The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 622 : "text" Format

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of the lists 
opinions:

(max perf. category)
Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP

Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3

Kumho ECSTA MX

lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are cheap)

FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most 
Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more attractive 
but I already have them and was thinking of being adventurous.

TIA

Clyde
98 M3/4



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> (max perf. category)
> Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> 
> Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> 
> Kumho ECSTA MX
> 
> lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are cheap)

Have you considered the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s?

--Andre


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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:53:14 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Andrew,

I have consider the PS2 but the Goodyears are also on sale for about $15/ 
tire cheaper.  Did you have any opinion on the ones I listed or do you have 
the PS2s?

Thanks

Clyde

>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> > (max perf. category)
> > Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> >
> > Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> >
> > Kumho ECSTA MX
> >
> > lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are 
>cheap)
>
>Have you considered the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s?
>
>--Andre
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> I have consider the PS2 but the Goodyears are also on sale for about $15/ 
> tire cheaper.  Did you have any opinion on the ones I listed or do you have 
> the PS2s?

I have the PS2s, and had the S-03s before that.  The PS2s are better than
the S-03s especially in terms of feedback.  I've never tried the
Goodyears, but a friend with a 350Z Track package was not very impressed
with them, FWIW.  My car is an E46 328Ci sport package with stock
suspension for the S-03s, and halfway through the PS2s' lives.

--Andre


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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:36:43 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


As far as the PS2s and the S-03s is the ride harsher with the PS2s?  Are 
they louder or quieter than the S-03s?  The sale on the S-03s is fairly 
significant so the PS2s would need to be better in the areas I just 
mentioned as well as wet performance.

What do you think Andre?

Clyde
98 M3/4
Blk on Tan

>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> > I have consider the PS2 but the Goodyears are also on sale for about 
>$15/
> > tire cheaper.  Did you have any opinion on the ones I listed or do you 
>have
> > the PS2s?
>
>I have the PS2s, and had the S-03s before that.  The PS2s are better than
>the S-03s especially in terms of feedback.  I've never tried the
>Goodyears, but a friend with a 350Z Track package was not very impressed
>with them, FWIW.  My car is an E46 328Ci sport package with stock
>suspension for the S-03s, and halfway through the PS2s' lives.
>
>--Andre
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> As far as the PS2s and the S-03s is the ride harsher with the PS2s?  Are 
> they louder or quieter than the S-03s?  The sale on the S-03s is fairly 
> significant so the PS2s would need to be better in the areas I just 
> mentioned as well as wet performance.

You can't go wrong with either one.  The differences are a matter of
personal preference more than real performance you might see in everyday
driving.  Besides, neither tire will last very long, so you'll get to try
the other one if you don't like the current one.

--Andre



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:47:00 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Andre,

Thanks again...I got good information from many people.  Now I need to get 
of the dime and decide.

Great List!

Clyde
98 M3/4


>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> > As far as the PS2s and the S-03s is the ride harsher with the PS2s?  Are
> > they louder or quieter than the S-03s?  The sale on the S-03s is fairly
> > significant so the PS2s would need to be better in the areas I just
> > mentioned as well as wet performance.
>
>You can't go wrong with either one.  The differences are a matter of
>personal preference more than real performance you might see in everyday
>driving.  Besides, neither tire will last very long, so you'll get to try
>the other one if you don't like the current one.
>
>--Andre
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:29:35 -0500
From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Also consider Michelin PS2 (outstanding wet and dry stick).

Toyo T1-s  solid performer at a slightly moderate price.  

depends on your preference.  F1s get great reveiws but are pricey.

Kumhos are not that great, but very cheap.  

Do you really value EVERY BIT OF your cornering stick? or would you rather 
spend your money elsewhere?

Marc Plante
E36 M3/4
Vienna, VA


----- Original Message -----
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UUC]  Tire purchase
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400

> 
> I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of 
> the lists opinions:
> 
> (max perf. category)
> Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> 
> Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> 
> Kumho ECSTA MX
> 
> lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are cheap)
> 
> FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most 
> Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more 
> attractive but I already have them and was thinking of being 
> adventurous.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Clyde
> 98 M3/4
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:14:40 -0400
From: Gerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The Toyo T1-S is giving way to the T1-R.  The T1-R is suppose to have beter wet 
and dry characteristics and much better wear.  The tire edges ie.(X_____X) have 
a moderately harder compound to reduce edge wear caused by camber related 
problems and/or enthusiastic driving opportunities.
Gerry















