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Volume 2 : Issue 157 : "text" Format
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Re: E36 power steering delete
Re: E36 power steering delete
E46 M3
Re: E46 M3
Re: E46 M3
Re: White Collar Crime
Re: Education
Re: OT - Religion (some bmw content)
E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge
Re: [E36racers] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge
Re: Engine rebuild...timing question
Re: TechFest East May 13-16, 2004 Reston VA
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:10:27 -0500
From: "Bredle, Donald L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E36 power steering delete
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Barry (and others):
I've search the UUC archives for info on the PS delete, but I can't find much. I am
thinking of doing this, since I seem to be deleting a bunch of other 'non-performance'
stuff too (fan, A/C, ASC+T) . Can you guys point me to any good, overall description
of this modification?
What do you have to worry about (besides maintaining enough arm muscle) when you
disable the power steering? I seem to remember reading something about keeping the
steering rack, or some other part, lubricated adequately if the pump is disabled.
Also, if I put an underdrive pulley on the water pump, will I be able to find a belt
to fit that unique length?
Thanks.
Don Bredle
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:30:14 -0700
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bredle, Donald L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 power steering delete
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
re: PS Delete:
The new belt length using the original water pump pulley is 56.0
inches, a common length stocked by most parts stores. For the
underdrive wp pulley, I haven't got that far yet either.
To calculate belt length to use with a wp underdrive pulley I would
take one half the increase in pulley circumference (pi/2 times the
[{diameter of new pulley} minus {diameter of stock pulley}] ), round up
to the next nearest half inch, and add to the current 56.0 inch length
belt I'm using with the stock wp pulley. I'm using half the
circumference increase as a guesstimate since the belt wraps about
halfway around the pulley.
Would someone on the list be who has the UUC wp pully be willing to
measure either the circumference ( measure the length of a piece of
string wrapped around it) or the diameter measured with a caliper? That
would save Don and I and others working on the PS delete some time.
I called UUC last week to order a wp underdrive pully and they said
to call back because they said the pulleys are sold in sets and not
normally sold separately. That's on my call list for tomorrow. Once I
get the pully I'll visit the local Kragen again (Kragen seems imo to
impress a better customer service attitude on their employees than Pep
Boys) to see what lengths of belts are in stock or that can be ordered.
For rack lubrication, first cut the hose that goes to the upper
rack hole. I needed a hacksaw to do this. This hose will then be
looped back over to the front lower fluid tube outlet.
These hoses are _thick and barely expand. So to get it over the
flare at the front lower fluid tube I filed the flare down smooth to the
same diameter as the rest of the tubing.
Then fill the rack with atf by putting a hose and funnel in the
front lower hole in the rack, and once full, quickly remove your filler
funnel and press the cut off PS pump hose in its place. There's
probably other ways to accomplish this too. The goal is to have the
rack full of fluid and the hose from the top of the rack looped over to
the front.
Good Luck,
Barry
Bredle, Donald L. wrote:
[bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages)
Barry (and others):
I've search the UUC archives for info on the PS delete, but I can't
find much. I am thinking of doing this, since I seem to be deleting a
bunch of other 'non-performance' stuff too (fan, A/C, ASC+T) . Can you
guys point me to any good, overall description of this modification?
What do you have to worry about (besides maintaining enough arm
muscle) when you disable the power steering? I seem to remember
reading something about keeping the steering rack, or some other
part, lubricated adequately if the pump is disabled. Also, if I put an
underdrive pulley on the water pump, will I be able to find a belt to
fit that unique length?
> Thanks.
> Don Bredle
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E46 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anyone know if there is a dedicated E46 M3 forum
out there?
TIA.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:28:58 -0400
From: "Robert Jackowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Roadfly...but it's pretty juvenile.
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From: david kroth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] E46 M3
Anyone know if there is a dedicated E46 M3 forum
out there?
TIA.
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:17:39 -0500
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
www.bimmerforums.com
http://www.bimmerfest.org/
http://www.bmwlinks.com/
Regards
Jamie Howton
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jackowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 4/24/2004 8:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [UUC] E46 M3
Roadfly...but it's pretty juvenile.
-----Original Message-----
From: david kroth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] E46 M3
Anyone know if there is a dedicated E46 M3 forum
out there?
