The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 547 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Need reputable tire installer in Akron, Ohio arae Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: English <OT> English Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: Dead English Re: <OT> English Re: S50 valve cover
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], John Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Need reputable tire installer in Akron, Ohio arae Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > responses. They use Corghi equipment and have a > beautiful showroom, clean shop, etc.). If your > son wants "perfection", this is the place to go to, > no question. I second the Corghi equipment recommendation. The Big O tire shop that I patronized has one. Though it takes longer to mount. ===== Get Firefox! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:41:35 -0600 From: Timothy J Toohey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ) There. Tim T. '89 325is Tom Kosmalski wrote: > Tim Toohey > '89 325is > -the pot calling the kettle black (I probably threw a comma where I > should not have, or ended a sentence in a preposition. > > We'll, jee, aht leest klose you're parenthetical staytmints!! :-) :-) > > Tom K. > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:10:48 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob says: "A "foreigner" that speaks English better than many Americans gathers little sympathy. ;-)" Is that because he's (he is) a rolling stone????? BWAAAA Haaaaaa HAAAAA Neil's (Neil is) a ferner..... no way. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:21:17 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One of the contributors, in addressing the matter of the > Bubble Car, wrote: > > >FWIW, the new owner seems to be a little, we'll say un-spendthrift. > >Why would anyone pay the rumored price for a track car when > there are > >gobs of very nice examples available for 1/3 of the price? > > Actually, "a spendthrift" is 'one who spends money profusely > or wastefully'. > I certainly understand the reason for the mistake, though. > It would not be unreasonable to think that a word containing > 'thrift' means, well, 'thrifty'. Yea, yea, yea....the transgressions of a scatter-brain can be annoying. I don't know how this happened. I still remember when I was fifteen my mother explained the whole spendthrift thing to me. Please don't forward this to her, as she'll likely call right away to remind me. > > He also wrote.... > > ->could care less what anybody does with any of their cars, too busy > >worrying about mine > > > The expression is correctly "couldn't care less", meaning one > is enormously indifferent. It is frequently mis-stated. If > one "could cares less", then one actually DOES care. i.e. you > are capable of caring LESS. Hmmmm, this I've used both ways. I've always used "couldn't care less" (actually I usually say "couldn't be less interested", i.e. "I couldn't be less interested in YOUR problem.") when I wanted to be left alone. I've always used "could care less" in the case of indifference. I actual apparently DID care as I took the time to post. More like thanks for the info & I'm interested to hear about what's going on with the bubble car but, I'm not apt to do anything about it. I can see how saying "could care less" would upset some people though. Lee > > Roger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:22:34 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can we find some Brits & get their opinions? I always love to hear what they have to say about the language we speak here. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wy > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:52 > To: [email protected]; 'Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks' > Subject: Re: [UUC] English > > According to my "Colonial English", > > > > > Ralph's car is red? > > is the shorthand for "Ralph 'is' car is red" > the "correct" use of 's is such "Ralph's angry" > > > > Or, > > > > Ralphs' car is red? > > > the s' means that the car belongs to Ralph > > But I may be wrong if it is American English, which I know > little of except for slangs.. > > > > > Literally challenged in Houston, > > > > Paul A. Garnier > > Systems Integration > > FastNetworking > > 281-827-0725 cell/pgr > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob > Levinson * > > UUC Motorwerks > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:09 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [UUC] English > > > > > > > > THANK YOU! > > > > I don't get why so many people misuse that expression. It's > > meaningless the wrong way, yet it is built of common words. > Where is > > the misunderstanding for those that say it like that? > > > > Now if we could make people understand that using excessive > > apostrophization does not get them frequent-flyer miles, > we'd be set. > > For those unsure - err on the side of caution, only use the > apostrophe > > for possession. Please stop using it for pluralization. > > > > Many BMWs are built. My BMW's color is blue. > > Simple. > > > > - Rob > > > > On Feb 17, 2005, at 7:35 AM, Roger Langille wrote: > > > > > ->could care less what anybody does with any of > > their cars, too busy > > >> worrying about mine > > > > > > > > > The expression is correctly "couldn't care less", > > meaning one is > > > enormously indifferent. It is frequently > > mis-stated. If one "could > > > cares less", then one actually DOES care. i.e. you > > are capable of > > > caring LESS. > > > > > > Roger > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW > > CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . > > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW > > CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > ===== > Get Firefox! > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:51:21 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <OT> English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's not, Ralph's Car's is Red's? Ohh well, back to Strunk and White. Didn't we cover this about 4 years ago. Language Moderator , Kathy , Languange Moderator!!!!!!! Next week fun with pro-nouns in the BMW fatherlands Hochdeutch.