problems
> 
> From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/04/15 Fri PM 03:29:35 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> 
> Also consider Michelin PS2 (outstanding wet and dry stick).
> 
> Toyo T1-s  solid performer at a slightly moderate price.  
> 
> depends on your preference.  F1s get great reveiws but are pricey.
> 
> Kumhos are not that great, but very cheap.  
> 
> Do you really value EVERY BIT OF your cornering stick? or would you rather 
> spend your money elsewhere?
> 
> Marc Plante
> E36 M3/4
> Vienna, VA
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400
> 
> > 
> > I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of 
> > the lists opinions:
> > 
> > (max perf. category)
> > Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> > 
> > Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> > 
> > Kumho ECSTA MX
> > 
> > lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are cheap)
> > 
> > FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most 
> > Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more 
> > attractive but I already have them and was thinking of being 
> > adventurous.
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Clyde
> > 98 M3/4
> > 
> > 
> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> > 
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 


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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:55:34 -0500
From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I go back and forth between wanting total performance and being cheap.  It 
swings about every 1/2 hr.  Last time I bought tires I went to the dealer to 
buy PS2s after driving a student's M3 on the track. They were out of stock, so 
I went with Toyos since they were available and I've had good results with them 
in the past.  

The Toyos have very reliable wet and dry performance. Probably 90-95% of the 
Goodyears, and they tend to run about 160 a corner installed.  

If you don't drive a lot of miles a year (Less than 15k), I'd spring for the 
PS2s or F1s.  I budget for a set of ties a year, so the extra bit doesn't sting 
as much.


Marc
----- Original Message -----
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:25:23 -0400

> 
> 
> Marc,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> I have looked at the Toyo T1-s but I have heard very mixed results 
> and they are hard to find.
> 
> The Kumhos I have heard are very good intially (while the tread is 
> there) but they lose there performance the more they wear.  They 
> are a good prices and stick very well but I have also read that the 
> wet performance is good but not great.  I live in New England and 
> it rains a lot!
> 
> The PS2s are very good but I can get the tires I listed cheaper.  
> Do you think it is really worth it to pay much more for a little 
> better performance?
> 
> Clyde
> 
> > From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:29:35 -0500
> >
> > Also consider Michelin PS2 (outstanding wet and dry stick).
> >
> > Toyo T1-s  solid performer at a slightly moderate price.
> >
> > depends on your preference.  F1s get great reveiws but are pricey.
> >
> > Kumhos are not that great, but very cheap.
> >
> > Do you really value EVERY BIT OF your cornering stick? or would 
> > you rather spend your money elsewhere?
> >
> > Marc Plante
> > E36 M3/4
> > Vienna, VA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400
> >
> > >
> > > I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of
> > > the lists opinions:
> > >
> > > (max perf. category)
> > > Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> > >
> > > Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> > >
> > > Kumho ECSTA MX
> > >
> > > lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are 
> > > cheap)
> > >
> > > FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most
> > > Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more
> > > attractive but I already have them and was thinking of being
> > > adventurous.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Clyde
> > > 98 M3/4
> > >
> > >
> > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________________________
> > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> > >
> > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> >
> >
> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:36:35 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     It can be possible to go high performance _and be cheap.  Check EBay.
Its buyer beware with tires but there are bargains if you shop cautiously and 
can nail a bid in the last few seconds before the auction closes.  I just got a 
set of four nearly new Bridgestone RE750 on Motorsport forged wheels (same as 
LTW wheel w/out "BMW" on the face), the tires have less than 1/32 wear, rims 
were new with the tires.  Cost was less than the tires or wheels alone would 
have been.
Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
> I go back and forth between wanting total performance and being cheap.  It 
> swings about every 1/2 hr.  Last time I bought tires I went to the dealer to 
> buy PS2s after driving a student's M3 on the track. They were out of stock, 
> so I went with Toyos since they were available and I've had good results with 
> them in the past.  > The Toyos have very reliable wet and dry performance. 
> Probably 90-95% of the Goodyears, and they tend to run about 160 a corner 
> installed.  
> If you don't drive a lot of miles a year (Less than 15k), I'd spring for the 
> PS2s or F1s.  I budget for a set of ties a year, so the extra bit doesn't 
> sting as much.
> 
> 
> Marc




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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:25:23 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Marc,

Thanks for the feedback.

I have looked at the Toyo T1-s but I have heard very mixed results and they 
are hard to find.

The Kumhos I have heard are very good intially (while the tread is there) 
but they lose there performance the more they wear.  They are a good prices 
and stick very well but I have also read that the wet performance is good 
but not great.  I live in New England and it rains a lot!

The PS2s are very good but I can get the tires I listed cheaper.  Do you 
think it is really worth it to pay much more for a little better 
performance?

