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  Re: Motorsports Colors
  Re: Sports Suspension differences between '01 and current
  [FS] 15x8 Kosei K-1 Racing wheels
  New BMW Autocross Forum
  @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
  No Right  Backup Light

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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:13:58 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Motorsports Colors
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 6/8/04 11:20 AM, Paul Dunlevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Any one got the Pantone numbers for the Motorsports' colors readily at
> hand.

Info from a long ago post by someone else:

For painting -
Blue-Violet Glasurit/BMW 4000
Light-Blue Glasurit/BMW 5002
Red Glasurit/BMW 353

For printing -
Blue: Pantone Process Blue
Purple: Pantone 268
Red: Pantone Warm Red

For RGB Display - 
Blue: 0 138 201
Purple: 43 17 90
Red: 241 26 34

Neil
96 M3


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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:37:28 +0100
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sports Suspension differences between '01 and current
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ziv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

"I have an 01 330Ci with the Sports package. I love it.
This weekend, I drove a friend's 04 325CiC. It felt crispier, and the
suspension felt even tighter then my 330. It also felt lighter weight, but
that could be because it doesn't have a roof (though I heard they are bottom
heavy, right?) Also, it may have felt lighter because of the lesser weight
of the engine? Again, I'm just guessing, w/o looking at the specs. It
definitely felt underpowered compared to my 330Ci."

Your car is older than your friend's; even BMWs get loose-limbed after a few
years.  There were wholesale changes made to suspension tuning right across
the board for 09/01 production onwards.  Certainly the part numbers are all
different.  At the time, BMW said that they had effectively given standard
cars the old sports suspension tuning, and the new sports tuning was stiffer
still.

The 325i's engine weighs barely less than that of the 330i.  The few kgs
difference, car for car, would be noticeable only to a weighbridge.  As it
is, the 325Ci convertible is considerably heavier anyway, and you have have
a point in that weight distribution is different in the ragtop.

It isn't surprising that the 325Ci felt less powerful than your car - it's
40 bhp down, and well over 100 kg up.  "Underpowered" seems to be one of
those terms which can be both absolute and relative at the same time :).

Andy T





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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 00:41:38 -0400
From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FS] 15x8 Kosei K-1 Racing wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey, if anyone is looking for some 15" x 8" Kosei K-1 Racing wheels in a 4 x
100 bolt pattern and ET32mm offset, please contact Greg Robinson directly at
rattle_your_dags "at" hotmail.com (replace "at" with @).

He has a like new set and he is located in Saratoga Springs, New York.

Please contact him directly if interested.  His comments below give a few
more details.

Regards,

Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Oh, one more thing - You don't happen to know anyone who may be
> interested
> in some 15x8 Kosei K-1 Racing wheels, do ya?  They are 15x8 et32
> all around
> and brand new (maybe like 200 miles on em).  They are absolutely
> spotless.
> These are
> drilled to fit VW's/E30's in 4x100 57.1mm CB.  No biggie really,
> but thought
> if you knew any interested people, I could get em a little bit of a deal
> over the regular price ($200 each - ouch!).
>
> Take care!


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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:42:25 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Bay Area AutoX List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New BMW Autocross Forum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

GGC member Kris Linquist has created a new forum for discussion of BMW
autocross issues.  This is not necessarily limited to BMW CCA members,
but is specific to the autocrossing of BMWs.  Check it out, and feel
free to join if you're interested.

http://www.bmwautox.com/phpBB2/index.php

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA




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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I
discovered after I had installed my left strut
tonight, that while trying to hold the shaft of my new
Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
or something?

Please help!! I could cry... :(

Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,
Brian


        
                
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:01:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Brian Ruiz wrote:
> Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I
> discovered after I had installed my left strut
> tonight, that while trying to hold the shaft of my new
> Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
> nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
> to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
> sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
> deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
> wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
> replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
> won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
> matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
> it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
> should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
> or something?
> 
> Please help!! I could cry... :(
> 
> Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,

Yeah, file down the raised areas.  You'll likely still get fluid leaking 
past the seal, but at least the seal won't get cut each time the shaft 
goes by...  The real fix is a new strut shaft (which likely means a new 
strut, but I don't know in this particular case).

And don't feel too bad.  Yeah, it was dumb, but folks have done a hell of 
a lot worse.  You've still got your fingers and toes afterall... :-)

Mark


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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:06:24 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My prefered tool for this sort of cleanup (if you have it) would be a fine,
flat, diamond hone - the sort of thing you would buy for sharpening knives.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=36799

Do you know, for certain, that this area of the shaft actually gets through
the seal?  If you are at the extreme limit of travel perhaps you're "lucky"
enough to have damaged the shaft at a point where it will never contact the
seal.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] @#*&!% I screwed up....


Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I
discovered after I had installed my left strut
tonight, that while trying to hold the shaft of my new
Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
or something?