TIA.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:34:47 -0400
From: Dana Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: White Collar Crime
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brett contends that there is more white collar crime than any other. I
am not disputing that this may be fact, but am very curious as to what
is the basis for the claim.
Can someone enlighten me?
Dana Earl
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:17:14 -0300
From: "rblangille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Education
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brett, you're a top-drawer master-tech, no doubt about it, and few people
want to run the risk of p.o.'g one of the most helpful guys on this site.
But you're waaaaaaay out in left field on the education debate.
I would add that, apart from education keeping them out of jail, it's handy
to have at least moderately educated people around to do the stuff most of
us would rather not.
R Langille
P.S. And on the 'religion' topic, the most relevent and insightful comment
yet came from Scott Staewen, with his suggestion of the Church of Umoron.
>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:23:46 -0400
>From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Taxes, was "New cars are getting too expensive to fix"
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>But given that there is far more "white collar" crime in the US than any
>other form, discovered or otherwise, I think that argument doesn't hold
>water.
>Most uneducated people wouldn't know how to commit a crime........
>College graduates, on the other hand, seem to be very good at it.
>Brett Anderson
>KMS
> -----Original Message-----
> Because paying for schools is cheaper than housing
> prisoners.
>
> -tammer
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:59:46 -0700
From: C Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - Religion (some bmw content)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Scott Staewen wrote:
> :)
>
> Well, I've always been atheist too, but recently my family has suggested
> that I establish my own church,
Heh, already did. :o) No BMW content though.
http://shortbusstop.com/church
--
Corey Sattler
99 AvusBlau 318ti Sport
BMWCCA# 327137
-=-
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Racers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Group(s),
Just removed the sunroof cartridge from my E36 coupe
(thanks to those that e-mailed tips). Managed to get
the panel free of the cartridge, too (not the easiest
thing I've ever done). Now, the questions:
What methods of reattaching the panel to the roof have
you used? I've seen some neat bracketry, which I can
duplicate at a friend's machine shop. Is that the way
to go? I've also heard a bit about riveting.
Thoughts?
Secondly, when I put the panel back in the hole (just
with my hands), it seemed there was a slight space
between the panel and roof. What should be done to
keep this watertight - is it typical to apply some
sort of sealant to the groove either above or below
the roof?
Thanks in advance,
Neil
1994 325is Targa (almost)
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:34:05 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: E36 Racers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [E36racers] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Apr 24, 2004, at 8:59 PM, Neil N. wrote:
> What methods of reattaching the panel to the roof have
> you used? I've seen some neat bracketry, which I can
> duplicate at a friend's machine shop. Is that the way
> to go? I've also heard a bit about riveting.
> Thoughts?
We bolted the panel to brackets which were welded onto the roll cage.
Works great.
> Secondly, when I put the panel back in the hole (just
> with my hands), it seemed there was a slight space
> between the panel and roof. What should be done to
> keep this watertight - is it typical to apply some
> sort of sealant to the groove either above or below
> the roof?
LOL. Good luck.
I caulked the hell out of the gap and it STILL leaks. The problem is
that the roof flexes. A lot. So it just cracks the caulk and water
seeps through.
I'd love the better solution to this myself. Maybe windshield gasket
braid or something?
- Mark
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 02:46:35 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Engine rebuild...timing question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Umm, why exactly did you need to interrupt cam timing to fix a broken water
pump stud?
Brett Anderson
KMS
> -----Original Message-----
> One question
> I have in particular is do I need the special timing chain
> tensioner that is mentioned in the Bently? I cant remember the
> specific part number. Can I just use anything to hold the chain
> tight on install? How particular is the torque required on the
> special tensionser? This seems like a very important step since
> the amount of play in the chain will effect the overall timing
> when fully installed. I dont want to have too much slack so that
> the cams roll forward when its released. However, I have noticed
> that most special tools are really just simple tools that have a
> specific purpose, like the flywhe!
> el locking tool. Also does anyone have any specific markings I
> could use when reinstalling the cams? The Bently basically says
> to have the 1st lobes point up and towards each other. It seems
> that there could be a link or two difference in the chain using
> that method. Finally if anyone has any other insight on putting
> this head back together please let me know. I am a little
> paranoid that I am going to ram a piston into a valve. Thanks
> for a the posts from when I was taking it apart. Just think all
> this to fix a broken water pump mounting stud the right way. Oh
> one last question. Anything to check when reinstalling for
> specific wear? Obviously the things listed in the Bently but are
> there any parts that cause particular nastiness if unchecked?
