The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 562 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Update: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Re: high mounted center brake light question E30 transmission issue Re: high mounted center brake light question Re: high mounted center brake light question Re: high mounted center brake light question
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:59:38 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whoa, Nelly! Glad you got thru that ordeal unscathed. Nothing like a little "Unintended Accelleration" to ruin your day. Might give the local dealer a call and read your VIN to them, check to see if they have you listed as owner in case there are other recalls they should make you aware of, and to check if they have performed prior recall work to the vehicle. They should have access to a BMW database and know what has been done, by VIN. Ask them to check all Technical Service Bulletins on your VIN. My friend had a similar fright with her Riviera, if you set the cruise control on, it took all control of the throttle and went to WFO, no ifs, ands or buts. Brake pedal would Not stop it, and that bad boy had a monster motor with Front Wheel Drive, so there wasn't a prayer that you could stop the beast with the brakes anyway, they were quite inadequate. Had to find the off switch or kill the engine. Whew! I tried it once, and then called the dealer- they naturally said it wasn't a problem -- On Whose Planet? Stay safe out there. Andy ***E28 tail light and brake light upgrades -- ask me how!*** (I'm SURE you know why) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FYI to E36, E34 drivers: I was driving my '94 E34 wagon the other night, > sensed > that I was no longer in control of the throttle. Sure enough, let off > throttle > and car kept going at about 50 MPH. Cruise Control was off, turned it to off > just to be sure. Controlled with brake and gears, pulled over, shifted to > Neutral and engine was about to overrev, as I expected it would. Shut down, > found broken cruise control plastic bushing. The outer cable housing had > emerged from the assembly (by action of the accelerator cable) and had jammed > the throttle open! A bit of googling unearthed NHTSA Campaign ID No > 97V131000- a > recall that has not been performed on my car (yet!) I'm glad I was driving > and > not my wife or children- this is a dangerous condition and I recommend you > all > check your throttle cables. > Jay Kenty > '94 E34 525iTA > '01 E39 525i > '03 525 525iA > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:07:06 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't call the dealer to check your address info. Doesn't matter if the dealer has you listed as owner, that info does not make it back to BMW NA unless they do warranty work on the car. Call BMW NA customer service directly. Brett Anderson KMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Whoa, Nelly! Glad you got thru that ordeal unscathed. Nothing like a little > "Unintended Accelleration" to ruin your day. > > Might give the local dealer a call and read your VIN to them, check to see if > they have you listed as owner in case there are other recalls they should > make you > aware of, and to check if they have performed prior recall work to the > vehicle. > They should have access to a BMW database and know what has been done, > by VIN. Ask them to check all Technical Service Bulletins on your VIN. > > My friend had a similar fright with her Riviera, if you set the cruise > control on, > it took all control of the throttle and went to WFO, no ifs, ands or buts. > Brake pedal > would Not stop it, and that bad boy had a monster motor with Front Wheel > Drive, > so there wasn't a prayer that you could stop the beast with the brakes > anyway, > they were quite inadequate. Had to find the off switch or kill the engine. > Whew! > > I tried it once, and then called the dealer- they naturally said it wasn't a > problem -- > On Whose Planet? > > Stay safe out there. > > Andy > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:44 -0700 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You want these. http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc2.jpg http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc1.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage > Don't call the dealer to check your address info. Doesn't matter if the > dealer has you listed as owner, that info does not make it back to BMW NA > unless they do warranty work on the car. > > Call BMW NA customer service directly. > > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Whoa, Nelly! Glad you got thru that ordeal unscathed. Nothing like a >> little "Unintended Accelleration" to ruin your day. >> >> Might give the local dealer a call and read your VIN to them, check to >> see if they have you listed as owner in case there are other recalls they >> should make you aware of, and to check if they have performed prior >> recall work to the vehicle. >> They should have access to a BMW database and know what has been done, by >> VIN. Ask them to check all Technical Service Bulletins on your VIN. >> >> My friend had a similar fright with her Riviera, if you set the cruise >> control on, it took all control of the throttle and went to WFO, no ifs, >> ands or buts. Brake pedal would Not stop it, and that bad boy had a >> monster motor with Front Wheel Drive, >> so there wasn't a prayer that you could stop the beast with the brakes >> anyway, they were quite inadequate. Had to find the off switch or kill >> the engine. Whew! >> >> I tried it once, and then called the dealer- they naturally said it >> wasn't a problem -- >> On Whose Planet? >> >> Stay safe out there. >> >> Andy >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:59:10 -0400 From: Jay Kenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: JS Nord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Update: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the photos, JS- they will help me verify that I get the right parts. Post script on recall status- my dealer had checked all my recalls in the past and assured me they were all done. He checked this one again today, and the record shows it was done by a (different, of course) local dealer in 2002. I bet it was done, but after looking at these pictures I'd also bet that the clips weren't installed correctly and they fell off within a few days... My current dealer is a good