The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 99 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy <E30> Coolant light Re: <E30> Coolant light Re: <E30> Coolant light Official 1-series pictures Detailing a dark car Radio Codes? TechFest East Reston VA May 13-16, 2004 E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 1:27:12 -0500 From: Dave Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bear with me... So I get in my car this morning to take my kid to school, but when I press the clutch, it falls straight to the floor. Hmmm - it wasn't like this last Friday. Pull the clutch up, try again - nope straight to the floor. Get kid out of car and out of garage, jack up car real quick - yep, it's the famous clutch slave cylinder failure with a small puddle of brake fluid on the floor. So, I get the replacement part, get it installed, and start to bleed, but I just can't seem to get the pedal to come back. Then I read Bentley - remove the slave from the transmission, hold bleed valve upward, then press piston in slowly to remove bubbles from cylinder. OK, check. But when I go to re-mount the slave cylinder - I can't get the piston to compress, so I can't mount it!!! Ugh! OK, let's start over - siphon fluid, remove hydraulic line from slave cylinder, remove slave cylinder from transmission...uh, hey wait a minute. Where's the FREAKIN PISTON??? It appears as though the piston came off the slave cylinder and <emphasis> FELL INTO THE BELL HOUSING OF THE TRANSMISSION </emphasis> [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so after I beat my head on my nice concrete garage floor for a few minutes, I figured out that I'm really an idiot with not-so-decent tools who has no business working on a piece of refined German machinery. That being admitted, anyone got any advice, other than to suffer the giggles and laughter of my local mechanic? Any advice greatly appreciated - I'm posting this to the usual lists, I apologize if you frequent the same ones I do and had to read this multiple times. Dave Bell 95 M3 <-- current subject of random cuss words ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:17:35 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1. Throw the Bentley away. 2. Go to your local auto parts store and get a flexible magnet. One that's on a shaft made of a soft metal that can be bent at will, not one with a flex head on it. With luck, you'll be able to extract the piston from the bell housing. Now, assuming you didn't blow out the slave, just lost the piston, reinsert the piston in the boot and install the slave cylinder on the trans. Hook up the fluid line and bleed it by pumping the pedal. When no more air is coming out, close the bleeder. Pump the pedal up, you're done. There is NO NEED to turn the slave upside down. That's an OLD WIVES TALE. Your pedal will NOT return when bleeding the slave. It needs fluid pressure in the line in order for the pressure plate spring pressure to return the pedal to the top of it's travel. Because you're relieving the pressure at the slave bleeder, it's impossible for the system to push the pedal back up. You have to pump the pedal by hand, up and down, until there's no air. Then you still have to pump it 3 or 4 times AFTER you close the bleeder, in order to build up the required pressure in the line. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > So, I get the replacement part, get it installed, and start to > bleed, but I > just can't seem to get the pedal to come back. Then I read Bentley - > remove the slave from the transmission, hold bleed valve upward, then > press piston in slowly to remove bubbles from cylinder. OK, check. But > when I go to re-mount the slave cylinder - I can't get the piston to > compress, so I can't mount it!!! Ugh! > > OK, let's start over - siphon fluid, remove hydraulic line from slave > cylinder, remove slave cylinder from transmission...uh, hey wait a > minute. Where's the FREAKIN PISTON??? It appears as though the piston > came off the slave cylinder and <emphasis> FELL INTO THE BELL > HOUSING OF THE TRANSMISSION </emphasis> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dave Bell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 06:58:20 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't feel so bad, I did he same thing last winter. The bad news is that the transmission does have to come off. Don't dispair however, it is do-able by a home mechanic. I did it myself and WIWIT I replaced all of the seals on the tranny, installed a LWT flywheel and a new clutch. I would recomend that you get your hands on a Bentley manual... Or call your local mechanic and be laughed at. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 300i 1995 M3 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 3/23/2004 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [UUC] <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Bear with me... So I get in my car this morning to take my kid to school, but when I press the clutch, it falls straight to the floor. Hmmm - it wasn't like this last Friday. Pull the clutch up, try again - nope straight to the floor. Get kid out of car and out of garage, jack up car real quick - yep, it's the famous clutch slave cylinder failure with a small puddle of brake fluid on the floor. So, I get the replacement part, get it installed, and start to bleed, but I just can't seem to get the pedal to come back. Then I read Bentley - remove the slave from the transmission, hold bleed valve upward, then press piston in slowly to remove bubbles from cylinder. OK, check. But when I go to re-mount the slave cylinder - I can't get the piston to compress, so I can't mount it!!! Ugh! OK, let's start over - siphon fluid, remove