The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 452 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Re: E36 rims again Re: E36 rims again Re: E36 rims again '99 323 oil Re: '99 323 oil Re: '99 323 oil Re: '99 323 oil Re: Aftermarket Catalyst <e39> Exhaust question Re: <e39> Exhaust question Re: FW: F1 from the pits (2 of 2)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:51:09 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wasn't sure if the three points of the aiming screws were the same or not. I have seen other "non e30" ellipsoids posted on ebay and wondered the same. Thanks, 1st -----Original Message----- From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Fuerst Chris; 'UUC Digest' Subject: RE: [UUC] E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory No. At least not without a lot of work. E30s have an easy headlight upgrade, E34/E32 do not. Even so, a 1st generation HID isn't exactly state of the art these days. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:23:43 -0500 From: "John Bunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I wasn't sure if the three points of the aiming screws were the same or > not. > I have seen other "non e30" ellipsoids posted on ebay and wondered the > same. I believe the light bulb/reflector assemblies are the same, it's just the bracket that holds them and attaches to the car that is different. Most of the individual parts for ellipsoids (even Euro) can be ordered from the dealer. I bought a set of euro E30 ellipsoids on ebay - not the bargain I thought they would be, as I ended up rebuilding the rusty crusty adjusters. They ended up cheaper than new Hellas, but not by much by the time I was done. But you can probably still order the E30 brackets. You could very likely confirm that the bulb/reflector pieces are the same with some clever searching on realoem.com John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:33:00 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have the ellips in one of my e30's. The other has sealed beams. I "rebuilt" the adjustment screws using SS washers and nuts. Need to use a 10mm wrench to adjust them but I've only done it once since the repair. It just seemed like another option for the e30 crowd and you wouldn't be ruining the integral essence of an e32 part as someone mentioned off-list if you held onto the brackets. If I had my way I'd get the Cibie lights. I just never drive at night that often to warrant the expense. Of course they'd also cost as much as the car. 1st -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bunda Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:24 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] E32/E34 Xenon headlights - Factory >I wasn't sure if the three points of the aiming screws were the same or >not. > I have seen other "non e30" ellipsoids posted on ebay and wondered the >same. I believe the light bulb/reflector assemblies are the same, it's just the bracket that holds them and attaches to the car that is different. Most of the individual parts for ellipsoids (even Euro) can be ordered from the dealer. I bought a set of euro E30 ellipsoids on ebay - not the bargain I thought they would be, as I ended up rebuilding the rusty crusty adjusters. They ended up cheaper than new Hellas, but not by much by the time I was done. But you can probably still order the E30 brackets. You could very likely confirm that the bulb/reflector pieces are the same with some clever searching on realoem.com John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:28:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 rims again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bead blasting does not leave the 'raw' aluminum finish alone either! Therefore, don't expect to clear-coat the aluminum and get a factory look. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- >From: John Borella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 19, 2007 8:01 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 rims again > >Beadblasting isn't going to tear up the surface of your alloy rims. It will >remove the corrosion & leave a nice surface for a couple coats of epoxy >primer to adhere to. > >John B > > >>From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>My fear of beadblasting, we have one here at werk, was that the >>clearcoat areas >>would protect the AL and the beads would dig in real bad into the soft >>AL. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office >Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:19:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 rims again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am listening to this as I have some none BMW raw aluminum forged rims that look like crap and i am deciding to either polish again...argh, or possibly paint. They are oxidized pretty bad, but not beyond a polish out, but I am not sure I want to keep polishing forever. David -----Original Message----- >From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 19, 2007 12:28 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 rims again > >Bead blasting does not leave the 'raw' aluminum finish alone either! >Therefore, don't expect to clear-coat the aluminum and get a factory look. >Cheers, >Chet Dawes > >-----Original Message----- >>From: John Borella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Apr 19, 2007 8:01 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 rims again >> >>Beadblasting isn't going to tear up the surface of your alloy rims. It will >>remove the corrosion & leave a nice surface for a couple coats of epoxy >>primer to adhere to. >> >>John B >> >> >>>From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>My fear of beadblasting, we have one here at werk, was that the >>>clearcoat areas >>>would protect the AL and the beads would dig in real bad into the soft >>>AL. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office >>Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ >> >>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________________ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 rims again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I used a product called Nyalic on some (raw) polished MB aluminum valve covers - they looked perfect after 2 years - usually wouldn't last but a few months prior to this coating. Read more about it here www.nyalic.com I bought it from eastwood in the past but I don't see it on their list now. Phil Davis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:16:58 -0600 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: '99 323 oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Colleague purchased a '99 323 and had initial oil change done by reputable indie. He wants to take good care of the car but is not a fanatic about it. Given the cost of the last change using BMW's special oil, he's looking for a less expensive alternative. Does this engine require a special oil? I'm only familiar with the M20 and M50. Aside from the fact that quick change places are not always reliable, will they have the correct oil? Just looking for some general guidance. TIA. Clarence West Bend, WI ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:55:51 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: '99 323 oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:16 AM 4/19/2007, Clarence wrote: BMW specifies a synthetic meeting 'Long-Life 98' or LL-98 specs in that car (a M52TUb25). BMW dealer oil is actually one of the cheaper options, as I've seen it for $4 or less as opposed to ~$6 for Mobil1/Valvoline/etc. synthetics that meet LL-98. Not going into Oil Religion here. Just presenting the facts as specified by BMW. >Colleague purchased a '99 323 and had initial oil change done by >reputable indie. He wants to take good care of the car but is not a >fanatic about it. Given the cost of the last change using BMW's >special oil, he's looking for a less expensive alternative. > >Does this engine require a special oil? I'm only familiar with the >M20 and M50. Aside from the fact that quick change places are not >always reliable, will they have the correct oil? > >Just looking for some general guidance. > >TIA. > >Clarence >West Bend, WI >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:09:20 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Clarence'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: '99 323 oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For the higher performance engines, the recommendations I have some across include: Mobil 1 5w30, 10w30 Castrol 5w30, 10w30 BMW Synthetic 5w30 Motul 5w40 Red Line is probably more than he would want to pay for basic maintenance. Not sure if this would apply to the 323 but maybe offers some guidance. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clarence Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:17 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: [UUC] '99 323 oil Colleague purchased a '99 323 and had initial oil change done by reputable indie. He wants to take good care of the car but is not a fanatic about it. Given the cost of the last change using BMW's special oil, he's looking for a less expensive alternative. Does this engine require a special oil? I'm only familiar with the M20 and M50. Aside from the fact that quick change places are not always reliable, will they have the correct oil? Just looking for some general guidance. TIA. Clarence West Bend, WI Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: '99 323 oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Best way to save is do it yourself, best price I have seen is Castrol Synthetic at Wallyworld in the 5 qt jug. Buy good filters. Phil Davis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:45:35 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Aftermarket Catalyst Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This whole replacement catalyst thing is interesting. New BMW cats are very expensive. Heavy, too. Third party drop-ins (sometimes more, sometimes less...) like DEC aren't as costly, but still not pocket change. A couple of friends of mine recently recently made a custom cat section system for a street-driven E36 325i track car. The single canister high flow catalyst cost about $60 (yes, not a typo), and weighs only 4 lbs. It's rated for use on up to a 4.6 litre