>
> Roy Collins
> '96 328i in pieces on the garage floor.
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:01:52 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TechFest East May 13-16, 2004 Reston VA
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I wish I could could attend, souns great...work is killing me:-(
David in Richmond, VA
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From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 23, 2004 8:15 AM
To: ///uucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UUC] TechFest East May 13-16, 2004 Reston VA
This is a reminder that the National Capital
Chapter is hosting TechFest East May 13-16, a
national BMW CCA event. Friday's dinner speaker
David Hobbs. Saturday's dinner speaker Tom
Milner. 2 dozen tech sessions each day - check
the list for topics and speakers. Don't delay to
register.
Full registration $150, Thursday Welcome
Reception, Tech Sessions Friday and Saturday,
polo shirt, vendor area plus lunch and dinner.
Friday or Saturday $90, Tech Sessions, vendor area plus lunch and dinner
Special Dinner only pass $60, Friday and Saturday dinners only.
Sorry, there are no vendor or tech session only registrations.
Expect to spend the whole day absorbing a wealth
of information and relax over dinner with 300 of
your friends.
Plus loads of door prizes and cars on display.
http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast
BMW CCA TechFest East '04 Topics and Speakers
Topics are listed from basic to advanced skills.
Sessions will last about 50 minutes. Classes run
from 9 to noon then after lunch from 1 to 5 on
Friday and Saturday. Unless noted, topics will
be presented both days.
Basic Skill Level -
-Ultimate Cosmetic Care (Friday) -
Zym�l: Pure, Powerful, Perfect - Larry Emmons
-Ultimate Cosmetic Care (Saturday) -
Car Care Specialties - Larry Reynolds
-Leather Preservation and Restoration -
Leatherique - George Pavlisko
-Paintless Dent Removal -
Pro Vision Dent Repair - Matt McNally
-Understanding BMW Maintenance Schedules -
Curry's Auto Service - Chris Coulter
-How to Overcome Iophobia (Fear of Rust) -
Roundel Columnist - Mike Self
-Parts & Services for Classic BMWs -
BMW Mobile Tradition - Dirk Alberts
Maximillian Importing - Max Conover
-Ask the Experts Open Q&A Forum -
BMW CCA Tech Service Advisors
Intermediate Skill Level -
-BMW Advanced Road Car Technology: SMG, DSC, Active Steering (Friday) -
BMW North America - Marcus Fiege
-Electrical Fundamentals & Troubleshooting -
Bentley Publishers - Charlie Burke
-How Breaks der Bimmer: the Ways BMW Parts Fail (4 part series) -
Sayther Automotive - Terry Sayther
Alexandria Bavarian - Grant Randall
-Restorations: Classic & High Performance -
Korman Autoworks - Ray Korman
-Street and Track Suspension: Geometry Analysis and Correction -
Road Race Technologies - Chris Hutchins, Barry Battle
-Brake Upgrades -
Performance Friction - Ray Guy
-Track Safety: HANS, Helmets, Harness, Seats -
HMS Motorsport - Jeff Paulk
Advanced Skill Level -
-BMW Team PTG Race Car Technology (Saturday) -
BMW Team PTG - Brian Krem
-BMW CCA Club Racing: How to Get Started -
Scott & Fran Hughes
-BMW CCA Club Racing: Car Prep, Rules and Safety
Scott & Fran Hughes
-Suspension Upgrades: Track and Race -
Ground Control - Jay Morris
-Advanced Cylinder Head Technologies -
Memphis Motorwerks - Leo Goff
-E30 M3 Engine Rebuilds, the Right Way -
Precision Performance - Pete McHenry
-BMW Engine Swaps: Modern Engine Technology to Revitalize Older Bimmers-
Precision Performance - Pete McHenry
-E36 Turbo Charging & Related Tuning (Saturday) -
Active Autowerke - Karl Hugh
-Supercharging & Related Tuning -
Bonneville Motor Werks - Jim Conforti
Eurosport - Josh MacMurray
-Mods for the New Mini -
Sayther Autmotive - Terry Sayther
--
...steven
TechFest East http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast
2003 Mini Cooper S
1996 BMW 328ti
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