hydraulic line from slave cylinder, remove slave cylinder from transmission...uh, hey wait a minute. Where's the FREAKIN PISTON??? It appears as though the piston came off the slave cylinder and <emphasis> FELL INTO THE BELL HOUSING OF THE TRANSMISSION </emphasis> [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so after I beat my head on my nice concrete garage floor for a few minutes, I figured out that I'm really an idiot with not-so-decent tools who has no business working on a piece of refined German machinery. That being admitted, anyone got any advice, other than to suffer the giggles and laughter of my local mechanic? Any advice greatly appreciated - I'm posting this to the usual lists, I apologize if you frequent the same ones I do and had to read this multiple times. Dave Bell 95 M3 <-- current subject of random cuss words Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com [Attachment of type application/ms-tnef removed.] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:23:25 -0500 From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You replaced your clutch on jack stands? I did mine on a lift recently and I wouldn't want to attempt that feat... Brian '94 325ic Jamie Howton wrote: >Don't feel so bad, I did he same thing last winter. The bad news is that the >transmission does have to come off. Don't dispair however, it is do-able by a home >mechanic. I did it myself and WIWIT I replaced all of the seals on the tranny, >installed a LWT flywheel and a new clutch. I would recomend that you get your hands >on a Bentley manual... Or call your local mechanic and be laughed at. > >Regards > >Jamie Howton >2002 300i >1995 M3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 3/23/2004 12:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > Subject: [UUC] <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy > > > > Bear with me... > So I get in my car this morning to take my kid to school, but when I > press the clutch, it falls straight to the floor. Hmmm - it wasn't like this > last Friday. Pull the clutch up, try again - nope straight to the floor. Get > kid out of car and out of garage, jack up car real quick - yep, it's the > famous clutch slave cylinder failure with a small puddle of brake fluid on > the floor. > > So, I get the replacement part, get it installed, and start to bleed, but I > just can't seem to get the pedal to come back. Then I read Bentley - > remove the slave from the transmission, hold bleed valve upward, then > press piston in slowly to remove bubbles from cylinder. OK, check. But > when I go to re-mount the slave cylinder - I can't get the piston to > compress, so I can't mount it!!! Ugh! > > OK, let's start over - siphon fluid, remove hydraulic line from slave > cylinder, remove slave cylinder from transmission...uh, hey wait a > minute. Where's the FREAKIN PISTON??? It appears as though the piston > came off the slave cylinder and <emphasis> FELL INTO THE BELL > HOUSING OF THE TRANSMISSION </emphasis> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > OK, so after I beat my head on my nice concrete garage floor for a few > minutes, I figured out that I'm really an idiot with not-so-decent tools > who has no business working on a piece of refined German machinery. > That being admitted, anyone got any advice, other than to suffer the > giggles and laughter of my local mechanic? > > Any advice greatly appreciated - I'm posting this to the usual lists, I > apologize if you frequent the same ones I do and had to read this > multiple times. > > Dave Bell > 95 M3 <-- current subject of random cuss words > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:53:18 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: John Sabatini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <E30> Coolant light Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Coolant light on my '90 325is has started coming on periodically when there is plenty of coolant in the tank. At first it would come on when I first started the car and I thought it was a stuck float on the sensor. I would take the sensor out and rinse it off and all was well. Now it is happening after I have drove the car for about 30 or 45 minutes. Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:13:03 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list) Subject: Re: <E30> Coolant light Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From John Sabatini > >The Coolant light on my '90 325is has started coming on periodically when there is >plenty of coolant in the tank. At first it would come on when I first started the car >and I thought it was a stuck float on the sensor. I would take the sensor out and >rinse it off and all was well. Now it is happening after I have drove the car for >about 30 or 45 minutes. Any ideas? > My 87 325i did this. Then the mechanic leaned on the sensor and broke the pins. I replaced the sensor and the problem went away. -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:25:42 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> Coolant light Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IIRC, my friend Mike had similar trouble with his late production E30 325iC. I'm sure he'd appreciate it, and would love to compare notes if you cc: him with any additional info, as he does not read the list regularly. Thanks. -Jay **************** > The Coolant light on my '90 325is has started coming on periodically when there is plenty of coolant in the tank. At first it would come on when I first started the car and I thought it was a stuck float on the sensor. I would take the sensor out and rinse it off and all was well. Now it is happening after I have drove the car for about 30 or 45 minutes. Any ideas? > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks like BMW's released official 1-series pictures and promo material: http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/products/highlights/1series/1series/campaign/index.html What a gorgeous car, with lines reminiscent of a stretched Z Coupe, but it's too bad the 5-door they're showing won't be making it to the US. If you go to the Character->Equipment submenu, there's a 3D model you can rotate with your mouse. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:34:24 -0800 From: "Ziv Gillat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Detailing a dark car Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I have a college that's asking where can he get his black Saab detailed, and have it done right. He has swirl marks. Thanks --- Ziv. p.s. Campbell or SJ areas are preferred. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:34:42 -0600 From: "Thomas G. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Radio Codes? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey all, I have '99 M3 and the battery went dead this winter so now the radio is displaying the CODE message. I don't have this so I took the car to my mechanic to have the radio pulled so I could get said code from the dealer and low and behold, there is no serial/chassis number visible on the radio. Anyone know what I should be looking for or how to obtain the code for a radio when you can't find the serial number? Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:46:40 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ///uucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TechFest East Reston VA May 13-16, 2004 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And another reminder. . . Originally established in 1981, Gateway Tech was an annual gathering hosted by the St. Louis BMW Club for those BMW enthusiasts who wanted to delve just a little deeper into the technology behind their Ultimate Driving Machine�. Every year for more than 20 years, the faithful took over a St. Louis hotel and filled it with BMW cars, gadgets and gearheads for three straight days, which included tech sessions, social gatherings, a showroom/vendor area, and a BMW CCA Club Race. Beginning with 2003, the event went mobile, with a different chapter being asked to host the event each year. The Los Angeles chapter was honored in 2003 with being the host chapter for the first event held outside of St. Louis and now the National Capital Chapter welcomes you to the Mid-Atlantic region in 2004. This event will be held at the Hyatt Regency Reston in Reston Virgina near Dulles Airport and 23 miles west of Washington DC. Full 4 day registration $150.00. 2 days of technical seminars (Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning), lunch Friday and Saturday. Welcome Reception Thursday evening. Dinner Friday and Saturday evenings. Door prizes, key note speakers. First Class Hyatt Hotel just $119/single. Make your reservations now! http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast/ Some of the technical sessions we are working on (subject to change) -Basic Cosmetics - Car Care OnLine, Larry Reynolds -Basic Maintenance Q&A - CCA Tech Service Advisors -Paintless Dent Repair - Matt McNally -Leather Care, Preservation, Restoration - Leatherique, George Pavlisko -Tire Manufacturers Rep Forum -DIY Brake Pads - Curry's Auto Service, Chris Coulter -Electrical Fundamentals, Troubleshooting - Bentley Publishers, Charlie Burke -How Breaks der Bimmer: Ways BMW Parts Fail - Terry Sayther, Grant Randall -Modern Lubricants -BMW's New Technology, including DSC, Active Steering - BMW NA Expert -Open Q&A Forums - BMW CCA Tech Service Advisors -Typical Rust Problems - Mike Self -Finding Parts for Old BMWs - BMW Mobile Tradition, Maximillian Importing -Restorations: Classic & High Performance - Korman Autoworks, Ray Korman -Software Upgrades -Suspension Upgrades:Street to Track - Road Race Technologies, Barry Battle -Suspension Upgrades:Track to Race - Ground Control, Jay Morris -Track Safety Gear: HANS, Helmets, Harness, Seats - HMS Motorsport -Brake Upgrades -Club Racing: How to Get Started - BMW CCA Club Racing -Club Racing: How to Race - BMW CCA Club Racing -Race Car Prep -Cylinder Heads - Memphis Motorwerks, Leo Goff -E30 M3 Engine Rebuilds, the Right Way - Precision Performance, Pete McHenry -Swapping in Bigger Bimmer Engines - Precision Performance, Pete McHenry -Turbo Charging - Active Autowerke, Karl Hugh -Supercharging Additional speakers Jim Conforti and Josh MacMurray Friday evening keynote speaker David Hobbs EXHIBITORS BMW NA Dinner Sponsor Toyo Tires Dinner Sponsor Road Race Technologies Lunch Sponsor CDOC Lunch Sponsor Others attending and expecting to attend Korman Autoworks Carbotech Engineering Emmons Coachworks BMW Team PTG Just waiting for the other registrations to come in. Plus lots of door prizes! -- ...steven TechFest East http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast 2003 Mini Cooper S 1996 BMW 328ti ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:57:27 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did the stomp test Monday afternoon before driving home after work, and the code was still there. 1221 = oxygen sensor. It is only about 30K miles old, so I'm disappointed that it did not last longer before setting a fault. Cheap Bosch crap! :^) Since I'm due for a smog check soon, I'll have to replace it. I haven't driven the car since the trip home Monday. I wonder if the code is erased from memory after you read it out? Stay tuned. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i "Flashy" ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(12 messages) **********