Clyde

>From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:29:35 -0500
>
>Also consider Michelin PS2 (outstanding wet and dry stick).
>
>Toyo T1-s  solid performer at a slightly moderate price.
>
>depends on your preference.  F1s get great reveiws but are pricey.
>
>Kumhos are not that great, but very cheap.
>
>Do you really value EVERY BIT OF your cornering stick? or would you rather 
>spend your money elsewhere?
>
>Marc Plante
>E36 M3/4
>Vienna, VA
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [UUC]  Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400
>
> >
> > I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of
> > the lists opinions:
> >
> > (max perf. category)
> > Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> >
> > Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> >
> > Kumho ECSTA MX
> >
> > lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are 
>cheap)
> >
> > FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most
> > Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more
> > attractive but I already have them and was thinking of being
> > adventurous.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Clyde
> > 98 M3/4
> >
> >
> > Search the 
>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> >
> >
> > 
>__________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW 
>CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:45:15 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


The Toyo's are hard to find dealers who sell them for a fair price 
(especially T1-s).  I do drive less than 15k a year and I am leaning toward 
the Goodyears.  I think the Tire rack is a excellent site for researching 
tires but even they don't sell Toyo's and I wonder why?

Thanks for you feedback.

Clyde
>From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:55:34 -0500
>
>I go back and forth between wanting total performance and being cheap.  It 
>swings about every 1/2 hr.  Last time I bought tires I went to the dealer 
>to buy PS2s after driving a student's M3 on the track. They were out of 
>stock, so I went with Toyos since they were available and I've had good 
>results with them in the past.
>
>The Toyos have very reliable wet and dry performance. Probably 90-95% of 
>the Goodyears, and they tend to run about 160 a corner installed.
>
>If you don't drive a lot of miles a year (Less than 15k), I'd spring for 
>the PS2s or F1s.  I budget for a set of ties a year, so the extra bit 
>doesn't sting as much.
>
>
>Marc
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:25:23 -0400
>
> >
> >
> > Marc,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> > I have looked at the Toyo T1-s but I have heard very mixed results
> > and they are hard to find.
> >
> > The Kumhos I have heard are very good intially (while the tread is
> > there) but they lose there performance the more they wear.  They
> > are a good prices and stick very well but I have also read that the
> > wet performance is good but not great.  I live in New England and
> > it rains a lot!
> >
> > The PS2s are very good but I can get the tires I listed cheaper.
> > Do you think it is really worth it to pay much more for a little
> > better performance?
> >
> > Clyde
> >
> > > From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:29:35 -0500
> > >
> > > Also consider Michelin PS2 (outstanding wet and dry stick).
> > >
> > > Toyo T1-s  solid performer at a slightly moderate price.
> > >
> > > depends on your preference.  F1s get great reveiws but are pricey.
> > >
> > > Kumhos are not that great, but very cheap.
> > >
> > > Do you really value EVERY BIT OF your cornering stick? or would
> > > you rather spend your money elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Marc Plante
> > > E36 M3/4
> > > Vienna, VA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [UUC]  Tire purchase
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:08:26 -0400
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am on th edge of buying new summer tires and what to get some of
> > > > the lists opinions:
> > > >
> > > > (max perf. category)
> > > > Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
> > > >
> > > > Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
> > > >
> > > > Kumho ECSTA MX
> > > >
> > > > lastly the Yokohama AVS ES100 (ultra high perf. category) (these are 
>cheap)
> > > >
> > > > FYI - Tire Rack is offering a $100 off a purchase of four for most
> > > > Bridgestone models.  This does make the Pole Positions look more
> > > > attractive but I already have them and was thinking of being
> > > > adventurous.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Clyde
> > > > 98 M3/4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Search the 
>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
>__________________________________________________________________________
> > > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW 
>CCA.
> > > >
> > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the 
>Ultimate
> > > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Search the 
>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > 
>__________________________________________________________________________
> > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW 
>CCA.
> > >
> > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> >
> >
> > Search the 
>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> >
> >
> > 
>__________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW 
>CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:48:40 -0700
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If you're in the West you can get the Toyos at Les Schwab. They
don't run $160 a corner, though, at least for T1-S. Last time
I paid $225; right now they're on sale for $200.

- Greg

m3 drvr wrote:
> 
> The Toyo's are hard to find dealers who sell them for a fair price 
> (especially T1-s).  I do drive less than 15k a year and I am leaning 
> toward the Goodyears.  I think the Tire rack is a excellent site for 
> researching tires but even they don't sell Toyo's and I wonder why?
> 
> Thanks for you feedback.
> 
> Clyde
> 

-- 
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

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