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Volume 3 : Issue 52 : "text" Format

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  Re: MORE - Awesome ruling by judge!
  Re: "Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos"
  Re: <OT> Dealing with Active Autowerks
  <FS> E36 Solid engine, trans, diff mounts, + spherical RTAB
  WTB  Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6
  Re: WTB  Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6
  Re: "Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos"
  Shipping & Handling Charges (was <OT> Dealing with Active Autowerks)

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:10:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Brett Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MORE - Awesome ruling by judge!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Remember the Nebraska Judge that ruled going 128 mph
is not necessarily
> 'Reckless' in and of itself? More good news, in this
vein!
> 
> 
> NOT DANGEROUS DRIVING: 21-YEAR-OLD DOING 150MPH IN
DAD'S PORSCHE
> By Richard Smith And Allison Martin 
> 
> But road safety campaigners blasted her decision.
The Royal Society for 
> the  Prevention of Accidents said: "If driving at
150mph isn't dangerous 
> driving we don't know what is." 
 
What a brainless statement!  Driving 40 MPH in a
school zone 3 minutes after school is out is far more
dangerous than 150 MPH in good open conditions with a
high performance vehicle.


Brett

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:41:33 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yeah, great.

Can we see the pics or not?

;-)

- Rob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "BMW
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: [UUC] "Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos"


>
> http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/6461863/detail.html
>
> Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos
> 'Danielle' Says She Did Not Undress
>
> POSTED: 9:26 am EST January 26, 2006
>
> A woman at the center of rumors she posed naked after hours at the North
> American International Auto Show at Cobo Hall said she did not undress.
>
> "I was never naked. I was never on top of the car," said the woman, who
was
> only identified as "Danielle."
>
> Rumors began circulating last week of a woman who posed nude atop the
Dodge
> Challenger concept car after employees let her inside, Local 4 reported.
> Rumors continue to circulate that photos of the woman were taken and
posted
> on the Internet. There were also reports that the woman may have been
> drugged before the incident occurred, according to the station's reports.
>
> Danielle said she was at the Auto Show, but was wearing "a mini-skirt, a
> sheer shirt, a sweater dress, heels."
>
> Danielle met several men who worked at the Auto Show while at the Anchor
Bar
> located near Cobo Hall, Local 4 reported. She said the men asked her if
she
> wanted to see the cars, so she went to Cobo Hall.
>
> The woman said she did see the Dodge Challenger concept car, but she only
> sat inside the vehicle and looked at the interior.
>
> "It was blown completely out of proportion after I started seeing it on
the
> news," said Danielle.
>
> Attorney Charlie Langton said, "It probably is a story just because when
you
> talk about nudity, you talk about the Auto Show, cars and sex, I guess, go
> together. But when you really boil it down to the real basics of it,
there's
> just really not much there."
>
> No legal action is planned, Local 4 reported. Danielle said she hopes the
> employees who let her into the show are not fired, the station reported.
>
> Danielle said she does not want the rumors to turn her into a modern-day
> Tawny Kitaen, who is infamous for posing on the hood of a car in a
> Whitesnake music video in the 1980s, Local 4 reported.
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:45:45 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <OT> Dealing with Active Autowerks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joe, 

I must say that this is the best basic description I have ever read of the 
normal fabrication methods of metal parts.  Yes, low-pressure casting would be 
the same as die casting.

My very first job at the tender age of 18 years and a couple of days was in a 
brass, bronze and aluminium foundry where we the rather ancient method of 
sandcasting.  Most of our parts were actually pretty good, but there was a fair 
bit of bad parts too.

Properly done, with care and the proper alloys at the proper temps, etc., and 
you can produce a very consistant and serviceable part.  It will require 
considerable machine work and finishing depending on its end use...the machine 
shop used to send us back the bits and shavings for us to remelt and use again.

I must add, not a very healthy palce to work and I left after 2 months and a 
case of "Mag Fever" from breathing in fumes from an overheated and poorly 
alloyed pot og magnesium bronze.

I like your decriptions very much.

David in Richmond, VA...