Please help!! I could cry... :(

Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,
Brian


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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:47:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From Karl Zemlin
>
>My prefered tool for this sort of cleanup (if you have it) would be a fine,
>flat, diamond hone - the sort of thing you would buy for sharpening knives.
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=36799
>
>Do you know, for certain, that this area of the shaft actually gets through
>the seal?  If you are at the extreme limit of travel perhaps you're "lucky"
>enough to have damaged the shaft at a point where it will never contact the
>seal.
>

I wonder if a little JB weld or other metal filled epoxy (perhaps the local
hydraulic shop has something specific) would help fill up the divots and a
file or fine grit paper on a flat backing plate will take off the high
spots. 

When I tightened my struts I just grabbed the shaft with vicegrips up at the
top of the strut assembly. There is no way that part of the shaft will go
through the seal as the springs would have to collapse completely and then
shear off the spring perch. Odds are there wouldn't be much of a seal left
to damage at that point.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:46 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC] @#*&!% I screwed up....
>
>
>Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I
>discovered after I had installed my left strut
>tonight, that while trying to hold the shaft of my new
>Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
>nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
>to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
>sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
>deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
>wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
>replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
>won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
>matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
>it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
>should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
>or something?
>
>Please help!! I could cry... :(
>
>Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,
>Brian
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>


-- Joe

--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                        Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet


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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:46:03 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The first time I did struts (on an e28) I took a 7/8" socket (fits the nut)
and ground flats on the outside to fit a 15/16" open-end wrench.  I can then
hold the strut shaft with a hex key through middle of the socket and tighten
the nut with the open end wrench.

Just put Bilsteins on my e34 on Memorial Day.  Vice-grips never came near
them.  Sure, it took a while to grind up the socket, but I've been using
that same modified socket on struts for 15 years.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:48 AM
To: bmw list
Subject: Re: [UUC] @#*&!% I screwed up....


>From Karl Zemlin
>
>My prefered tool for this sort of cleanup (if you have it) would be a 
>fine, flat, diamond hone - the sort of thing you would buy for 
>sharpening knives.
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=36799
>
>Do you know, for certain, that this area of the shaft actually gets 
>through the seal?  If you are at the extreme limit of travel perhaps 
>you're "lucky" enough to have damaged the shaft at a point where it 
>will never contact the seal.
>

I wonder if a little JB weld or other metal filled epoxy (perhaps the local
hydraulic shop has something specific) would help fill up the divots and a
file or fine grit paper on a flat backing plate will take off the high
spots. 

When I tightened my struts I just grabbed the shaft with vicegrips up at the
top of the strut assembly. There is no way that part of the shaft will go
through the seal as the springs would have to collapse completely and then
shear off the spring perch. Odds are there wouldn't be much of a seal left
to damage at that point.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:46 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC] @#*&!% I screwed up....
>
>
>Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I discovered after I 
>had installed my left strut tonight, that while trying to hold the 
>shaft of my new Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
>nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
>to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
>sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
>deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
>wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
>replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
>won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
>matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
>it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
>should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
>or something?
>
>Please help!! I could cry... :(
>
>Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,
>Brian
>
>Search the 
>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
>___
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate 
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . 
>http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>


-- Joe

--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                        Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet

Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short
Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:16:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From Karl Zemlin
>
>The first time I did struts (on an e28) I took a 7/8" socket (fits the nut)
>and ground flats on the outside to fit a 15/16" open-end wrench.  I can then
>hold the strut shaft with a hex key through middle of the socket and tighten
>the nut with the open end wrench.

My Boge inserts don't have a hex in the end. I didn't have much choice but
to use the vice grips. So long as they don't slip, they don't seem tear up
the shaft any.

-- Joe

--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                        Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet


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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 08:07:48 -0400
From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @#*&!% I screwed up....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brian, 
I'd try polishing the bad spots with 600 grit emory cloth.  clean up real good along 
the way and afterwards.  Worst thing to happen is you'll shorten the life of the 
seal.....Well if you really mawled it up, who knows.  Be patient, work slowly.  

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Ruiz
Sent: Wed 6/9/2004 1:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] @#*&!% I screwed up....



Well, my stupidity finally got the best of me, and I
discovered after I had installed my left strut
tonight, that while trying to hold the shaft of my new
Bilstein sport shock to tighten the strut shaft top
nut, I put a couple gouges in the shaft somewhat close
to the seal on the strut (was using a doubled up old
sock and some vice grips....please flame away, I
deserve it).  Short of buying a brand new one, the
wait for it, and all the work to take it out and
replace it, what could I do that would be safe and
won't wreck the seal (or am I completely screwed no
matter what?)  I don't doubt I'll have to disassemble
it all to get good enough access to the shaft, but
should I file down the rough spots with some sandpaper
or something?

Please help!! I could cry... :(

Ridiculously embarrassed and feeling more so stupid,
Brian


       
               
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Friends.  Fun.  Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger.
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Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com




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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:57:53 -0400
From: "lieb923" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW e39" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "UUC DIGEST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No Right  Backup Light
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

'97 528/5
My right back up light does not work. Left side does. Tried different bulbs.
Tried lifting base ground spring. Can't find a listing for B/U fuse but the
other side works. Thinking bad connection. Didn't try continuity test yet
(too hot). Any one know what color wire to b/u? Any other thoughts? I hope
someone has BTDT.
Norman Lieberman '97 528/5


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