V8, so we figured that the 325 is hardly going to overstress it. In this case custom Y-pipes were used before and after the cat in order to adapt the single cat to the existing twin pipe setup, and of course the whole thing had to be welded together. But even if twin cats had been used that would barely have added much cost to the project. It's an OBD-I car with a single pre-cat O2 sensor, which is retained. We don't have emissions inspections in Indiana, but there's no reason to suppose that it wouldn't pass if we did. The end result works fine, may or may not have reduced exhaust restriction significantly, but definitely saved a whole bunch of weight and didn't cost an arm and a leg. Seems to me that there's a world of opportunity here for anyone willing to shop around for parts and get some welding done. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:27:48 -0400 From: "Cledus Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <e39> Exhaust question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe, Buddy who bought an e39 525i was poking around teh underside and wondered why the silencer part of the rear exhaust 'Y's out as if it were going to be a dual exhaust, but is actually a single exhaust. I was thinking it is a dual for larger motors and there is parts sharing between the different engines? See hier: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DT43&mospid=47584&btnr=18_0441&hg=18&fg=20 uu curly: http://uucurl.com/x.php?p=2319 He was thinking of a more free flowing exhaust though I am trying to tell him that factory is more than adequate. Thoughts? Ideas? Wiseass comments from Smiller? TIA, Jim Laing Evo Clown -- I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence - Ayrton Senna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:29:32 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cledus Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: <e39> Exhaust question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Helmholtz principle. It's somewhat explained here. http://myfwc.com/boating/airboat/Section3.pdf Brett Anderson KMS Cledus Snow wrote: > Gruppe, > > Buddy who bought an e39 525i was poking around teh underside and > wondered why the silencer part of the rear exhaust 'Y's out as if it > were going to be a dual exhaust, but is actually a single exhaust. I > was thinking it is a dual for larger motors and there is parts sharing > between the different engines? > See hier: > http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DT43&mospid=47584&btnr=18_0441&hg=18&fg=20 > > > uu curly: > http://uucurl.com/x.php?p=2319 > He was thinking of a more free flowing exhaust though I am trying to > tell him that factory is more than adequate. > > Thoughts? Ideas? Wiseass comments from Smiller? > > TIA, > Jim Laing ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:57:43 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FW: F1 from the pits (2 of 2) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OMG dude. That is nuts. I am jealous. I'll look for your tight jumpsuit thru binocs as I walk around the event! Thanks for the detailed story! Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "BMW List" <[email protected]> Cc: "'Rick Lindsay'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: [UUC] FW: F1 from the pits (2 of 2) > [continued] > > Saturday F1 qualifying: Every year the qualifying rules change. Now that > we > have essentially three qualifying sessions rolled into one master session, > the cars go into parc firme right after their hot runs. For this part of > the game the marshals help the drivers get their cars into the > scrutineering > station. > > The FIA representative directs the drivers into the station, usually the > first garage after pit-in. The scrutineers steer the cars and we the pit > marshals, push the cars up onto the scales. As these cars don't weigh > anything, the issue is more one of keeping out of the way than it is work. > This is where that 'don't push on the wing' and 'watch your toes when the > car comes back out' thing comes into play. We stand about a meter behind > the car with our hands up verifying that we are not touching the car. > Once > weighed and measured the scrutineers roll the car back to us. > > When the car comes out, it usually goes into parc firme with the team > engineers pushing. The FIA oversees all of this process. Is it fun? Oh > yea. > The first few cars are awesome. Imagine pushing a RUNNING F1 car from the > rear, blazing hot exhaust in your face and waiting for that 'pop' when the > ignition is cut and the final charge of fuel explodes in the exhaust. > BTW, > everything on an F1 car is VERY hot. You can even feel the radiant heat > from the brakes through the jumpsuit. They are also a little loud too > especially when the exhaust is less than a meter away!!! Yes, Saturday is > much more fun that Friday. > > Sunday morning: Race day starts a little later and is more relaxed. You > would think it to be the other way around but for us, this is the easy > day. > We muster about an hour later and hope that we remembered to bring cloths > to > change in to after returning our jumpsuits. Every year, someone