<OBMWC> -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:46:49 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ohh, etymological coelacanth, I like that. So that makes a Porsche 911 an automotive coelacanth. Gary Derian > "learned". The "learnt" or "learn'd" is a very pre-Shakespearian > construct > that has bottom-fed through the years in certain English-speaking locales > like an etymological coelocanth. > > - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:22:41 -0800 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So you're calling a 911 a bottom feeder? rofl, Barry Gary Derian wrote: > Ohh, etymological coelacanth, I like that. So that makes a Porsche > 911 an automotive coelacanth. > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:23:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But one that evolved more successfully than its aquatic counterpart. -tammer --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ohh, etymological coelacanth, I like that. So that makes > a Porsche 911 an > automotive coelacanth. > > Gary Derian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:04:04 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Successfully? 400 million years for the fish versus around 50 years for the pig*. Who is it that has the more successful track record at this point? By the coelacanth's timetable, all of us monkeys fell out of the trees very recently. * You can't make a racehorse out of a pig, but you can make an extremely fast pig. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammer Farid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] English > But one that evolved more successfully than its aquatic > counterpart. > > -tammer > > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ohh, etymological coelacanth, I like that. So that makes > > a Porsche 911 an > > automotive coelacanth. > > > > Gary Derian > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:54:14 -0800 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What about verb usages of 'Ralph' I learned in college, though the classroom's lecturns weren't at the head of the class, well maybe if the class were being taught in a rocking boat. lol. Ralphing = the act of worshipping porcelain gods. :-X Figuratively challenged in Mountain View, Barry Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks wrote: > Ralphs = more than one Ralph. "I just met four Ralphs standing in a > corner and discussing themselves. Must be a Ralph Convention." > Ralph's = Ralph owns the following thing. "I backed my truck into > Ralph's BMW." > Ralphs' = Many (or all) of the Ralphs that exist own the following > thing. "The Ralphs' greatest consternation is thinking that a barking > dog is calling them." > <... > - Rob > On Feb 17, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Paul Garnier wrote: > >> So, >> Ralphs car is red? >> Or, >> Ralph's car is red? >> Or, >> Ralphs' car is red? >> Literally challenged in Houston, >> Paul A. Garnier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:16:34 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Dead English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proper noun: Coelacanth As in "the proof of the Coelacanth pudding is in the eating." [is that period inside the quotes or outside??? oooh oohh here comes the Penguin] Heee heee. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <OT> English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WOOHOO! You guys are awesome! I would have spoken up about these errors before (maybe I have ?), as I've noticed them so many times in so many different places (not just here), but I've given up on correcting people. I recall noticing errors like these since I was in junior high school, or even earlier. Some take the correction pretty harshly, so I just wanted to avoid getting flamed. ;) The question that always enters _my_ mind is where the school systems went wrong in teaching our kids and others the use of apostrophes, pluralization, your/you're, loose/lose, and other such constructs. It is irritating to see even well educated people misuse these words. The lack of people speaking up about it though (myself included) just passively encourages the improper usage. It seems many people who ARE in the know about how to properly use grammar just put up with the errors and chock them up as characteristic of the current college generation. When I was in college, even there some professors didn't mark off points on essays or papers where students misused these words. It is actually kind of depressing....but I digress... AHHHHHHHHHHH. ;) Thanks guys for speaking up! Brian --- Timothy J Toohey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we're on the topic of the English language I'd > like to quickly > vent my frustration on two other misused words. By > no means do I > consider myself an expert on the English language, > nor am I infallible > when composing email, but I frequently see the > following words used > incorrectly. > > your = Your BMW drives like a dream. > you're = Be sure that you're taking the right path. > lose = I can't stand it when the Vikings