I've been around longer than most here, and I, too, have seen a decline in
netiquette here since I first joined the list 10 years ago.  Part of it is
the maturing (or the reverse) of the use of the internet.  Part of it is
that more and more of the listers cut their computing teeth on less formal
IT and business "practices".  In a world where Yahoo! Answers can allow one
to get great help while remaining anonymous, why should we be different?
Because we're not the entire world - we're a close-knit family of people
using a common software development and application platform.  Our
conferences are almost as much family reunions as geek-fests.  So, to any
new listers out there, that's why we sometimes come across as
over-protective of some standards here.  We have a pretty good thing going
here, and we want to see it continue.

That being said, we have work to do of our own, and while we love to help
others, we would really appreciate it if you would respect the time we take
to give you FREE advice by doing the following:

1)  Give us your name.  If, for some reason, you want or need it to be a
fictitious one, that's fine, just so that we have some carbon-based handle
by which to refer to you - NOT a screen name.  If you also want to tell us
where you work, that may spur someone in a similar line of work or
geographic area to help you when they otherwise might not.  Giving some
contact information can result in some more directed information being
delivered to you off-list than could be posted on it.  I know of no one who
has ever been harrassed or spammed as a result of this.  We're a family, and
we won't tolerate that.
2)  Do what research you can before posting.  If you're a newbie, we know
how overwhelming this can be - sometimes you don't even know where to start
looking.  Do what you can, as much or as little as that might be.  Show us
you've worked on it, and we're more willing to work with you.
3)  Tell us as much as you can about your Remedy environment.  Detailed
Hardware specs are not necessary, but telling us the OS/DBMS, ARS and/or
ITSM versions you're using is *essential *to receiving appropriate help.
Get used to providing it to us just as you should to Support.
4)  Thank those who actually provide assistance.
5)  Help someone else when you get the chance.  Call it Karma, the Golden
Rule, or just being nice.  Either way, that's how the list grows, and
maintains its place as one of the finest sources of free help available on
the net.

Rick Cook
Remedy Skilled Professional
Cook Enterprises
253-278-4112

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Frank Ginny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> ** Message from New ARList Poster Goofus-
>
> Help!!!!!! I'm stuck on SOMETHING wrong within my AR system.
> I haven't done anything MYSELF to find out what the problem is, nor have I
> read ANY freakin manuals... oh ya, by the way I haven't searched the ARSList
> either to see if a existing issue exists.
> What I really want is someone else to do all the work for me.
> My current AR system setup - Yes, it's setup, in that box in the corner.
> Why should I tell you what my system has, you might get AR envy.
>
> Thanks a bunch for doing my work for me.
>
> sincerely,
>
> AR_Escalator (aka Filter guy, aka REmeDy Zodiac, aka COPY AND PASTE ANY BMC
> NAMING CONVENTION HERE)
>
> Hey man, I don't need to tell you my name; the internet is anonymous for
> all you know I could be Mark Twain.
>
>
> (23 posts later Remedy Zodiac gets the info he/she needs.)
>
>
>
> Message from New ARList Poster Gallant-
>
> Hello ARSList,
>
> I have an issue with filter guides. Filter 3 is not firing with in the
> guide. I have ran some log files to see what the issue is and I can not see
> an error. I have included the log files in this email. I have checked BMC's
> support site and ARSList to no avail.
> My setup -
> Remedy Server
> ITSM
> Etc
> If there is any other information please let me know.
>
> Thank you for your assistance,
>
> Joe Gallant
>
>
> (3 posts later Joe gets the info he needs.)
>
>
>
> The moral of the story -
>
> This is a public list, yes I know that. But there are some common ground
> rules -
>
> If you need help, please be as descriptive as possible. (The issue, your
> setup, what you tried, etc)
>
> Please use a Human name, even if it's a cover name. Mark Twain is way
> better than REmeDy Zodiac. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
>
> When you ask a silly question, you get a really silly answer. Don't be
> upset at the SARCASIM you get when you post a silly question.
>
> Please don't be afraid to post a question. The ARSList community is here to
> help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> REmeDy Zodiac, or maybe Mid-Tier Psychic, oooohh no wait Field 112
> <---(perfect name, I'm Multi-Tenancy)
>
> er, I mean
>
> Frank Ginny
> Sr. Remedy Developer / Administrator
>
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