The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 476 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: LED Headlight - Commentary Considering 1989 325xi Re: Considering 1989 325xi Re: 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph Re: 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph Re: <e36> Clusterfsck 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Mirror glass adhesive?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:39:39 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: LED Headlight - Commentary Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ben, I think from articles in C&D that the Audi R8 or one of the Lexi will be the first with the LED headlights. "IIRC someone (was not mentioned by the article/supplier) will have production LED headlights in 2008 CY timeframe. Audi have them as running lights on several models now, but that's not the same thing." -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:18:15 -0500 From: "John Barbian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Considering 1989 325xi Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After 2 years out of the country missing my E46, I will back in the US for about a year starting this summer. I am considering buying a 1989 325xi, only 101K miles, auto, new tires / rims. I know the seller and believe he has maintained the car well. That said, what issues does this model / vintage have that I should discuss with the seller before committing?. Also, the car has lived for a couple of years at 7,000 feet. I will be bringing it to much lower altitudes. Any issue here? Thanks so much for your group advice. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:28:38 -0700 From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Considering 1989 325xi Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 5/9/07, John Barbian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After 2 years out of the country missing my E46, I will back in the US for > about a year starting this summer. I am considering buying a 1989 325xi, > only 101K miles, auto, new tires / rims. In 1989 it was called a 325iX, not a 325xi. > That said, what issues does this model / > vintage have that I should discuss with the seller before committing?. See http://home.earthlink.net/~wardellhix/iX for iX-specific issues and forum. See http://bmwe30.net for articles, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/E30 for more mature expertise. > Also, the car has lived for a couple of years at 7,000 feet. I will be > bringing it to much lower altitudes. Any issue here? The car will be surprised to suddenly start making so much power, but it will be happy with you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:06:07 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Remember what I said a few weeks ago? 84 in a 65 on Sunday. Oh, and my license was expired as of my birthday in March So I got an "unlicensed operation" ticket also. "Know why I'm pulling you over?" "Yeah, speeding, I was going 74 in a 65" "Was that after you saw I was a statey?" "puzzled look" Didn't work... There were three vans in a pack. I was in the passing lane. I'm gonna try to plead I was going to pass a van and another van came up behind and was passing on the inside. 1st - unsafe at any speed -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Demkovitch Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph No, vibration disappears at higher speed. And there is none when I drive speed limit :( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:05:46 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "'Fuerst Chris'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bummer... I have noticed here in Delaware that Sunday is not a good day to speed. Cops should take Sundays off, but they don't. They should also be forced to drive marked cars, as they are now driving SUV's, Dodge Chargers, and who knows what else. I have had my M3 for 14 months but have managed to avoid tickets, with a heavy foot and without radar. Not sure my luck will hold out much longer. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fuerst Chris Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph Remember what I said a few weeks ago? 84 in a 65 on Sunday. Oh, and my license was expired as of my birthday in March So I got an "unlicensed operation" ticket also. "Know why I'm pulling you over?" "Yeah, speeding, I was going 74 in a 65" "Was that after you saw I was a statey?" "puzzled look" Didn't work... There were three vans in a pack. I was in the passing lane. I'm gonna try to plead I was going to pass a van and another van came up behind and was passing on the inside. 1st - unsafe at any speed -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Demkovitch Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] 97 540 6-spd vibration at 75mph No, vibration disappears at higher speed. And there is none when I drive speed limit :( Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:20:22 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Cledus Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <e36> Clusterfsck Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cold solder joints perhaps? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:01:35 -0400 From: alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 1996 318ti (E36) with an intermittent cooling problem. I bought the car used after a minor accident, which was repaired. As part of the repair, the radiator was replaced. Car ran fine for several months after. Then, this past winter, this problem surfaced where the car would overheat. After some inspection, I found that the coolant temperature sensor on the side of the radiator had actually broken off. Replaced that and then found that the cooling fan was not kicking on when the coolant became too warm. Checked the fan relay and it worked fine. Fan would kick on normally when the A/C was turned on. Finally took the car to a dealer last week (well, had it towed there) and they said it needed the following: 1. Camshaft position sensor 2. New cooling fan (supposedly it was broken so that it would not turn on in low speed mode). 3. A new water pump (which I could swear was replaced when the radiator was). Now they call me (I've been getting daily calls with yet something else wrong) and say that they think that the head gasket needs to be replaced as it might be letting exhaust into the cooling system. Or perhaps there is corrosion inside the engine that is preventing the coolant from moving through it. The long and short of the problem as I understand it is that the coolant isn't moving because of some unknown cause. I'm told that if the head gasket isn't the issue, then I would need a new engine and, frankly, the car isn't worth that. Apparently, when they tried to test the head bolts today they managed to strip one of them. What am I in for there? This is my first BMW and I've been watching this list since I bought it last summer, but haven't seen anything like this on here yet. Anyone have some ideas or advice before I keep working on this car? Thanks for any help! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:11:14 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], uuc Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stop the hemorrhaging. Go get the car from the dealer and have it towed to a reputable shop that isn't going to rip you blind like these parts changers. Did you authorize the head to be pulled? If not, then the stripped block is their responsibility. Also, that's a cast iron block and it's very unlikely to strip, unless a gorilla is working on the car. My money is that there is no issue with the block, but they have no idea what the problem is and so their fix is a new engine. You're about to spend more in repairs than the car is worth. www.bimrs.org for a local, reputable, shop. Brett Anderson KMS alan wrote: > I have a 1996 318ti (E36) with an intermittent cooling problem. I > bought the car used after a minor accident, which was repaired. As part > of the repair, the radiator was replaced. Car ran fine for several > months after. > Then, this past winter, this problem surfaced where the car would > overheat. After some inspection, I found that the coolant temperature > sensor on the side of the radiator had actually broken off. Replaced > that and then found that the cooling fan was not kicking on when the > coolant became too warm. Checked the fan relay and it worked fine. Fan > would kick on normally when the A/C was turned on. > > Finally took the car to a dealer last week (well, had it towed there) > and they said it needed the following: > 1. Camshaft position sensor > 2. New cooling fan (supposedly it was broken so that it would not turn > on in low speed mode). > 3. A new water pump (which I could swear was replaced when the radiator > was). > > Now they call me (I've been getting daily calls with yet something else > wrong) and say that they think that the head gasket needs to be replaced > as it might be letting exhaust into the cooling system. Or perhaps > there is corrosion inside the engine that is preventing the coolant from > moving through it. The long and short of the problem as I understand it > is that the coolant isn't moving because of some unknown cause. I'm > told that if the head gasket isn't the issue, then I would need a new > engine and, frankly, the car isn't worth that. > > Apparently, when they tried to test the head bolts today they managed to > strip one of them. What am I in for there? > > This is my first BMW and I've been watching this list since I bought it > last summer, but haven't seen anything like this on here yet. > > Anyone have some ideas or advice before I keep working on this car? > Thanks for any help! > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:38:33 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "uuc Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I concur. WTF is "test the headbolts"? 1st -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KMS- Brett Anderson Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; uuc Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] 1996 318ti cooling problem Stop the hemorrhaging. Go get the car from the dealer and have it towed to a reputable shop that isn't going to rip you blind like these parts changers. Did you authorize the head to be pulled? If not, then the stripped block is their responsibility. Also, that's a cast iron block and it's very unlikely to strip, unless a gorilla is working on the car. My money is that there is no issue with the block, but they have no idea what the problem is and so their fix is a new engine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:08:26 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fuerst Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uuc Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On aluminum engines, BMW recommends loosening and re-torquing all head bolts before removing the head. When the aluminum engines overheat, the block gets weakened. The procedure was designed to prevent going to the trouble of repairing an overheated cylinder head, only to have the bolts strip during re-assembly. I find it very hard to believe that this cast iron engine block has stripped head bolt holes. I think they are just trying to take the easy way out by replacing the engine. Basically, my money is on them lying to the customer. Brett Anderson KMS Fuerst Chris wrote: > I concur. WTF is "test the headbolts"? > > 1st ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:14:32 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "uuc Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My guess is they were re-torquing the head bolts and stripped the head. I'd imagine its a torx which means they used the wrong socket on it. Do what Brett says. Gary Derian > Stop the hemorrhaging. > > Go get the car from the dealer and have it towed to a reputable shop that > isn't going to rip you blind like these parts changers. Did you authorize > the head to be pulled? If not, then the stripped block is their > responsibility. Also, that's a cast iron block and it's very unlikely to > strip, unless a gorilla is working on the car. My money is that there is > no issue with the block, but they have no idea what the problem is and so > their fix is a new engine. > > You're about to spend more in repairs than the car is worth. > > www.bimrs.org for a local, reputable, shop. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > alan wrote: >> I have a 1996 318ti (E36) with an intermittent cooling problem. I bought >> the car used after a minor accident, which was repaired. As part of the >> repair, the radiator was replaced. Car ran fine for several months >> after. >> Then, this past winter, this problem surfaced where the car would >> overheat. After some inspection, I found that the coolant temperature >> sensor on the side of the radiator had actually broken off. Replaced >> that and then found that the cooling fan was not kicking on when the >> coolant became too warm. Checked the fan relay and it worked fine. Fan >> would kick on normally when the A/C was turned on. >> >> Finally took the car to a dealer last week (well, had it towed there) and >> they said it needed the following: >> 1. Camshaft position sensor >> 2. New cooling fan (supposedly it was broken so that it would not turn >> on in low speed mode). >> 3. A new water pump (which I could swear was replaced when the radiator >> was). >> >> Now they call me (I've been getting daily calls with yet something else >> wrong) and say that they think that the head gasket needs to be replaced >> as it might be letting exhaust into the cooling system. Or perhaps there >> is corrosion inside the engine that is preventing the coolant from moving >> through it. The long and short of the problem as I understand it is that >> the coolant isn't moving because of some unknown cause. I'm told that if >> the head gasket isn't the issue, then I would need a new engine and, >> frankly, the car isn't worth that. >> >> Apparently, when they tried to test the head bolts today they managed to >> strip one of them. What am I in for there? >> >> This is my first BMW and I've been watching this list since I bought it >> last summer, but haven't seen anything like this on here yet. >> >> Anyone have some ideas or advice before I keep working on this car? >> Thanks for any help! >> >> >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:47:20 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry for the troubles, Alan. When I first bought my M3 (my first BMW, also) the dealer couldn't get the horn to work (which means car couldn't pass state inspection), and I am thinking here I go, BMW nightmares from hell. I am sure you are thinking the same thing. What is the mileage on the vehicle? That will help some of the more technically astute folks on this list to give you suggestions. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] 1996 318ti cooling problem I have a 1996 318ti (E36) with an intermittent cooling problem. I bought the car used after a minor accident, which was repaired. As part of the repair, the radiator was replaced. Car ran fine for several months after. Then, this past winter, this problem surfaced where the car would overheat. After some inspection, I found that the coolant temperature sensor on the side of the radiator had actually broken off. Replaced that and then found that the cooling fan was not kicking on when the coolant became too warm. Checked the fan relay and it worked fine. Fan would kick on normally when the A/C was turned on. Finally took the car to a dealer last week (well, had it towed there) and they said it needed the following: 1. Camshaft position sensor 2. New cooling fan (supposedly it was broken so that it would not turn on in low speed mode). 3. A new water pump (which I could swear was replaced when the radiator was). Now they call me (I've been getting daily calls with yet something else wrong) and say that they think that the head gasket needs to be replaced as it might be letting exhaust into the cooling system. Or perhaps there is corrosion inside the engine that is preventing the coolant from moving through it. The long and short of the problem as I understand it is that the coolant isn't moving because of some unknown cause. I'm told that if the head gasket isn't the issue, then I would need a new engine and, frankly, the car isn't worth that. Apparently, when they tried to test the head bolts today they managed to strip one of them. What am I in for there? This is my first BMW and I've been watching this list since I bought it last summer, but haven't seen anything like this on here yet. Anyone have some ideas or advice before I keep working on this car? Thanks for any help! Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:53:08 -0400 From: alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: 1996 318ti cooling problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt -- Thanks for your input and the others that have replied so far. I meant to include that the car has about 105k on it now, but clearly forgot that in my initial post. Alan Matt Bader wrote: > Sorry for the troubles, Alan. When I first bought my M3 (my first BMW, > also) the dealer couldn't get the horn to work (which means car couldn't > pass state inspection), and I am thinking here I go, BMW nightmares from > hell. I am sure you are thinking the same thing. > > What is the mileage on the vehicle? That will help some of the more > technically astute folks on this list to give you suggestions. > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > Delaware > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] 1996 318ti cooling problem > > I have a 1996 318ti (E36) with an intermittent cooling problem. I > bought the car used after a minor accident, which was repaired. As part > of the repair, the radiator was replaced. Car ran fine for several > months after. > > Then, this past winter, this problem surfaced where the car would > overheat. After some inspection, I found that the coolant temperature > sensor on the side of the radiator had actually broken off. Replaced > that and then found that the cooling fan was not kicking on when the > coolant became too warm. Checked the fan relay and it worked fine. Fan > would kick on normally when the A/C was turned on. > > Finally took the car to a dealer last week (well, had it towed there) > and they said it needed the following: > 1. Camshaft position sensor > 2. New cooling fan (supposedly it was broken so that it would not turn > on in low speed mode). > 3. A new water pump (which I could swear was replaced when the radiator > was). > > Now they call me (I've been getting daily calls with yet something else > wrong) and say that they think that the head gasket needs to be replaced > as it might be letting exhaust into the cooling system. Or perhaps > there is corrosion inside the engine that is preventing the coolant from > moving through it. The long and short of the problem as I understand it > is that the coolant isn't moving because of some unknown cause. I'm > told that if the head gasket isn't the issue, then I would need a new > engine and, frankly, the car isn't worth that. > > Apparently, when they tried to test the head bolts today they managed to > strip one of them. What am I in for there? > > This is my first BMW and I've been watching this list since I bought it > last summer, but haven't seen anything like this on here yet. > > Anyone have some ideas or advice before I keep working on this car? > Thanks for any help! > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:30:03 -0700 From: Peter Loron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Mirror glass adhesive? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, the glass on my passenger side mirror (1998 M3) is coming off of the internal structure. Suggestions for proper glue to re-attach the glass? Yes, these are some aftermarket, non-OE mirrors. Sigh. One more thing to fix on my poor car. Thanks. -Pete ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