lose. > loose = When young children have a loose tooth, they > tend to play with > it until it falls out. > > Tim Toohey > '89 325is > -the pot calling the kettle black (I probably threw > a comma where I > should not have, or ended a sentence in a > preposition. > > p.s. Coelacanth is spelled c-o-e-l-a-c-a-n-t-h. ;P > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=coelacanth > > Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [UUC] English > > > > > > > >>Rob: > >> > >>I thought the question was a joke. I guess I was > >>wrong. I'll put it down to a cultural thing and > play > >>the foreigner card! > > > > > > A "foreigner" that speaks English better than many > Americans gathers little > > sympathy. ;-) > > > > > > > >>Here is one that maybe you can clarify. I grew up > >>saying, "The proof of the pudding is in the > eating," > >>but most people I come across here say, "The proof > is > >>in the pudding." Does this mean, the proof of a > >>cook's skill is in the eating of his pudding and > the > >>cook, etc., are all assumed? Is it a completely > >>different saying from what I'm talking about? > >>I've even challenged some of my friends on this > and > >>they seem convinced they are correct. To me "my" > >>version is easy to understand, a pudding is > "proved" > >>when it tastes good upon eating. > > > > > > > > Details about that here: > > http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20020903.html > > > > That situation is one in which an actual quote > from Bileau/Cervantes that > > has meaning in and of itself is truncated and > abbreviated, becoming a > > euphemism. "The proof is in the pudding" can > either be assumed to include a > > parenthetical reference to how it tastes, or > simply without meaning at all > > but having the understanding of meaning that it > must be used to be tested. > > > > Euphemisms themselves get "special dispensation" > regarding literal meaning. > > Another example includes "he ripped me a new one" > referring to a browbeating > > or beratement as harshly equivalent to having > another subintestinal orifice > > installed (one assumes involuntarily), yet the > forced rendering of such > > opening is assumed. The expression does not > directly mention the new fecal > > egress, nor does it literally mean that such a > thing was done. The > > stand-alone expression "he ripped me a new one" > would have no meaning to > > someone unfamiliar with the euphemism. > > > > Another example is from England itself, where they > have two expressions > > which are similar yet effectively opposite. One > can say something that is > > superbly good is "the dog's bollocks" but when > something bad or repugnant is > > suddenly presented, the exclamation is "bollocks!" > As an aside, "bollocks!" > > is a cross-cultural cousin to the > Simpsons-inspired "Doh!" (which is > > distinctly misused and abused when > apostrophe-infatuated Americans write it > > as "D'oh!" for no logical reason). These > bollocks-inspired expressions > > refer to nothing having to do with testes > (bollocks being the slang word for > > one's two-veg componentry), neither human nor > canine. The reasoning is even > > more shrouded in myst regarding the distinction of > dog testes being the only > > good sort, far superior to the generic variety. > Nonetheless, as euphemisms > > the meaning is clear to those that employ them. > > > > Explanation of euphemisms aside, the sloppy usage > of "could care less" is > > not excused; it is not sufficiently euphemistic to > excuse it as a complete > > opposite-meaning phrase deliberately used to > amplify via absurdity (e.g. > > "Yeah, she's hot" when referring to a woman of > hideous appearance). > > > > > > > >>P.S. Learned (learnt) nothing from "Eats Shoots > and > >>Leaves," but was reminded of a Nevil Shute book > that I > >>greatly enjoyed via a quotation in it. > > > > > > "Learnt" itself is a carryover from the somewhat > less-constructed English > > prevalent 500 or more years ago. As past tense of > "to learn", it is rightly > > "learned". The "learnt" or "learn'd" is a very > pre-Shakespearian construct > > that has bottom-fed through the years in certain > English-speaking locales > > like an etymological coelocanth. > > > > - Rob > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > For more information please visit > http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:26:22 -0500 From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: S50 valve cover Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marco, I seem to remember reading in a number of places that the S50 valve/cam cover was magnesium. Most recently I think the latest project car in Grassroots had some blurb about that when speaking of the relatively common paint-peeling problem of the cam cover on those engines. That said; I have found errors in various magazine articles over the years. Indeed it is harder to get paint/coatings to stick to magnesium. I'm not sure other than visual inspection how to easily tell the difference between aluminum and magnesium. Fortunately for me, my S50 cam cover has not started peeling.....at least yet. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- Re: S50 valve cover From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: S50 valve cover I should have been clearer. I meant the S50 as in the 3.0L which does not have a plastic valve cover. My engine builder wants to put a heat dispersant coating on the cover and while stripping the stock coating off of it he said it sure didn't seem like Al. Marco **************************************************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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