>> I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and 
>>> has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered 
>>> up enough to get a full grasp on, but its got all the documentory and 
>>> reporting features I want, would love it if Bertram bought it out and 
>>> integrated it, id be so exited Id get the vapors.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Check out phpipam
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2016 10:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the 
>>>>> skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have 
>>>>> gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead comes in 
>>>>> the last one disappears off the face of the earth. I imagine being in the 
>>>>> office up there looks like something out of mad max.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But overall, its a satisfying product, the inventory component is 
>>>>> absolutely useless, but the rest is pretty reliable. Customers like the 
>>>>> feel of the portal interface, I would prefer we had the ability to 
>>>>> manipulate it more, but I also want my own pony named Miguel. 
>>>>> Support responsiveness is normally pretty good, occasionally it gets meh, 
>>>>> but I think you have that with any company depending on the work load.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I do like about it, is that I dont have to know much to manage it, 
>>>>> The server build is down to a cut and past CLI job if it needs rebuilt. 
>>>>> It performs well in a decent VM host. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It really appears they are moving away from user driven development 
>>>>> (there used to be constant interaction) toward more of a programmed 
>>>>> development cycle, which is good and bad, but mostly a positive move.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would be nice if they had clean IPAM, i still have a set of excel 
>>>>> spreadsheets for master subnet documentation, but I dont think there is 
>>>>> such a beast in IPAM that would satisfy everyone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The ticketing system became super useful once they added external email 
>>>>> accounts, it allowed us to decommission a secondary ticketing system. Its 
>>>>> only good for our ISP side, not our contract services side however 
>>>>> because it doesnt offer clean time tracking or multiple tech separation
>>>>> 
>>>>> My boss is very frugal when it comes to anything that generates a 
>>>>> recurring cost, and he sees Powercode as a beneficial recurring cost, so 
>>>>> that does say something about the product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I cuss them every couple months over something or other, its usually 
>>>>> 50/50 whether its something I screwed up, or a bug in their system, but 
>>>>> it always gets resolved. We have an ongoing issue with email fetching 
>>>>> that happens, but they gave me a cli tool to resolve it, and its caused 
>>>>> by something external and outside their control, so I cant hold it 
>>>>> against them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is currently no way to easily reset the tracking metrics on tickets 
>>>>> and times, but thats no deal breaker, they will eventually clean it up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If youre looking for actual inventory management with any type of 
>>>>> valuation, its definetly not the product. Azotel had that when we were 
>>>>> looking into them, and I think you could tie in crystal reports to get 
>>>>> some really amazing data, but it seems like Azotel went to sleep
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Vlad Sedov <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> We've been running Freeside for the last 10 years. It takes a bit of 
>>>>>> perl and linux knowledge to get it running (or just download the VM), 
>>>>>> but hey, what do you want for nothing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Feature-wise, freeside is on par with the big boys these days.. Can't 
>>>>>> think of anything it doesn't have that an ISP billing system should have.
>>>>>> The new version even has tower coverage mapping... very WISP-friendly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> peace
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing 
>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been looking at;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to bill my 
>>>>>>> customers)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Visp seems like a decent option?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wisp Mon? Don't know much about them, prices seem high, haven't heard 
>>>>>>> anything bad so that's a good sign?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Swift fox? ( Seems like unpopular option maybe because they're new?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sonar? Maybe that's the one?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
>>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> 
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