one, and I expect them to do something to satisfy me. We'll see. Again, folks- better go out and make sure you have these clips on your throttle cables. Jay Kenty '94 525iTA RI, USA JS Nord wrote: > You want these. > > http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc2.jpg > > http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc1.jpg > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage > > >> Don't call the dealer to check your address info. Doesn't matter if >> the dealer has you listed as owner, that info does not make it back >> to BMW NA unless they do warranty work on the car. >> >> Call BMW NA customer service directly. >> >> >> Brett Anderson >> KMS >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Whoa, Nelly! Glad you got thru that ordeal unscathed. Nothing like a >>> little "Unintended Accelleration" to ruin your day. >>> >>> Might give the local dealer a call and read your VIN to them, check >>> to see if they have you listed as owner in case there are other >>> recalls they should make you aware of, and to check if they have >>> performed prior recall work to the vehicle. >>> They should have access to a BMW database and know what has been >>> done, by VIN. Ask them to check all Technical Service Bulletins on >>> your VIN. >>> >>> My friend had a similar fright with her Riviera, if you set the >>> cruise control on, it took all control of the throttle and went to >>> WFO, no ifs, ands or buts. Brake pedal would Not stop it, and that >>> bad boy had a monster motor with Front Wheel Drive, >>> so there wasn't a prayer that you could stop the beast with the >>> brakes anyway, they were quite inadequate. Had to find the off >>> switch or kill the engine. Whew! >>> >>> I tried it once, and then called the dealer- they naturally said it >>> wasn't a problem -- On Whose Planet? >>> >>> Stay safe out there. >>> >>> Andy >>> >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW >> CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:40:57 +0000 (UTC) From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this is the same problem I had with my 1993 E36 325i, you don't need to initiate cruise control to have a problem. I finished an AutoX run and found myself in the stop box with my throttle wide open (Manual transmission, I had the clutch in). frayed cruise control cable. Brett replaced it for me at a track event...the first of several times he's saved my a%#, and I live in VA...Thanks again Brett. also had a door latch fail in the middle of a school. Really glad I had B pillars and webbing from Brett to finish the school. Marc Plante E36 M3/4 80k E36 325i, (sold @ 230k) Vienna, VA ----Original Message---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sep 4, 2007 15:01 To: <[email protected]> Subj: Re: [UUC] Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage You want these. http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc2.jpg http://www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/tc1.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage > Don't call the dealer to check your address info. Doesn't matter if the > dealer has you listed as owner, that info does not make it back to BMW NA > unless they do warranty work on the car. > > Call BMW NA customer service directly. > > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Whoa, Nelly! Glad you got thru that ordeal unscathed. Nothing like a >> little "Unintended Accelleration" to ruin your day. >> >> Might give the local dealer a call and read your VIN to them, check to >> see if they have you listed as owner in case there are other recalls they >> should make you aware of, and to check if they have performed prior >> recall work to the vehicle. >> They should have access to a BMW database and know what has been done, by >> VIN. Ask them to check all Technical Service Bulletins on your VIN. >> >> My friend had a similar fright with her Riviera, if you set the cruise >> control on, it took all control of the throttle and went to WFO, no ifs, >> ands or buts. Brake pedal would Not stop it, and that bad boy had a >> monster motor with Front Wheel Drive, >> so there wasn't a prayer that you could stop the beast with the brakes >> anyway, they were quite inadequate. Had to find the off switch or kill >> the engine. Whew! >> >> I tried it once, and then called the dealer- they naturally said it >> wasn't a problem -- >> On Whose Planet? >> >> Stay safe out there. >> >> Andy >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive. com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:16:46 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 9/4/07 4:56 PM, "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would be fine if you got a set of Black Hole Industries' new Nega-Spacers to > pull the wheels in. Yeah, and don't forget the involuted lug bolts to go with those bad boys! Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:29:13 -0500 From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They screw straight into the Agony-drive spiro discombobulator dont they ?? Beepee ..in warp-drive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] E46M3 wheels For Sale > on 9/4/07 4:56 PM, "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Would be fine if you got a set of Black Hole Industries' new Nega-Spacers >> to >> pull the wheels in. > > Yeah, and don't forget the involuted lug bolts to go with those bad boys! > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:15:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Kirk Lachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW UUC Digest <[email protected]> Cc: Rob Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" wrote: >Would be fine if you got a set of Black Hole Industries' new Nega-Spacers to >pull the wheels in. Actually, negative offset spacers have been around a long time in the autocross community. ;-) I think Andy Hollis invented them, but that was way back in time and the gray cells have lost the specifics. You can, however, run E46M3 front wheels on all 4 corners of an E36M3, if you desire (and run E46M3 rears on all 4 corners of an E46 M3). I'm just saying you can, not sure why you'd want to though unless you have a pretty adjustable suspension on the E46M3. Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 club race car in pieces. Anyone want to put it back together? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:25:25 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E46M3 wheels For Sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It was "Huck 'n' Chuck Enterprises" (AKA Bryon Short and Charlie Davis). About 10 or 12 years ago. Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Lachman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Actually, negative offset spacers have been around a long time in the > autocross community. ;-) I think Andy Hollis invented them, but that was > way back in time and the gray cells have lost the specifics. > > Cheers, > > Kirk Lachman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:21:16 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unless there is a state law that requires a third brake light, it doesn't matter if there was a federal law in effect at the time. Federal safety standards only apply to cars as built. After that, its up to the states. You can remove your airbag or mount knives on your dash if you want. Yes? Gary Derian > If they were not REQUIRED until after the truck in question was > produced (based on the build date on the VIN plate) then it should not > matter if the truck in question has the light or not - if should not > be required to be present if it came from the factory with a CHMSL. > > Right? > > Dennis > > On 9/4/07, Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Dave, >> >> Thanks, but I had that. >> >> I need to know when they actually went into production, not by when they >> were required. >> >> Ed >> >> >> David Thomas wrote: >> > On Monday 03 September 2007 8:48:50 pm Ed MacVaugh wrote: >> >> Where can I find out when pickup trucks started being equipped with >> >> center brake lights? Domestic cars were 1986, imported cars in 1987. >> > >> > Light trucks and vans were required to have them starting in 1994. >> > >> > Dave >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:26:10 -0400 From: Kevin Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: E30 transmission issue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm having a persistent leaking problem from my trans input shaft (5-speed) The patient's stats: '90 325i 57K on motor, 200k+ on chassis As of January, brand new DS, flex disc Quaiffe 4.10 265/45-16 Kumho V710s on 16x9 Borbets Poly motor and trans mounts 8lb flywheel heavy springs (600/500 fr/rear), 25/19 fr/rear sways, koni DAs on all corners The motor came out of an auto that was wrecked after I broke the number 3 intake rocker arm at an autox (cheaper than rebuilding the head). The motor is tight and doesn't leak from the rear main seal. New pilot bearing was installed and the original 200K manual was mated to the motor. Earlier in the year, before switching to the 265s (was on 225/50-15s), I noticed a slight seeping from the trans. After switching, the input shaft seal blew. Due to time constraints, I took it to a trusted mechanic who replaced the front seal and put it back together. 8 days and 2 autoxes later, it was leaking worse than before. Took it back to same mechanic--diagnosis: bad trans. Found a used, supposedly 102K mile trans. All seals were replaced and the trans was installed. 1 event (4 54 second runs) later, and the new trans is leaking. I think the mechanic is missing something, but I don't know what. Or is it just that a used trans is too much of a gamble and it's time to spring for a new/reman unit to just get this over with? I do have plans to go to the 275/35-15s next year, and will be switching to a built 3.73 LSD, non-quaiffe (I hate the fact that the quaiffe goes open if the inside wheel bounces off the ground, and wonder if this might be a contributing factor--much stronger motor, open diff, rapid motor accell/decel when wheel lifts) Thanks Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:17:51 -0700 From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 8:06:30 am Ed MacVaugh wrote: > Dave, > > Thanks, but I had that. > > I need to know when they actually went into production, not by when they > were required. > > Ed Hmmm. Not real sure what your after then. The truck you mentioned is a 87 so it certainly would not be required to have a third brake light. Are you asking when Ford started to install them in trucks? I would bet just prior to 1994 ;-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:40:42 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave, I thought I was pretty clear in my request, and seeing how you quoted it below, I guess it made it out on the wire. :-) I actually know the answer now, it was September 4, 1992, but I am waiting to see at which assembly plant that occurred. I can't go into court and say, "Your Honor, it was clearly later than this truck, which was a 1987". I can however, say, "Your honor, this truck was manufactured February 12th 1987 in Ontario California, and the first truck assembled with a high mounted stop light in the Ontario Assembly Plant was September 7th, 1992 and here is the documentation in the form of certified business records from the Ford Motor Company." Please note that I don't know what plants assembled Ranger p/u trucks, nor what the work schedule was in the late 80s or early 90s, or even if Ford assembles anything in Ontario, California. This was simply an example. Ed David Thomas wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 8:06:30 am Ed MacVaugh wrote: >> Dave, >> >> Thanks, but I had that. >> >> I need to know when they actually went into production, not by when they >> were required. >> >> Ed > > Hmmm. Not real sure what your after then. The truck you mentioned is a 87 so > it certainly would not be required to have a third brake light. Are you > asking when Ford started to install them in trucks? I would bet just prior to > 1994 ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:07:18 -0700 From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 6:40:42 pm Ed MacVaugh wrote: > I can't go into court and say, "Your Honor, it was clearly later than > this truck, which was a 1987". Yea, you can, that should be more than enough info. A judge is probably not going to be interested in a long history of third brake lights when 'this is a pre-1994 light truck' is all he/she wants to hear. If the truck was manufactured late in 1993 I could see needing the details but since it was produced 7 years before a third light was mandated I am pretty sure that is all the info you would need. BTW: Where is this at anyway? Around here (CA) it would be a fix-it ticket that any LEO could sign off on and would be no trouble to take care of. Dave ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