forgets > and > they get teased about walking home in their underwear. Of course, they > get > a break to go get cloths but it is a PITA if you are staying a half-hour's > walk away! > > Sunday brings more races from the support series with all the same > procedures followed. Around noon we all meet with Charley Whiting to get > our pre-race briefing. This is an opportunity for Charley to thank the > marshals, who are all volunteers, and to tell us of any process changes. > From there, we grab a quick lunch setting in garage 1 sometimes with F1 > cars > all around us. > > The race: As race time approaches we get really busy. The Paddock Club > tours the pits for autographs, etc., while we try to keep them out of > harm's > way; Same with the photographers. They will go ANYWHERE for that perfect > shot. Near the end of the PC pit walk the marshals gather down at the > start/finish like to form a protective line to protect the drivers. Of > course, we have VERY large state policemen there to assist us. > > That's the time when the F1 drivers come out for the parade lap. The > drivers from the lesser teams interact with the crowd while the > big-money-drivers just ignore them. Once the parade is rolling, we clear > the pits so as to get down to business. The teams begin practicing tire > changes, etc. and we make sure we have all of our supplies; gloves, flags, > etc. > > As with the support series, we go out onto the grid and join the grid > girls. > About one in three is beautiful. Ever heard the phrase, "Good from afar, > far from good?" They are all nice though. The team engineers love them > and > try to take pictures up their skirts. Guys are guys. > > At about 10 minutes before the race start, the grid girls leave the grid > and > we get busy. We once again make eye contact with the drivers as they get > into their cars. They have to know that we are there for them. As the > installation lap lights go out, we are all plastered up against the walls > with yellow flags ready. The process is the same as with the support > races. > Once the cars are all away we scramble like mad to get through the fence, > helping the teams with equipment as they clear it away. We then, upon a > cue > from the Chief of Pit, we place our position marker boards through the > fence. > You have seen them I'm sure, although they are matte black on the back so > as > to not draw the attention of the TV viewers. As each car rolls into their > box, the marker boards are withdrawn and we once again make eye contact > with > the drivers. This time, it is not so easy. They know we are there but > they > frequently don't make eye contact. They have about a liter each of > testosterone and adrenalin in their systems at this time and are like race > horses in the gate! Some times they will nod. Usually they just stare > straight forward as if in a trance. As the red lights come up, so does > the > decibel level; eight hundred horsepower times 22 cars equals 17,600hp just > waiting to leap! > > The ground shakes as you feel the combined exhaust symphony vibrate your > whole body. The especially build radio headphones block out the engine > screams but the low frequency bit is beyond words. It's like the first > air > show you ever attended where right in front of you the F15 stood on its > tail > and accelerated straight up. Words fail. When the lights go out, > hopefully > everybody gets away cleanly. If you're working near the front of the > grid, > the back markers are well over 100mph by the time they pass your position. > It is not a sensation one easily forgets. > > Again we wait on station at the fence opening in case of a restart. Once > the race is cleanly underway, we move back into the pits to be ready for > any > cars coming in for early repairs. When a car starts from the pits there > is > not a marshal with them but rather, Race Control and the marshals at the > pointy end of the grid oversee that start. Pit stops are another fun > moment > but they are pretty uneventful from a marshal's perspective. We just make > sure that the various engineers and photographers don't walk out in front > of > cars entering, within or exiting the pit lane. We also look out for one > another. > > Sunday afternoon: After the race, everyone is beat. > > We gather our stuff and wander back to the USAC building. There we > disrobe > and turn our uniforms in. We also return our radios and headsets. We > keep > our tabards, hats and all credentials. They are our mementos. The quest > changes to one of getting out of town, meeting flights and cooling off. > With a little luck, there is time for a shower before boarding our > flights. > I'm sure the fellow travelers appreciate that. > > Okay, that is a NORMAL race weekend. If anyone is interested, I can write > about the abnormal weekends; ones like when Ralf hit the wall at 200+mph > right in front of us or the weekend when every Michelin shod car bowed > out. > I was there for both of those joyous events. :-| > > Happy Tuesday, > > Rick > > PS: Today, I have the 2007 USAC gold card with 'PIT/GRID' on it, tucked > away > in my wallet! Yeeeehaaaa! > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