-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Jan 31, 2006 3:27 PM
>To: bmw list <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  <OT> Dealing with Active Autowerks
>
>From Maverick
>>
>>I have seen some sellers refer to the low pressure casting technique that is 
>>the likely production method used on these as "forging"...it is not the same 
>>as a true forging, but better than just atmosphere pressure gravity casting.
>>
>>David in Richmond, VA
>>
>
>Sounds like die casting...
>
>For those who don't know, the standard methods of making stuff amount to:
>
>Casting - Make a hole in the dirt in the shape you want, melt stuff, pour it
>in. About as much consistency and quality as making ice-cubes. Depends quite
>a bit on what you are pouring, pouring into, how you cool it, etc. Done
>well, you get a nice piece to work with, done poorly, you get a misshapen
>blob with bubbles and bugs inside.
>
>Die Casting - Make a negative mold of what you want, melt stuff, inject it
>into the mold under pressure. In metal it is die casting, in plastic it is
>injection molding, in food it is a butter mold. Like casting in that the
>quality depends on what you melt, etc, but the detail is much finer. You
>usually get finished parts that don't need much if any machining and the
>bugs and bubbles are largely eliminated by virtue of being converted to
>pinholes and incomplete castings.
>
>Forging - Take a lump and beat it to shape. Sometimes done hot (make the
>lump mushy first), sometimes done cold (make the final lump stronger).
>Almost like die casting done after the fact.
>
>Machining - Take a lump of something and remove everything that doesn't look
>like what you want. The lump usually comes from one of the above processes.
>In the case of die castings, you may not do much other than clean up a face
>or drill a hole or two. A regular casting or forging may need several 
>processes or virtually the entire thing machined. Consider a casting or a
>forging as a custom shaped lump that has little extra to remove.
>
>Fabrication - Take stock lumps and stick them together until you get what
>you want. Plate, pipe, sheet, and other stock shapes fastened together by
>welding (mold-less casting in place), soldering (another mold-less casting
>with massive inclusions), brazing (somewhere between soldering and welding),
>threaded fasteners (friction and tension), rivets (forging selected
>geometry), adhesives (friction and interatomic forces), etc.
>
>Measure with mics, mark with chalk, cut with an axe, pound to fit and paint
>to match...
>
>-- Joe
>
>--
>Joseph M. Krzeszewski                      Network Operations
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]                           Worcester Polytechnic Institute
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:45:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: <FS> E36 Solid engine, trans, diff mounts, + spherical RTAB
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gruppe/racers,

I have these VAC parts for sale, all brand new, priced as follows:

Solid engine & transmission mounts: $225.00
Solid differential mounts: $125.00

Spherical bearing rear trailing arm bushing: $240.00

All items + shipping from 48034.

-Carlos.
89 325i
98 M3

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:15:03 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: WTB  Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Notwithstanding the recent, dubious, vehicle on Ebay.

Finders fee available for any member of these lists that can find me a 
complete <wrecked> car, preferably hit anywhere but the front.


Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
(440) 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)

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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:34:53 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WTB  Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Stand in line, Koala boy.  On second thought, why do that when a Chevy V-8 
is available <grin>.
Gary Derian

> Notwithstanding the recent, dubious, vehicle on Ebay.
>
> Finders fee available for any member of these lists that can find me a
> complete <wrecked> car, preferably hit anywhere but the front.
>
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS-Koala Motorsport


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Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:50:33 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 1/31/06 5:05 PM, "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/6461863/detail.html
> 
> Woman Dispels Rumors Of Naked Auto Show Photos
> 'Danielle' Says She Did Not Undress

Well that's disappointing!

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
77 MGB     - Original owner, need to sell
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD!




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Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:02:39 -0800
From: "Curtis A. Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Shipping & Handling Charges (was <OT> Dealing with Active Autowerks)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is not an opinion about the talking thermostat cover. 
I don't know jack about it, but AA's website description of 
the part is obviously a marketing statement rather than an 
engineering one.

It's easy to underestimate the true cost of shipping & 
handling, especially for an occasional shipper.  Here's a 
quick estimate for the thermostat housing, assuming a 
12x10x4 inch box weighing 4 pounds insured for $40 and 
shipped from AA to the West Coast via UPS or FedEx ground to 
a business address:

  $ 6.49 FedEx
   11.16 UPS

and to a residential address:

  $ 8.31 FedEx
   12.98 UPS

Yes, it really costs a couple dollars more to ship to a 
residential address.

Those numbers are minimums.  Add $2 to $10 to have the 
carrier pick up the package at AA, and add a dollar or so if 
the shipment is arranged by phone instead of on the web. 
UPS/FedEx add a 'delivery address surcharge' for some 
addresses, typically in less frequently visited and more 
remote residential areas.

So shipping charges paid by the shipper can easily be 
$12-15, not including any special delivery options or faster 
shipping methods.  There are cheaper shipping methods (e.g. 
USPS), but they have disadvantages that offset the lower fees.

Handling charges might include the cost of a box ($1-2), 
packing material, forms and labels, and labor.

Many web business charge much less for 'S&H'.  Their costs 
are the same; they are merely shifting the true charges from 
S&H to the product price.  I think keeping the S&H charges 
separate as a 'S&H' fee is more transparent.

Curt Ingraham, ships a few radiators
Oakland, CA

Kevin wrote:
> Their thermostat cover claims to be forged (the other sources I believe are
> cast) and the flanged part is machined flat, so I went with that one. The
> order acknowledgment said $12 for shipping but they called because they
> wouldn't ship it to me here at work. That's when they quoted $15 for
> shipping.

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