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  Re: was 177hp "High performance?", now elise
  Back to the front ...
  Re: Back to the front ...
  Re: Back to the front ...
  Abbreviations & DTM
  FS: A few misc items
  Wanted : //OBDII M3 stock hfm, ok if fried, and airbox
  Re: Bubbakids, Drain

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:48:56 -0600
From: Scott Staewen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: was 177hp "High performance?", now elise
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lotus lists the weight of the elise at 1984 lbs. The sport pack loses
20 lbs, and the touring pack adds 15 lbs. The sport pack has lighter
wheels, a half inch wider in front, with 195's in front rather than
the standard 175's. It has slightly stiffer springs and different
dampers, but the same brakes.

It's a very cool car IMO and very capable, especially on a tight
course. On more open courses, horsepower becomes a larger factor. I've
been on a waiting list for one of these for a while, but my kids'
college will likely push it to the back burner, at lease until I can
pick up a used one.

OBMWC: I figure the Elise would be a nice pairing with my relatively
corpulent M5.

Scott Staewen


On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:50:25 -0500, Robinson, Lee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course an Elise weighs just under 1000 lbs less than an E46 M3.
> > That's equivalent to roughly an extra 100hp, and of course
> > there's no way to make a car that weighs half a ton more
> > handle or brake anywhere near the capabilities of the Elise.
> 
> Agreed, & that's why the Elise is really a track junkie's dream.  Now, if
> you have to drive to work & back everyday, a BMW might be a preferable
> choice.......
> 
> Furthermore, the Elise is available with a sport package that adds, I think,
> coilovers (or at very least much more aggressive shocks & springs), bigger
> wheels, tires & brakes.
> 
> Last time I checked, the Elise was around 2000 or 2100lbs.  The E46 M3 is
> 3400lbs+ & that's a lot.
> 
> >
> > Brian
> > '94 325ic
> 
> Lee
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
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> 
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:16:28 -0600
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Back to the front ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In this search for CHEAP ways to redo my 88 325IX front leather seats
the thought has occurred ......Why not get some CHEAP used rear seats
(colour matched of course !!) and re-use the leather from them to redo
the fronts seats .
Anyone 'Been there done that and have the tee-shirt to prove it '?? .
How did they turn out ??  Any tricks need to be known -like having more
than two or three rear seats (backs or bottoms ??) to get enough dead
cowcovering to complete the job ?? .
The beauty -or drawback?- of using the rearleather would be that they
are probably from similar good Jhermann cows dyed in the same tanneries
and already sewed into the ribbed patterns all our backsides have
learned to love . The difficulty might be in finding wide-enough
non-ribbed bits to do the four side-bolsters on two sports-seats and
having them be flexible enough to still be easily sewed after 20 yrs of
kids peeing on them when dad refused to stop .
Comments ?? .remember the Corporate motto here "Think Cheap " .... 
Bill Proud in Tenn .(cheep cheep )   


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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:01:31 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BMWBits)
Cc: [email protected] (Uucdigest)
Subject: Re: Back to the front ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From BMWBits
>
>In this search for CHEAP ways to redo my 88 325IX front leather seats
>the thought has occurred ......Why not get some CHEAP used rear seats
>(colour matched of course !!) and re-use the leather from them to redo
>the fronts seats .
>Anyone 'Been there done that and have the tee-shirt to prove it '?? .
>How did they turn out ??  Any tricks need to be known -like having more
>than two or three rear seats (backs or bottoms ??) to get enough dead
>cowcovering to complete the job ?? .
>The beauty -or drawback?- of using the rearleather would be that they
>are probably from similar good Jhermann cows dyed in the same tanneries
>and already sewed into the ribbed patterns all our backsides have
>learned to love . The difficulty might be in finding wide-enough
>non-ribbed bits to do the four side-bolsters on two sports-seats and
>having them be flexible enough to still be easily sewed after 20 yrs of
>kids peeing on them when dad refused to stop .
>Comments ?? .remember the Corporate motto here "Think Cheap " .... 
>Bill Proud in Tenn .(cheep cheep )   
>

I did something very similar to this to repair my driver seat. The leather
on the seat bottom was cracked and torn in several places. Unable to find a
seat in the same color that was in better condition, I replaced the
offending panel with a newer piece of leather from the seat back of a seat
in the junkyard.

Here is what you are in for:

1) Just because it is leather and the right color doesn't mean it is the
   same. I discovered that the seats changed subtly over the years. The
   ribbed bits varried in dimensions based on the year and car they were in.
   Then there was the matter of the plastic piping that may or may not have
   been worked into the seat. Not all had it.

