The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 147 : "text" Format

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  rear panel removal
  Re: rear panel removal
  Re: tire size question
  Re: <E36> coupe window glides
  <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)
  Re: <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)
  Re: <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:39:23 -0500
From: "Bill Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: rear panel removal
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I need to remove the right rear inner panel to replace the seat belt 
retractor mechanism--it won't reel in anymore.  How is this piece held in? 
I am guessing some plastic rivits that are to be popped out, but how do I 
get them out without damaging them or the panel?
 Bill M. 


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Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:35:25 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rear panel removal
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Resending due to greylisting error (?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:44 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [UUC] rear panel removal

Bill M wrote:

>I need to remove the right rear inner panel to replace the seat belt
retractor mechanism--it won't reel in anymore.  How is this piece held in?
I am guessing some plastic rivits that are to be popped out, but how do I
get them out without damaging them or the panel?

==============

Well, Bill, it might help to tell us the model.  :-)

More to the point, I wrote this previously:


Carey wrote:

>The passenger seat belt in my '99 M3 is locked about 6-12 inches from
full retraction.  It won't retract further and locks when I try to pull it
out to use.

>Is there anything I can do to fix it myself or am I stuck going to the
dealer.

===================

A fellow E39 member wrote in an email to me:

>Dear Dennis:

Hi. I am a fellow member of the e39 yahoo group and saw your post on the
rear seatbelt not retracting. 
I've had the same thing happen and wonder if you could tell me how it was
resolved. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

======================

For those of you that don't recall, on my wife's E39, I had not one but TWO
seat belts in the rear fail when I was installing car seats. Both failed to
retract, leaving the belt hanging, limp. The dealer fixed the first under
warranty. The second occurred JUST AFTER he warranty period, and no help
whatsoever from either the dealer or BMW NA. 

So, thanks to the advice of the UUC and E39 lists, I decided to tackle this
task myself, to replace the broken retractor with a new one.

So I slowly and methodically took apart the interior to get a the rear
retractor. When I had removed the trim, I spotted the problem - the belt had
TWISTED BACK ON ITSELF as it retracted, and the fold in the belt jammed in
the retractor! You can't see it with the trim on, NOR can you try to fix it.
With the trim off, I just unfolded the belt, and the retractor is working as
new. A few more minutes to put everything back, and voila! Happy as a clam.

Though I must wonder if the same thing had happened to the original
retractor, on the other side. The repair order from the dealership said they
replaced everything, so maybe BMW NA got stuck with the bill when all it
would have taken was to untangle the belt. But, what do I care? It's not as
if BMW NA has earned any sympathy from me. 

So now, when releasing the belt when removing the seat, I take some extra
care to make sure the belt doesn't fold as it retracts.

Carey, if you can find instructions on how to remove the trim to get to the
retractor, it could be as simple as this.  Hope this helps!

vty,

--Dennis


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Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:48:50 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: tire size question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If Howard's car is like all the other BMWs I've seen, his speedo was
already off by at least that much before changing tire sizes.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:57:37 -0700
>From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Howard Kohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: tire size question
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Howard,
>
>According to this calculator: http://www.miata.net/garage/
>tirecalc.html  Your speedo will be 3.8% too slow.  When your speedo
>reads 60mph, you're actually traveling 62.3mph.  Hope this helps.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mark Gold
>Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:54:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> coupe window glides
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No expert here, but I believe some use Silglide, a silicone based grease from 
NAPA.  You have to use something that won't attack the plastic bits.

David in Richmond, VA

-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: May 18, 2006 2:44 PM
>To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
>Subject: [UUC]  <E36> coupe window glides
>
>Speakin' of which, I posted about a week ago but no
>one responded so I'll try again.
>
>I'm replacing these plastic window glides in
>my passenger door soon.  Only one was
>broken, but I figured I'd change all four while I'm in
>there.  Wondering what type of grease I should use, as
>the old stuff is pretty caked and stiff now, I want to
>clean it out and regrease everything.  Is lithium
>grease a good choice or perhaps a synthetic Mobil 1
>grease?
>
>Thanks,
>Brian
>95 M3
>
>--- KMS- Brett Anderson wrote:
>
>> Part number 51 32 1 938 884, 2 per window.
>> 
>> About $4 each.
>> 
>> Brett Anderson
>> KMS
>
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:21:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I run 235/40-17 (Pilot Sports) on my '96 E36 Coupe (these are a bit smaller
than were the factory 16" skins).  If you trust those annoying radar road-side
signs that tell you your speed, my speedo reads about 5-6mph high (I think it
read a tad high with the stock taars/wheels too).

My wife's bone-stock X5 speedo reads 4mph high using the same measure.

Makes it easier for me to think I drive fast :))

- k

--- original message ---

From: "Howard Kohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tire size question

I have 235/40-17 tires on my 1997 328i with standard (not lowered)
suspension, and apparantly plenty of room in the wheelwells.    Will
235/45-17 tires also fit this vehicle?




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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:02:41 -0700
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Use a cheap handheld GPS.  They read to 0.1 mph or better.
See also <http://ejelta.com/tiresize> for such comparisons.



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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:13:37 -0400
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <misc> Speedo Error (was: tire size question)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Actually, the easiest way to *know* your speedo error is not to trust that the 
local law enforcement set up the units correctly (half the time they read high, 
half the time they are accurate here in Morristown, NJ... and I'm guessing its 
the same rig in different places in town, with me in the same car...)

Anyway, to test your speedo, find a road (like an interstate) with mile-markers 
on the side... 

get the car going to a steady 60mph (where legal, of course) and hold it there 
(the hardest thing to do here)...

follow the mile-markers for 1 mi.  it *should* take 60 sec...

or 1/2 mi for 30 sec... (you get the idea)...

you can also check out the accuracy of the odo too doing this...

(BTW, if the speedo is off, but odo is accurate, changing tire size to make the 
speedo right will mess with the odo...)

For the Porsche 944 series, there was an aftermarket adapter to correct the 
speedo...

HTH.

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy" 



> I run 235/40-17 (Pilot Sports) on my '96 E36 Coupe (these are a bit smaller 
> than were the factory 16" skins).  If you trust those annoying radar 
> road-side signs that tell you your speed, my speedo reads about 5-6mph high 
> (I think it read a tad high with the stock taars/wheels too).
> 
> My wife's bone-stock X5 speedo reads 4mph high using the same measure.
> 
> Makes it easier for me to think I drive fast :))
> 
> - k
> 


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