2) Get enough. The seats are bigger than they look. The piece I got wasn't
   long enough to do the entire seat bottom. I had to make a splice under
   the seat back. Not bad looking (better than what was there) but not
   right.

3) This is where you get to take apart your seats. It is amazing how complex
   these things are. I ended up taking both of mine completely apart and
   rebuilding the passenger side into the driver side so I could work on
   wearing out that leather. This also let me drive the car for the week it
   took me to finish stitching the "new" panel into the old seat.

4) Do you like sewing? In leather? Done this before? You will love it! If
   you are just swapping panels like I was there is the matter of getting
   the holes to line up enough to work. It wasn't hard, but it was fiddly.
   Then you get to hold an unwieldy bit of leather and try to get the needle
   through 2-4 layers worth of holes. It is slow and you can't use a machine
   here. When you have to make your own holes, you need pliers and a good
   supply of needles or a beefy machine and a good supply of needles. 

5) It turns out well. The leather is all the same age and has a similar
   patina, so it matches. It can be done, but it is a lot of work, although,
   there doesn't seem to be much choice anymore.

It can be done, but you gotta really want it.

-- Joe

--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                        Jack of All Trades, Master of None... 
Yet

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:09:57 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Back to the front ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Control yourself, Bill. It's just all that extra water escaping from your 
system. It'll take a minimum of a couple of years before you start thinking 
right. I used to live up in Seattle myself and when I came down to San Diego, 
my thought processes were like yours until my system dried up of all the rain 
water. LOL.

You'll be fine. ;-))

Pingger
> 
> From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/02/03 Thu PM 12:16:28 EST
> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [UUC]  Back to the front ...
> 
> In this search for CHEAP ways to redo my 88 325IX front leather seats
> the thought has occurred ......Why not get some CHEAP used rear seats
> (colour matched of course !!) and re-use the leather from them to redo
> the fronts seats .
> Anyone 'Been there done that and have the tee-shirt to prove it '?? .
> How did they turn out ??  Any tricks need to be known -like having more
> than two or three rear seats (backs or bottoms ??) to get enough dead
> cowcovering to complete the job ?? .
> The beauty -or drawback?- of using the rearleather would be that they
> are probably from similar good Jhermann cows dyed in the same tanneries
> and already sewed into the ribbed patterns all our backsides have
> learned to love . The difficulty might be in finding wide-enough
> non-ribbed bits to do the four side-bolsters on two sports-seats and
> having them be flexible enough to still be easily sewed after 20 yrs of
> kids peeing on them when dad refused to stop .
> Comments ?? .remember the Corporate motto here "Think Cheap " .... 
> Bill Proud in Tenn .(cheep cheep )   
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 


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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:41:08 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Abbreviations & DTM
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Badges? We don�t need no stinking badges!

Sorry couldn�t resist.

Congrats on the baby Jack.

I got two words for you�.. snip it.  
We need you on the track.

Take care of your family.  We'll be there when your ready

Bill Wade




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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:42:17 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: FS: A few misc items
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi All,

I'm trying to do a bit of cleaning up in the garage, and have a couple of
misc items to get rid of. Figured I'd see if anyone is interested:

- Sparco 5-point harness:
http://www.justracing.com/classified/57

- E36 M3 rear sway bar:
http://www.justracing.com/classified/58

- E36 radiator, used
http://www.justracing.com/classified/58

I'll deliver within the SF Bay Area. If shipping is required, you'll pay
actual shipping costs.

Cheers,
Jim Bassett


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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:24:29 -0800
From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>,
   bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wanted : //OBDII M3 stock hfm, ok if fried, and airbox
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


     Just looking to borrow a stock airbox and HFM sensor for a 96 to 99 
//M3.    HFM sensor can be shot as I only need to measure dimensions.  
I'll gladly pick up and deliver them back to you in or around the SF Bay 
Area.
Thanks,
Barry

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:48:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bubbakids, Drain
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gruppe: 

Someone asked about the Bubbkids etc from the old
list. I  contacted Dr. Keith Battan who sez that they
are doing well, living with their grandparents. 

Duane, Drain, DRC, Draino has a hogly davidson chromed
out the wazoo, an automatic Mercedes convert (which is
for sale), and has sold the Kubota tractor. We all
think he's up to something but who knows?

Jon<---UUC charter member


                
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